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1. 03:34 AM - Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) (Bob 1)
2. 04:42 AM - Re: ADS-B (nick)
3. 04:50 AM - Re: ADS-B (linn Walters)
4. 05:26 AM - Re: ADS-B (Chuck Jensen)
5. 06:54 AM - Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) (Sherman Butler)
6. 06:57 AM - Re: ADS-B (Tim Olson)
7. 07:01 AM - Re: Pressure profile -- was Drain holes (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
8. 07:37 AM - Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) (Bob Collins)
9. 07:38 AM - Mechanical Tachometer repair (PGLong@aol.com)
10. 10:29 AM - Re: ADS-B (Ed Holyoke)
11. 10:42 AM - Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) (Frank Stringham)
12. 12:46 PM - groaner.....too (JOHN STARN)
13. 02:12 PM - Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) (bill shook)
14. 02:29 PM - Ray Allen Grip stick wiring (bertrv6@highstream.net)
15. 03:02 PM - Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) (Bob Collins)
16. 03:43 PM - Re: ADS-B (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
17. 05:27 PM - Re: ADS-B (Charlie England)
18. 06:38 PM - Re: Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) (Bob C.)
19. 07:06 PM - Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) (Darrell Reiley)
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| Subject: | Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) |
> So with that said .......like noses and other body parts ........everyone
> has an opinion. Some I like and others I think stink.
>
> Frank @ SGU and SLC
=================================
Everyone certainly is entitled to their own opinion, Frank, but not their
own facts.
OPINION:
>Dan has created a MASTERPIECE!!! Weathermeister.com is a FREE web-based
>tool that will absolutely change the way you currently get your weather
>infomation when flying locally or coast-to-coast in your RV.
FACT:
>But it's NOT FREE anymore???!!! With the 'free' function it will no longer
>remember your location or allow you to set a radius . .. Without the $5.00
>per month fee it doesn't even do route weather.
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Hi Ed,
Here is a link from a UK company, http://www.kineticavionics.co.uk/LAST.php
Who are making a GA ADSB unit, its still undergoing testing but may be of
interest to the list.
Regards
Nick
PS I am not affiliated in any way to Kinetic-Avionics, I did buy their
basestation unit, to pick up Aircraft with ADSB on board.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed Holyoke
Sent: 12 November 2006 07:17
Subject: RV-List: ADS-B
I attended a lecture at AOPA convention given by the FAA subgroup that
is implementing ADS-B. According to these folks, the administrator has
committed the FAA to making it work all over the country. It'll take
years to do, but someday we'll be able to get inflight weather and
traffic displayed for free. At some point, maybe ten years from now, the
airborne component that broadcasts position and vector info will be
required to fly near big airports as transponders are now. Transponders
may or may not go away sometime later. They haven't figured it out. TIS
may or may not continue to be supported. I'm not going to be buying a
mode S transponder anytime soon. The other airborne component that
receives and displays uploaded info from the ground stations will be
optional.
Right now, the equipment is real ass expensive. Now that the FAA has
committed to it, more manufacturers will start to make equipment for it
and all these software folks will support it on their displays. Maybe
they'll get smart and come up with some sort of open architecture so the
receivers will interface with different brands of display equipment. It
should become more affordable as time goes by. XM weather is great, and
at $50/mo, not worth it on the left side of the Rockies, at least not to
me. The price of admission for ADS-B won't be cheap, but at least there
won't be a monthly fee on top of it. I'm waiting to see how it shakes
out.
Pax,
Ed Holyoke
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Ed Holyoke wrote:
>
>I attended a lecture at AOPA convention given by the FAA subgroup that
>is implementing ADS-B. According to these folks, the administrator has
>committed the FAA to making it work all over the country. It'll take
>years to do, but someday we'll be able to get inflight weather and
>traffic displayed for free.
>
FWIW, I seem to remember that a Senator was trying to block the FAA from
providing anything other than collision avoidance info. Seems like one
of the weather info providers is in his state, and the senator agreed
that the Gov't was going to become a competitor and that might not be a
good thing for the industry in his state. I'm not hopeful that much
'free' will remain when politics wrtaps it's arms around anything.
Linn
do not archive
> At some point, maybe ten years from now, the
>airborne component that broadcasts position and vector info will be
>required to fly near big airports as transponders are now. Transponders
>may or may not go away sometime later. They haven't figured it out. TIS
>may or may not continue to be supported. I'm not going to be buying a
>mode S transponder anytime soon. The other airborne component that
>receives and displays uploaded info from the ground stations will be
>optional.
>
>Right now, the equipment is real ass expensive. Now that the FAA has
>committed to it, more manufacturers will start to make equipment for it
>and all these software folks will support it on their displays. Maybe
>they'll get smart and come up with some sort of open architecture so the
>receivers will interface with different brands of display equipment. It
>should become more affordable as time goes by. XM weather is great, and
>at $50/mo, not worth it on the left side of the Rockies, at least not to
>me. The price of admission for ADS-B won't be cheap, but at least there
>won't be a monthly fee on top of it. I'm waiting to see how it shakes
>out.
>
>Pax,
>
>Ed Holyoke
>
>
>
>
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Even if ADS-B is free, I'm betting money that Jeppesen will find a way
to charge for it.
Chuck Jensen
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed Holyoke
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 2:17 AM
Subject: RV-List: ADS-B
I attended a lecture at AOPA convention given by the FAA subgroup that
is implementing ADS-B. According to these folks, the administrator has
committed the FAA to making it work all over the country. It'll take
years to do, but someday we'll be able to get inflight weather and
traffic displayed for free. At some point, maybe ten years from now, the
airborne component that broadcasts position and vector info will be
required to fly near big airports as transponders are now. Transponders
may or may not go away sometime later. They haven't figured it out. TIS
may or may not continue to be supported. I'm not going to be buying a
mode S transponder anytime soon. The other airborne component that
receives and displays uploaded info from the ground stations will be
optional.
Right now, the equipment is real ass expensive. Now that the FAA has
committed to it, more manufacturers will start to make equipment for it
and all these software folks will support it on their displays. Maybe
they'll get smart and come up with some sort of open architecture so the
receivers will interface with different brands of display equipment. It
should become more affordable as time goes by. XM weather is great, and
at $50/mo, not worth it on the left side of the Rockies, at least not to
me. The price of admission for ADS-B won't be cheap, but at least there
won't be a monthly fee on top of it. I'm waiting to see how it shakes
out.
Pax,
Ed Holyoke
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| Subject: | Weathermeister (SPAM) |
No one said Dan was not a good guy.
He is only providing a very nice solution and format for Government generated
information using his computer knowledge. I just do not think it is worth one
more low cost of $X.95 per month. It is a marketing response.
Frank Stringham <fstringham@hotmail.com> wrote:
Terry
Yes.......Dan has done more for me and my plane than just about anyone on or
off the list. Man if I had to pay for his on list and off list advice to me
I would have to added a bunch more to the cost of the plane. Sam and
Walter's web sites have also added a great deal to my plane.
So with that said .......like noses and other body parts ........everyone
has an opinion. Some I like and others I think stink.
>him and his work, EXCEPT in one case from one "customer".
>>You guessed it . someone decided he wasn't quick enough and started
>bitching
>and badmouthing the guy right here on the RV list, for a FREE service.
>
>
>Dan Checkoway has provided more free and helpful services than anyone else
>I
>can think of, (with the possible exceptions of Randy Levold and Sam
>Buchanon) on or off the RV list. His website is probably the best reference
>anywhere in existence about building an RV; his articles in Kit Planes
>magazine are excellent, and now I see he is conducting workshops with
>SportAir on building RV's for those who want to get a taste of what is in
>store for them. He has provided for free this great site for checking and
>decoding weather information. Now he has enhanced and expanded it into a
Sherman Butler
RV-7a Wings
Idaho Falls
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I agree fully with this Linn. I see it as another big opportunity for
"user fees". Either fees comparable to WSI/XM to get weather from them,
or perhaps at some point having them subcontract their weather from
one of those 2, and charge a fee for it. Either way, I doubt anything
but traffic avoidance would remain free. For now I have the GTX-330
because the difference in price is just too little to pass on having
the next 10 years of TIS. ($1480 for the GTX-327 vs $3170 for the
GTX-330 at Stark) Not to mention this same transponder will be able to
be used for ADS-B most likely, but only as the radio transmitter portion
of it. You are able to take ADS-B hardware and couple it to the
GTX-330 in the future, and get ADS-B through it....the 330 would then
just become a dumb transmitter of the digital data at that point.
The current TIS coverage isn't actually too bad in the large terminal
areas, and it's already saved me a couple possible problems in my
first hundred hours. The phase out of TIS will be slow (10 years),
and the phase in of ADS-B will also be slow. And both of those things
can change based on FAA decisions and budgets, so for now TIS isn't
such a bad bet for current near-flying builders.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
linn Walters wrote:
>
> Ed Holyoke wrote:
>
>>
>> I attended a lecture at AOPA convention given by the FAA subgroup that
>> is implementing ADS-B. According to these folks, the administrator has
>> committed the FAA to making it work all over the country. It'll take
>> years to do, but someday we'll be able to get inflight weather and
>> traffic displayed for free.
>>
> FWIW, I seem to remember that a Senator was trying to block the FAA from
> providing anything other than collision avoidance info. Seems like one
> of the weather info providers is in his state, and the senator agreed
> that the Gov't was going to become a competitor and that might not be a
> good thing for the industry in his state. I'm not hopeful that much
> 'free' will remain when politics wrtaps it's arms around anything.
> Linn
> do not archive
>
>> At some point, maybe ten years from now, the
>> airborne component that broadcasts position and vector info will be
>> required to fly near big airports as transponders are now. Transponders
>> may or may not go away sometime later. They haven't figured it out. TIS
>> may or may not continue to be supported. I'm not going to be buying a
>> mode S transponder anytime soon. The other airborne component that
>> receives and displays uploaded info from the ground stations will be
>> optional.
>>
>> Right now, the equipment is real ass expensive. Now that the FAA has
>> committed to it, more manufacturers will start to make equipment for it
>> and all these software folks will support it on their displays. Maybe
>> they'll get smart and come up with some sort of open architecture so the
>> receivers will interface with different brands of display equipment. It
>> should become more affordable as time goes by. XM weather is great, and
>> at $50/mo, not worth it on the left side of the Rockies, at least not to
>> me. The price of admission for ADS-B won't be cheap, but at least there
>> won't be a monthly fee on top of it. I'm waiting to see how it shakes
>> out.
>>
>> Pax,
>>
>> Ed Holyoke
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Pressure profile -- was Drain holes |
In a message dated 11/11/2006 7:47:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, dreel@cox.net
writes:
The site picture of air pressure around a flying wing at
http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/index.php?q=log_entry&log_id=5255
is pretty puzzling. I would think a pressure greater than that atop the
wing would have to exist under the wing at positive angles of attack to
produce lift. The Bernoulli principle would explain the negative pressure
atop the wing. But the site picture shows a negative pressure beneath the
wing that appears about equal to that on top. ????
Dave
Dave,
I thought the picture was really amazing. It is the DIFFERENCE in pressure
that causes lift. Also, don't forget that Neuton is right too. The air that
leaves the wing has to have downwash, which it will since the air on top got
speeded up (more than the air on the bottom). At least that's how I look at it.
OK, lets hear from the real experts!
Dan Hopper
RV-7A
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| Subject: | Weathermeister (SPAM) |
I wonder how many people who are complaining that Dan moved his content to
premium status made a contribution to his effort back when there was just a
tiny link there asking people to donate?
All the time I hear -- appropriately so -- "I can't thank Dan enough" for
either the default instruction manual or his various applications.
But apparently they can...they just don't want to.
If you don't like the fact Dan isn't giving you something for nothing, have
the good sense to shut up about it. You just sound ridiculous with your
complaining.
Do not archive.
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| Subject: | Mechanical Tachometer repair |
My 2.25" mechanical tachometer with hour meter gave up the ghost. The
tachometer still works fine but the hour meter portion quit. Is there anyone that
repairs these items? I would install a Hobbs type hour meter, but I kind of
like the reduced hours I put on when putting around at reduced power levels.
Pat Long
PGLong@aol.com
N120PL
RV4
Bay City, Michigan
3CM
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The gvmt is supplying the weather data to XM and anybody else who wants
it in the first place. This data and the means of acquisition have
already been paid for by taxpayers. It is available to these same
taxpayers (pilots) for free from Duat(s), just not in flight. It is
available to current users of ADS-B on the east coast and in Alaska.
There is nothing to keep people from adding value to the data in terms
of delivery and display options and reselling it, but what your senator
is saying is that we should stifle dissemination of free data to prop up
private enterprise. One senator does not a consensus make. Write letters
to his office to try and convince him and/or vote him out.
The FAA has a mandate to promote safety. How would this mandate be met
by denying timely weather data to pilots who don't subscribe to a pay
per view service when weather related accidents are still the leading
cause of fatalities? There will be a notice of proposed rulemaking and
comment period. Don't hold back when that occurs.
Pax,
Ed Holyoke
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Walters
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 4:51 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: ADS-B
Ed Holyoke wrote:
>
>I attended a lecture at AOPA convention given by the FAA subgroup that
>is implementing ADS-B. According to these folks, the administrator has
>committed the FAA to making it work all over the country. It'll take
>years to do, but someday we'll be able to get inflight weather and
>traffic displayed for free.
>
FWIW, I seem to remember that a Senator was trying to block the FAA from
providing anything other than collision avoidance info. Seems like one
of the weather info providers is in his state, and the senator agreed
that the Gov't was going to become a competitor and that might not be a
good thing for the industry in his state. I'm not hopeful that much
'free' will remain when politics wrtaps it's arms around anything.
Linn
do not archive
> At some point, maybe ten years from now, the
>airborne component that broadcasts position and vector info will be
>required to fly near big airports as transponders are now. Transponders
>may or may not go away sometime later. They haven't figured it out. TIS
>may or may not continue to be supported. I'm not going to be buying a
>mode S transponder anytime soon. The other airborne component that
>receives and displays uploaded info from the ground stations will be
>optional.
>
>Right now, the equipment is real ass expensive. Now that the FAA has
>committed to it, more manufacturers will start to make equipment for it
>and all these software folks will support it on their displays. Maybe
>they'll get smart and come up with some sort of open architecture so
the
>receivers will interface with different brands of display equipment. It
>should become more affordable as time goes by. XM weather is great, and
>at $50/mo, not worth it on the left side of the Rockies, at least not
to
>me. The price of admission for ADS-B won't be cheap, but at least there
>won't be a monthly fee on top of it. I'm waiting to see how it shakes
>out.
>
>Pax,
>
>Ed Holyoke
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Weathermeister (SPAM) |
Bob
You are right.....but.......apples to oranges......price is one
FACT.....some ones cost vs bennefit (to them a fact) is another.
Out for ever on this one
Frank @ SGU and SLC
>From: "Bob 1" <rv3a.1@comcast.net>
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Weathermeister (SPAM)
>Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 05:33:16 -0600
>
>
>
>>So with that said .......like noses and other body parts ........everyone
>>has an opinion. Some I like and others I think stink.
>>
>>Frank @ SGU and SLC
>=================================
>
>Everyone certainly is entitled to their own opinion, Frank, but not their
>own facts.
>
>OPINION:
>>Dan has created a MASTERPIECE!!! Weathermeister.com is a FREE web-based
>>tool that will absolutely change the way you currently get your weather
>>infomation when flying locally or coast-to-coast in your RV.
>
>FACT:
>>But it's NOT FREE anymore???!!! With the 'free' function it will no
>>longer remember your location or allow you to set a radius . .. Without
>>the $5.00 per month fee it doesn't even do route weather.
>
>
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I have a problem with Cinco de Mayo too. Can never remember when it is.
Do they have a 4th of July in England ?. No fireworks but it's between the
3rd and 5th of July every year. Do Not Archive. KABONG 8*)
The ship hit an iceberg and sank, and the cargo was forever lost.
>
> The people of Mexico, who were crazy about mayonnaise,
The National Day of Mourning is known, of course, as
> Sinko de Mayo.
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| Subject: | Weathermeister (SPAM) |
I really don't think the original complaint would have been made if the original
post
wasn't written in a very sales oriented fashion. We all see and hear commercials
every
day where we are bombarded with the website or the company name every other word...which
is how the original was worded. Whether or not it was a sales pitch is in the
eyes of
the beholder but it certainly came across that way. It was not worded like a guy
recommending a website he uses a lot, it looked and read very much like an advertisement
using the RV-List as a way of spamming people.
That is not to say it isn't a very good website offered by a very nice guy...it
is only
to say that even good services should not be allowed to use this list as
advertisement....elsewise we end up with tons of sales spam to sort through and
the list
very quickly becomes unreadable. If the original post had read something like
"hey have
you guys seen this weathermeister.com? I think it's the bee's knees." I think
it would
have sailed through unmolested. It did not read that way however...it smelled,
tasted,
and had the texture of a sales pitch...which is not read kindly in a place like
this.
Just my .02
Bill
-4 wings
Do not archive
http://new.mail.yahoo.com
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| Subject: | Ray Allen Grip stick wiring |
Hi:
What is the best way to wire the Grip sitck 205 from Ray allen, when you
have the one 201, that is the one with only the PTT button.
Has any one upgraded, having the plain one? how did you wire, the new
one..using the wires that are alreay there?
Would like to see it..
Thanks
Bert
rv6a
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| Subject: | Weathermeister (SPAM) |
//which is not read kindly in a place like this.
Not much is anymore.
Do not archive
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In a message dated 11/12/2006 6:52:11 AM Central Standard Time,
pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net writes:
the senator agreed
that the Gov't was going to become a competitor and that might not be a
good thing for the industry in his state.
>>>
Wasn't this the senator from PA by the name of Santorum? Seems he will soon
be out of his "job" at the expense of taxpayers and will likely see a major
pay increase via the lobby industry- sadly, that's just the way it goes these
daze. No telling how much this will cost us now...
Apologies for the editorial, but is seems there are no food sources safe from
"politicians" anymore...
Mark - do not archive
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The problem is a bit bigger than just denying free weather to ADS-B. The
neo-cons within the current administration have been attempting to deny
*all* free access to government weather & to ultimately turn over (read
'give') gvmt weather satellites to private ownership.
Hopefully, with the upcoming changing of the guard in Congress, that
won't happen.
Charlie
(BTW, I do find it interesting how we pilots are almost universally
opposed to tax supported 'giveaways' until we start talking about
aviation. ;-) )
Ed Holyoke wrote:
>
>The gvmt is supplying the weather data to XM and anybody else who wants
>it in the first place. This data and the means of acquisition have
>already been paid for by taxpayers. It is available to these same
>taxpayers (pilots) for free from Duat(s), just not in flight. It is
>available to current users of ADS-B on the east coast and in Alaska.
>There is nothing to keep people from adding value to the data in terms
>of delivery and display options and reselling it, but what your senator
>is saying is that we should stifle dissemination of free data to prop up
>private enterprise. One senator does not a consensus make. Write letters
>to his office to try and convince him and/or vote him out.
>
>The FAA has a mandate to promote safety. How would this mandate be met
>by denying timely weather data to pilots who don't subscribe to a pay
>per view service when weather related accidents are still the leading
>cause of fatalities? There will be a notice of proposed rulemaking and
>comment period. Don't hold back when that occurs.
>
>Pax,
>
>Ed Holyoke
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Walters
>Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 4:51 AM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: ADS-B
>
>
>Ed Holyoke wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>>I attended a lecture at AOPA convention given by the FAA subgroup that
>>is implementing ADS-B. According to these folks, the administrator has
>>committed the FAA to making it work all over the country. It'll take
>>years to do, but someday we'll be able to get inflight weather and
>>traffic displayed for free.
>>
>>
>>
>FWIW, I seem to remember that a Senator was trying to block the FAA from
>
>providing anything other than collision avoidance info. Seems like one
>of the weather info providers is in his state, and the senator agreed
>that the Gov't was going to become a competitor and that might not be a
>good thing for the industry in his state. I'm not hopeful that much
>'free' will remain when politics wrtaps it's arms around anything.
>Linn
>do not archive
>
>
>
>>At some point, maybe ten years from now, the
>>airborne component that broadcasts position and vector info will be
>>required to fly near big airports as transponders are now. Transponders
>>may or may not go away sometime later. They haven't figured it out. TIS
>>may or may not continue to be supported. I'm not going to be buying a
>>mode S transponder anytime soon. The other airborne component that
>>receives and displays uploaded info from the ground stations will be
>>optional.
>>
>>Right now, the equipment is real ass expensive. Now that the FAA has
>>committed to it, more manufacturers will start to make equipment for it
>>and all these software folks will support it on their displays. Maybe
>>they'll get smart and come up with some sort of open architecture so
>>
>>
>the
>
>
>>receivers will interface with different brands of display equipment. It
>>should become more affordable as time goes by. XM weather is great, and
>>at $50/mo, not worth it on the left side of the Rockies, at least not
>>
>>
>to
>
>
>>me. The price of admission for ADS-B won't be cheap, but at least there
>>won't be a monthly fee on top of it. I'm waiting to see how it shakes
>>out.
>>
>>Pax,
>>
>>Ed Holyoke
>>
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Nobody said it wasn't worth it . . . It probably is worth it if you fly a
number of trips.
But the original email in this chain said it was FREE . . . it's NOT and
that's OK . . . it's just not accurate to say it's FREE when it's not!
By the way, I did get a 1 year free trial and it's a very nice product . .
.but when the years up . . . no longer free!
Here is my problem small as it is! I've used Dan's wx for over a year now,
just occasionally, and found if very handy (just the local wx and terminal
forecasts for a given radius) . . . most of my flying is local . . . (the
radius and forecast went away recently it would be nice if that remained
free, but so far it's not!)
I'm happy the Dan was able to sell his services and make a buck . . . that's
his right and more power to him . . . but it's no longer FREE . . . simple
as that.
Regards,
Bob in SE Iowa
On 11/10/06, Bob Collins <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> It cracks me up how folks who have no problem spending tens of thousands
> of dollars avionics and a gazillion more on stuff in a homebuilt plane that
> you can't find in a 747, and then go all glassy-eyed at the prospect of
> spending $49.95 a year so they're a more informed -- and presumably safer
> -- pilot.
>
> Obviously folks have a right not to spend money they don't wish to spend,
> but there's a bit of an entitlement mentality at work when people who are
> doing all the work and spending money on servers etc. to provide something
> free, all of a sudden get ripped for being compensated for their effort.
>
> If you don't want to pay, don't pay. But please have the good sense not to
> belittle even the "free" stuff as "worthless."
>
> At the very LEAST, you got what you paid for. Stop complaining about it.
>
> Do not archive
>
> --------
> Bob Collins
> St. Paul, Minn.
> RV Builder's Hotline (free!)
> http://home.comcast.net/~rvnewsletter/
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=73582#73582
>
>
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Just MHO
Dan has done a lot for the RV community...! I hope his
weather project does him well. He's a smart man! He's
helped many.
Darrell Reiley
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