---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 11/15/06: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 04:54 AM - LOC (Matt Dralle) 1. 07:07 AM - Brakes (Charles Heathco) 2. 08:03 AM - Re: Skytec 149-12LS starter (Dan Ross) 3. 01:56 PM - Re:Brakes (Martin & Chris) 4. 02:07 PM - Position of the battery in the RV8 () 5. 02:46 PM - Re: RV-ListLycoming Data Plate (glen matejcek) 6. 02:49 PM - Re: Position of the battery in the RV8 (Larry Bowen) 7. 03:40 PM - Re: Position of the battery in the RV8 (Bill VonDane) 8. 04:34 PM - Clearance between oil cooler and engine mount? (Kevin Horton) 9. 04:47 PM - Re: Position of the battery in the RV8 (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)) 10. 05:11 PM - Re: Clearance between oil cooler and engine mount? (John Huft) 11. 05:14 PM - Re: Clearance between oil cooler and engine mount? (Terry Watson) 12. 05:49 PM - Re: Clearance between oil cooler and engine mount? (bertrv6@highstream.net) 13. 05:52 PM - Grip Stick wiring (bertrv6@highstream.net) 14. 06:06 PM - Re: Clearance between oil cooler and engine mount? (Denis Walsh) 15. 07:28 PM - Re: Position of the battery in the RV8 (Tracy Crook) 16. 09:06 PM - hanger paine field (Rodney Tong) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 04:54:07 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV-List: LOC Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)? 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Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:07:18 AM PST US From: "Charles Heathco" Subject: RV-List: Brakes Having studied the brake fix with the springs and bolts, I found that the brakes on my 6a has a longer push rod which has springs on them. I have a pulling left problem intermittenly so when taxiing back the other day I pulled off my belt and reached down and made sure the brakes were fully retracted, but still has slicht pull to left. I assume the caliper is not fully retracting and wondered if anyone had experienced this and if so how to fix. Charlie Heathco ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:03:33 AM PST US From: "Dan Ross" Subject: RV-List: Re: Skytec 149-12LS starter Took Kelly's advice and contacted Skytec to inquire on availability of rebuilt starter at a discount over a new unit. I was informed that Skytec no longer sells rebuilt units due to a lack of sufficient cores. I guess it was a good deal while it lasted. Dan ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:56:53 PM PST US From: "Martin & Chris" Subject: RV-List: Re:Brakes Charles, I guess the obvious thing to check is - are the brake calipers sliding freely on the two guide pins ? If not, make sure there is no crud on the pins, and give 'em a squirt of silicon spray, making sure none gets on the brake disc or pads. Also, make sure that the brake line is not restricting full movement of the caliper on the guides. If it is not either of these, then maybe the brake piston is sticking in the caliper and not retracting. In this case it could again be crud, or corrosion or possibly the piston is cocked in the bore. Easy enough to check. Cheers Martin in Oz ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:07:41 PM PST US From: Subject: RV-List: Position of the battery in the RV8 I'm ready to order the Van's wire harness kit for a RV-8. I need to know if the battery will be aft or forward mounted. What is the experience of other builders with a O-360-A1A engine,Hartzell propeller and 200 lbs. pilot? Thanks Jose del Peso (#80981) Madrid (Spain) ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:46:58 PM PST US From: "glen matejcek" Subject: RV-List: RE: RV-ListLycoming Data Plate Time: 05:06:11 PM PST US From: Mike Robertson Subject: RE: RV-List: Lycoming Data Plate >Leave it on and carry on. > >Mike Robertson >Das Fed Boy, I wish you were in our area. Das local feds have said that the engines on our homebuilts no longer conform to the TC and as such the plate has to come off. Fortunately, they come off and go on easily. Same bunch that were insisting on STC'd belts recently. glen matejcek aerobubba@earthlink.net ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:49:30 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RE: RV-List: Position of the battery in the RV8 I have the same config with battery in front. It's nose heavy solo, but I don't think I'd do it any different . - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com _____ From: jdelpeso@bellsouth.net [mailto:jdelpeso@bellsouth.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:07 PM Subject: RV-List: Position of the battery in the RV8 I'm ready to order the Van's wire harness kit for a RV-8. I need to know if the battery will be aft or forward mounted. What is the experience of other builders with a O-360-A1A engine,Hartzell propeller and 200 lbs. pilot? Thanks Jose del Peso (#80981) Madrid (Spain) ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:40:19 PM PST US From: "Bill VonDane" Subject: Re: RV-List: Position of the battery in the RV8 I have an O320 in my -8A, but I do have the nose wheel so maybe it's close in weight... I also have an MT 3 blade prop that weights 38# with the spinner and screws... I mounted my odyssey 625 in the bottom part of the forward baggage compartment just behind the firewall... I weight about 215 and it's a bit heavy in the flair solo, but nothing I would ever complain about... It also allows me to load the crap out of it and never get out of CG... -Bill VonDane RV-8A - Colorado Springs www.rv8a.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Bowen Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 3:49 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Position of the battery in the RV8 I have the same config with battery in front. It's nose heavy solo, but I don't think I'd do it any different . - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: jdelpeso@bellsouth.net [mailto:jdelpeso@bellsouth.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:07 PM To: rv-list@matronics.com Subject: RV-List: Position of the battery in the RV8 I'm ready to order the Van's wire harness kit for a RV-8. I need to know if the battery will be aft or forward mounted. What is the experience of other builders with a O-360-A1A engine,Hartzell propeller and 200 lbs. pilot? Thanks Jose del Peso (#80981) Madrid (Spain) href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics. com/Navigator?RV-List ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:34:21 PM PST US From: Kevin Horton Subject: RV-List: Clearance between oil cooler and engine mount? The oil cooler on my IO-360-A1B6 is hung a bit aft of the baffles on the left side, and I don't have a lot of clearance between the oil cooler flange and the engine mount. I have trimmed the flange to get about 3/16" clearance between the oil cooler and engine mount, but wonder if that is enough. I'd appreciate any advice from those with flying aircraft. Thanks, Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit) Ottawa, Canada http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:47:18 PM PST US From: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky) Subject: Re: RV-List: Position of the battery in the RV8 That's the same set up as a guy who hangars next to me. He can't 3 point land without passenger or lots of baggage in the back. I'd say put the battery in the back. It will fly nicer solo without extra effort. I have an angle valve engine, hartzell prop, battery in the back and I can 3 point right without a passenger/luggage either. I like the way it trims out better with a passenger in the back so I would assume you'd overall like the way the plane solos with the battery back there too. Depends I guess on how much you are going to fly solo vs how often you are going to take up a VERY heavy passenger. -------------- Original message -------------- From: I'm ready to order the Van's wire harness kit for a RV-8. I need to know if the battery will be aft or forward mounted. What is the experience of other builders with a O-360-A1A engine,Hartzell propeller and 200 lbs. pilot? Thanks Jose del Peso (#80981) Madrid (Spain)
That's the same set up as a guy who hangars next to me.  He can't 3 point land without passenger or lots of baggage in the back.  I'd say put the battery in the back.  It will fly nicer solo without extra effort.  I have an angle valve engine, hartzell prop, battery in the back and I can 3 point right without a passenger/luggage either.  I like the way it trims out better with a passenger in the back so I would assume you'd overall like the way the plane solos with the battery back there too.  Depends I guess on how much you are going to fly solo vs how often you are going to take up a VERY heavy passenger.
 
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I'm ready to order the Van's wire harness kit for a RV-8. I need to know if the battery will be aft or forward mounted.

What is the experience of other builders with a O-360-A1A engine,Hartzell propeller and 200 lbs. pilot? 

Thanks

Jose del Peso (#80981)

Madrid (Spain)

 







________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:11:49 PM PST US From: John Huft Subject: Re: RV-List: Clearance between oil cooler and engine mount? Kevin, sounds just like mine...no sign that the flange has ever touched the engine mount. John Huft 375 hours Kevin Horton wrote: > > The oil cooler on my IO-360-A1B6 is hung a bit aft of the baffles on > the left side, and I don't have a lot of clearance between the oil > cooler flange and the engine mount. I have trimmed the flange to get > about 3/16" clearance between the oil cooler and engine mount, but > wonder if that is enough. I'd appreciate any advice from those with > flying aircraft. > > Thanks, > > Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit) > Ottawa, Canada > http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8 > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:14:41 PM PST US From: "Terry Watson" Subject: RE: RV-List: Clearance between oil cooler and engine mount? Kevin, This isn't an answer to your question, but more of a way of thinking about it.: The farther you are away from the motor mount, the more clearance you need. Since you are pretty close to the engine mount at that location, it would seem that 3/16" might be enough. Of course this is probably all very obvious to you but at one time in seemed like a brilliant insight to me. Terry -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Horton Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 4:33 PM Subject: RV-List: Clearance between oil cooler and engine mount? The oil cooler on my IO-360-A1B6 is hung a bit aft of the baffles on the left side, and I don't have a lot of clearance between the oil cooler flange and the engine mount. I have trimmed the flange to get about 3/16" clearance between the oil cooler and engine mount, but wonder if that is enough. I'd appreciate any advice from those with flying aircraft. Thanks, Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit) Ottawa, Canada http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:49:06 PM PST US From: bertrv6@highstream.net Subject: Re: RV-List: Clearance between oil cooler and engine mount? Quoting John Huft : > > Kevin, sounds just like mine...no sign that the flange has ever touched > the engine mount. > > John Huft > 375 hours > > Kevin Horton wrote: > > > > The oil cooler on my IO-360-A1B6 is hung a bit aft of the baffles on > > the left side, and I don't have a lot of clearance between the oil > > cooler flange and the engine mount. I have trimmed the flange to get > > about 3/16" clearance between the oil cooler and engine mount, but > > wonder if that is enough. I'd appreciate any advice from those with > > flying aircraft. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit) > > Ottawa, Canada > > http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8 > > > >Kevin: I put mine on my RV6A, on the right side,(looking from the cockpit) of the fire wall, about the middle of the two legs of Eng. mount. It is fine, the only thing is the 3" tube for air, is too close to the , Oil dip sitck. I should have make the hole for that a little more to the "left".. Bert rv6a Do not archive > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:52:11 PM PST US From: bertrv6@highstream.net Subject: RV-List: Grip Stick wiring HI; I have the R.Allen stick, with only the PTT button. Wants to upgrade to the next one, with four buttons. What is best way to wire this, using the wires I now have? Thanks Bert rv6a Do not archive ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:06:30 PM PST US From: Denis Walsh Subject: Re: RV-List: Clearance between oil cooler and engine mount? Mine is on the rear baffle and I had to grind out a semi hole in the inboard flange to get about the same clearance as you have. It has not yet touched the engine mount, at least not in the first 9.5 years (1870 hours). It is; however an O-360A1A in an Rv-6. The worst shake and furthest deviation from rest position will probably be at the first start up. If you don't get a scrape then, you are most likely ok. Build fast. Fly Fast. But never get in a hurry. Denis Walsh On Nov 15, 2006, at 07:32 6317300011, Kevin Horton wrote: > > The oil cooler on my IO-360-A1B6 is hung a bit aft of the baffles > on the left side, and I don't have a lot of clearance between the > oil cooler flange and the engine mount. I have trimmed the flange > to get about 3/16" clearance between the oil cooler and engine > mount, but wonder if that is enough. I'd appreciate any advice > from those with flying aircraft. > > Thanks, > > Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit) > Ottawa, Canada > http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8 > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:28:30 PM PST US From: "Tracy Crook" Subject: Re: RV-List: Position of the battery in the RV8 Larry (and you other IO - 360 / Hartzell RV-8 guys), what was your empty weight? I'm wondering how close I came to meeting my weight target on my Mazda 20B three rotor powered RV-8. The goal was to be no heavier than the Lyc / Hartzell setup. FWIW, I'm putting the battery just aft of rear baggage area. I'm solo most of the time and speed / fuel economy (I fly a fixed GPH setting) is measurably better in my -4 when loaded closer to aft CG. Tracy Crook (getting ready to weigh RV-8) ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Bowen To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:49 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Position of the battery in the RV8 I have the same config with battery in front. It's nose heavy solo, but I don't think I'd do it any different . - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: jdelpeso@bellsouth.net [mailto:jdelpeso@bellsouth.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:07 PM To: rv-list@matronics.com Subject: RV-List: Position of the battery in the RV8 I'm ready to order the Van's wire harness kit for a RV-8. I need to know if the battery will be aft or forward mounted. What is the experience of other builders with a O-360-A1A engine,Hartzell propeller and 200 lbs. pilot? 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