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0. 12:41 AM - Who is "Matt Dralle" & What Are "The Lists"? [Please Read] (Matt Dralle)
1. 04:14 AM - Re: Prop gov. question (Dana Overall)
2. 06:28 AM - Re: Prop gov. question (Paul Rice)
3. 07:10 AM - Re: Prop gov. question (Tom & Cathy Ervin)
4. 08:36 AM - Prop Gov Arm (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
5. 09:01 AM - Re: Prop gov. question (LessDragProd@aol.com)
6. 04:25 PM - Baffle rubber height (James H Nelson)
7. 04:36 PM - Short (Low Profile) Avionics (Lapsley R & Sandra E Caldwell)
8. 04:49 PM - Re: Prop gov. question (Dana Overall)
9. 05:28 PM - Re:Baffle rubber height (Dale Ensing)
10. 06:12 PM - Re: Short (Low Profile) Avionics (Frank Stringham)
11. 06:34 PM - Breakfast Suggestion for FTG RVers (Ron Lee)
12. 10:11 PM - Labelling the trim wheel position ... (Gerry Filby)
13. 10:37 PM - Re: Labelling the trim wheel position ... (Dan Checkoway)
14. 10:47 PM - Re: Labelling the trim wheel position ... (Jerry Springer)
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| Subject: | Who is "Matt Dralle" & What Are "The Lists"? [Please Read] |
Dear Listers,
Who is Matt Dralle and what exactly are these Lists? Well, I've been working in
the information technology industry for over 20 years primarily in computer
networking design and implementation. I have also done extensive work in web
development and CGI design during this period.
I started the Matronics Email Lists back in 1990 with about 30 fellow RV builders
from around the world. Since that time, I have added 63 other kinds of aircraft
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as the Forums, Wiki, Archives and Search Engine just to name a few.
For flexibility and reliability, I have chosen to run all of my own servers here
locally. Other List-related systems include a 1 Gigabit, fully switched network
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| Subject: | Re: Prop gov. question |
So just move the arm only?
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackwing1.jpg
http://rvflying.tripod.com
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>From: "Paul Rice" <rice737@msn.com>
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Prop gov. question
>Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 23:40:42 -0500
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>
>Hey Dana,
>If it is the MT gov, just cut the safety wire, loosen the screws and set
>the
>arm at any angle you would like, retighten and safety wire.
>
>Paul Rice
>RV8-hope to fly in the late spring.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:43 AM
>Subject: RV-List: Prop gov. question
>
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> >
> > Doing my final firewall forward wrapup and have this question. I need
>to
> > reorient the prop gov arm for an RV install. It looks I only need to go
> > one
> > hole clockwise. Right to the point. How do I do it? Any gremlins?
> >
> >
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> > http://rvflying.tripod.com/gov.jpg
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> > Dana Overall
> > Richmond, KY i39
> > RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
> > O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
> > http://rvflying.tripod.com/id30.html
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| Subject: | Re: Prop gov. question |
Hey Dana,
After you loosen the screws, the plate the arm shaft goes thru will move
where ever you want it. If you take the plate off, you will see it is a
very, very simply devise.
Paul Rice
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:13 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Prop gov. question
>
> So just move the arm only?
>
> Dana Overall
> Richmond, KY i39
> RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
> O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
> http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackwing1.jpg
> http://rvflying.tripod.com
> do not archive
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> >From: "Paul Rice" <rice737@msn.com>
> >To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Re: RV-List: Prop gov. question
> >Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 23:40:42 -0500
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Hey Dana,
> >If it is the MT gov, just cut the safety wire, loosen the screws and set
> >the
> >arm at any angle you would like, retighten and safety wire.
> >
> >Paul Rice
> >RV8-hope to fly in the late spring.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
> >To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> >Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:43 AM
> >Subject: RV-List: Prop gov. question
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Doing my final firewall forward wrapup and have this question. I need
> >to
> > > reorient the prop gov arm for an RV install. It looks I only need to
> > > go
> > > one
> > > hole clockwise. Right to the point. How do I do it? Any gremlins?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://rvflying.tripod.com/gov.jpg
> > >
> > > Dana Overall
> > > Richmond, KY i39
> > > RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
> > > O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
> > > http://rvflying.tripod.com/id30.html
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| Subject: | Re: Prop gov. question |
Dana, My prop gov. from Van's came with instructions to move the plate
dependent on application which I did. Works great after 43 Hours!
Tom in Ohio
> Hey Dana,
> If it is the MT gov, just cut the safety wire, loosen the screws and set
> the
> arm at any angle you would like, retighten and safety wire.
>
> Paul Rice
> RV8-hope to fly in the late spring.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:43 AM
> Subject: RV-List: Prop gov. question
>
>
>>
>> Doing my final firewall forward wrapup and have this question. I need to
>> reorient the prop gov arm for an RV install. It looks I only need to go
>> one
>> hole clockwise. Right to the point. How do I do it? Any gremlins?
>>
>>
>>
>> http://rvflying.tripod.com/gov.jpg
>>
>> Dana Overall
>> Richmond, KY i39
>> RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
>> O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
>> http://rvflying.tripod.com/id30.html
>> do not archive
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Dana,
I saw that you got your answer multiple times on the list. The
mechanism isn't as I expected it so I thought I'd expand a bit - the
screws on the outside with safety wire simply hold down the outer ring
which serves as a clamp. The arm and center part of the mechanism
rotate under the holddown ring.
Cut the safety wire, loosen the screws just a little and rotate the arm
as necessary.
Bob #40105
From: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:43 AM
Subject: RV-List: Prop gov. question
>
> Doing my final firewall forward wrapup and have this question. I need
to
> reorient the prop gov arm for an RV install. It looks I only need to
go
> one
> hole clockwise. Right to the point. How do I do it? Any gremlins?
>
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| Subject: | Re: Prop gov. question |
Hi Dana,
After looking at the picture you provided at
_http://rvflying.tripod.com/gov.jpg_ (http://rvflying.tripod.com/gov.jpg) , it does NOT appear to be an MT
governor.
I do not recognize the governor from the actuator arm and stop assembly in
your picture.
FWIW, my guess would be to cut the safety wire and remove four screws so you
can reposition the arm/stop assembly 60 degrees clockwise. Then reinstall
the four screws and safety wire them.
Regards,
Jim Ayers
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In a message dated 11/27/2006 5:46:22 AM Pacific Standard Time,
bo124rs@hotmail.com writes:
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
Doing my final firewall forward wrapup and have this question. I need to
reorient the prop gov arm for an RV install. It looks I only need to go one
hole clockwise. Right to the point. How do I do it? Any gremlins?
http://rvflying.tripod.com/gov.jpg
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
http://rvflying.tripod.com/id30.html
do not archive
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| Subject: | Baffle rubber height |
I have cut my metal baffles to the proper height but I can not find where
the dimension is given for the rubber flex portion. How much should I
leave above the metal portion. How much extra should be present after the
rubber touches the cowling. I've seen some pix of some that had lots of
material such that the rubber was sagging even when the cowl was off.
Just a bit confused and need some help---HELP!
Jim Nelson
RV9-A
(trying to finish the FWF)
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| Subject: | Short (Low Profile) Avionics |
I just starting the instrumrent panel for and RV-7. I have laid oit
cutouts for D100 and EMS120. Little space remains for radio stacks.
What are the shortest audio panels, txpdrs, and Nav/Coms?
Roger
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| Subject: | Re: Prop gov. question |
OK gang, just like the MT gov., all I had to do was remove all six screws
and rotate the holddown ring and shaft. I was worried something would come
springing out but it was no big deal. I hate opening up something I have no
idea about how it works inside.
Point of story, don't worry about rotating the aft ring..........it is a
piece of cake.
Thanks
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackwing1.jpg
http://rvflying.tripod.com
do not archive
>From: LessDragProd@aol.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Prop gov. question
>Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:00:20 EST
>
>
>Hi Dana,
>
>After looking at the picture you provided at
>_http://rvflying.tripod.com/gov.jpg_ (http://rvflying.tripod.com/gov.jpg) ,
> it does NOT appear to be an MT
>governor.
>
>I do not recognize the governor from the actuator arm and stop assembly in
>your picture.
>
>
>FWIW, my guess would be to cut the safety wire and remove four screws so
>you
>can reposition the arm/stop assembly 60 degrees clockwise. Then reinstall
>the four screws and safety wire them.
>
>Regards,
>Jim Ayers
>Do Not Archive
>
>In a message dated 11/27/2006 5:46:22 AM Pacific Standard Time,
>bo124rs@hotmail.com writes:
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
>
>Doing my final firewall forward wrapup and have this question. I need to
>reorient the prop gov arm for an RV install. It looks I only need to go
>one
>hole clockwise. Right to the point. How do I do it? Any gremlins?
>
>
>http://rvflying.tripod.com/gov.jpg
>
>Dana Overall
>Richmond, KY i39
>RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
>O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
>http://rvflying.tripod.com/id30.html
>do not archive
>
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| Subject: | Re: Baffle rubber height |
Jim,
If I remember correctly I started out with four inches on the baffle seals
on my O-360/6A. The seals overlap the metal by about one inch. From there I
adjusted the width of the seals if required to get the best fit to the cowl.
As you have observed you do not want too much seal material so that it hangs
away from the cowl.
Dale Ensing
----- Original Message -----
From: "James H Nelson" <rv9jim@juno.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:21 PM
Subject: RV-List: Baffle rubber height
>
> I have cut my metal baffles to the proper height but I can not find where
> the dimension is given for the rubber flex portion. How much should I
> leave above the metal portion. How much extra should be present after the
> rubber touches the cowling. I've seen some pix of some that had lots of
> material such that the rubber was sagging even when the cowl was off.
> Just a bit confused and need some help---HELP!
>
>
> Jim Nelson
> RV9-A
> (trying to finish the FWF)
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Short (Low Profile) Avionics |
Roger
Are you a tip up or slider canopy.
On my 7A tip up I cut the ribs at the sub panel and moved them outboard
...as I remember about 3 inches. This will accomadate my Garmin Stack.
Frank @ SGu and SLC....wiring/fiberglass......$$$$$$$$$
>From: Lapsley R & Sandra E Caldwell <lrsecaldwell@earthlink.net>
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: Short (Low Profile) Avionics
>Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:35:20 -0500
>
><lrsecaldwell@earthlink.net>
>
>I just starting the instrumrent panel for and RV-7. I have laid oit
>cutouts for D100 and EMS120. Little space remains for radio stacks.
>
>What are the shortest audio panels, txpdrs, and Nav/Coms?
>
>Roger
>
>
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| Subject: | Breakfast Suggestion for FTG RVers |
It seems that beaucoup RVs from FTG (Front Range CO) go to Greeley
for breakfast. Last Sunday two pilots I know had to wait for 45 minutes
to get their meal and then were not impressed with it.
If you guys are looking for a new spot consider Salida or Leadville.
Salida has three courtesy cars and Leadville has at least one. In
Salida go to the Patio Pancake Place on the main road.
You won't get this kind of scenery going to GXY:
http://tinyurl.com/y78c8s
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Labelling the trim wheel position ... |
I have the manual trim in my RV-9 and I was about to label the
panel "Nose-Up/Nose-Down" and realized I've never actually
looked at which way it works.
Is this right ... deflecting the trim tab down, relative to the
plane of the elevator, will force the elevator up thus lowering
the tail, thus raising the nose. In summary - trim tab down,
nose up ? Or is it the reverse ...
__g__
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Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
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| Subject: | Re: Labelling the trim wheel position ... |
You got it right. Tab down, nose up.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerry Filby" <gerf@gerf.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:09 PM
Subject: RV-List: Labelling the trim wheel position ...
>
> I have the manual trim in my RV-9 and I was about to label the
> panel "Nose-Up/Nose-Down" and realized I've never actually
> looked at which way it works.
>
> Is this right ... deflecting the trim tab down, relative to the
> plane of the elevator, will force the elevator up thus lowering
> the tail, thus raising the nose. In summary - trim tab down,
> nose up ? Or is it the reverse ...
>
> __g__
>
> ==========================================================
> Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
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| Subject: | Re: Labelling the trim wheel position ... |
Gerry Filby wrote:
>
>I have the manual trim in my RV-9 and I was about to label the
>panel "Nose-Up/Nose-Down" and realized I've never actually
>looked at which way it works.
>
>Is this right ... deflecting the trim tab down, relative to the
>plane of the elevator, will force the elevator up thus lowering
>the tail, thus raising the nose. In summary - trim tab down,
>nose up ?
>
Correct, trim down nose up
Jerry
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