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1. 06:46 AM - Re: Forward vision for tail wheel pilots (glen matejcek)
2. 08:20 AM - Re: Re: Forward vision for tail wheel pilots (John Porter)
3. 09:37 AM - Re: Forward vision for tail wheel pilots (Michael)
4. 11:00 AM - Long legged passenger (Smitty)
5. 12:20 PM - Re: Re: Forward vision for tail wheel pilots (Terry Watson)
6. 12:26 PM - Re: Forward vision for tail wheel pilots ()
7. 12:57 PM - Hanging Elevators (Bill Settle)
8. 01:25 PM - Re: Forward vision for tail wheel pilots (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
9. 02:18 PM - Re: Re: Forward vision for tail wheel pilots (Terry Watson)
10. 02:20 PM - Re: Hanging Elevators (Bill Settle)
11. 03:20 PM - plugging hole at rear of cylinders (Tim Bryan)
12. 03:47 PM - Re: Long legged passenger (LarryRobertHelming)
13. 06:04 PM - Re: Re: Fuel vents (Rick Gray)
14. 07:52 PM - Re: Long legged passenger ()
15. 08:34 PM - Re: plugging hole at rear of cylinders (Charlie England)
16. 11:00 PM - Re: Re: Forward vision for tail wheel pilots (Mickey Coggins)
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| Subject: | RE: Forward vision for tail wheel pilots |
Wow-
Move over primer!
Let me just say that the fellow who flew the H-1 replica said the fwd vis
unit installed on that plane was a godsend. Unfortunately, it couldn't
keep the engine running-
glen matejcek
aerobubba@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Forward vision for tail wheel pilots |
Glen,
I LOVE IT!!! Move over primer, ha ha. I say weigh the benefits, think
about it, and use it if it makes sense. These are experimental right? (
that said, I'm built straight to plans). Since I'm the slowest -8 builder,
I feel qualified to comment. This list has SO much good stuff on it, I
really appreciate everyone's expertise. But over like the last two years it
has become a vent for some, to really lay others low. I don't know why that
is?
All I know is we all selected a great airframe. If a guy wants to fly it
on floats, or to Alaska, or over the in-laws to prove something, or at
night, or in the weather, or upside down, it's okay................jeesh.
I've spent my entire life in aviation. I love flying airplanes for
whatever reason, (I think I know mine). I don't know why others fly, but
if they get the same joy I get from hanging around the airport, flying in
the sun, talking about women and perfecting their craft then in the words of
"Stripes" (an epic film worthy of an Oscar, ha,ha), "Lighten up, Francis".
Flames are for afterburners. Thankfully, Van didn't listen to people who
said building his own airplane was stupid...........
My two cents,
John
#80002
----- Original Message -----
From: "glen matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 9:45 AM
Subject: RV-List: RE: Forward vision for tail wheel pilots
>
> Wow-
>
> Move over primer!
>
> Let me just say that the fellow who flew the H-1 replica said the fwd vis
> unit installed on that plane was a godsend. Unfortunately, it couldn't
> keep the engine running-
>
> glen matejcek
> aerobubba@earthlink.net
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Forward vision for tail wheel pilots |
Blind spot? What blind spot. In taxiing an RV-4, one has either seen what is
ahead or is looking at it. You also have to taxi ahead of your aircraft the
same as flying ahead of your aircraft. If I am so far behind my aircraft as
I am TAXIING for crying out loud, then I had better taxi her right back to
the hangar. Am I doing my checklist when I am taxiing? Instrument scan?
Radio frequency check? Control check? No. I am taxiing the aircraft.
Everything else can wait. Yes, those airline-types do it on the run. Right.
Both pilots doing the checklists. Yours can wait. And I am always quite a
ways behind the aircraft in front of me, even and maybe especially at OSH.
You never know what they are going to suddenly be inclined to do. This is
not NASCAR; drafting has no advantage here. And a mirror for the ones
behind. And looking around.
Besides, my other ride is a J-3 Cub. You want to discuss blind spots. Just
sit in the back seat and drive it somewhere. Oh, well, you have to PAY
ATTENTION. Doing S-turns and looking ahead. Huh. Or I could put a video
monitor in the back seat of the Cub. Since they haven't been around very
long, I guess no one ever thought of that.
And a stall-warning device.
And a stick shaker.
And a BRS.
And a Ground Proximity Radar
And a..............
What's that thumping? Oh, it's Charles Lindbergh rolling in his grave.
Do not archive
Michael
RV-4 N232 Suzie Q
Guess I'll go put the airplane away. This Flying thing is just to dangerous
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| Subject: | Long legged passenger |
One of long legged buddies asked me if he was going to fit in my RV when I
get it built. Since I haven't gotten that far yet I didn't know what to tell
him. How "adjustable" are the seats and/or rudder pedals?
Thanks!
Smitty
http://SmittysRV.com
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| Subject: | Re: Forward vision for tail wheel pilots |
OK, I move that Michael be excused from any mandatory requirement that this
group adopts to require all tailwheel RV's to have video monitoring of
anything.
My tailwheel experience is so limited to be virtually non-existent. My very
first ride in an RV was in the back seat of Rob Huntsinger's RV-4 at
Arlington north of Seattle, probably close to ten years ago. We taxied to
the north end of the field to get fuel, then headed south on the taxiway to
take off. It was a busy spring day. Tow planes with gliders were launching
between the taxiway and the runway. People were walking across the taxiway
to the glider area. I was happily getting used to the back seat totally
oblivious to anything in front of us and Rob was S-turning our way along the
taxiway. Suddenly an S turn became a 90 degree turn with a shot of power and
we were off the taxiway into the grass. Looking over my left shoulder I saw
why. We were ducking out of the way of a big radial engine tail-wheeled Yak
going the opposite direction. I'm not sure he ever saw us. Yes, Rob saw him,
and yes, we didn't get chopped up, but it did help confirm my decision to
build a nose wheeled airplane.
C'mon guys, it was only a suggested source for something people were asking
about on this list maybe six months ago. I'm not saying everyone ought to
have one. I'm not even saying it's a good idea; I'm just saying that IF you
want one THEN this MIGHT be an inexpensive source.
And from what I remember reading about Charles Lindberg's opinion of his
total lack of forward visibility in his Sprit of St. Louis, my bet is that
he would have jumped at an option to see what was ahead of him. But then
maybe he wasn't macho enough to fly an RV.??
Terry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 9:36 AM
Subject: RV-List: Re: Forward vision for tail wheel pilots
Blind spot? What blind spot. In taxiing an RV-4, one has either seen what is
ahead or is looking at it. You also have to taxi ahead of your aircraft the
same as flying ahead of your aircraft. If I am so far behind my aircraft as
I am TAXIING for crying out loud, then I had better taxi her right back to
the hangar. Am I doing my checklist when I am taxiing? Instrument scan?
Radio frequency check? Control check? No. I am taxiing the aircraft.
Everything else can wait. Yes, those airline-types do it on the run. Right.
Both pilots doing the checklists. Yours can wait. And I am always quite a
ways behind the aircraft in front of me, even and maybe especially at OSH.
You never know what they are going to suddenly be inclined to do. This is
not NASCAR; drafting has no advantage here. And a mirror for the ones
behind. And looking around.
Besides, my other ride is a J-3 Cub. You want to discuss blind spots. Just
sit in the back seat and drive it somewhere. Oh, well, you have to PAY
ATTENTION. Doing S-turns and looking ahead. Huh. Or I could put a video
monitor in the back seat of the Cub. Since they haven't been around very
long, I guess no one ever thought of that.
And a stall-warning device.
And a stick shaker.
And a BRS.
And a Ground Proximity Radar
And a..............
What's that thumping? Oh, it's Charles Lindbergh rolling in his grave.
Do not archive
Michael
RV-4 N232 Suzie Q
Guess I'll go put the airplane away. This Flying thing is just to dangerous
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| Subject: | Re: Forward vision for tail wheel pilots |
I understand where Paul is coming from, a camera
and monitor in the cockpit of a RV is gimmicky and not
needed. RV's have good fwd vis if you sit high and
pay attention.
I know its easy to take an emotional stand to justify
putting cameras in a RV from the accident, but lets
face it a TBM is a BIG PLANE and could have avoided
hitting the RV with proper technique (meaning leaving
a large gap so they could see the little plane.) WE
HAVE the pilot aility to fly and taxi safely with out a
camera. Camera adds weight and no doubt drag, not
thanks but its fun to think about but not practical or
needed. George RV-4/RV-7
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| Subject: | Hanging Elevators |
Gentlemen,
I'm doing the initial fit of the elevators to the horizontal on my -8. The instructions
say to ensure the elevators swing freely with no interference... Both
elevators' counterbalance arms extend forward into the horizontal skins 15/16"
and I cannot figure out why. I have rechecked the rod bearing centerline
measurement to the spar and have exactly 13/16" as per the plans. I saw on Dan's
site that he had to trim the right skin to allow the right elevator to swing,
so I am tempted to do the same. However, I'm concerned that if mine are
too far forward that I won't be able to get the elevators to balance. Any insight
would be appreciated.
Bill Settle
Winston-Salem, NC
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| Subject: | Re: Forward vision for tail wheel pilots |
Terry,
I found the post interesting because I have been looking for a small screen
TV monitor for a special instrument project. If it will display a standard TV
formatted video signal (NTSV?), then I would like to display various things
like trim and flap positions and digital tach, and some other things I can't
think of right now. I know how to use old Motorola microprocessor chips to do
those things. Would love to feed video to my GPS 295 if anyone knows how.
Would probably have to be hacked to get the source code. Garmin wouldn't like
that!
Does someone on the list know of a small (2 or 3 inch) color monitor that
could be used for above project?
Did the $100 combo have a color monitor?
Dan Hopper
RV-7A
Oh, do not archive .
In a message dated 12/2/2006 3:22:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
terry@tcwatson.com writes:
OK, I move that Michael be excused from any mandatory requirement that this
group adopts to require all tailwheel RV's to have video monitoring of
anything.
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| Subject: | Re: Forward vision for tail wheel pilots |
Yes, this monitor is color. I see the price varies from the $89.99 I saw at
Costco to $98.83 at Walmart's online store to $169 at some other on-line
sources. Here is the VR3 model number: VRBCS300W
I noticed that the Costco part number had "cos" added to it, which could
possibly mean that it is somehow different, although I don't think so.
Here is the product description off of Walmart's website:
Get the security you need to protect your family and friends. Eliminate the
blinds spots and see what's behind you before you back up. Large 2.5"
monitor is easy to view.
* Wireless Back-Up Camera System with Color LCD Monitor allows you to
see what is behind you before you back up
* Comes complete with everything you need to install
* Avoid accidents and injuries in your Car, Van, SUV, RV, or delivery
vehicle
* Camera mounts to your existing license plate holder and provides 110
degrees of horizontal camera viewing and 80 degrees vertical camera viewing
(measured diagonally)
* 2.5" color monitor mounts to your dash or visor
* For use with 12V DC electrical systems
* Installation is easy with the elimination of wires
* Help is available by calling the number provided
* Easy to read, bilingual (English/Spanish) installation
I think I have convinced myself to buy one for my pickup. Gee, it even says
it's made for RV's!
Terry
_____
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hopperdhh@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 1:24 PM
Subject: RV-List: Re: Forward vision for tail wheel pilots
Terry,
I found the post interesting because I have been looking for a small screen
TV monitor for a special instrument project. If it will display a standard
TV formatted video signal (NTSV?), then I would like to display various
things like trim and flap positions and digital tach, and some other things
I can't think of right now. I know how to use old Motorola microprocessor
chips to do those things. Would love to feed video to my GPS 295 if anyone
knows how. Would probably have to be hacked to get the source code. Garmin
wouldn't like that!
Does someone on the list know of a small (2 or 3 inch) color monitor that
could be used for above project?
Did the $100 combo have a color monitor?
Dan Hopper
RV-7A
Oh, do not archive .
In a message dated 12/2/2006 3:22:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
terry@tcwatson.com writes:
OK, I move that Michael be excused from any mandatory requirement that this
group adopts to require all tailwheel RV's to have video monitoring of
anything.
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| Subject: | Re: Hanging Elevators |
Please disregard this... I think I found the answer on dwg 3. Thanks anyway.
Bill Settle.
>
> From: Bill Settle <billsettle@bellsouth.net>
> Date: 2006/12/02 Sat PM 03:56:14 EST
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Hanging Elevators
>
>
> Gentlemen,
>
> I'm doing the initial fit of the elevators to the horizontal on my -8. The instructions
say to ensure the elevators swing freely with no interference...
Both elevators' counterbalance arms extend forward into the horizontal skins 15/16"
and I cannot figure out why. I have rechecked the rod bearing centerline
measurement to the spar and have exactly 13/16" as per the plans. I saw on
Dan's site that he had to trim the right skin to allow the right elevator to
swing, so I am tempted to do the same. However, I'm concerned that if mine are
too far forward that I won't be able to get the elevators to balance. Any insight
would be appreciated.
>
> Bill Settle
> Winston-Salem, NC
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | plugging hole at rear of cylinders |
Hi Listers,
I have mentioned about my high CHT's and got lots of replies. I am working
on the front area around the inlets and upper ramps based on those replies.
However, I found something else to be addressed. At the back side of
cylinder #3 right next to the case where the back baffle is. There is a
hole that goes straight down not where the fins are but where the #3
cylinder is bolted to the case. It looks like there is a tab on the bottom
of the rear baffle metal that was to be bent up. I can't bend this now
because it contacts the case and much work to remove the whole thing for
trimming.
There is another hole on the other side next to cylinder #2. It looks like
it might be too big to just use silicone in there, what are other options?
What have others done in this area?
Thanks
Tim Bryan
RV-6
0-360 A1A
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| Subject: | Re: Long legged passenger |
You set the rudder pedal lengths during final construction. They have about
4 inches between short and long. They are not easily adjusted after that
setting and the setting affects both sides. The seat backs are individual
side to side and have an additional adjustment of about 3 inches from
shortest to longest. You can also have seat backs with thinner material to
gain some leg space. A 78" person will fit but may not feel comfortable.
Indiana Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Smitty" <smitty@smittysrv.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 12:47 PM
Subject: RV-List: Long legged passenger
>
> One of long legged buddies asked me if he was going to fit in my RV when I
> get it built. Since I haven't gotten that far yet I didn't know what to
> tell him. How "adjustable" are the seats and/or rudder pedals?
>
> Thanks!
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Fuel vents |
I dunno but I'm planning on trying it!
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom & Cathy Ervin
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: RE: Fuel vents
Rick, That looks like a great idea! I have had problems on hot days
with the vents on my RV6-A spitting fuel. Wonder if the loops of line in
the wing root area would allow more expansion before starting to
spit....spit?
Tom in Ohio (10G)
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Gray
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: RE: Fuel vents
Yo' Crossfire,
This is the vent line you're talking about....Randy Planzer did this
on his F1 Rocket....pic from his site:
http://tinyurl.com/yj3v5d
Rick in Ohio at the Buffalo Farm
http://rv6rick.tripod.com/ohiovalleyrvators/
----- Original Message -----
From: glaesers
To: RV-List@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:23 PM
Subject: RV-List: RE: Fuel vents
<glaesers@wideopenwest.com>
Remember that the engine is (hopefully) constantly drawing fuel
from the
tank, and the air to replace the fuel comes in through the vent.
So as long
as the engine is running, there is a constant flow of air into the
tank
through the vent.
Fuel doesn't flow out the vent from the unused tank even during
maneuvers
because it is (again, hopefully) sealed and there is no air coming
in to
allow the fuel to flow out the vent - similar to dipping a tube
into liquid,
then holding your finger over the end and pulling it out.
Fuel can not 'block' the vent, it just flows in or out depending
on the
relative pressure inside the tank vs. outside air pressure. The
loops in
the Rocket style vent are there so that, under normal
circumstances, there
is not enough fuel in the line to over-fill it, and spill fuel
overboard.
Dennis Glaeser
RV-7A - wiring my panel, waiting for my Eggenfeller H6 - wings
have the
Rocket style vents installed.
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From: Tim Bryan (n616tb@btsapps.com)
Well, if it works then it works. My question would be how to keep
fuel out
of the vent line. With the stock design, if you bank steep or do
aerobatics
will fuel enter the vent and then run back to the tank because of
the height
in the vent? With coils could you get fuel in the coil and have
it not run
back thereby blocking the vent? Just a question, but sounds like
a
reasonable thing to do. Fuel inside is almost unavoidable with
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| Subject: | Re: Long legged passenger |
Smitty,
What model are you building?
Charlie Kuss
---- Smitty <smitty@smittysrv.com> wrote:
>
> One of long legged buddies asked me if he was going to fit in my RV when I
> get it built. Since I haven't gotten that far yet I didn't know what to tell
> him. How "adjustable" are the seats and/or rudder pedals?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Smitty
> http://SmittysRV.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: plugging hole at rear of cylinders |
Tim Bryan wrote:
>
>
>Hi Listers,
>
>I have mentioned about my high CHT's and got lots of replies. I am working
>on the front area around the inlets and upper ramps based on those replies.
>However, I found something else to be addressed. At the back side of
>cylinder #3 right next to the case where the back baffle is. There is a
>hole that goes straight down not where the fins are but where the #3
>cylinder is bolted to the case. It looks like there is a tab on the bottom
>of the rear baffle metal that was to be bent up. I can't bend this now
>because it contacts the case and much work to remove the whole thing for
>trimming.
>
>There is another hole on the other side next to cylinder #2. It looks like
>it might be too big to just use silicone in there, what are other options?
>What have others done in this area?
>
>Thanks
>Tim Bryan
>RV-6
>0-360 A1A
>
Can you cut an oversize 'doubler' that will extend far enough to fill
the gap? Pop rivet to the existing baffle material.
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| Subject: | Re: Forward vision for tail wheel pilots |
> I think I have convinced myself to buy one for my pickup. Gee, it even
> says its made for RVs!
Terry, Please let us know how it works. It sounds like an excellent
safety enhancer.
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 finishing
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