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     1. 04:17 AM - Re: First flight of N821RL (Charles Rowbotham)
     2. 04:58 AM - Re: What's Up with Aircraft Spruce? (LarryRobertHelming)
     3. 05:38 AM - Re: What's Up with Aircraft Spruce? (Rick Galati)
     4. 11:44 AM - Re: Re: What's Up with Aircraft Spruce? (Andy Gold)
     5. 02:26 PM - Chutes in the RV-4 (Bruce Bell)
     6. 05:32 PM - Re: Chutes in the RV-4 (Mike Kraus)
     7. 08:43 PM - magneto basics (sarg314)
     8. 08:47 PM - Re: magneto basics (Vanremog@aol.com)
     9. 11:56 PM - Re: Chutes in the RV-4 (Thomas Lukasczyk)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | First flight of N821RL | 
      
      
      Hi Randy,
      
      CONGRATULATIONS  and  WELL  DONE !!
      
      
      Chuck & Dave Rowbotham
      RV-8A
      
      
      >From: "McFarland, Randy" <Randy.McFarland@novellus.com>
      >To: rv-list@matronics.com, "'info@vansaircraft.com'" 	 
      ><info@vansaircraft.com>
      >Subject: RV-List: First flight of N821RL
      >Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:43:02 -0800
      >
      >How do you convey the exhilaration of that first flight? I have been 
      >reading
      >posts about first flights for 4 years, 4 months, 14 days since setting my
      >first rivet in what is now my flying RV 7A, N821RL.
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: What's Up with Aircraft Spruce? | 
      
      They are asking IF you have an ID and password, not that you MUST have 
      one;  If you don't, you can create one easily.
      
      I order from them from time to time and have been in their files with 
      sign in data for over a year.  It works great and saves time and 
      improves accuracy.  They know your name, address, etc.  
      
      If you are a privacy sensitive person, you can still order with using 
      1-800 number, credit card or by mail without an ID just like Chief.  
      
      I don't see it as chasing customers away as you might be suggesting.  (I 
      also buy some stuff from Chief but find that ACS has the widest 
      inventory of stuff most of the times).  When submitting any sensitive 
      data on a computer, be sure the lock symbol is showing down on the 
      security line bar to know your data is being encrypted.  I believe that 
      is the critical issue. 
      
      Larry in Indiana        do not archive and I am related to ACS only as a 
      customer of over 6 years.
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: John Fasching 
        To: rv-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:28 PM
        Subject: RV-List: What's Up with Aircraft Spruce?
      
      
        I have not ordered for a while from ACS but when I tried to order 
      online I find they now require a password and a user ID just to order 
      something !
      
        What next? Department of Chasing Away Customers is at it seemingly.
      
        I went to Chief and will do so in the future also.
      
        FWIW
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: What's Up with Aircraft Spruce? | 
      
      
      Actually, having ordered from Spruce dozens upon dozens of times,  I find it pleasantly
      convenient to have my customer information on file so I do not have to
      go through the tedious procedure of entering the same information every time
      I place an order.  Chief is okay and I order from them on occasion but they are
      far from perfect.  On more than one occasion, a foul up in shipping has occurred
      generating infuriating delays when they don't have a particular item in
      stock and Chief has to first order it from THEIR vendor.  Doesn't happen a lot
      but it has happened to me twice now in less than 10 total ordering experiences
      with Chief.  I'll continue to use Chief for the occasional purchase but still
      prefer Spruce's speed and efficiency hands down.  As always.....YMMV.   
      
      Rick Galati  RV-6A  "Darla"
      RV-8 Wing
      
      
      > I have not ordered for a while from ACS but when I  tried to order online I find
      they now require a password and a user ID just to  order something!......I
      went to Chief and will do so in the future...
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=81238#81238
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: What's Up with Aircraft Spruce? | 
      
      
      This is an issue that we at Aircraft Technical Book Company  (Builder's 
      Bookstore) have discussed many times.
      
      On one side, there is a convenience factor about not having to re-enter your 
      information each time you place an order, however there are also several 
      downsides to requiring customers to enter user names and passwords.
      
      1] Sign-in systems are problematic and not always user friendly.  I 
      personally had many experiences where I tried to log into a vendor and the 
      system would neither let me in, nor would it let obtain a new user account. 
      The end result is typically shopping elsewhere.
      
      2] There is often a perception of mistrust by customers concerned about 
      identity theft or having their personal information stored in the vender's 
      systems, and potentially sold; again pushing the customer to shop elsewhere.
      
      3] Issues come up regarding forgotten passwords, address changes, multiple 
      credit card usage, etc., meaning the customer still has to review and often 
      update their information; which again sometimes leads to system problems, 
      confusion and a non-customer friendly experience.
      
      All told,  we feel the bad outweighs the good and so we choose for our 
      catalogs to NOT require any form of sign-in.  A successful e-commerce 
      experience needs to offer unquestioned trust and exceptional usability - a 
      philosophy which has proven very successful for us.
      
      Andy Gold
      Builder's Bookstore
      www.buildersbooks.com
      
      www.ACtechbooks.com
      www.Pilotsbooks.com
      www.AMTbooks.com
      www.KitPlanesbooks.com
      www.AVwebbooks.com   (debuting in 2 weeks)
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Rick Galati" <rick6a@yahoo.com>
      Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 6:37 AM
      Subject: RV-List: Re: What's Up with Aircraft Spruce?
      
      
      >
      > Actually, having ordered from Spruce dozens upon dozens of times,  I find 
      > it pleasantly convenient to have my customer information on file so I do 
      > not have to go through the tedious procedure of entering the same 
      > information every time I place an order.  Chief is okay and I order from 
      > them on occasion but they are far from perfect.  On more than one 
      > occasion, a foul up in shipping has occurred generating infuriating delays 
      > when they don't have a particular item in stock and Chief has to first 
      > order it from THEIR vendor.  Doesn't happen a lot but it has happened to 
      > me twice now in less than 10 total ordering experiences with Chief.  I'll 
      > continue to use Chief for the occasional purchase but still prefer 
      > Spruce's speed and efficiency hands down.  As always.....YMMV.
      >
      > Rick Galati  RV-6A  "Darla"
      > RV-8 Wing
      >
      >
      >> I have not ordered for a while from ACS but when I  tried to order online 
      >> I find they now require a password and a user ID just to  order 
      >> something!......I went to Chief and will do so in the future...
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Chutes in the RV-4 | 
      
      
      RV-4 Drivers
      Anyone of you used a parachute doing the stall series in your bird? If so 
      what brand/type did you use? Also what type canopy holder did you have?
      Happy Holidays to All!
      Bruce Bell
      Lubbock, Texas
      RV-4 15+ hours 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Chutes in the RV-4 | 
      
      
      I have a mini-softie parachute in my RV-4.  I would not recommend it
      because it pushes me too far forward, even with the seat back cushion
      removed.  I think it would work better on the -8 or -7, but not ideal
      for the -4.
      
      It is manageable, but not recommended.  I'd look at the seat bottom type
      chutes (like the seatback softie) if creature comfort in the cockpit is
      important.  The quality of the chute seems to be real good, but of
      course I have not pulled the little handle on it yet to test it 100%
      (and that is a good thing!!)
      
      
      Do not archive.
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Bell
      Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 5:25 PM
      Subject: RV-List: Chutes in the RV-4
      
      
      
      RV-4 Drivers
      Anyone of you used a parachute doing the stall series in your bird? If
      so 
      what brand/type did you use? Also what type canopy holder did you have?
      Happy Holidays to All! Bruce Bell Lubbock, Texas RV-4 15+ hours 
      
      
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      I need to see a labeled picture of a magneto so I can tell which port is 
      which.  An exploded diagram would be nice too.  Does any one know where 
      I can find such a thing.  Surprisingly, I have been unable to find a web 
      page for Slick.
      
      Thanks,
      -----
      Tom sargent, RV-6A
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: magneto basics | 
      
      
      In a message dated 12/13/2006 8:45:15 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
      sarg314@comcast.net writes:
      
      I need  to see a labeled picture of a magneto so I can tell which port is  
      which.  An exploded diagram would be nice too.  Does any one  know where 
      I can find such a thing.  Surprisingly, I have been unable  to find a web 
      page for Slick.
      
      
      ====================================
      
      Try _http://www.unisonindustries.com/_ (http://www.unisonindustries.com/) 
      
      
      GV (RV-6A  N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 822hrs, Silicon Valley, CA) 
      
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| Subject:  | RE: Chutes in the RV-4 | 
      
      
      Hi Bruce
      
      There are only a few parachutes that fit into the RV-4. 
      The problem is (as always) the limited cockpit-space. 
      Most of the parachutes available will push you too far forward and the ones with
      the seat-cushions are usually to big to fit between the seat and the spar. There
      is a chute that has been especially designed for the RV-4, though.
      
      here is the link
      
      http://www.strongparachutes.com/Pages/paracushion_304.htm
      
      I got it an I do highly recommend it
      
      Happy landings
      
      http://www.rv-4.de/
      
      Thomas, RV-4 
      
      
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