Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 02:06 AM - Re: GPS Antenna Under Cowl (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Delsol?=)
2. 02:20 AM - Re: GPS antenna under cowl (Jim Sears)
3. 03:48 AM - Re: GPS antenna under cowl (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
4. 04:20 AM - Re: Holes under horizonal stab (Rick Gray)
5. 04:22 AM - Re: GPS antenna under cowl (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Delsol?=)
6. 05:38 AM - Re: GPS antenna under cowl (Jerry Springer)
7. 06:43 AM - Re: GPS antenna under cowl (RV6 Flyer)
8. 07:36 AM - Re: GPS antenna under cowl (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Delsol?=)
9. 07:53 AM - Re: GPS Antenna Under Cowl now heat chart (Darwin N. Barrie)
10. 11:30 AM - Re: GPS Antenna Under Cowl (LessDragProd@aol.com)
11. 11:57 AM - Embry-Riddle salvage parts? (Lawson, Michael)
12. 12:11 PM - Re: GPS antenna under cowl (martin333@athenet.net)
13. 12:34 PM - Re: Insurance? (joelrhaynes@aol.com)
14. 01:11 PM - Firewall Pass Through (Dana Overall)
15. 01:23 PM - Re: F635 bellcrank (LarryRobertHelming)
16. 02:34 PM - Stopped kits (Austin)
17. 03:21 PM - Re: F635 bellcrank (Steve Eberhart)
18. 05:18 PM - Re: GPS antenna under cowl (Bill Schlatterer)
19. 06:10 PM - Re: [Bulk] Re: Holes under horizonal stab (Kevin Horton)
20. 06:42 PM - Re: Pitot Static and Transponder Testing (Mike Robertson)
21. 07:26 PM - Re: F635 bellcrank (Bob Collins)
22. 07:29 PM - Re: GPS antenna under cowl (Ron Lee)
23. 10:29 PM - Re: F635 bellcrank (jlfernan)
Message 1
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | GPS Antenna Under Cowl |
Dan,
Thanks for pointing us to the McMaster single use temperature systems. I
am
impressed by the choices ' they can be a great help in establishing
peak
temperatures in various locations under varying conditions.
Michele
RV8 - Finishing
_____
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
Sent: mercredi 3 janvier 2007 16:35
Subject: Re: RV-List: GPS Antenna Under Cowl
Interesting. Still call me a skeptic, but I agree about measuring it.
I'll
get some nonreversible temperature strips from McMaster and see what it
hits.
http://www.mcmaster.com/nav/enter.asp?pagenum=519 (middle of that
page)
)_( Dan
----- Original Message -----
From: John Huft <mailto:rv8@lazy8.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 6:19 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: GPS Antenna Under Cowl
Dan Checkoway wrote:
I don't buy the 35F over ambient thing...
)_( Dan
Before you say something like that Dan, you should try actually
measuring
it. I have, and got similar results to Tracy's.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: David Leonard <mailto:wdleonard@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: GPS Antenna Under Cowl
Dan, I thought your GPS antennas were under the fore-deck under
fiberglass.
I liked the idea so much I also cut a hole in my for-deck, and covered
it
with fiberglass. I plan to mount all my satellite antennas under there.
Dave Leonard
Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
My websites at:
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroster/index.html
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/vp4skydoc/index.html
http://leonardiniraq.blogspot.com
On 1/2/07, Dan Checkoway <dan@rvproject.com> wrote:
With a tip-up canopy, you could mount the GPS antenna on a little shelf
sticking out beside the cabin frame support channel.
Or, if you're slick, you could cut a little "window" in the top of the
support channel and install the antenna IN the channel.
All that said, my main GPS antenna is under the cowl.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (1166 hours)
www.rvproject.com <http://www.rvproject.com/> / www.weathermeister.com
<http://www.weathermeister.com/>
----- Original Message -----
From: Garry <mailto:garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: GPS Antenna Under Cowl
How do you get a clear view of the satellites if your antenna is in the
baggage bay under a metal skin?
Garry Stout
----- Original Message -----
From: Robin Marks <mailto:robin1@mrmoisture.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 7:41 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: GPS Antenna Under Cowl
As sweet as the cowl install was going to be I opted for placing the
antenna
in the baggage area after considering the potential of having to replace
a
$500 antenna plus the time to re-rout to a new location. I spoke with
Garmin
this morning and their operating range for GXM 30A antenna is -40 to
+185 F.
It seems like we can get close to +185F under the cowl or in a closed
Tip Up
in Texas/Arizona. Heck, sometimes it feels like 185 F in the shade in
Texas.
I have a feeling that the standard tear drop Garmin GPS antenna may be
more
heat resistant than the GXM 30A.
Thanks for the suggestions & photos.
Robin
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">
<http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List>
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com/> ">
<http://forums.matronics.com/>
http://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com/>
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">
<http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List>
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com/> ">
<http://forums.matronics.com/>
http://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com/>
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List
http://forums.matronics.com
--
href= <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List>
"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Nav
iga
tor?RV-List
href= <http://forums.matronics.com>
"http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.
com/N
avigator?RV-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
Message 2
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: GPS antenna under cowl |
> Don't even think about mounting it on top of the
> glare shield - you will get the reflection in the
> windshield. FWIW.
When I built Scooter, the norm was to install the antenna on the glare
shield, or on the fuse somewhere. My instructions said to not paint the
antenna; but, some did and found that the antenna still worked just fine.
Mine is still white and has not been a problem on the glare shield, at all.
In fact, I plan on installing the GPS antenna in the same location on my new
one. It works for me, even if some find it annoying.
I'd be somewhat concerned about having it under the cowl with all that heat;
but, I guess it's a strong little critter. I noticed some of you haves
several hundred hours on your installations with no problems.
Jim Sears in KY
RV-6A N198JS (Scooter)
EAA Tech Counselor
Message 3
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | GPS antenna under cowl |
<Snip>
Don't even think about mounting it on top of the glare shield - you will
get the reflection in the windshield. FWIW.
<snip>
I disagree here. I have 4 of the small black hockey puck gps/xm antennas
up on my glare shield. No reflection what so ever. I would paint any
antennae black and stick it there. Easy to wire and service.
I did have slight signal degradation with several gps antennas right
next to each other affecting only my 430. So I put the white garmin
antennae under the cowl, aft of the rear baffle, mounted to the engine
mount and it has worked fine there for 200 hours. I had the same
location on my 6 under the cowl for 1500 hours.
Best,
Mike
Message 4
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Holes under horizonal stab |
I think Bobby wanted to know how to drill and tap the holes.....not make
the strips??
Yo' Bobby :^).
I've tried 2 methods and they both work fine.
1-use a close fitting 90 angle drill - if you don't have one you can go
over to Sears or Harbor Freight and pick up a little 'snake' drill
extension. The extensions are about 9" to 12" long.....I use them a LOT
during the building process....you can literally drill around corners
with these babies....and they only cost about $10.
2-If you don't have the above then use your 'long' aviation bits. Just
'flex' the bit....you'll be able to keep the drill away from the HS stab
and hold the cutting end of the bit where you need it. Problem here is
you may not have one that is 7/64's tapping size for the #6 screws
you'll want to use here. Not really a big problem....you'll find that
you can STILL tap the holes OK even when drilled with the 3/32" 'long'
aviation bit.
When you go to tap the holes you'll have to go slow as you won't be able
to rotate the tap 360deg. Just pull up a chair and take your time. All
said and done it will still be WAY easier than removing your stab.
Good Luck,
Rick in Ohio at the Buffalo Farm
http://rv6rick.tripod.com/ohiovalleyrvators/
for the archives
----- Original Message -----
From: Kyle Boatright
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Holes under horizonal stab
<kboatright1@comcast.net>
Make them the same way you made the strips that cover the gap between
your
wing and fuselage:
Use an offset tracing tool to transfer the profile of the HS to the
aluminum
strips. Just tape the strips immediately below the HS, then measure
the
distance (call it "X") from the leading edge of the HS down to the
aluminum
strips. Make an aluminum spacer which will hold a sharpie X inches
from
whatever the spacer is touching. Use this combination up against the
HS to
transfer its shape to the aluminum strips. Pull the strips loose, trim
to
shape, and you're done. You may want to try it on a piece of
cardboard
first just to make sure your technique is good...
By the way, there is no reason to drill and tap the holes for those
strips.
Why not just pop rivet the strips to the airframe. Simpler, faster,
and
there is no reason to ever remove the strips.
KB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bobby Hester" <bobbyhester@charter.net>
To: "RV-List" <rv-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 10:06 PM
Subject: RV-List: Holes under horizonal stab
<bobbyhester@charter.net>
>
> Ok, I'm ready to drill and tap the holes for the strips under
Horizonal
> stab, the one that close up the gap. It appears that I'm ging to
have to
> remove the tail to be able to do this :-(
> Please tell me it is no so! How have you guys done this?
>
> --
> ------
> Surfing the web from my laptop in Hopkinsville, KY
> Visit my RV7A site: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/
>
>
>
>
>
>
Message 5
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | GPS antenna under cowl |
What about putting the antenna on the cockpit side of the firewall just
under a fibreglass covered cut-out which could be made into a trap? The only
problem I have with up front in the engine compartment is that I'd have to
plan for one more firewall pass through. I hate firewall pass throughs since
I plan to make each one as fireproof as possible.
Michele
RV8 - Finishing
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stewart, Michael
(ISS Atlanta)
Sent: jeudi 4 janvier 2007 12:45
Subject: RE: RV-List: GPS antenna under cowl
<mike.stewart@us.ibm.com>
<Snip>
Don't even think about mounting it on top of the glare shield - you will
get the reflection in the windshield. FWIW.
<snip>
I disagree here. I have 4 of the small black hockey puck gps/xm antennas
up on my glare shield. No reflection what so ever. I would paint any
antennae black and stick it there. Easy to wire and service.
I did have slight signal degradation with several gps antennas right
next to each other affecting only my 430. So I put the white garmin
antennae under the cowl, aft of the rear baffle, mounted to the engine
mount and it has worked fine there for 200 hours. I had the same
location on my 6 under the cowl for 1500 hours.
Best,
Mike
Message 6
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: GPS antenna under cowl |
My 296 GPS antenna is on the glare shield and I do not notice it is
there. Of course my glare shield is painted black and my GPS antenna is
black.
Jerry
Jim Sears wrote:
>
>> Don't even think about mounting it on top of the
>> glare shield - you will get the reflection in the
>> windshield. FWIW.
>
>
> When I built Scooter, the norm was to install the antenna on the glare
> shield, or on the fuse somewhere. My instructions said to not paint
> the antenna; but, some did and found that the antenna still worked
> just fine. Mine is still white and has not been a problem on the glare
> shield, at all. In fact, I plan on installing the GPS antenna in the
> same location on my new one. It works for me, even if some find it
> annoying.
>
> I'd be somewhat concerned about having it under the cowl with all that
> heat; but, I guess it's a strong little critter. I noticed some of
> you haves several hundred hours on your installations with no problems.
>
> Jim Sears in KY
> RV-6A N198JS (Scooter)
> EAA Tech Counselor
>
>
Message 7
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | GPS antenna under cowl |
Michele:
Do you mean link this as was done with an RV-7? :
http://www.rvproject.com/hidden_antennas.html
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,973 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
----Original Message Follows----
From: Michle Delsol <michele.delsol@microsigma.fr>
Subject: RE: RV-List: GPS antenna under cowl
<michele.delsol@microsigma.fr>
What about putting the antenna on the cockpit side of the firewall just
under a fibreglass covered cut-out which could be made into a trap? The only
problem I have with up front in the engine compartment is that I'd have to
plan for one more firewall pass through. I hate firewall pass throughs since
I plan to make each one as fireproof as possible.
Michele
RV8 - Finishing
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stewart, Michael
(ISS Atlanta)
Sent: jeudi 4 janvier 2007 12:45
Subject: RE: RV-List: GPS antenna under cowl
<mike.stewart@us.ibm.com>
<Snip>
Don't even think about mounting it on top of the glare shield - you will
get the reflection in the windshield. FWIW.
<snip>
I disagree here. I have 4 of the small black hockey puck gps/xm antennas
up on my glare shield. No reflection what so ever. I would paint any
antennae black and stick it there. Easy to wire and service.
I did have slight signal degradation with several gps antennas right
next to each other affecting only my 430. So I put the white garmin
antennae under the cowl, aft of the rear baffle, mounted to the engine
mount and it has worked fine there for 200 hours. I had the same
location on my 6 under the cowl for 1500 hours.
Best,
Mike
_________________________________________________________________
Type your favorite song. Get a customized station. Try MSN Radio powered
by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001
Message 8
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | GPS antenna under cowl |
Yeah - that's the idea. Except that on an 8 half the front top skin is a
door into the forward baggage compartment. I plan to put the GPS antenna
under the other half and the brake fuel reservoir against the left side
(right side being the forward baggage well). The cut-out for the GPS antenna
should be rather large in order to minimize blanking. I figure that a 20
mask is something that one can live with which means that the antenna would
have a 140 window instead of the 180 if it were to lay flat on the glare
shield. Since the GPS is looking at satellites only, no ground stations, I
would guess that this should be OK.
Michele
RV8 - Finishing
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV6 Flyer
Sent: jeudi 4 janvier 2007 15:42
Subject: RE: RV-List: GPS antenna under cowl
Michele:
Do you mean link this as was done with an RV-7? :
http://www.rvproject.com/hidden_antennas.html
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,973 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
----Original Message Follows----
From: Michle Delsol <michele.delsol@microsigma.fr>
Subject: RE: RV-List: GPS antenna under cowl
<michele.delsol@microsigma.fr>
What about putting the antenna on the cockpit side of the firewall just
under a fibreglass covered cut-out which could be made into a trap? The only
problem I have with up front in the engine compartment is that I'd have to
plan for one more firewall pass through. I hate firewall pass throughs since
I plan to make each one as fireproof as possible.
Michele
RV8 - Finishing
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stewart, Michael
(ISS Atlanta)
Sent: jeudi 4 janvier 2007 12:45
Subject: RE: RV-List: GPS antenna under cowl
<mike.stewart@us.ibm.com>
<Snip>
Don't even think about mounting it on top of the glare shield - you will
get the reflection in the windshield. FWIW.
<snip>
I disagree here. I have 4 of the small black hockey puck gps/xm antennas
up on my glare shield. No reflection what so ever. I would paint any
antennae black and stick it there. Easy to wire and service.
I did have slight signal degradation with several gps antennas right
next to each other affecting only my 430. So I put the white garmin
antennae under the cowl, aft of the rear baffle, mounted to the engine
mount and it has worked fine there for 200 hours. I had the same
location on my 6 under the cowl for 1500 hours.
Best,
Mike
_________________________________________________________________
Type your favorite song. Get a customized station. Try MSN Radio powered
by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001
Message 9
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: GPS Antenna Under Cowl now heat chart |
Since I live in probably the hottest climate in the US I feel I have a
little experience is this area. Let me relate a couple of things. One,
in my law enforcement career I had the unfortunate opportunity to
supervise the investigation of the death of a child that was
accidentally left in a car in the summer time. In one case, we simulated
the conditions the next day, same time, OAT was within a degree,
humitidy level the same. The OAT was 112 degrees. The temperature inside
the Chevy Tahoe was 166 degrees.
I guess temps above this are possible but not to likely. Vehicle type,
color, roof type are all variables.
I believe the Sun itself is far more detrimental to the equipment than
the heat. UV rays are present regardless of the temperature. In the Sun
a Chrome finish can be hot to the touch in 70 degree heat. So, you
mount your GPS antenna under the bubble somewhere, exposed to the sky,
it is still getting the UV rays and the components are getting heat from
the sun and collecting that heat.
Armed with this knowledge, I mounted my GPS and XM antennas on a plate
just in front of the firewall and near the top of the cowl. Here, they
never get direct sunlight and have constant air movement when the plane
is in motion. When parked at an airshow or fly in I usually keep oil
door unlatched for a few minutes after shutdown. Also when flying at
altitude the air in the cowl is not very hot. Meanwhile the bubble
mounted antenna has the Sun on it.
Unofficially, I spoke to a person who works in the customer support area
of a large Avionics company. He said the under the cowl is probably one
of the safest places to mount the antenna. There is it protected from
the sun and moisture. He said it should never be mounted in the open as
the moisture is the biggest killer of GPS antennas.
DArwin N. Barrie
Chandler AZ
RV7 N717EE
Message 10
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: GPS Antenna Under Cowl |
Kind of makes the fiberglass window in my carbon fiber cowl seem very
worthwhile.
2 GPS antenna's mounted forward of the firewall just under the cowl "window"
in my "yet to be completed" modified RV-4.
1 GPS antenna mounted forward of the firewall in my RV-6A. 1 year and 100
hrs.
1 GPS antenna mounted forward of the firewall in my RV-3. 15+ years and 650
hours.
I seem to have established a pattern of placing the GPS antenna in the cool
section of the cowl.
Regards,
Jim Ayers
BTW, Just as a sensory reference, the temperature that can raise a blister
on most people (touch temperature) is 140 degrees F.
In a message dated 01/04/2007 7:56:19 AM Pacific Standard Time,
ktlkrn@cox.net writes:
Since I live in probably the hottest climate in the US I feel I have a
little experience is this area. Let me relate a couple of things. One, in my law
enforcement career I had the unfortunate opportunity to supervise the
investigation of the death of a child that was accidentally left in a car in the
summer time. In one case, we simulated the conditions the next day, same time,
OAT was within a degree, humitidy level the same. The OAT was 112 degrees. The
temperature inside the Chevy Tahoe was 166 degrees.
I guess temps above this are possible but not to likely. Vehicle type,
color, roof type are all variables.
I believe the Sun itself is far more detrimental to the equipment than the
heat. UV rays are present regardless of the temperature. In the Sun a Chrome
finish can be hot to the touch in 70 degree heat. So, you mount your GPS
antenna under the bubble somewhere, exposed to the sky, it is still getting the
UV rays and the components are getting heat from the sun and collecting that
heat.
Armed with this knowledge, I mounted my GPS and XM antennas on a plate just
in front of the firewall and near the top of the cowl. Here, they never get
direct sunlight and have constant air movement when the plane is in motion.
When parked at an airshow or fly in I usually keep oil door unlatched for a
few minutes after shutdown. Also when flying at altitude the air in the cowl is
not very hot. Meanwhile the bubble mounted antenna has the Sun on it.
Unofficially, I spoke to a person who works in the customer support area of
a large Avionics company. He said the under the cowl is probably one of the
safest places to mount the antenna. There is it protected from the sun and
moisture. He said it should never be mounted in the open as the moisture is the
biggest killer of GPS antennas.
DArwin N. Barrie
Chandler AZ
RV7 N717EE
Message 11
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Embry-Riddle salvage parts? |
With all the unfortunate destruction in Daytona Beach, I wonder if any
engines or avionics will come up for salvage.
I wrote to ERAU's maintenance manager regarding their ADS-B equipment
(GDL-90's and MX-20's); but they replied it's all being removed from the
wrecked aircraft and kept by the school. He did not mention who the
insurance carrier or salvage company is.
Does anyone know who is going to be handling the aircraft salvage from
Embry-Riddle?
Mike Lawson
RV-8A 81825
Beginning Fuselage (for 3 years now... ugh...)
Message 12
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: GPS antenna under cowl |
>
Jim
I have one of my GPS antennae mounted as below, however when I first
installed it I did not realize that the metal fleck paint on my cowl would
impede the reception. The fix was to sand off a 3" x 3" space above the
antenna mount and repaint it with a grey paint without metal fleck in it.
No trouble since, 1400 hours .
Dick Martin
RV8 N233M
the fast one
> Not sure about the fragility of your chosen antenna, but I installed the
> factory antenna puck from my Bendix-King KMD-150 about 1 inch under the
> cowling, center mounted, just behind the baffels, on a supported aluminum
> plate. No problems in 334 hours and I have lost signal only once in a
> heavy overcast. The GPS locks on after startup in about 40 seconds.
> Don't even think about mounting it on top of the glare shield - you will
> get the reflection in the windshield. FWIW.
>
>
Message 13
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Bobby,
I hooked up with Nationair for my builder's risk and then converted to a full in-flight
policy last June that included transport to the hangar and first flight
coverage. Nationair was very responsive and helped me understand what the
different underwriters were offering. I ended up paying $1500 for a 1 year policy
with Global Aerospace for a 500 hour IFR pilot with only 4 hours in type
(6A checkout with Mike Seager in Oregon). Next year's premium should be lower
with much more time in type. Contact me off-line if you have any more questions.
Joel Haynes,
Bozeman, MT (formerly Lexington, Louisville, and Bowling Green)
7A N557XW 70 hours
Time: 07:42:38 PM PST US
From: Bobby Hester <bobbyhester@charter.net>
Subject: RV-List: Insurance?
Hoping to need insurance soon. I'm thinking I'll just call NationAir.
Anybody got their's recently with any input?
--
------
Surfing the web from my laptop in Hopkinsville, KY
Visit my RV7A site: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/
________________________________________________________________________
Message 14
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Firewall Pass Through |
In looking around the shop when I was first starting to lay out the wiring,
I ran a couple ideas by the ol brainwaves on how to pass the wiring through
one hole and keep it clean.
Well I had an extra eyeball lying around. The ol brainwaves actually lit the
fire this time. I simply removed the movable eye and had a ready made
fitting. I'll firesleeve when I wrap everything up.
See the pic., thought it might help.
http://rvflying.tripod.com/passthrough.jpg
__________________
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7, "Black Magic"
http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackwing1.jpg
http://rvflying.tripod.com
O-360 A1A C/S
_________________________________________________________________
Fixing up the home? Live Search can help
Message 15
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: F635 bellcrank |
To determine if the problem is in the bearing, you can remove the assembly
and feel the bearing with you fingers and it will wobble around. It should
only turn. No wobble. The bearing structure should be solidly riveted to
the metal sides that it connects to. If the rivets are good and the bearing
still wobbles, you need a new bearing. Larry in Indiana
----- Original Message -----
From: <jlfernan@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 10:01 PM
Subject: RV-List: F635 bellcrank
>
> I just installed the F-635 bellcrank,
>
> that one that's mounted mid-fuse. The instructions say there should
>
> be no side to side movement. My spacers fit snug and the washers are
>
> tight against the bearing, but if you hold the crank by the long
>
> portion, you get a small amount of movement in the bearing itself.
>
> I posted on Vansairforce.net, but only
>
> got one response. Ken Scott at Vans says it will "probably" be OK. I
>
> hate that word. Before I order any new parts, I want to make sure
>
> that my bearing is bad or not. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> Jorge Fernandez
>
>
>
Message 16
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Listers,
Does anyone near the West Coast have a kit they want to
unload ?
I have a friend who would like an RV4,6, or 7 or 8 . Please reply off
list if you have such a kit, or know of one available.
Many thanks,
Austin,
Calgary
Message 17
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: F635 bellcrank |
This was a concern of mine also. I have about 3/32" side movement at
the end of the long bellcrank arm. I checked on all of my "reference"
construction sites and most of them had the same small amount of play
and in most cases had a similar statement from Van's that it was
probably alright. I have declared mine to be within my tolerances at
3/32" and just today was able to move the elevator, for the first time,
from the bellcrank.
I did find a potential problem with the push rod though. I had used the
shorter of the two lengths of rod end bearings for my push rod ends. I
was very concerned about the few threads that were in the end cap and
was going to safety wire the lock nut. Then I realized that I had used
the shorter rod end bearings. After changing to the longer ones all is
well. Easily 2/3 of the threaded portion is is the end cap so they
can't un-screw themselves.
Steve Eberhart
http://www.newtech.com/n14se/P1010326.JPG
LarryRobertHelming wrote:
> <lhelming@sigecom.net>
>
> To determine if the problem is in the bearing, you can remove the
> assembly and feel the bearing with you fingers and it will wobble
> around. It should only turn. No wobble. The bearing structure
> should be solidly riveted to the metal sides that it connects to. If
> the rivets are good and the bearing still wobbles, you need a new
> bearing. Larry in Indiana
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <jlfernan@bellsouth.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 10:01 PM
> Subject: RV-List: F635 bellcrank
>
>
>>
>> I just installed the F-635 bellcrank,
>>
>> that one that's mounted mid-fuse. The instructions say there should
>>
>> be no side to side movement. My spacers fit snug and the washers are
>>
>> tight against the bearing, but if you hold the crank by the long
>>
>> portion, you get a small amount of movement in the bearing itself.
>>
>> I posted on Vansairforce.net, but only
>>
>> got one response. Ken Scott at Vans says it will "probably" be OK. I
>>
>> hate that word. Before I order any new parts, I want to make sure
>>
>> that my bearing is bad or not. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jorge Fernandez
Message 18
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | GPS antenna under cowl |
Anybody have any experience with a cowl mount under fiberglass with a
metallic topcoat paint job. Someone noted before that this might be
trouble and that was exactly what I was planning to do! Anyone actually
tried it?
Thanks
Bill S
7a engine
Do not archive
Message 19
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Holes under horizonal stab |
On 4 Jan 2007, at 07:18, Rick Gray wrote:
> I think Bobby wanted to know how to drill and tap the holes.....not
> make the strips??
To tap the holes, I used a cylindrical tap holder that has a sliding
extension arm to turn it.
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8
Message 20
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Pitot Static and Transponder Testing |
The requirement is in FAR 91. I am sorry but I don't have my regs with me
at the moment and cann't quote exact paragraph. Basically you need to get
the transponder and encoder checked every two years for any type of flying.
You only need to get a pitot/staic check done if you fly IFR or if the pi
tot/static system has been broken open for any reason.
Mike Robertson
Das Fed
> Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 18:13:44 -0500> From: rhdudley1@bellsouth.net> To:
rv-list@matronics.com> Subject: RV-List: Pitot Static and Transponder Testi
t>> > Listers,> > Can someone please steer me to the FARs that address the
periodic > testing of the pitot static system, altimeter, transponder and e
ncoder?> All those tests were done before my first flight. I'm now approach
ing > the two year point and would like to find the details of what tests m
ust > be done before the end of the two years.> Thanks in advance.> > Richa
====================> > >
_________________________________________________________________
Try amazing new 3D maps
http://maps.live.com/?wip=51
Message 21
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: F635 bellcrank |
I don't recall seeing the side-to-side play notation in the instructions. What
page was that on?
--------
Bob Collins
St. Paul, Minn.
RV Builder's Hotline (free!)
http://rvhotline.expercraft.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85556#85556
Message 22
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | GPS antenna under cowl |
>Anybody have any experience with a cowl mount under fiberglass with a
>metallic topcoat paint job. Someone noted before that this might be
>trouble and that was exactly what I was planning to do! Anyone actually
>tried it?
I just read a post about that today I think from Mr Martin (The slow one)
or Mr Ayers. Seems they had to remove some of it but check the web
archives.
There may be such a cowl at the airport that I can check in a day or so.
If so I will try a handheld receiver under it and report back.
Ron Lee
Do not archive
Message 23
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: F635 bellcrank |
The instructions start at the bottom of 8-10 and finish with "...with no side to
side play". top of page 8-11.
--------
Jorge Fernandez
N214JL Reserved
9A QB
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85578#85578
Other Matronics Email List Services
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
|