---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/25/07: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:48 AM - Re: Re: new improved full swiveling tailwheel (Dan) 2. 08:11 AM - Superior XP O-320 Engine - Carb Interference With Lower Cowl (Snow, Daniel A.) 3. 09:03 AM - Re: Superior XP O-320 Engine - Carb Interference With Lower Cowl (Steve Sampson) 4. 10:03 AM - Re: Superior XP O-320 Engine - Carb Interference With Lower Cowl (Gerry Filby) 5. 10:44 AM - Fix For Superior XP O-320 Engine - Carb Interference With Lower Cowl (Snow, Daniel A.) 6. 11:09 AM - Audio Panel Deals (Dave Saylor) 7. 11:48 AM - Re: Superior XP O-320 Engine - Carb Interference With Lower Cowl (Peter Mather) 8. 02:59 PM - Re: Insurance (bertrv6@highstream.net) 9. 03:33 PM - Re: Insurance (Dave McCoy) 10. 04:46 PM - Re: Insurance (Tom & Cathy Ervin) 11. 05:27 PM - Re: Superior XP O-320 Engine - Carb Interference With Lower Cowl (Brian Alley) 12. 06:39 PM - Superior Investment Cast Cylinders Discontiued...? (Darrell Reiley) 13. 07:18 PM - Re: Superior Investment Cast Cylinders Discontiued...? (Bobby Hester) 14. 08:05 PM - Phase I flight area (Bobby Hester) 15. 08:41 PM - Re: Phase I flight area (Bruce Gray) 16. 11:47 PM - Re: Fix For Superior XP O-320 Engine - Carb Interference With Lower Cowl (Steve Sampson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:48:36 AM PST US From: Dan Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: new improved full swiveling tailwheel How about a link to Wayne Haddaths steering link Thanks, Dan -8 Jeff Linebaugh wrote: Vince, this is not spam builders and flyers should be aware of new products available to them. I have been very pleased with your new tailwheel. We operate out of an ex-navy base that has deep tie-down stanchions every 25 feet or so. We used to bottom out the tailwheel going over them (crunch..scrape..ouch!)it was very difficult not to hit them. Vinces tailwheel fixed the problem by increasing clearance. Coupled with Wayne Haddaths steering link, steering is very positive and responsive without being twitchy. I highly recommend both! Jeff Linebaugh jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net F1 Rocket #33 N240KT Memphis, TN. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:11:26 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Superior XP O-320 Engine - Carb Interference With Lower Cowl From: "Snow, Daniel A." After trimming and fitting the lower cowl of my 9A to the spinner back plate and fuselage, I've found that I have insufficient room for the Vans air filter. The filter is about 2-3/8" high, and the space between the cowl and carburetor is only 1-3/4". These dimensions don't even take into consideration the thickness of the FAB or space needed between the FAB and cowl. The carburetor appears to be Superior's normally supplied Precision MA-4-5, but the Authorized Release Certificate refers to the LYC 0-360 under "Eligibility". Has anyone experienced this problem, or does anyone have any good ideas to work around this apparent problem? I don't think I want to go with a shorter filter, as this would reduce the cross sectional area by more than 50%. I also don't like the idea of removing the engine and sending it back to Superior for refit of a different carburetor. Thanks in advance for any suggestions or solutions. Daniel Snow RV-9A, Cowl ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:03:09 AM PST US From: "Steve Sampson" Subject: Re: RV-List: Superior XP O-320 Engine - Carb Interference With Lower Cowl Daniel - I think the issue you are running into is the same as outlined here. http://gikoncnsdr.blogspot.com/2006/06/rv-4-cowls.html The -9A cowl assumes a carbd O-320. I built a -9A and there was very little room below the airbox. It sounds as though you have an o-360 carb. which I think (not sure) is bigger. Perhaps Superior would swap it. Alternatively, there must be a 7A cowl varient that would fit since they permit the bigger engines. Not what you want to hear perhaps, so I would chase down the carb details. Goodluck, Steve. On 25/01/07, Snow, Daniel A. wrote: > > > After trimming and fitting the lower cowl of my 9A to the spinner back > plate and fuselage, I've found that I have insufficient room for the > Vans air filter. The filter is about 2-3/8" high, and the space between > the cowl and carburetor is only 1-3/4". These dimensions don't even > take into consideration the thickness of the FAB or space needed between > the FAB and cowl. The carburetor appears to be Superior's normally > supplied Precision MA-4-5, but the Authorized Release Certificate refers > to the LYC 0-360 under "Eligibility". > > Has anyone experienced this problem, or does anyone have any good ideas > to work around this apparent problem? I don't think I want to go with a > shorter filter, as this would reduce the cross sectional area by more > than 50%. I also don't like the idea of removing the engine and sending > it back to Superior for refit of a different carburetor. > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions or solutions. > > Daniel Snow > RV-9A, Cowl > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:03:32 AM PST US From: "Gerry Filby" Subject: Re: RV-List: Superior XP O-320 Engine - Carb Interference With Lower Cowl Had this same issue with my IO-320 with AFP fuel injection controller - t he 320 cowl isn't big enough. I had to use the 360 cowl. I guess you don' t have the option of swapping it out with Vans now that you've trimmed it (try it on with them ?). You could always break out the fiberglass suppl ies and re-fabricate the lower portion ... g -----Original Message----- From: Steve Sampson [mailto:ssamps@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 09:02 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Superior XP O-320 Engine - Carb Interference With L ower Cowl Daniel - I think the issue you are running into is the same as outlined h ere. http://gikoncnsdr.blogspot.com/2006/06/rv-4-cowls.html The -9A cowl assumes a carbd O-320. I built a -9A and there was very litt le room below the airbox. It sounds as though you have an o-360 carb. whi ch I think (not sure) is bigger. Perhaps Superior would swap it. Alternat ively, there must be a 7A cowl varient that would fit since they permit t he bigger engines. Not what you want to hear perhaps, so I would chase do wn the carb details. Goodluck, Steve. On 25/01/07, Snow, Daniel A. wrote:--> RV-List m essage posted by: "Snow, Daniel A." After trimming and fitting the lower cowl of my 9A to the spinner back plate and fuselage, I've found that I have insufficient room for the Vans air filter. The filter is about 2-3/8" high, and the space between the cowl and carburetor is only 1-3/4". These dimensions don't even take into consideration the thickness of the FAB or space needed between the FAB and cowl. The carburetor appears to be Superior's normally supplied Precision MA-4-5, but the Authorized Release Certificate refers to the LYC 0-360 under "Eligibility". Has anyone experienced this problem, or does anyone have any good ideas to work around this apparent problem? I don't think I want to go with a shorter filter, as this would reduce the cross sectional area by more than 50%. I also don't like the idea of removing the engine and sending it back to Superior for refit of a different carburetor. ========================_ ===== ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:44:07 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Fix For Superior XP O-320 Engine - Carb Interference With Lower Cowl From: "Snow, Daniel A." I was able to get Superior on the phone this morning and confirm that there is indeed an interference problem between the MA-4-5 carburetor and Van's cowls. They're accepting full responsibility and will be shipping me a new Precision carb that is 1-1/2" shorter than the MA-4-5. That should make the first engine run a little more interesting. Daniel Snow -----Original Message----- From: Snow, Daniel A. Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 10:11 AM Subject: Superior XP O-320 Engine - Carb Interference With Lower Cowl After trimming and fitting the lower cowl of my 9A to the spinner back plate and fuselage, I've found that I have insufficient room for the Vans air filter. The filter is about 2-3/8" high, and the space between the cowl and carburetor is only 1-3/4". These dimensions don't even take into consideration the thickness of the FAB or space needed between the FAB and cowl. The carburetor appears to be Superior's normally supplied Precision MA-4-5, but the Authorized Release Certificate refers to the LYC 0-360 under "Eligibility". Has anyone experienced this problem, or does anyone have any good ideas to work around this apparent problem? I don't think I want to go with a shorter filter, as this would reduce the cross sectional area by more than 50%. I also don't like the idea of removing the engine and sending it back to Superior for refit of a different carburetor. Thanks in advance for any suggestions or solutions. Daniel Snow RV-9A, Cowl ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:09:01 AM PST US From: "Dave Saylor" Subject: RV-List: Audio Panel Deals I just got off the phone with John Stark: 706-321-1008. He has a few (4?) GMA340 audio panels, "overhauled" from Garmin, for $975. He explained that "overhauled" is actually new with a one year warranty instead of two year. No prewire required. I got one, no commission here, just passing on a good price. Dave Saylor AirCrafters LLC 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA 831-722-9141 831-750-0284 CL www.AirCraftersLLC.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:48:44 AM PST US From: "Peter Mather" Subject: Re: RV-List: Superior XP O-320 Engine - Carb Interference With Lower Cowl Daniel I've just been through this with my IO-320 in an RV9A. As Steve says the default lower cowl for a RV9A is for a carburetted O-320. For anything bigger, like my IO-320 you need a O-360 lower cowl. This is identical except that the scoop is bigger. In my case I had told Vans I had the injected engine so they had shipped the wrong cowl. The solution was to cut out the O-320 scoop and glass in an O-360 one. The part number for this is FAB-6-SCOOP-360-1 ($160). This gives the clearance for the fuel injector. The remainder of the lower cowl is the same for all models of 320 and 360 across the complete RV6, 7 and 9 range. The process of removing the 320 scoop and fitting the 360 one was not too difficult. Let me know if you want a blow by blow description Hope this helps Best Regards Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Sampson To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 5:02 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Superior XP O-320 Engine - Carb Interference With Lower Cowl Daniel - I think the issue you are running into is the same as outlined here. http://gikoncnsdr.blogspot.com/2006/06/rv-4-cowls.html The -9A cowl assumes a carbd O-320. I built a -9A and there was very little room below the airbox. It sounds as though you have an o-360 carb. which I think (not sure) is bigger. Perhaps Superior would swap it. Alternatively, there must be a 7A cowl varient that would fit since they permit the bigger engines. Not what you want to hear perhaps, so I would chase down the carb details. Goodluck, Steve. On 25/01/07, Snow, Daniel A. wrote: Daniel.Snow@wancdf.com> After trimming and fitting the lower cowl of my 9A to the spinner back plate and fuselage, I've found that I have insufficient room for the Vans air filter. The filter is about 2-3/8" high, and the space between the cowl and carburetor is only 1-3/4". These dimensions don't even take into consideration the thickness of the FAB or space needed between the FAB and cowl. The carburetor appears to be Superior's normally supplied Precision MA-4-5, but the Authorized Release Certificate refers to the LYC 0-360 under "Eligibility". Has anyone experienced this problem, or does anyone have any good ideas to work around this apparent problem? I don't think I want to go with a shorter filter, as this would reduce the cross sectional area by more than 50%. I also don't like the idea of removing the engine and sending it back to Superior for refit of a different carburetor. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:59:17 PM PST US From: bertrv6@highstream.net Subject: Re: RV-List: Insurance Quoting Richard Dudley : > > Bert, > Try EAA's agent: Falcon and AOPA > Regards, > > Richard Dudley > > bertrv6@highstream.net wrote: > > > > > > >Hi: > > > > Time for renewal of my Rv6's Insurance Liability only...for now.. > > > > Any suggestions as to companies, with best rates? > > > > (I do not want even to talk to AVEMCO", AFTER WHAT THEY DID TO ME) > > > > BESIDES THEM, OTHERS WITH GOOD RATES? > > > > THANKS > > > >BERT > > > > RV6A > > > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > > > > > > Richard" Thanks, That is the one I have now. I guess I will keep them, I only have Liability... I try to get full coverage, but is way to high for me... Bert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:33:37 PM PST US From: "Dave McCoy" Subject: RE: RV-List: Insurance We can also help you out - same rates as EAA through Falcon and AOPA with better service. Call Jenny Estes at NationAir Insurance Agencies 877-475-5860 Or e-mail: jestes@natioanir.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bertrv6@highstream.net Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 4:58 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Insurance Quoting Richard Dudley : > > Bert, > Try EAA's agent: Falcon and AOPA > Regards, > > Richard Dudley > > bertrv6@highstream.net wrote: > > > > > > >Hi: > > > > Time for renewal of my Rv6's Insurance Liability only...for now.. > > > > Any suggestions as to companies, with best rates? > > > > (I do not want even to talk to AVEMCO", AFTER WHAT THEY DID TO ME) > > > > BESIDES THEM, OTHERS WITH GOOD RATES? > > > > THANKS > > > >BERT > > > > RV6A > > > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > > > > > > Richard" Thanks, That is the one I have now. I guess I will keep them, I only have Liability... I try to get full coverage, but is way to high for me... Bert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:46:23 PM PST US From: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" Subject: Re: RV-List: Insurance Jenny saved me over $100.00 this and I have better coverage! I am with Global Aerospace Insurance. Tom in Ohio (RV6-A) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave McCoy" Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 6:29 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Insurance > > We can also help you out - same rates as EAA through Falcon and AOPA with > better service. > > Call Jenny Estes at NationAir Insurance Agencies > > 877-475-5860 > > Or > > e-mail: jestes@natioanir.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > bertrv6@highstream.net > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 4:58 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Insurance > > > Quoting Richard Dudley : > >> >> Bert, >> Try EAA's agent: Falcon and AOPA >> Regards, >> >> Richard Dudley >> >> bertrv6@highstream.net wrote: >> >> > >> > >> >Hi: >> > >> > Time for renewal of my Rv6's Insurance Liability only...for now.. >> > >> > Any suggestions as to companies, with best rates? >> > >> > (I do not want even to talk to AVEMCO", AFTER WHAT THEY DID TO ME) >> > >> > BESIDES THEM, OTHERS WITH GOOD RATES? >> > >> > THANKS >> > >> >BERT >> > >> > RV6A >> > >> > DO NOT ARCHIVE >> > >> > >> > >> > Richard" Thanks, > > That is the one I have now. > > > I guess I will keep them, I only have Liability... > > I try to get full coverage, but is way to high for me... > > Bert >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:27:07 PM PST US From: Brian Alley Subject: Re: RV-List: Superior XP O-320 Engine - Carb Interference With Lower Cowl ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:39:10 PM PST US From: Darrell Reiley Subject: RV-List: Superior Investment Cast Cylinders Discontiued...? I just spoke to a Superior Dealer and was told Superior dropped the wax mold Investment Cast Series Cylinders. Anyone that can confirm this info out there? Darrell Reiley RV7A QB Slider "Reiley Rocket" N622DR Reserved N469RV Reserved CenTex_RV_Aircraft-owner@yahoogroups.com Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:18:44 PM PST US From: Bobby Hester Subject: Re: RV-List: Superior Investment Cast Cylinders Discontiued...? Yes, that is what I was told when I asked about it. I had them on my XP-0360 and they were part of the Recall, they replaced them with standard cast cylinders and said they would credit me back the differance. Still waiting to see if that happens. Sure hope so. Surfing the web with my laptop from Hopkinsville, KY Visit my RV7A website: http://webpages.charter.net/bobbyhester/FinishingUpPg3.htm Darrell Reiley wrote: > >I just spoke to a Superior Dealer and was told >Superior dropped the wax mold Investment Cast Series >Cylinders. Anyone that can confirm this info out >there? > > > Darrell Reiley > RV7A QB Slider "Reiley Rocket" > N622DR Reserved > N469RV Reserved > > CenTex_RV_Aircraft-owner@yahoogroups.com > > > > > >Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. >Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. > > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:05:47 PM PST US From: Bobby Hester Subject: RV-List: Phase I flight area How big of an area have you guys gotten for your phase I flight area? Advisory Circular says 25 statute mile radius from base airport. -- Surfing the web with my laptop from Hopkinsville, KY Visit my RV7A website: http://webpages.charter.net/bobbyhester/FinishingUpPg3.htm ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:41:52 PM PST US From: "Bruce Gray" Subject: RE: RV-List: Phase I flight area Usually, that's a negotiated topic between you and your DAR. It depends on the cruising speed of your airplane. With our Glasairs we normally want at least 50 miles or we'll be making turns every 5 minutes. Bruce www.glasair.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Hester Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 11:04 PM Subject: RV-List: Phase I flight area How big of an area have you guys gotten for your phase I flight area? Advisory Circular says 25 statute mile radius from base airport. -- Surfing the web with my laptop from Hopkinsville, KY Visit my RV7A website: http://webpages.charter.net/bobbyhester/FinishingUpPg3.htm ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:47:39 PM PST US From: "Steve Sampson" Subject: Re: RV-List: Fix For Superior XP O-320 Engine - Carb Interference With Lower Cowl Daniel - now I am confused! From what you say you are building an RV9A with an O-320 and the Marvel is the standard unit as VANS would ship only you got it from Superior. So why does that not work since it does work for VANS? I thought I had understood this! Thanks, Steve. On 25/01/07, Snow, Daniel A. wrote: > > > I was able to get Superior on the phone this morning and confirm that > there is indeed an interference problem between the MA-4-5 carburetor > and Van's cowls. They're accepting full responsibility and will be > shipping me a new Precision carb that is 1-1/2" shorter than the MA-4-5. > That should make the first engine run a little more interesting. > > Daniel Snow > > -----Original Message----- > From: Snow, Daniel A. > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 10:11 AM > To: 'rv-list@matronics.com' > Subject: Superior XP O-320 Engine - Carb Interference With Lower Cowl > > After trimming and fitting the lower cowl of my 9A to the spinner back > plate and fuselage, I've found that I have insufficient room for the > Vans air filter. The filter is about 2-3/8" high, and the space between > the cowl and carburetor is only 1-3/4". These dimensions don't even > take into consideration the thickness of the FAB or space needed between > the FAB and cowl. The carburetor appears to be Superior's normally > supplied Precision MA-4-5, but the Authorized Release Certificate refers > to the LYC 0-360 under "Eligibility". > > Has anyone experienced this problem, or does anyone have any good ideas > to work around this apparent problem? I don't think I want to go with a > shorter filter, as this would reduce the cross sectional area by more > than 50%. I also don't like the idea of removing the engine and sending > it back to Superior for refit of a different carburetor. > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions or solutions. > > Daniel Snow > RV-9A, Cowl > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.