---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 01/26/07: 22 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:50 AM - Re: Phase I flight area () 2. 03:56 AM - Re: Phase I flight area (Jerry Calvert) 3. 04:17 AM - Re: Phase I flight area (Kyle Boatright) 4. 05:09 AM - Fix For Superior XP O-320 Engine - Carb Interference With Lower Cowl (Snow, Daniel A.) 5. 05:52 AM - Re: Phase I flight area (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)) 6. 07:02 AM - Re: Insurance (Jenny Estes) 7. 07:16 AM - Re: Fix For Superior XP O-320 Engine - Carb Interference With Lower Cowl (Kelly McMullen) 8. 07:55 AM - Re: Phase I flight area (LarryRobertHelming) 9. 09:05 AM - Engine Identification ? (John Fasching) 10. 09:14 AM - Re: Phase I flight area (Dan Checkoway) 11. 09:34 AM - Re: Fix For Superior XP O-320 Engine - Carb Interference With Lower Cowl (Konrad L. Werner) 12. 09:46 AM - Re: Engine Identification ? (Konrad L. Werner) 13. 10:37 AM - Re: Engine Identification ? (David Burton) 14. 11:54 AM - Re: Phase I flight area (Ron Lee) 15. 12:09 PM - Re: Phase I flight area (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)) 16. 12:31 PM - Re: Phase I flight area (Gerry Filby) 17. 12:39 PM - Phase I flight area (James H Nelson) 18. 01:25 PM - Re: Phase I flight area (Ron Lee) 19. 01:27 PM - Re: Phase I flight area (Joseph Larson) 20. 01:39 PM - Re: Phase I flight area (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)) 21. 05:46 PM - Re: Phase I flight area () 22. 10:41 PM - Re: Phase I flight area (rv7a) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:50:16 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: RV-List: Phase I flight area We were able to get a 100nm test area. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobby Hester" Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 11:04 PM Subject: RV-List: Phase I flight area > > How big of an area have you guys gotten for your phase I flight area? > Advisory Circular says 25 statute mile radius from base airport. > > -- > Surfing the web with my laptop from Hopkinsville, KY > Visit my RV7A website: > http://webpages.charter.net/bobbyhester/FinishingUpPg3.htm > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:56:35 AM PST US From: "Jerry Calvert" Subject: Re: RV-List: Phase I flight area Luckily, in Oklahoma we have a senator who is an RV8 pilot and he negotiated the whole state as the test area excluding specific controlled airspace. I used the same DAR and got the same thing. Jerry Calvert Ednond Ok N296JC RV6 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobby Hester" Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 10:04 PM Subject: RV-List: Phase I flight area > > How big of an area have you guys gotten for your phase I flight area? > Advisory Circular says 25 statute mile radius from base airport. > > -- > Surfing the web with my laptop from Hopkinsville, KY > Visit my RV7A website: http://webpages.charter.net/bobbyhester/FinishingUpPg3.htm > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:17:37 AM PST US From: "Kyle Boatright" Subject: Re: RV-List: Phase I flight area I drew out an area on an old sectional and asked the DAR to set it as my phase 1 test area. I explained to him my reasoning for the area: 1) A 25 mile circle would put me over Atlanta/Hartsfield, and neither of us wanted that. 2) The area was familiar to me - I knew lots of alternate landing sites. 3) The area had a wide selection of nice paved runways. 4) The area was fairly lightly populated. He had no problem with my request. KB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobby Hester" Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 11:04 PM Subject: RV-List: Phase I flight area > > How big of an area have you guys gotten for your phase I flight area? > Advisory Circular says 25 statute mile radius from base airport. > > -- > Surfing the web with my laptop from Hopkinsville, KY > Visit my RV7A website: > http://webpages.charter.net/bobbyhester/FinishingUpPg3.htm > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:09:03 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Fix For Superior XP O-320 Engine - Carb Interference With Lower Cowl From: "Snow, Daniel A." I think I saw yesterday that Precision Airmotive used to be Marvel. It looks like Superior originally supplied me with a Precision MA-4-5 and are going to replace it with a Precision MA-4-SPA which is 1-1/2" shorter. I don't know the model carb that you would normally get from Vans. Daniel Time: 11:47:39 PM PST US From: "Steve Sampson" Subject: Re: RV-List: Fix For Superior XP O-320 Engine - Carb Interference With Lower Cowl Daniel - now I am confused! From what you say you are building an RV9A with an O-320 and the Marvel is the standard unit as VANS would ship only you got it from Superior. So why does that not work since it does work for VANS? I thought I had understood this! Thanks, Steve. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:52:14 AM PST US From: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky) Subject: Re: RV-List: Phase I flight area My DAR was new and wanted to go by the book which included the very small ~25 mile radius flight test area minus any Class B space. 25 miles East of me would include a lot of Class B airspace. I took out a sectional and picked up some key strategic airports NE, N, NW, W, SW and S from my airport to avoid the class B airspace East of me. The distance from the NE one to the SW one was probably over 100 NM apart. I then circled within my area where I wanted to do Acro & spins and another area where I wanted to set up a large triangle for my airspeed calibration runs. I also pointed out which airports had cheap fuel and the one that had the prop balancing shop & avionics shops. I also made sure he knew the farthest away one was chosen because it had a large grass strip which I was very familiar with. In the end, he consented. There's no way I would have been happy flying off those hours in any smaller area so I would recommend you try to get what you want. Lucky -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Kyle Boatright" > > I drew out an area on an old sectional and asked the DAR to set it as my > phase 1 test area. > > I explained to him my reasoning for the area: > > 1) A 25 mile circle would put me over Atlanta/Hartsfield, and neither of us > wanted that. > 2) The area was familiar to me - I knew lots of alternate landing sites. > 3) The area had a wide selection of nice paved runways. > 4) The area was fairly lightly populated. > > He had no problem with my request. > > KB > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bobby Hester" > To: "RV-List" > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 11:04 PM > Subject: RV-List: Phase I flight area > > > > > > How big of an area have you guys gotten for your phase I flight area? > > Advisory Circular says 25 statute mile radius from base airport. > > > > -- > > Surfing the web with my laptop from Hopkinsville, KY > > Visit my RV7A website: > > http://webpages.charter.net/bobbyhester/FinishingUpPg3.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
My DAR was new and wanted to go by the book which included the very small ~25 mile radius flight test area minus any Class B space. 25 miles East of me would include a lot of Class B airspace.  I took out a sectional  and picked up some key strategic airports NE, N, NW, W, SW and S from my airport to avoid the class B airspace East of me.  The distance from the NE one to the SW one was probably over 100 NM apart.  I then circled within my area where I wanted to do Acro & spins and  another area where I wanted to set up a large triangle for my airspeed calibration runs.  I also pointed out which airports had cheap fuel and the one that had the prop balancing shop & avionics shops.  I also made sure he knew the farthest away one was chosen because it had a large grass strip which I was very familiar with.  In the end, he consented.  There's no way I would have been happy flying off thos e hour s in any smaller area so I would recommend you try to get what you want.
 
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From: "Kyle Boatright" <kboatright1@comcast.net>

> --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright"
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> I drew out an area on an old sectional and asked the DAR to set it as my
> phase 1 test area.
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> I explained to him my reasoning for the area:
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> 1) A 25 mile circle would put me over Atlanta/Hartsfield, and neither of us
> wanted that.
> 2) The area was familiar to me - I knew lots of alternate landing sites.
> 3) The area had a wide selection of nice paved runways.
> 4) The area was fairly lightly populated.
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> He had no problem with my request.
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> KB
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> From: "Bobby Hester"
> To: "RV -List" Search
________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:02:30 AM PST US From: "Jenny Estes" Subject: RE: RV-List: Insurance I will be more than happy to help anyone with their insurance needs. I wanted to correct my email address for you: jestes@nationair.com (877) 475-5860 Jenny - NationAir Insurance >From: "Dave McCoy" >To: >Subject: RE: RV-List: Insurance >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:29:58 -0600 > > >We can also help you out - same rates as EAA through Falcon and AOPA with >better service. > >Call Jenny Estes at NationAir Insurance Agencies > >877-475-5860 > >Or > >e-mail: jestes@natioanir.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >bertrv6@highstream.net >Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 4:58 PM >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV-List: Insurance > > >Quoting Richard Dudley : > > > > > Bert, > > Try EAA's agent: Falcon and AOPA > > Regards, > > > > Richard Dudley > > > > bertrv6@highstream.net wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >Hi: > > > > > > Time for renewal of my Rv6's Insurance Liability only...for now.. > > > > > > Any suggestions as to companies, with best rates? > > > > > > (I do not want even to talk to AVEMCO", AFTER WHAT THEY DID TO ME) > > > > > > BESIDES THEM, OTHERS WITH GOOD RATES? > > > > > > THANKS > > > > > >BERT > > > > > > RV6A > > > > > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > > > > > > > > > > Richard" Thanks, > > That is the one I have now. > > > I guess I will keep them, I only have Liability... > > I try to get full coverage, but is way to high for me... > >Bert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ >From predictions to trailers, check out the MSN Entertainment Guide to the Academy Awards http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline1 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:16:07 AM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV-List: Fix For Superior XP O-320 Engine - Carb Interference With Lower Cowl Marvel Schebler was acquired by Bendix, who later sold the product line to Precision Airmotive. They handle both the carburetors and the Bendix fuel injection systems, with factory at/near Paine Field in Everett, WA. Snow, Daniel A. wrote: > > I think I saw yesterday that Precision Airmotive used to be Marvel. It > looks like Superior originally supplied me with a Precision MA-4-5 and > are going to replace it with a Precision MA-4-SPA which is 1-1/2" > shorter. I don't know the model carb that you would normally get from > Vans. > > Daniel > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:55:15 AM PST US From: "LarryRobertHelming" Subject: Re: RV-List: Phase I flight area Depends on the authority area of your DAR or the FSDO you are working with. In my case it was not a true circle of a certain size but more defined by the area the DAR had authority to deal within. I think I was more or less about 50nm but could not cross into Indiana from Henderson, KY but I could cross into some parts of southern Illinois. Larry in Indiana ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobby Hester" Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 10:04 PM Subject: RV-List: Phase I flight area > > How big of an area have you guys gotten for your phase I flight area? > Advisory Circular says 25 statute mile radius from base airport. > > -- > Surfing the web with my laptop from Hopkinsville, KY > Visit my RV7A website: > http://webpages.charter.net/bobbyhester/FinishingUpPg3.htm > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:05:35 AM PST US From: "John Fasching" Subject: RV-List: Engine Identification ? A friend is considering purchase of an RV which the builder says has a low-time Lycoming O-320-TC installed. I can't seem to find just exactly what an O-320-TC is. Can someone decipher the "TC" part and say what it describes about this model of the O-320? thanks for any help John ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:14:31 AM PST US From: "Dan Checkoway" Subject: Re: RV-List: Phase I flight area I had an 11-mile square. It was PLENTY of space. Anybody who doesn't like turning shouldn't be building an RV... ;-) do not archive )_( Dan RV-7 N714D www.rvproject.com ----- Original Message ----- From: lucky To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 5:51 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Phase I flight area My DAR was new and wanted to go by the book which included the very small ~25 mile radius flight test area minus any Class B space. 25 miles East of me would include a lot of Class B airspace. I took out a sectional and picked up some key strategic airports NE, N, NW, W, SW and S from my airport to avoid the class B airspace East of me. The distance from the NE one to the SW one was probably over 100 NM apart. I then circled within my area where I wanted to do Acro & spins and another area where I wanted to set up a large triangle for my airspeed calibration runs. I also pointed out which airports had cheap fuel and the one that had the prop balancing shop & avionics shops. I also made sure he knew the farthest away one was chosen because it had a large grass strip which I was very familiar with. In the end, he consented. There's no way I would have been happy flying off thos e hour s in any smaller area so I would recommend you try to get what you want. Lucky -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Kyle Boatright" > > I drew out an area on an old sectional and asked the DAR to set it as my > phase 1 test area. > > I explained to him my reasoning for the area: > > 1) A 25 mile circle would put me over Atlanta/Hartsfield, and neither of us > wanted that. > 2) The area was familiar to me - I knew lots of alternate landing sites. > 3) The area had a wide selection of nice paved runways. > 4) The area was fairly lightly populated. > > He had no problem with my request. > > KB > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bobby Hester" > To: "RV -List" Search ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:34:43 AM PST US From: "Konrad L. Werner" Subject: Re: RV-List: Fix For Superior XP O-320 Engine - Carb Interference With Lower Cowl Daniel, I may be incorrect, but I thought the MA-4-5 (deeper) is for O-360 engines, whereas the MA-4 (shallower) is for the O-320 engines? That's why Vans makes different depth cowlings (320 vs. 360), but that also makes and engine swap to 180hp difficult if you were to have started with the cowling for the O-320. If it were me I'd use the bigger cowling from the getgo regardless of engine choosen. Like I said, I may be totally off the deep end here, so please do not archive. I think I saw yesterday that Precision Airmotive used to be Marvel. It looks like Superior originally supplied me with a Precision MA-4-5 and are going to replace it with a Precision MA-4-SPA which is 1-1/2" shorter. I don't know the model carb that you would normally get from Vans. Daniel ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:46:48 AM PST US From: "Konrad L. Werner" Subject: Re: RV-List: Engine Identification ? Twin Cam? NO, sorry, but central single cam only. Turbo Charged? NO, that would be called a T(I)O-320 Totally Crapped out? Possibly worn out beyond limits Type Certificated (i.e. not yet an experimental engine) Obviously I don't know what -TC stands for, so do not archive Subject: RV-List: Engine Identification ? A friend is considering purchase of an RV which the builder says has a low-time Lycoming O-320-TC installed. I can't seem to find just exactly what an O-320-TC is. Can someone decipher the "TC" part and say what it describes about this model of the O-320? thanks for any help John ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:37:18 AM PST US From: "David Burton" Subject: RE: RV-List: Engine Identification ? Sounds like he is going to have to ask the owner what this means. It's not a standard designation that I'm aware of. General Format: C-D-M Where: C Letters indicating the engine's configuration: I Fuel injected O Opposed type (pancake-style) X X-type engine R Radial type engine G Engine is geared T Engine is turbocharged S Engine is supercharged L Engine is left-turning A Engine is designed for aerobatics (DRY SUMP) AE Engine is designed for aerobatics (WET SUMP) M Engine is designed for unmanned drone (UNCERTIFIED) H Engine is designed for helicopter installation V Engine is designed to have the crankshaft in the vertical, not horizontal, plane. Usually implies "H" D The engine's displacement in cubic inches. M Configuration. Includes power rating, nose section, accessory section, counterweight application, and magneto application. Dave Burton Flying 172/182 Building RV6 _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Fasching Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 8:56 AM Subject: RV-List: Engine Identification ? A friend is considering purchase of an RV which the builder says has a low-time Lycoming O-320-TC installed. I can't seem to find just exactly what an O-320-TC is. Can someone decipher the "TC" part and say what it describes about this model of the O-320? thanks for any help John ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:54:31 AM PST US From: Ron Lee Subject: Re: RV-List: Phase I flight area At 10:10 AM 1/26/2007, you wrote: >I had an 11-mile square. It was PLENTY of space. Anybody who doesn't >like turning shouldn't be building an RV... ;-) Got to disagree with that viewpoint Dan. 11 miles where I live doesn't get you to but one other airport. Save the 11 mile area for an ultralight but an RV needs more room. Ron Lee ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:09:53 PM PST US From: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky) Subject: Re: RV-List: Phase I flight area I was just thinking that if you are happy with 11 miles for phase you don't even deserve to have an RV. I'd think you'd be more happy with the gyrocopter crowd.... ;-) do not archive -------------- Original message -------------- From: Ron Lee At 10:10 AM 1/26/2007, you wrote: I had an 11-mile square. It was PLENTY of space. Anybody who doesn't like turning shouldn't be building an RV... ;-) Got to disagree with that viewpoint Dan. 11 miles where I live doesn't get you to but one other airport. Save the 11 mile area for an ultralight but an RV needs more room. Ron Lee
I was just thinking that if you are happy with 11 miles for phase you don't even deserve to have an RV.  I'd think you'd be more happy with the gyrocopter crowd....  ;-)
 
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From: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
At 10:10 AM 1/26/2007, you wrote:
I had an 11-mile square.  It was PLENTY of space.  Anybody who doesn't like turning shouldn't be building an RV...  ;-)

Got to disagree with that viewpoint Dan.  11 miles where
I live doesn't get you to but one other airport.  Save the 11 mile
area for an ultralight but an RV needs more room.

Ron Lee
________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 12:31:20 PM PST US From: "Gerry Filby" Subject: Re: RV-List: Phase I flight area To repeat a similar thread from another list ... Here's something to consider as you barrel away from your home base deep into your flight testing box that's the size of California - how far away from your home base do you want to be if things start going pear-shaped ? g -----Original Message----- From: lucky [mailto:luckymacy@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 12:08 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Phase I flight area I was just thinking that if you are happy with 11 miles for phase you don 't even deserve to have an RV. I'd think you'd be more happy with the gyr ocopter crowd.... ;-) do not archive -------------- Original message -------------- From: Ron Lee At 10:10 AM 1/26/2007, you wrote: I had an 11-mile square. It was PLENTY of space. Anybody who doesn't like turning shouldn't be building an RV... ;-) Got to disagree with that viewpoint Dan. 11 miles where I live doesn't get you to but one other airport. Save the 11 mile area for an ultralight but an RV needs more room. Ron Lee ========================_ ===== ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 12:39:57 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: Phase I flight area From: James H Nelson Lucky, I think that equates to a little over three minutes in one direction before turning. 3 miles / min rate of travel would make me a bit dizzy with all the turns. I hope to get about a 60 or so miles in an oval (long axis) where I live. At least that will allow me to do the testing that will be necessary for my "9-A". Got a BIG water to my west and Orlando and its garbage to the East. So I want to go North and South and stay clear of the busy areas. Jim Nelson RV9-A FWF ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 01:25:34 PM PST US From: Ron Lee Subject: Re: RV-List: Phase I flight area At 01:30 PM 1/26/2007, you wrote: >To repeat a similar thread from another list ... > >Here's something to consider as you barrel away from your home base deep >into your flight testing box that's the size of California - how far away >from your home base do you want to be if things start going pear-shaped ? > That is why you do enough flying close to home to iron out issues. Ron Lee ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 01:27:30 PM PST US From: Joseph Larson Subject: Re: RV-List: Phase I flight area Well certainly during initial testing you'll stay near the airport. But later in flight testing you're going to be working on things like calibrating airspeed or mucking with the cooling system. Being able to fly straight and level for 20 minutes could make these processes a lot easier than if you can never get settled down cause you're fighting to stay inside the box. It's a fast airplane. When I get mine in the air, I'm hoping for a box at least 20 minutes on a side. -J On Jan 26, 2007, at 2:30 PM, Gerry Filby wrote: > To repeat a similar thread from another list ... > > Here's something to consider as you barrel away from your home base > deep into your flight testing box that's the size of California - > how far away from your home base do you want to be if things start > going pear-shaped ? > > g > -----Original Message----- > From: lucky [mailto:luckymacy@comcast.net] > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 12:08 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Phase I flight area > > I was just thinking that if you are happy with 11 miles for phase > you don't even deserve to have an RV. I'd think you'd be more > happy with the gyrocopter crowd.... ;-) > > do not archive > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: Ron Lee > At 10:10 AM 1/26/2007, you wrote: >> I had an 11-mile square. It was PLENTY of space. Anybody who >> doesn't like turning shouldn't be building an RV... ;-) > > Got to disagree with that viewpoint Dan. 11 miles where > I live doesn't get you to but one other airport. Save the 11 mile > area for an ultralight but an RV needs more room. > > Ron Lee > > > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List > http://forums.matronics.com > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 01:39:17 PM PST US From: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky) Subject: Re: RV-List: Phase I flight area Hey, I'm with you man! That was the final comment my DAR made. I'd be spending a lot of time turning around over populated areas with his original proposal. I live on the East Coast, sandwiched in between the freakin' DC ADIZ, Atlantic ocean and PHILLY Class B. Lots of populated areas underneath and airways all around. It's darn nice to get away from all that while burning those hours off. lucky do not archive -------------- Original message -------------- From: James H Nelson > > Lucky, > I think that equates to a little over three minutes in one > direction before turning. 3 miles / min rate of travel would make me a > bit dizzy with all the turns. I hope to get about a 60 or so miles in an > oval (long axis) where I live. At least that will allow me to do the > testing that will be necessary for my "9-A". Got a BIG water to my west > and Orlando and its garbage to the East. So I want to go North and South > and stay clear of the busy areas. > > Jim Nelson > RV9-A FWF > > > >
Hey, I'm with you man! That was the final comment my DAR made.  I'd be spending a lot of time turning around over populated areas with his original proposal. I live on the East Coast, sandwiched in between the freakin' DC ADIZ, Atlantic ocean and PHILLY Class B.  Lots of populated areas underneath and airways all around.  It's darn nice to get away from all that while burning those hours off.
 
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________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 05:46:13 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: RV-List: Phase I flight area True, you should go on a cross-country hike the first several trips, but it doesn't take 25 hours to know that everything is or isn't working as it should. Just like any flight, one must exercise appropriate judgment. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Lee" Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 4:24 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Phase I flight area > > At 01:30 PM 1/26/2007, you wrote: >>To repeat a similar thread from another list ... >> >>Here's something to consider as you barrel away from your home base deep >>into your flight testing box that's the size of California - how far away >>from your home base do you want to be if things start going pear-shaped ? >> > > That is why you do enough flying close to home to iron out issues. > > Ron Lee > > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 10:41:50 PM PST US From: rv7a Subject: Re: RV-List: Phase I flight area I wish that I knew more about this before I flew my time off. My DAR sucked. Thanks Joe @BFI 420 hours do not archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.