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1. 06:15 AM - Re: Mounting throttle and mixture cables (mkejrj@comcast.net)
2. 06:38 AM - Re: RV Grin Report (Oliver Washburn)
3. 08:07 AM - Re: Re: ATP age limits (Jim Carey)
4. 08:58 AM - Re: RV Grin Report (Charles Rowbotham)
5. 09:50 AM - Re: Mounting throttle and mixture cables (Dave Cudney)
6. 10:32 AM - Wing bolt torque values ()
7. 11:51 AM - Re: Wing bolt torque values (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
8. 01:13 PM - Re: Engraved Gas caps (Dave Cudney)
9. 01:52 PM - Re: Engraved Gas caps (carlos)
10. 01:57 PM - Re: Engraved Gas caps (Dan Checkoway)
11. 02:50 PM - Re: Engraved Gas caps (PittsS1@aol.com)
12. 03:34 PM - Re: Engraved Gas caps ()
13. 04:54 PM - Re: Engraved Gas caps (Kevin Horton)
14. 05:01 PM - Re: Engraved Gas caps (Ron Lee)
15. 05:21 PM - Rick Gray (Jerry Springer)
16. 05:55 PM - Re: Rick Gray (Jerry Springer)
17. 06:03 PM - Re: Blast tubes or not? ()
18. 06:58 PM - Re: Rick Gray (RV6 Flyer)
19. 07:01 PM - Re: pilot's family awarded $10.5M (Bob Collins)
20. 07:09 PM - Re: Rick Gray (Ron Lee)
21. 07:34 PM - Re: Rick Gray (Konrad L. Werner)
22. 09:10 PM - Price Increase Rant (Jerry Isler)
23. 09:56 PM - Re: Price Increase Rant (Jerry Springer)
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| Subject: | Re: Mounting throttle and mixture cables |
Jim,
I have the same configuration . I fabricated a metal bracket which I mounted
under the composite sump using the four threaded mounting points provided.The
bolts were safety wired.This mounted the throttle cable.I used Van's kit to mount
the mixture control.
Somewhere I have my shop drawings. No promises but if you send me your snail
mail address off line I will photo same and send them....That is if I can find
them.
Superior wrote me recently that they were replacing the Ryton sump with a metal
unit under development.Hopefully the same mount will work.
Dick Jordan
N888BZ
RV8A
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From: <jbario@sbcglobal.net>
We are beginning to install the accessories on our Superior parallel valve O-360
that has fuel injection and a composite sump. In talking with Van's, they said
they had no info on this configuration and couldn't offer any help on how
the throttle and mixture cables are routed and mounted on the engine. If anyone
has done this, I would appreciate any pointers or pictures you could provide
Thanks, Jim Barrilleaux
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<DIV>Jim,</DIV>
<DIV> I have the same configuration . I fabricated a metal bracket
which I mounted under the composite sump using the four threaded mounting points
provided.The bolts were safety wired.This mounted the throttle cable.I used
Van's kit to mount the mixture control.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> Somewhere I have my shop drawings. No promises but if you send
me your snail mail address off line I will photo same and send them....That
is if I can find them.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> Superior wrote me recently that they were replacing the Ryton
sump with a metal unit under development.Hopefully the same mount will work.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Dick Jordan</DIV>
<DIV>N888BZ</DIV>
<DIV>RV8A</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>We are beginning to install the accessories on our Superior parallel
valve O-360 that has fuel injection and a composite sump. In talking
with Van's, they said they had no info on this configuration and couldn't
offer any help on how the throttle and mixture cables are routed and mounted
on the engine. If anyone has done this, I would appreciate any pointers
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| Subject: | Re: RV Grin Report |
Congratulations on another flying Rv in Florida.If you contact Lorene at
lorenewashburn@hotmail.com she will put you on the FL RV list and send
you a notice of the various fly-ins we have. We try to go somewhere once
a month.
Ollie 6A Loves Landing
----- Original Message -----
From: CBRxxDRV@aol.com
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 2:59 PM
Subject: RV-List: RV Grin Report
01/30/07
Today @ 8:45 AM N-898SC RV-8 QB took to the air and flew just like
an RV with a 0-360 and a hartzell prop. Left wing is a touch heavy but
just a sweet flying plane.
This kit was # 80533. The tail kit changed hands 3 times before I
ended up with it.
It took 3 hurricanes and one divorce to build. which is about 2.5
years
Paint should happen before Sun-N-Fun by "Florida Aircraft Painting" in
Bartow FL.
Thanks to Duke Raven of Lakeland for bucking rivets.
Thanks to Brian Parrish of Lakeland for his help.
Thankyou Vans for a great aircraft.
Sal Capra
N-898SC
Lakeland, FL.
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| Subject: | Re: ATP age limits |
As I remember there are no age limits on either the first class med or the
ATP, the limit was on what you could use it for. If memory serves, when the
age 60 rule went into effect, there was a companion rule that no one over 55
could fly a jet. That one didn't pass
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Collins
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:05 PM
Subject: RV-List: Re: ATP age limits
Well, no URL in that last message. I guess URLs posted on the Web interface
using the URL command don't translate to the mailing list.
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2007/01/30/midday2/
Do not archive
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Bob Collins
St. Paul, Minn.
RV Builder's Hotline (free!)
http://rvhotline.expercraft.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=91654#91654
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Sal,
CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!
Chuck & Dave Rowbotham
RV-8A
>From: CBRxxDRV@aol.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: RV Grin Report
>Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:59:13 EST
>
>01/30/07
>
>Today @ 8:45 AM N-898SC RV-8 QB took to the air and flew just like
>an RV with a 0-360 and a hartzell prop. Left wing is a touch heavy but
>just a sweet flying plane.
>
>This kit was # 80533. The tail kit changed hands 3 times before I ended up
>with it.
>It took 3 hurricanes and one divorce to build. which is about 2.5 years
>
>Paint should happen before Sun-N-Fun by "Florida Aircraft Painting" in
>Bartow
>FL.
>
>Thanks to Duke Raven of Lakeland for bucking rivets.
>Thanks to Brian Parrish of Lakeland for his help.
>
>Thankyou Vans for a great aircraft.
>
>Sal Capra
>N-898SC
>Lakeland, FL.
_________________________________________________________________
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Academy Awards
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| Subject: | Re: Mounting throttle and mixture cables |
Jim:
I too have the same set up -- I used the mixture set up from Vans and
also used Vans
prop gov. hardware. I used the eye ball mounts through the fire
wall. I fabricated a throttle cable
mount out of .063 sheet steel that uses two adjacent bolts on the
Ryton sump. It looks good
and the cable run is nice and straight. One of the Matronics
listeners sent me pictures of the one
he fabricated and I made one similar to his. I fabricated three of
them until I got one I liked --
pretty simple to do I used a cheep metal brake that I got from Harbor
Freight for ten bucks or so.
If you want I'll try to find the pictures he sent and get pics of
the one I ended up with. I too hope
that Superior's new sump is similar enough to the Ryton that I don't
have to repeat the whole
process again.
best wishes
dave (in the midst of wiring and the cowling)
on Jan 31, 2007, at 6:12 AM, mkejrj@comcast.net wrote:
> Jim,
> I have the same configuration . I fabricated a metal bracket
> which I mounted under the composite sump using the four threaded
> mounting points provided.The bolts were safety wired.This mounted
> the throttle cable.I used Van's kit to mount the mixture control.
>
> Somewhere I have my shop drawings. No promises but if you send
> me your snail mail address off line I will photo same and send
> them....That is if I can find them.
>
> Superior wrote me recently that they were replacing the Ryton
> sump with a metal unit under development.Hopefully the same mount
> will work.
>
> Dick Jordan
> N888BZ
> RV8A
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: <jbario@sbcglobal.net>
> We are beginning to install the accessories on our Superior
> parallel valve O-360 that has fuel injection and a composite sump.
> In talking with Van's, they said they had no info on this
> configuration and couldn't offer any help on how the throttle and
> mixture cables are routed and mounted on the engine. If anyone
> has done this, I would appreciate any pointers or pictures you
> could provide
>
> Thanks, Jim Barrilleaux
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List_-
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| Subject: | Wing bolt torque values |
Hi there,
Attaching the wings and looking for torque settings for the bolts. AN-4 at
50-70 inch pounds (two bolts into the center web of the spar), AN5 at 100-140
inch pounds (rear spar). Now for the close tolerance bolts I am thinking to
use the approx diameter and go with those settings. For the big boys, NAS 1307-
50 (they approx 7/16) so going 450-500 inch pounds and the smaller NAS1304-50
(approx 1/4) I am going 50-70 inch pounds.
This is for an RV-8 with the new wing. Does this sound right? Does anyone
have any "better" numbers?
Thanks for the help.
John
80002
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| Subject: | Re: Wing bolt torque values |
In a message dated 1/31/2007 1:36:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,
december29@bellsouth.net writes:
Hi there,
Attaching the wings and looking for torque settings for the bolts. AN-4 at
50-70 inch pounds (two bolts into the center web of the spar), AN5 at 100-140
inch pounds (rear spar). Now for the close tolerance bolts I am thinking to
use the approx diameter and go with those settings. For the big boys, NAS
1307-
50 (they approx 7/16) so going 450-500 inch pounds and the smaller NAS1304-50
(approx 1/4) I am going 50-70 inch pounds.
This is for an RV-8 with the new wing. Does this sound right? Does anyone
have any "better" numbers?
Thanks for the help.
John
80002
John,
I like that serial number.
Those are the numbers I used on my -7A and the wings haven't fallen off in
over 2 years.
Dan
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| Subject: | Re: Engraved Gas caps |
I remember several months ago there was some mention about someone
doing engraving of gas caps.
I seem to have misplaced the reference. Does anyone have a reference
for me?
Thanks
dave
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Engraved Gas caps |
Dave Cudney wrote:
>
>
> I remember several months ago there was some mention about someone
> doing engraving of gas caps.
>
> I seem to have misplaced the reference. Does anyone have a reference
> for me?
>
> Thanks
> dave
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 1/31/2007 3:16 PM
>
>
Here's one.
http://www.engravers.net/aircraft/fuel_caps.htm
Carlos in AZ
RV-7A (finishing elevators)
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| Subject: | Re: Engraved Gas caps |
http://www.rvengraving.com
Bill Esther does a good job imho.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
www.rvproject.com
www.weathermeister.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Cudney" <yenduc@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Engraved Gas caps
>
>
> I remember several months ago there was some mention about someone
> doing engraving of gas caps.
>
> I seem to have misplaced the reference. Does anyone have a reference
> for me?
>
> Thanks
> dave
>>
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>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Engraved Gas caps |
i had my caps engraved on a 202. be sure to put your n number on them so
they dont 'walk away'.
any jewelry shop can engrave them.
m n m
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| Subject: | Engraved Gas caps |
To "N" number or not?
I would have thought that in a country that likes suing each other as
much as you guys do the last thing you would do is engrave an
identification number on something that can fall off an airplane and
drop through someone's roof
Just a thought :-)
BTW we in Australia are not far behind you guys.
Cheers
John
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of PittsS1@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, 1 February 2007 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Engraved Gas caps
i had my caps engraved on a 202. be sure to put your n number on them so
they dont 'walk away'.
any jewelry shop can engrave them.
m n m
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| Subject: | Re: Engraved Gas caps |
Find some lawyer that owns an aircraft, and put his N number on
it :). No one will steal fuel caps with an N number on them, so the
theft problem is solved too.
Kevin Horton
do not archive
On 31 Jan 2007, at 18:33, <John.Morrissey@csiro.au> wrote:
> To N number or not?
>
>
> I would have thought that in a country that likes suing each other
> as much as you guys do the last thing you would do is engrave an
> identification number on something that can fall off an airplane
> and drop through someones roof
>
> Just a thought J
>
> BTW we in Australia are not far behind you guys.
>
> Cheers
>
> John
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Engraved Gas caps |
At 03:49 PM 1/31/2007, you wrote:
>i had my caps engraved on a 202. be sure to put your n number on them so
>they dont 'walk away'.
>
>any jewelry shop can engrave them.
Don't know about a "202" or jewelry store but I had one done at a trophy
store and the results SUCK.
Ron Lee
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Was that RV-List Rick Gray from the buffalo farm in Ohio that went down
here in Oregon today out of Troutdale?
If it is I want to congratulate him on a Fine job of handling a engine
out and landing on a street without hurting or hitting
anything major.
Sorry to hear about damage to an aircraft he had only owned for a few
minutes. :-(
Jerry
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Just a follow up to add the Koin TV report from Portland Or.
http://tinyurl.com/2y787n
Jerry Springer wrote:
>
> Was that RV-List Rick Gray from the buffalo farm in Ohio that went
> down here in Oregon today out of Troutdale?
> If it is I want to congratulate him on a Fine job of handling a engine
> out and landing on a street without hurting or hitting
> anything major.
> Sorry to hear about damage to an aircraft he had only owned for a few
> minutes. :-(
>
>
> Jerry
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Blast tubes or not? |
We installed two blast tubes to the alternator, one to the vaccuum pump, one
to each of the mags, and one to cool the fuel transducer which comes close
to the exhaust pipe.
David White
RV6 Flying
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bobby Hester" <bobbyhester@charter.net>
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 8:59 PM
Subject: RV-List: Blast tubes or not?
>
> I'm close to being done, do I need to install blast tube to the mag and to
> the alternator? What have you guys done.
>
> --
> Surfing the web with my laptop from Hopkinsville, KY
> Visit my RV7A website:
> http://webpages.charter.net/bobbyhester/FinishingUpPg3.htm
>
>
>
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YES it is Rick Gray from the Buffalo Farm, Ohio.
Several of your friends up there in the North-Wet have been in touch with
him.
I gave the president of your EAA Chapter his Cell phone number.
There is lots of chatter about this on OhioValleyRVator group and VAF
forums.
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=14841
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,977 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
----Original Message Follows----
From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@verizon.net>
Subject: RV-List: Rick Gray
Was that RV-List Rick Gray from the buffalo farm in Ohio that went down here
in Oregon today out of Troutdale?
If it is I want to congratulate him on a Fine job of handling a engine out
and landing on a street without hurting or hitting
anything major.
Sorry to hear about damage to an aircraft he had only owned for a few
minutes. :-(
Jerry
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| Subject: | Re: pilot's family awarded $10.5M |
There will be a hearing on this case next week. I have obtained the EAA motion
from John Wiegenstein, an RV builder and an attorney who was kind enough to do
some of the legwork for me. And today I received the plaintiff's response to
the motion.
I'm working on the story now and it will be in the RV Builder's Hotline, hopefully,
on Friday or Saturday.
--------
Bob Collins
St. Paul, Minn.
RV Builder's Hotline (free!)
http://rvhotline.expercraft.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=92002#92002
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The article suggests that it was a brand new aircraft. First question mark.
Probably just new to him.
Then the landing point was perhaps 20 miles from departure (Sandy). So the
"owning for a few minutes" seems accurate as least as far as flying "his"
plane.
It will be interesting to find out why he was forced down so soon after
take-off.
It also seems like his landing point was essentially an extended final for
runway 7 at Troutdale.
Ron Lee
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I am sure glad to hear Rick Gray himself talk about his controlled
landing in that Neighborhood!
A good landing is one you can walk away from..... GODSPEED!
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| Subject: | Price Increase Rant |
Today I placed a small order with Aircraft Spruce and was shocked at the
price increases that have occured in the past year. I am in the final stages
of completing my RV4 and needed a few minor items to finish off some small
details. I always study the aircraft builders bible (ACS catalog) before
ordering on line and was aware of the advertized price in the catalog. I was
also aware that my catalog was a 2005/2006 edition and that the prices most
likely had gone up. Well the prices had gone up 34% over the advertized
price in the catalog . We are talking in one year! Whats the inflation rate?
Maybe 5 or 6%? I just don't see a 34% increase. My wages don't increase at
that rate per year. Everyone talks about attracting new persons into
aviation but how many would take the plunge if they new prices for the
material they are going to need is going to cost 1/3 more each year? Whats
the game plan here? Bleed everyone death so that there will not be any
general aviation in the future? It all seems self defeating. Drive your
customer base out of flying and then you go next.
Maybe I should take up bass fishing. At least I could eat some fish that I
catch in my $40,000 Ranger Bass boat that I pull to the lake in my $45,000
diesel pick-up truck.
ACS does have excellent customer service though. I guess I just have to pay
for it.
I feel much better now.
Jerry Isler
RV4 N455J
Donalsonville, GA
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| Subject: | Re: Price Increase Rant |
Jerry Isler wrote:
>
>
> ACS does have excellent customer service though. I guess I just have
> to pay for it.
>
Depends on who you ask, I say no they do not even have good customer
service, but we've been down this
road before.
do not archive
> I feel much better now.
>
> Jerry Isler
> RV4 N455J
> Donalsonville, GA
>
>
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