---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 02/10/07: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:22 AM - Re: RV-4 Tail kit (Tom & Cathy Ervin) 2. 12:04 PM - **Message you sent blocked by our bulk email filter** (Barracuda Spam Firewall) 3. 01:31 PM - Re: Phase I flight area (bertrv6@highstream.net) 4. 02:28 PM - Re: Spray-on non-skid Wing Walks (Darrell Reiley) 5. 03:48 PM - Wing walk (Darrell Reiley) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:22:23 AM PST US From: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-4 Tail kit Dean, Points well taken. The tail kit I located had some corrosion and was not exactly as advertised so......the hunt is back on for a tail kit. The good news is, thanks to this list I have many more options.....RV-4,6, or 8 tail should do. Check those basements everybody...leads appreciated! I took my transition training in an RV8-A and found it was very similar to my RV6-A as far as feel. I really want that Rocket Power for this repeat project and would prefer a side by side in a rocket version but alas it's not available. Thanks for the many replies. Do Not Archive, Tom in Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS" Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 2:43 AM Subject: RV-List: RV-4 Tail kit > > > One thing I have NOT seen mentioned yet Tom is the parts of the tail kit > that ARE pre-punched. When I bought my RV-6 tail kit late in 1996, one of > the things that made me nervous was the thought of having to line up the > hinges on the spars and get them drilled without having any of them move > around and cause problems mounting the rudder and elevators later. Much > to > my surprise, Van's had started pre-punching some of the tail parts > including > the rear spars and hinge brackets (and all the skins but not the ribs). > Made life a lot easier and...the rudder and elevators fit first time. The > point I'm getting to here is that the RV-4 and RV-6 tail kits were > identical > back then so, if you bought an RV-4 tail kit made after they started > pre-punching then your life will be easier and things will fit perfectly > when you install the elevators and rudder. > > I know, 100s of people have built RV-4/6 tail kits before the pre-punching > but, for me, I've had enough frustration with other things on the > airplane. > I would hate to assemble a stabilizer only to find out the elevator hinges > bind. If this doesn't bother you then full speed ahead with the old kit. > Make sure there is no corrosion under the edges of plastic coating or on > parts still wrapped in paper and...that you can still remove the plastic > covering, I've heard of people leaving this on for years only to have real > problems getting it off. If you don't want the hassle of having to align > and drill the hinge brackets you should still be able to order the punched > spar and hinge brackets from Van's for $100 or so. > > Jigging, aligning and drilling all those holes and making the Rocket mods > is > going to be enough of a job (but you already knew that, you built a -6 > after > all), just trying to make this part a little easier for you. Rockets are > awesome but, now that the RV-8 is ALL pre-punched I think that would be my > choice (RV-4 drawings are even cruder than the RV-6 ones and assembling an > RV-8 would be a whole lot less hassle than trying to decipher the hand > drawn > blue prints and trying to use your imagination to fill in finishing > details > that are now commonplace on the new CAD drawings that come with the > -7/8/9/10, but...it wouldn't have a 540 Lycoming under the cowl either). > And > speaking of RV-8s, I'm pretty sure that when that kit first came out the > tail was basically an RV-4/6 tail with the exception of a small > counter-weight on the rudder which the -4/6 don't have. This may have > changed now with Van's quest to standardize tail kits on the RV-7/9 but > you'll have to ask them to make sure, otherwise you may also be able to > use > the prepunched spars from an -8 if needed. If you're going to make a > Rocket > you may want/need a counter-weighted rudder for flutter suppression > anyway. > > Dean Psiropoulos > RV-6A N197DM > Finishing wiring, electrical checkout > > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Tom & Cathy Ervin >> Subject: RV-List: RV-4 Tail Kit Advise >> >>I have located a 1989 Tail Kit with very little done >>at an excellent price. Question for RV-4 Builders: Are the 1989 kits >>less advanced than the newer ones? RV-4 kits appear to have made fewer >>advances.......pre drilled skins....QB, etc? Any reason other than >>corrosion to stay away from the 1989 tail kit? > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:04:02 PM PST US From: Barracuda Spam Firewall Subject: RV-List: **Message you sent blocked by our bulk email filter** ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:31:10 PM PST US From: bertrv6@highstream.net Subject: Re: RV-List: Phase I flight area Quoting Tom & Cathy Ervin : > I got a 100 mile circle from my Cleveland FSDO and was glad I did! My RV6-A > was doing 155 Knots at 75% squared...no wheel pants or gear leg fairings. > With 11 miles I would be doing turns around a point!! > > > Tom in Ohio > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ron Lee > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 2:52 PM > Subject: Re: RV-List: Phase I flight area > > > At 10:10 AM 1/26/2007, you wrote: > > I had an 11-mile square. It was PLENTY of space. Anybody who doesn't > like turning shouldn't be building an RV... ;-) > > > Got to disagree with that viewpoint Dan. 11 miles where > I live doesn't get you to but one other airport. Save the 11 mile > area for an ultralight but an RV needs more room. > > Ron Lee > > > Tom: As others have posted, ussually you get 50 Miles or so.. I am on my 40 hrs.Test, and as I said got 50 Miles radious from my air port, that is plenty for me any how.. So. call your ADR or who ever gave you the Inspection, and ask that you 'want an extended area... Bert rv6a do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:28:35 PM PST US From: Darrell Reiley Subject: Re: RV-List: Spray-on non-skid Wing Walks Has anyone used the clear wing walk or night glow wing walk from ACS? Darrell --- G McNutt wrote: > > > A different point of view is that the wing walk > should stand out from > the wing so that exiting passengers will only step > on the black wing walk > If the wing walk is same color as wing it should > have a colored (red) > outline. > > George in Langley BC > > Leland and Anne wrote: > > > > > A California painter sprays on non-slip > wing-walks. The neat part of > > these is that they can be the same color as the > aircraft, as opposed > > to the black rubber stick-ons that Van's sells. > Does anybody have an > > idea of the formulation of these wing-walks? > > Leland > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > > Web Forums! > > > > > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:48:44 PM PST US From: Darrell Reiley Subject: RV-List: Wing walk Has anyone used the clear wing walk or night glow wing walk from ACS? 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