---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 02/18/07: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:03 AM - Re: Fw: Look! Up In The Sky! (Gerald Richardson) 2. 06:49 AM - Re: Fw: Look! Up In The Sky! (Tom & Cathy Ervin) 3. 10:19 AM - What pop rivet does Van's static port kit use (Tim Lewis) 4. 12:20 PM - Re: What pop rivet does Van's static port kit use (Bob Collins) 5. 01:21 PM - Center cabin cover (jlfernan) 6. 02:17 PM - Re: Re: pilot's family awarded $10.5M (Tracy Crook) 7. 03:53 PM - Re: Re: pilot's family awarded $10.5M (Bob Collins) 8. 05:30 PM - pictures of the RV8 Classic Crystal (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)) 9. 07:19 PM - Re: pictures of the RV8 Classic Crystal (cbrxxdrv@aol.com) 10. 07:59 PM - I flew today! (Bobby Hester) 11. 08:48 PM - Re: I flew today! (Dan Checkoway) 12. 09:30 PM - SAN airports (Wheeler North) 13. 10:06 PM - Re: I flew today! (Fiveonepw@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:03:40 AM PST US From: Gerald Richardson Subject: RE: RV-List: Fw: Look! Up In The Sky! Congratulations Jim, I'll bet you didn't get any sleep last night. Very rewarding after all those years of thinking, riveting, etc. I still have another year (or so) to go. Maybe we will see you in Medicine Hat one of these days. Gerald Richardson RV-6A C-FGJR -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Jewell Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 23:17 Subject: RV-List: Fw: Look! Up In The Sky! From: "Jim Jewell in Kelowna" Subject: Look! Up In The Sky! ... it's a bird! It's a plane! Yes, by golly, it IS a plane! Announcing the first flights of C-GIIG (Gigi) today, Feburary 17, 2007. Gigi flies straight and true, with just a few small adjustments to do. Many thanks to all our friends for their support and help during the (less than) 10 year process. Only 9 years and 11 months to get her in the air! Also many thanks to Chuck Ross for the test flights and faith in the girl. The matronics lists played a big roll in making this dream a reality. Thanks to you all, Jim and Chris -- 17:06 -- 17:06 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:49:31 AM PST US From: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" Subject: Re: RV-List: Fw: Look! Up In The Sky! Congratulations Jim!! You will never forget that First Flight!!!! Good looking RV6......Time to ENJOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tom in Ohio (10G) Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Jewell" Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 1:16 AM Subject: RV-List: Fw: Look! Up In The Sky! > > From: "Jim Jewell in Kelowna" > > Subject: Look! Up In The Sky! > > > ... it's a bird! It's a plane! Yes, by golly, it IS a plane! > > Announcing the first flights of C-GIIG (Gigi) today, Feburary 17, 2007. > > Gigi flies straight and true, with just a few small adjustments to do. > Many > thanks to all our friends for their support and help during the (less > than) > 10 year process. Only 9 years and 11 months to get her in the air! > > Also many thanks to Chuck Ross for the test flights and faith in the girl. > > The matronics lists played a big roll in making this dream a reality. > Thanks to you all, > > > Jim and Chris > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:19:56 AM PST US From: Tim Lewis Subject: RV-List: What pop rivet does Van's static port kit use Listers, Can somebody tell me what pop rivet Vans includes in their static port kit? It looks like an SB-42-BSLF, but I'm not sure. Thanks, Tim Lewis -- Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA) RV-6A N47TD -- 850 hrs RV-10 #40059 under construction ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:20:48 PM PST US From: "Bob Collins" Subject: RE: RV-List: What pop rivet does Van's static port kit use I have it on the inventory as SD-42-BSLF -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Lewis Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 12:17 PM Subject: RV-List: What pop rivet does Van's static port kit use Listers, Can somebody tell me what pop rivet Vans includes in their static port kit? It looks like an SB-42-BSLF, but I'm not sure. Thanks, Tim Lewis -- Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA) RV-6A N47TD -- 850 hrs RV-10 #40059 under construction ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:21:27 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: Center cabin cover From: "jlfernan" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This may sound like newbie questions, but lately simple things seem to get complicated. When drilling through the floors stiffners in the the center cabin cover(my instructions say 981, plans say 982, typo?) what is the edge distance for the hole? Is 5/16ths of an inch OK? And the plans say 15/16th's of an inch between the floor skin to the inside surface of the cover. Mine, with the cover sitting on the stiffner is 1", am I just lucky or and am I reading the plans wrong? -------- Jorge Fernandez N214JL Reserved 9A QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p-879#95879 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:17:42 PM PST US From: "Tracy Crook" Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: pilot's family awarded $10.5M First off let me say that I agree with Bob that knowledge of the facts is necessary to make an informed decision about these things and I appreciate the diligent work he put into finding and reporting this info. We in experimental aviation are as vulnerable to a Salem witch hunt as anyone and I hope we get the same consideration of the facts before someone burns us at the stake. But I strongly disagree about the "message" the jury was sending. My guess in this case (as in thousands of others) is that they took the easy way out. If they had found for the defense they would have to face the grieving widow and children and send them away with nothing. It was apparent that the plaintiff's attorney went to great lengths to paint this picture in detail. Some faceless (to the jury anyway) corporation would have to pay so there was no down-side for the jury in finding in favor of the plaintiff. Let's not attribute any phony collective wisdom to this jury. Politicians and celebrities can't afford to say what they often know to be the truth. Fortunately, I do have that luxury. John Q. Public is often a cowardly empty headed slavering beast who will sacrifice reason and truth for any number of petty reasons. Tracy Crook ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Collins To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 3:35 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: pilot's family awarded $10.5M I think that's a very good point. I think the message of the jury is if you contract for services, your obligation and liability doesn't end when you sign the contract. At that point, as near as I can tell, the EAA/NWEAA couldn't just say "it's *their* problem now. Apparently the EAA/NWEAA had an obligation to make sure that the standard of services was appropriate. I believe there was a section in the testimony where the fly-in director didn't know what level of services were provided, and I think the court was saying that she should have. Again, I'm not saying I agree with this; I'm not saying I don't agree with it. For one thing, I don't live in Washington State and it's up to the people who do to change the law if this is, indeed, the case and they find it inappropriate. I suspect that other states would look at this differently. Others would look at it similarly. To the extent that this makes holding a fly-in impossible, I don't know. If the court's ruling was as indicated above, and if the failure of the NWEAA/EAA to check on what fire services were provided, and if the case hinges on that fact, then some protection, I suppose, from similar suits could be found by knowing what services were being provided, knowing the standard of service that is required, and then comparing the two and if something needs to be done to make them square, do it. Bob Do not archive. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Bryan Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 11:58 AM To: rv-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: pilot's family awarded $10.5M Jeffery, You are missing something very real in this case. The experts were the City of Arlington and they got excused. Instead the EAA and NWEAA are being made to answer for it. This is entirely wrong in spite of the whole case being riddled with crap. If the experts are supposed to be help to a standard of knowing what they are doing and we then excuse them from any liability for not then what is their motive to better their actions? Unfortunately when you sue the City, you sue us and is the reason they get excused. Maybe that shouldn't be. Tim Do Not Archive http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:53:59 PM PST US From: "Bob Collins" Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: pilot's family awarded $10.5M // Let's not attribute any phony collective wisdom to this jury. Politicians and celebrities can't afford to say what they often know to be the truth. Fortunately, I do have that luxury. John Q. Public is often a cowardly empty headed slavering beast who will sacrifice reason and truth for any number of petty reasons. Maybe. But part of the problem is the law itself and while we might be able to ignore elements of it we find rather distasteful, a jury doesn't have that luxury. That's why I think the instructions to the jury are so very important. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Collins Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 3:35 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: pilot's family awarded $10.5M I think that's a very good point. I think the message of the jury is if you contract for services, your obligation and liability doesn't end when you sign the contract. At that point, as near as I can tell, the EAA/NWEAA couldn't just say "it's *their* problem now. Apparently the EAA/NWEAA had an obligation to make sure that the standard of services was appropriate. I believe there was a section in the testimony where the fly-in director didn't know what level of services were provided, and I think the court was saying that she should have. Again, I'm not saying I agree with this; I'm not saying I don't agree with it. For one thing, I don't live in Washington State and it's up to the people who do to change the law if this is, indeed, the case and they find it inappropriate. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:30:47 PM PST US From: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky) Subject: RV-List: pictures of the RV8 Classic Crystal Anyone have links to or any pictures of the RV8 scheme Classic Crystal as well as any other yellow trimmed RV8 WWII schemes? thx, lucky
Anyone have links to or any pictures of the RV8 scheme Classic Crystal as well as any other yellow trimmed RV8 WWII schemes?
 
thx,
lucky
________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:44 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: pictures of the RV8 Classic Crystal From: cbrxxdrv@aol.com This link should get you to what you are looking for http://web.mac.com/glpalinkas/iWeb/Personal/KVNC_VAF_FL.html If that does not work go to WWW.vansairforce.net and scroll down to "Florida Wing Does Venice" and follow the links to the pictures. Sal Lakeland FL N898SC (In Paint shop) -----Original Message----- From: luckymacy@comcast.net To: RV-8@yahoogroups.com; rv-list@matronics.com; vansairforce@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 8:28 PM Subject: RV-List: pictures of the RV8 Classic Crystal Anyone have links to or any pictures of the RV8 scheme Classic Crystal as well as any other yellow trimmed RV8 WWII schemes? thx, lucky ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:59:43 PM PST US From: Bobby Hester Subject: RV-List: I flew today! Well I finally did it! About 3pm today I got to fly my plane. It was great, it flew great, it performed great and everything seemed to work fine the first flight. Second flight the oil temp probe stopped working and I played with the nav side of the SL30 without much luck, but I need to read the book to find out exactly how it works. I'm off tomorrow and will fly some more. -- Surfing the web with my laptop from Hopkinsville, KY Visit my RV7A website: http://webpages.charter.net/bobbyhester/FinishingUpPg3.htm ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:48:08 PM PST US From: "Dan Checkoway" Subject: Re: RV-List: I flew today! Congrats Bobby! As I like to say, Welcome to the "minority." ;-) SL30 -- there's a calibration procedure you have to go through for the SL30 to work with the CDI/resolver properly. Installation manual...page 34... http://rvimg.com/garmin/SL30Nav_Comm_InstallationManual.pdf Safe & fun phase one! )_( Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobby Hester" Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 7:58 PM Subject: RV-List: I flew today! > Well I finally did it! About 3pm today I got to fly my plane. It was > great, it flew great, it performed great and everything seemed to work > fine the first flight. Second flight the oil temp probe stopped working > and I played with the nav side of the SL30 without much luck, but I need > to read the book to find out exactly how it works. I'm off tomorrow and > will fly some more. > > -- > Surfing the web with my laptop from Hopkinsville, KY > Visit my RV7A website: > http://webpages.charter.net/bobbyhester/FinishingUpPg3.htm > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:30:10 PM PST US From: Wheeler North Subject: RV-List: SAN airports Not sure this was answered... Cheap fuel in San Diego??? ha ha ha ha ha ha Best in So Cal is usually L35, Big Bear, but is high altitude airport with some winds so bone up on mountain flying. Restaurant is OK but Thelmas up the road two blocks is better. unicom freq changed recently. Otherwise Corona or Flabob, both with OK restaurants CRQ is in Carlsbad MYF is closest to SAN, (Other than SAN) SEE is most RV friendly and RV populated SDM is EAA Ctp 14 home base OKB is just north of Carlsbad fuel is OK usually W do not archive ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:06:23 PM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: I flew today! In a message dated 02/18/2007 10:02:51 PM Central Standard Time, bobbyhester@charter.net writes: Well I finally did it! Ye- freakin' HAAAAHHHHH!!! Way ta go, Bobby! I'm as proud as a pair o' nips on a chilly day!!! Git them 40 off and come on down to SYI for breakfast! BIG 8-) Mark do not archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.