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1. 06:17 AM - Re: Prop Spinner Pattern (rveighta)
2. 10:42 AM - Starter: BNC or SkyTec (Chuck Jensen)
3. 11:06 AM - Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (Konrad L. Werner)
4. 11:13 AM - Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (Bob J.)
5. 11:36 AM - Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
6. 11:36 AM - Austin-area airport recommendations? (Lawson, Michael)
7. 11:48 AM - Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (Bob)
8. 11:51 AM - Re: XM Sirius (Bill Boyd)
9. 12:43 PM - Re: Austin-area airport recommendations? (Darrell Reiley)
10. 12:46 PM - Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (J. R. Dial)
11. 01:00 PM - Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (Chuck Jensen)
12. 01:42 PM - Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (Konrad L. Werner)
13. 02:22 PM - Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (Matt Reeves)
14. 05:36 PM - Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (Bill Schlatterer)
15. 05:53 PM - Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (Bobby Hester)
16. 05:55 PM - Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (PittsS1@aol.com)
17. 06:06 PM - Re: Austin-area airport recommendations? (Bret Smith)
18. 06:19 PM - Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
19. 06:22 PM - Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (RV6 Flyer)
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Spinner Pattern |
Dale, yes, I would appreciate your sending me a copy of the cut out pattern. My
fax is inop right now but you can send it to my nextdoor neighbor, Mac McCartan,
at (423) 257-6647. Thanks a ton........
Walt Shipley
-----Original Message-----
>From: Dale Ensing <densing@carolina.rr.com>
>Sent: Feb 21, 2007 1:08 PM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Prop Spinner Pattern
>
>
>Walt,
>I have a Hartzell HC-C2YK-1BF C/S prop with Van's spinner. Have the spinner
>off the prop at this time and can take a picture or draw a pattern for you.
>Maybe best would be if I copy the cut out pattern on to paper and fax a
>copy to you. If that works for you, send me a fax nbr to my email address
>densing@carolina.rr.com
>Dale Ensing
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "rveighta" <rveighta@earthlink.net>
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 9:07 AM
>Subject: RV-List: Prop Spinner Pattern
>
>
>>
>>
>> I'm getting to the point where I need to cut out the spinner for my
>> Hartzell
>> C2YK-BF/F7666A-4 Prop. I've never done a cutout before, although this is
>> my second RV-8 (My RV-8A spinner was cut out by Craig Catto) and I'm
>> hoping that someone has a spinner pattern online or one they can mail me.
>>
>> The archives showed two folks who provided patterns - Bowhay and Ludvig.
>> Of course, Bohay is deceased and I got a message that Ludvig's on line
>> pattern is no longer available.
>>
>> So, anybody out there that can provide this info? It would be greatly
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Walt Shipley
>> RV-8A flying RV-8 still workin'
>>
>> P.S. The prop is a constant speed
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Starter: BNC or SkyTec |
What's the current concensus on starters? BNC or SkyTec HTI (hy torque
in-line, or some such)? I'm not interested in the PM Skytec but was
trying to choose between the non-PM (permanent magnet) starters for an
IO-540?
Chuck Jensen
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| Subject: | Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec |
Go B&C
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Chuck Jensen
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 11:36 AM
Subject: RV-List: Starter: BNC or SkyTec
What's the current concensus on starters? BNC or SkyTec HTI (hy
torque
in-line, or some such)? I'm not interested in the PM Skytec but was
trying to choose between the non-PM (permanent magnet) starters for an
IO-540?
Chuck Jensen
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| Subject: | Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec |
The B&C is a Hitachi starter with a different nose piece and pinion gear, so
its easy to get parts for it locally if you ever have to rebuild it. It is
simpler mechanically compared to the inline sky-tec. The inline sky-tec is
a good starter, a friend of mine has one and you never see him do what I
call the 'sky-tec dance' where the starter has to be bumped to get over the
first compression stroke, as is common with the PM starter-equipped
airplanes. I am a proponent of not having a seperate starter contactor, and
using only the starter solenoid to engage the starter like every car made in
the last 40 years. Yes you do have a fat hot wire all the time but so what,
if its supported correctly it is unlikely to ever fail. Less resistance
this way, lighter, and less complicated.
Regards,
Bob Japundza
RV-6 flying F1 under const.
On 2/22/07, Chuck Jensen <cjensen@dts9000.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> What's the current concensus on starters? BNC or SkyTec HTI (hy torque
> in-line, or some such)? I'm not interested in the PM Skytec but was
> trying to choose between the non-PM (permanent magnet) starters for an
> IO-540?
>
> Chuck Jensen
>
>
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| Subject: | Starter: BNC or SkyTec |
I actually returned my Skytec LS PM starter that came with my engine
for the newer Skytec NL (hi torque in line) model. Considering that
Skytec is now the Lycoming OEM and Skytec's most expensive Lycoming
model is about $50 less than B&C's cheapest, it was an easy decision for
me. Of course I'm not flying yet but people that are flying it seem to
be happy.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Limbo
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Jensen
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 12:37 PM
Subject: RV-List: Starter: BNC or SkyTec
What's the current concensus on starters? BNC or SkyTec HTI (hy torque
in-line, or some such)? I'm not interested in the PM Skytec but was
trying to choose between the non-PM (permanent magnet) starters for an
IO-540?
Chuck Jensen
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| Subject: | Austin-area airport recommendations? |
In the future, I may be doing some long cross-country flights to the
north Austin area. Does anyone have specific airport recommendations
for the best overall experience? I would be tying-down or hangaring the
plane overnight.
The airports closest to my destination that I'm considering are:
1. GTU - Georgetown: Looks good, but seems really too busy whenever I'm
driving my car nearby.
2. 5R3 - Lago Vista / Rusty Allen: Looks like a nice quiet airport,
but maybe there are some unknown gotchas?
3. 3R9 - Lakeway: I understand they can be cranky with fees and
operating hour restrictions?
Thanks for any advice.
Mike Lawson
RV-8A 81825 - fuselage on jig (still)
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| Subject: | Starter: BNC or SkyTec |
Recommend B&C. SkyTec never worked for me.
Bob
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Point taken. You should see the obstacles my wife faces in her quest
to do counseling without a license from the state.
Your position doesn't sound like socialism, but libertarianism and
anarchy came to mind ;-)
The public protection side of licensing and regulagtion is laudable;
the closed shop end-result is _sometimes_ wrong, sometimes not; it's
never wrong, IMO, to forbid non-certificated bird-men from flying the
public around in airliners, or the sale of home-neurosurgery kits. I
guess I'm just comfortable with some oligopolies.
I'm all for the repeal of the NFA of 1934 so John Q. Public can own
machine guns if he wants, but not if he's a felon or adjudged mentally
incompetent. Can those restrictions be unfairly applied sometimes?
Yes, but it's an imperfect world. Variable mileage happens ;-)
-Stormy
oh, and do not archive - not even remotely rv related; I'm done.
On 2/21/07, Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> Bill Boyd wrote:
> >
> > I didn't stay in a Holiday Inn last night, but I did manage to get an
> >> undergraduate degree in Economics a few decades ago.
> >>
> > Then you'd be just the man to explain how the government interferes
> > with the free market for electricians and plumbers in a way that
> > compares at all with medicine and utilities. Are you referring to
> > Hillary's focus group that's plotting to socialize plumbing and
> > require all employers to purchase single-payor septic tank insurance
> > for their employees? Yeah, I knew that was it.
> >
> > Gotta run; Ira Magaziner 's on the other line... wants to know how to
> > prevent Tax-free House Wiring Savings Accounts from getting through
> > congress ;-)
> >
> > -Stormy
> >
> > {I'm really _not_ following you here, Charlie.
> >
> >>> Plumbers? Electricians? No and no. The law? No, with profanity
> >>> withheld.<<
> >
> > ...but it's not the first time.}
> Just about every form of certification & licensing quickly evolves from
> 'protecting the public' to protecting the current practitioners from
> competition.
>
> I'm certainly not endorsing Socialism but I'm no fan of government
> supported oligopoly either.
>
> Charlie
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Austin-area airport recommendations? |
Michael,
I would use the Taylor Airport. Close in to North
Austin and Round Rock area, less traffic auto and
plane wise, RV's are on the field, small town
atmosphere, very... very good AVgas fuel prices and
Excellent BBQ!!
Darrell
--- "Lawson, Michael" <mikel@ssd.fsi.com> wrote:
> <mikel@ssd.fsi.com>
>
>
> In the future, I may be doing some long
> cross-country flights to the
> north Austin area. Does anyone have specific
> airport recommendations
> for the best overall experience? I would be
> tying-down or hangaring the
> plane overnight.
>
> The airports closest to my destination that I'm
> considering are:
>
> 1. GTU - Georgetown: Looks good, but seems really
> too busy whenever I'm
> driving my car nearby.
> 2. 5R3 - Lago Vista / Rusty Allen: Looks like a
> nice quiet airport,
> but maybe there are some unknown gotchas?
> 3. 3R9 - Lakeway: I understand they can be cranky
> with fees and
> operating hour restrictions?
>
> Thanks for any advice.
>
> Mike Lawson
> RV-8A 81825 - fuselage on jig (still)
>
>
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
> Web Forums!
>
>
>
>
>
Darrell Reiley
RV7A QB Slider "Reiley Rocket"
N622DR Reserved
N469RV Reserved
CenTex_RV_Aircraft-owner@yahoogroups.com
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| Subject: | Starter: BNC or SkyTec |
I have a very poor customer service problem going with Sky-Tec
right now and would definitely go with B&C. If you want the details
contact me off list or phone. 512-914-6028.
If you want a Sky-Tec type starter contact Air-Tec and get the
same thing at half the price.
www.airtecinc.us
Dick Dial
N89DD
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 2:39 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Starter: BNC or SkyTec
Recommend B&C. SkyTec never worked for me.
Bob
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| Subject: | Starter: BNC or SkyTec |
Thanks for all the ideas. I was leaning toward BNC and the comments
were enough to tip me over....a few dollars more, but seems to be
another example of you-get-what-you-pay-for.
Chuck Jensen
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of J. R. Dial
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 3:44 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Starter: BNC or SkyTec
I have a very poor customer service problem going with Sky-Tec
right now and would definitely go with B&C. If you want the details
contact me off list or phone. 512-914-6028.
If you want a Sky-Tec type starter contact Air-Tec and get the
same thing at half the price.
www.airtecinc.us
Dick Dial
N89DD
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 2:39 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Starter: BNC or SkyTec
Recommend B&C. SkyTec never worked for me.
Bob
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| Subject: | Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec |
BTW: The company is called B & C, not BNC. I have never heard a
complaint against them, but not so with SkyTec (which may have dealt
with their issues by now...).
----- Original Message -----
From: Chuck Jensen
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 1:58 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Starter: BNC or SkyTec
Thanks for all the ideas. I was leaning toward BNC and the comments
were enough to tip me over....a few dollars more, but seems to be
another example of you-get-what-you-pay-for.
Chuck Jensen
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of J. R. Dial
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 3:44 PM
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV-List: Starter: BNC or SkyTec
I have a very poor customer service problem going with Sky-Tec
right now and would definitely go with B&C. If you want the details
contact me off list or phone. 512-914-6028.
If you want a Sky-Tec type starter contact Air-Tec and get the
same thing at half the price.
www.airtecinc.us
Dick Dial
N89DD
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 2:39 PM
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV-List: Starter: BNC or SkyTec
Recommend B&C. SkyTec never worked for me.
Bob
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| Subject: | Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec |
My vote is for SkyTec. I had a problem a few years ago with my starter. Rich,
the manager, FedEx'd me a new starter the next day - at his expense!!!! And
I had no idea how old my starter was as it was on my engine when I bought it.
Service like that gets my vote for life. I won't ever look anywhere else, even
if I saved weight. New starter is lighter and more reliable than any starter
I've ever had in 25 years!
SkyTec - you can't go wrong!
Matt
Chuck Jensen <cjensen@dts9000.com> wrote:
What's the current concensus on starters? BNC or SkyTec HTI (hy torque
in-line, or some such)? I'm not interested in the PM Skytec but was
trying to choose between the non-PM (permanent magnet) starters for an
IO-540?
Chuck Jensen
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| Subject: | Starter: BNC or SkyTec |
Chuck, don't know but I been told(?) that some of the B&C units leave no
clearance to the cowl on some applications. Just told you all I know.
Bill S
7a ark
engine
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Jensen
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 2:58 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Starter: BNC or SkyTec
Thanks for all the ideas. I was leaning toward BNC and the comments were
enough to tip me over....a few dollars more, but seems to be another example
of you-get-what-you-pay-for.
Chuck Jensen
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of J. R. Dial
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 3:44 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Starter: BNC or SkyTec
I have a very poor customer service problem going with Sky-Tec right
now and would definitely go with B&C. If you want the details contact me off
list or phone. 512-914-6028.
If you want a Sky-Tec type starter contact Air-Tec and get the same
thing at half the price.
www.airtecinc.us
Dick Dial
N89DD
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 2:39 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Starter: BNC or SkyTec
Recommend B&C. SkyTec never worked for me.
Bob
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| Subject: | Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec |
I've been using my Sky-Tec inline for 3 hrs now and it is working great ;-)
Surfing the web with my laptop from Hopkinsville, KY
Visit my RV7A website: http://webpages.charter.net/bobbyhester/FinishingUpPg3.htm
Bill Schlatterer wrote:
>
>Chuck, don't know but I been told(?) that some of the B&C units leave no
>clearance to the cowl on some applications. Just told you all I know.
>
>Bill S
>7a ark
>engine
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Jensen
>Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 2:58 PM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RV-List: Starter: BNC or SkyTec
>
>
>Thanks for all the ideas. I was leaning toward BNC and the comments were
>enough to tip me over....a few dollars more, but seems to be another example
>of you-get-what-you-pay-for.
>
>Chuck Jensen
>Do Not Archive
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of J. R. Dial
>Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 3:44 PM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RV-List: Starter: BNC or SkyTec
>
>
>
> I have a very poor customer service problem going with Sky-Tec right
>now and would definitely go with B&C. If you want the details contact me off
>list or phone. 512-914-6028.
> If you want a Sky-Tec type starter contact Air-Tec and get the same
>thing at half the price.
> www.airtecinc.us
> Dick Dial
> N89DD
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob
>Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 2:39 PM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RV-List: Starter: BNC or SkyTec
>
>
>Recommend B&C. SkyTec never worked for me.
>
>Bob
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec |
just a note ...
i have had complete B n C electrical systems on 3 different airplanes. they
all have been trouble free.
the support bill bainbridge provides is outstanding.
i vote for B n C
mike
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| Subject: | Austin-area airport recommendations? |
Try Spicewood, 88R. It is close to both Lakeway and Lago Vista. Also,
there are several RV's there. The airport is daylight use only though.
Bret Smith
RV-9A (91314)
Mineral Bluff, GA
www.FlightInnovations.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lawson, Michael
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 2:26 PM
Subject: RV-List: Austin-area airport recommendations?
In the future, I may be doing some long cross-country flights to the north
Austin area. Does anyone have specific airport recommendations for the best
overall experience? I would be tying-down or hangaring the plane overnight.
The airports closest to my destination that I'm considering are:
1. GTU - Georgetown: Looks good, but seems really too busy whenever I'm
driving my car nearby.
2. 5R3 - Lago Vista / Rusty Allen: Looks like a nice quiet airport, but
maybe there are some unknown gotchas?
3. 3R9 - Lakeway: I understand they can be cranky with fees and operating
hour restrictions?
Thanks for any advice.
Mike Lawson
RV-8A 81825 - fuselage on jig (still)
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| Subject: | Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec |
Will the B&C inline clear the FAB air duct on my RV-7A with 200 HP injected
angle valve engine?
I have the Skytec PM starter now and it has workied fine for over 2 years now
except for a whump sometimes. You guys got me worried.
Dan Hopper
RV-7A
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| Subject: | Starter: BNC or SkyTec |
I have been using SkyTec PM starter for the past 10 years. Replaced one
solenoid in that time. Service with them has been great. 1,980.4 hobbs
hours when I put the airplane away on Saturday.
I have a B & C alternator and voltage regulator. Service has been
excellent.
Both SkyTec and B & C make good starters. You should get good service from
both.
An old wise man once told me "You only get what you pay for."
IMHO. You will not go wrong with either of the two starters on any of the
Lycoming engines that RVs use.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,980 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
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