RV-List Digest Archive

Mon 02/26/07


Total Messages Posted: 15



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:43 AM - Re: Glass for IFR (Russell Daves)
     2. 05:15 AM - Re: Glass for IFR (rtitsworth)
     3. 05:18 AM - Re: Glass for IFR (Bruce Gray)
     4. 06:20 AM - Glass for IFR (James H Nelson)
     5. 06:51 AM - Re: Glass for IFR (Bruce Gray)
     6. 10:07 AM - Re: Glass for IFR  (Brian Meyette)
     7. 10:08 AM - Re: Glass for IFR (Brian Meyette)
     8. 10:20 AM - OFF TOPIC HELP (Bill VonDane)
     9. 11:42 AM - Re: RV-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 02/23/07 (Nick Gaglia)
    10. 11:42 AM - Re: RV-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 02/23/07 (Nick Gaglia)
    11. 11:42 AM - Re: low oil temps (HCRV6@comcast.net)
    12. 12:53 PM - Re: Nose Gear Intersection Leg Fairing  (Rick Galati)
    13. 01:31 PM - Re: I flew today! (Charles Rowbotham)
    14. 06:46 PM - cooling fan (Lance Sorensen)
    15. 08:57 PM - Outstanding RV-3A for sale... (Jack Lockamy)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:43:17 AM PST US
    From: "Russell Daves" <dav1111@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Glass for IFR
    I have an all glass IFR panel in my RV-10 and love it. You can see it at: http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=panelinstalled1bl4.jpg It is a three screen Grand Rapids system with weather overlay and I love it. The center glass screen is a sport model with it's own AHRS for backup. As far as backup batteries as long as you can identify a battery or alternator failure they are somewhat unnecessary. The amount of amps drawn by a single EFIS system and an autopilot is so small that you can do an IFR let down on your main battery with little problems. I went ahead and put an SD-8 backup on my engine as a backup to the alternator just to be on the safe side however. Best regards, Russ Daves N710RV - Flying RV-10 N65RV - RV-6A sold


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    Time: 05:15:40 AM PST US
    From: "rtitsworth" <rtitsworth@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Glass for IFR
    A thought/scenario. If you had some sort of electrical fire (smoke, serious smell, etc), and were unsure of the source, and wanted to shutdown the alternator(s) and master(s), what would be left? Seems that having a small, local, dedicated stby battery attached to an attitude instrument would be helpful (necessary) in IMC - especially if you plan on flying high enough that it takes several minutes (or longer) to descent to safety. Assuming of course that stby instrument is not the original smoke problem. My .02 Rick _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Russell Daves . As far as backup batteries as long as you can identify a battery or alternator failure they are somewhat unnecessary. The amount of amps drawn by a single EFIS system and an autopilot is so small that you can do an IFR let down on your main battery with little problems.


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    Time: 05:18:00 AM PST US
    From: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
    Subject: Glass for IFR
    Nice panel. I have a stupid question, if you're flying along in solid IMC and all of a sudden one of your EFIS says you're turning right and the other says you're turning left, on which one do you bet your life? Bruce www.glasair.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Russell Daves Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 6:40 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Glass for IFR I have an all glass IFR panel in my RV-10 and love it. You can see it at: http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=panelinstalled1bl4.jpg It is a three screen Grand Rapids system with weather overlay and I love it. The center glass screen is a sport model with it's own AHRS for backup. As far as backup batteries as long as you can identify a battery or alternator failure they are somewhat unnecessary. The amount of amps drawn by a single EFIS system and an autopilot is so small that you can do an IFR let down on your main battery with little problems. I went ahead and put an SD-8 backup on my engine as a backup to the alternator just to be on the safe side however. Best regards, Russ Daves N710RV - Flying RV-10 N65RV - RV-6A sold


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    Time: 06:20:22 AM PST US
    Subject: Glass for IFR
    From: James H Nelson <rv9jim@juno.com>
    Hi Bruce, That is what the turn coordinator / wing leveler from TT is for! :-))) Jim


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    Time: 06:51:52 AM PST US
    From: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
    Subject: Glass for IFR
    OK, I looked again at your panel picture and darn, I just can't see that TT TC. Bruce www.glasair.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James H Nelson Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 9:15 AM Subject: RV-List: Glass for IFR Hi Bruce, That is what the turn coordinator / wing leveler from TT is for! :-))) Jim


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    Time: 10:07:46 AM PST US
    From: "Brian Meyette" <brianpublic2@starband.net>
    Subject: Glass for IFR
    I went with multiple brands, on the idea that any hardware or software problems with one brand would not show up in the second brand. I chose Blue Mountain as primary and Grand Rapids as secondary. I also later ended up getting a Dynon as third, instead of a turn coordinator. Whether this turns out to be better than, say, a dual screen, dual AHRS GRT with TruTrak A/P remains to be discovered. See avionics pages for details brian http://brian76.mystarband.net/RV-7Ahome.htm -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of JOHN COLLIER Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 6:17 AM Subject: RV-List: Glass for IFR Guys and Gals, I'm starting to plan out my avionics. I'm leaning toward an all glass panel - IFR legal. I'm considering a couple of Dynon's with backup batteries. I've brainstormed (to the best of my abilities) all the possible ways I could get myself into trouble. With backup batteries in each dynon I'm "relatively" safe from a total electrical failure. Also, if I lose one EFIS...I'll switch to the other dynon for flight data. Looking for some advice and recommendations... what I'm I overlooking or not considering? Thanks John _________________________________________________________________ Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more....then map the best route! http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag1&FORM=MGAC01 -- 3:16 PM -- 3:16 PM


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    Time: 10:08:40 AM PST US
    From: "Brian Meyette" <brianpublic2@starband.net>
    Subject: Glass for IFR
    This thought, as well as the previous one from Rick Gray, are, IMHO, a good reason for a third display. My thinking was that by not buying a turn coordinator, 1/2 of a Dynon is already paid for. Its small and self-contained. And it has its own internal battery, so you can shut down all else, and it will still work. brian -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of rtitsworth Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 8:14 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: Glass for IFR A thought/scenario If you had some sort of electrical fire (smoke, serious smell, etc), and were unsure of the source, and wanted to shutdown the alternator(s) and master(s), what would be left? Seems that having a small, local, dedicated stby battery attached to an attitude instrument would be helpful (necessary) in IMC especially if you plan on flying high enough that it takes several minutes (or longer) to descent to safety. Assuming of course that stby instrument is not the original smoke problem. My .02 Rick _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Russell Daves As far as backup batteries as long as you can identify a battery or alternator failure they are somewhat unnecessary. The amount of amps drawn by a single EFIS system and an autopilot is so small that you can do an IFR let down on your main battery with little problems. -- 3:16 PM


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    Time: 10:20:54 AM PST US
    From: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
    Subject: OFF TOPIC HELP
    Do we have any PHP / MYSQL experts on here? I could use some help... Thanks... -Bill VonDane bill@vondane.com do not archive


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    Time: 11:42:35 AM PST US
    From: Nick Gaglia <ngaglia@calpine.com>
    Subject: RE: RV-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 02/23/07
    I purchased a Superior XP 360, with fuel injection, front induction Airflow Performance. Duel LightSpeed electronic ignition. It came with a Light weight Skytec, PM. Because of all the problems with kick back and the battle between Skytec and Light Speed, I call Skytec returned my Light weight PM for the Series Wound, paid the difference. I also had the FAB inlet induction. Result it did not fit. I had to completely rebuild the FAB to make it fit. A lot of work but looks good now. Have not start-engine yet. Regards Nick RV-8 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV-List Digest Server Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 11:58 PM Subject: RV-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 02/23/07 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete RV-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the RV-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 07-02-23&Archive=RV Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 2007-02-23&Archive=RV =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 02/23/07: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:57 AM - Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (shirleyh) 2. 03:38 AM - Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (Kevin Horton) 3. 06:03 AM - Re: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 4. 07:08 AM - Re: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (Hopperdhh@aol.com) 5. 07:54 AM - Re: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (J. R. Dial) 6. 07:57 AM - Re: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (J. R. Dial) 7. 08:02 AM - Re: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 8. 09:50 AM - Re: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (Chuck Jensen) 9. 11:55 AM - Re: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (Hopperdhh@aol.com) 10. 07:02 PM - Weather? for- i39, Richmond Madison Flyin Feb. 24th. is ON (Eric Parlow) 11. 09:28 PM - Re: Austin-area airport recommendations? (Paul Besing) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:57:44 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec From: "shirleyh" <shirleyh@oceanbroadband.net> My Superior O360 was delivered with a Skytech lightweight starter. At around 10 hours of operation, I noticed chipped teeth on the ring gear. A couple of starts later it jammed completely. Replaced the ring gear, had engineer check everything... next two starts chipped the new ring gear. Installed borrowed B&C and returned original starter to Skytech. Now over 50 hours, and 7 months later, no contact from Skytech and the old B&C has never missed a beat. YMMV Shirley in Perth, Western Australia RV6 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p'824#96824 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:38:18 AM PST US From: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: Starter: BNC or SkyTec On 22 Feb 2007, at 21:16, Hopperdhh@aol.com wrote: > Will the B&C inline clear the FAB air duct on my RV-7A with 200 HP > injected angle valve engine? > The B&C starter does not clear the induction air duct for the front mounted servo. It may be possible modify the fibreglas duct to fit around the B&C starter. Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit) Ottawa, Canada http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:03:43 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net> Everyone might want to keep in mind that Chuck was asking for a comparison of the series wound starters NOT the PM style. While a lot of people have had problems with the PM Skytec's, I don't know of anyone that has had a problem with the SW. Michael Do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:08:18 AM PST US From: Hopperdhh@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec Michael, That's true. But I have a PM Skytec and would like to know if I can directly replace it with one of the wound rotor starters. I have already been told in this thread that the B&C will not fit my front servo fuel injected IO-360 FAB induction box. Now the question is, will the Skytec wound rotor Inline starter fit the induction box without modification? Sorry if this is too far off topic, Chuck. You know there are no simple answers! Thanks, Dan Hopper RV-7A -- Flying about 200 hrs now In a message dated 2/23/2007 9:05:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, rvbuilder@sausen.net writes: <rvbuilder@sausen.net> Everyone might want to keep in mind that Chuck was asking for a comparison of the series wound starters NOT the PM style. While a lot of people have had problems with the PM Skytec's, I don't know of anyone that has had a problem with the SW. Michael Do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:54:13 AM PST US From: "J. R. Dial" <jrdial@hal-pc.org> Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec If I were you I would call B&C and ask them. They are an excellent company with a good product and good service. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hopperdhh@aol.com Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 9:07 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec Michael, That's true. But I have a PM Skytec and would like to know if I can directly replace it with one of the wound rotor starters. I have already been told in this thread that the B&C will not fit my front servo fuel injected IO-360 FAB induction box. Now the question is, will the Skytec wound rotor Inline starter fit the induction box without modification? Sorry if this is too far off topic, Chuck. You know there are no simple answers! Thanks, Dan Hopper RV-7A -- Flying about 200 hrs now In a message dated 2/23/2007 9:05:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, rvbuilder@sausen.net writes: <rvbuilder@sausen.net> Everyone might want to keep in mind that Chuck was asking for a comparison of the series wound starters NOT the PM style. While a lot of people have had problems with the PM Skytec's, I don't know of anyone that has had a problem with the SW. Michael Do not archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:57:03 AM PST US From: "J. R. Dial" <jrdial@hal-pc.org> Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec I have and they would not stand behind the product so I bought and Air-Tec that works just fine. Dick DO NOT ARCHIVE -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen) Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 8:03 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec <rvbuilder@sausen.net> Everyone might want to keep in mind that Chuck was asking for a comparison of the series wound starters NOT the PM style. While a lot of people have had problems with the PM Skytec's, I don't know of anyone that has had a problem with the SW. Michael Do not archive ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:02:07 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net> Where you located? Maybe someone around you that has a SW they haven't installed yet can come by and help you find out. I said earlier that I don't know of anyone that has had a problem with the Skytec NL but I would be interested in hearing if someone has. Michael Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hopperdhh@aol.com Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 9:07 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec Michael, That's true. But I have a PM Skytec and would like to know if I can directly replace it with one of the wound rotor starters. I have already been told in this thread that the B&C will not fit my front servo fuel injected IO-360 FAB induction box. Now the question is, will the Skytec wound rotor Inline starter fit the induction box without modification? Sorry if this is too far off topic, Chuck. You know there are no simple answers! Thanks, Dan Hopper RV-7A -- Flying about 200 hrs now In a message dated 2/23/2007 9:05:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, rvbuilder@sausen.net writes: <rvbuilder@sausen.net> Everyone might want to keep in mind that Chuck was asking for a comparison of the series wound starters NOT the PM style. While a lot of people have had problems with the PM Skytec's, I don't know of anyone that has had a problem with the SW. Michael Do not archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:50:06 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec From: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com> I've been watching the comments, though I'm looking at my decision in the rear view mirror. It seems the SkyTec is a good new product and the B&C is a good old product. Both things being (almost) equal, I bought a B&C, though I'm sure either would have done equally well. I'll be glad to get rid of the Lamar PM starter for all the reasons discussed--not a Lamar problem as much a PM problem. In a Velo, with the battery in the tippy-nose and the engine in the...well I guess there is no tail---but way back there---there's little point in having the big inrush for a PM starter running through a long wire to spin the 540. Fortunately, there are no clearance problems so I'm hoping I'm good to go. Thanks though, for the feed back by all. Chuck Jensen Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hopperdhh@aol.com Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 10:07 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec Michael, That's true. But I have a PM Skytec and would like to know if I can directly replace it with one of the wound rotor starters. I have already been told in this thread that the B&C will not fit my front servo fuel injected IO-360 FAB induction box. Now the question is, will the Skytec wound rotor Inline starter fit the induction box without modification? Sorry if this is too far off topic, Chuck. You know there are no simple answers! Thanks, Dan Hopper RV-7A -- Flying about 200 hrs now In a message dated 2/23/2007 9:05:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, rvbuilder@sausen.net writes: <rvbuilder@sausen.net> Everyone might want to keep in mind that Chuck was asking for a comparison of the series wound starters NOT the PM style. While a lot of people have had problems with the PM Skytec's, I don't know of anyone that has had a problem with the SW. Michael Do not archive ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:55:40 AM PST US From: Hopperdhh@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec Michael, I live in North Central Indiana near Kokomo. My airplane is at 8I3 -- Kokomo Glenndale. I am not ready to change starters yet anyway, so no rush. Dan In a message dated 2/23/2007 11:03:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, rvbuilder@sausen.net writes: <rvbuilder@sausen.net> Where you located? Maybe someone around you that has a SW they haven't installed yet can come by and help you find out. I said earlier that I don't know of anyone that has had a problem with the Skytec NL but I would be interested in hearing if someone has. Michael Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hopperdhh@aol.com Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 9:07 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec Michael, That's true. But I have a PM Skytec and would like to know if I can directly replace it with one of the wound rotor starters. I have already been told in this thread that the B&C will not fit my front servo fuel injected IO-360 FAB induction box. Now the question is, will the Skytec wound rotor Inline starter fit the induction box without modification? Sorry if this is too far off topic, Chuck. You know there are no simple answers! Thanks, Dan Hopper RV-7A -- Flying about 200 hrs now ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:02:43 PM PST US From: "Eric Parlow" <ericparlow@hotmail.com> Subject: RV-List: Weather? for- i39, Richmond Madison Flyin Feb. 24th. is ON What's the weather look like there? Who's going? Hasn't been much e-traffic this on The Kickoff ............... Last 3 years were great! ERic-- RV-10 N104EP ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:28:42 PM PST US From: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: Austin-area airport recommendations? I regularly fly out of GTU. It's really not that busy. Yes, they are getting a control tower, but everyone who flies there are pretty safe. A flight school, and some charter planes now and then. Gas prices are ok, no food on the field. No tie down fees. Hangars are a premium there, but I never really looked into an of the RV's that may be in the area. Otherwise, if it's near your destination, it's a good airport. Crossing runways, all in great condition, etc. Paul Besing Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com> wrote: Michael, I would use the Taylor Airport. Close in to North Austin and Round Rock area, less traffic auto and plane wise, RV's are on the field, small town atmosphere, very... very good AVgas fuel prices and Excellent BBQ!! Darrell --- "Lawson, Michael" wrote: > > > > In the future, I may be doing some long > cross-country flights to the > north Austin area. Does anyone have specific > airport recommendations > for the best overall experience? I would be > tying-down or hangaring the > plane overnight. > > The airports closest to my destination that I'm > considering are: > > 1. GTU - Georgetown: Looks good, but seems really > too busy whenever I'm > driving my car nearby. > 2. 5R3 - Lago Vista / Rusty Allen: Looks like a > nice quiet airport, > but maybe there are some unknown gotchas? > 3. 3R9 - Lakeway: I understand they can be cranky > with fees and > operating hour restrictions? > > Thanks for any advice. > > Mike Lawson > RV-8A 81825 - fuselage on jig (still) > > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > > Web Forums! > > > > > Darrell Reiley RV7A QB Slider "Reiley Rocket" N622DR Reserved N469RV Reserved CenTex_RV_Aircraft-owner@yahoogroups.com --------------------------------- Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends.


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    Time: 11:42:36 AM PST US
    From: Nick Gaglia <ngaglia@calpine.com>
    Subject: RE: RV-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 02/23/07
    I purchased a Superior XP 360, with fuel injection, front induction Airflow Performance. Duel LightSpeed electronic ignition. It came with a Light weight Skytec, PM. Because of all the problems with kick back and the battle between Skytec and Light Speed, I call Skytec returned my Light weight PM for the Series Wound, paid the difference. I also had the FAB inlet induction. Result it did not fit. I had to completely rebuild the FAB to make it fit. A lot of work but looks good now. Have not start-engine yet. Regards Nick RV-8 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV-List Digest Server Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 11:58 PM Subject: RV-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 02/23/07 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete RV-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the RV-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 07-02-23&Archive=RV Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 2007-02-23&Archive=RV =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 02/23/07: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:57 AM - Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (shirleyh) 2. 03:38 AM - Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (Kevin Horton) 3. 06:03 AM - Re: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 4. 07:08 AM - Re: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (Hopperdhh@aol.com) 5. 07:54 AM - Re: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (J. R. Dial) 6. 07:57 AM - Re: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (J. R. Dial) 7. 08:02 AM - Re: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 8. 09:50 AM - Re: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (Chuck Jensen) 9. 11:55 AM - Re: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec (Hopperdhh@aol.com) 10. 07:02 PM - Weather? for- i39, Richmond Madison Flyin Feb. 24th. is ON (Eric Parlow) 11. 09:28 PM - Re: Austin-area airport recommendations? (Paul Besing) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:57:44 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec From: "shirleyh" <shirleyh@oceanbroadband.net> My Superior O360 was delivered with a Skytech lightweight starter. At around 10 hours of operation, I noticed chipped teeth on the ring gear. A couple of starts later it jammed completely. Replaced the ring gear, had engineer check everything... next two starts chipped the new ring gear. Installed borrowed B&C and returned original starter to Skytech. Now over 50 hours, and 7 months later, no contact from Skytech and the old B&C has never missed a beat. YMMV Shirley in Perth, Western Australia RV6 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p'824#96824 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:38:18 AM PST US From: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: Starter: BNC or SkyTec On 22 Feb 2007, at 21:16, Hopperdhh@aol.com wrote: > Will the B&C inline clear the FAB air duct on my RV-7A with 200 HP > injected angle valve engine? > The B&C starter does not clear the induction air duct for the front mounted servo. It may be possible modify the fibreglas duct to fit around the B&C starter. Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit) Ottawa, Canada http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:03:43 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net> Everyone might want to keep in mind that Chuck was asking for a comparison of the series wound starters NOT the PM style. While a lot of people have had problems with the PM Skytec's, I don't know of anyone that has had a problem with the SW. Michael Do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:08:18 AM PST US From: Hopperdhh@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec Michael, That's true. But I have a PM Skytec and would like to know if I can directly replace it with one of the wound rotor starters. I have already been told in this thread that the B&C will not fit my front servo fuel injected IO-360 FAB induction box. Now the question is, will the Skytec wound rotor Inline starter fit the induction box without modification? Sorry if this is too far off topic, Chuck. You know there are no simple answers! Thanks, Dan Hopper RV-7A -- Flying about 200 hrs now In a message dated 2/23/2007 9:05:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, rvbuilder@sausen.net writes: <rvbuilder@sausen.net> Everyone might want to keep in mind that Chuck was asking for a comparison of the series wound starters NOT the PM style. While a lot of people have had problems with the PM Skytec's, I don't know of anyone that has had a problem with the SW. Michael Do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:54:13 AM PST US From: "J. R. Dial" <jrdial@hal-pc.org> Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec If I were you I would call B&C and ask them. They are an excellent company with a good product and good service. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hopperdhh@aol.com Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 9:07 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec Michael, That's true. But I have a PM Skytec and would like to know if I can directly replace it with one of the wound rotor starters. I have already been told in this thread that the B&C will not fit my front servo fuel injected IO-360 FAB induction box. Now the question is, will the Skytec wound rotor Inline starter fit the induction box without modification? Sorry if this is too far off topic, Chuck. You know there are no simple answers! Thanks, Dan Hopper RV-7A -- Flying about 200 hrs now In a message dated 2/23/2007 9:05:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, rvbuilder@sausen.net writes: <rvbuilder@sausen.net> Everyone might want to keep in mind that Chuck was asking for a comparison of the series wound starters NOT the PM style. While a lot of people have had problems with the PM Skytec's, I don't know of anyone that has had a problem with the SW. Michael Do not archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:57:03 AM PST US From: "J. R. Dial" <jrdial@hal-pc.org> Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec I have and they would not stand behind the product so I bought and Air-Tec that works just fine. Dick DO NOT ARCHIVE -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen) Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 8:03 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec <rvbuilder@sausen.net> Everyone might want to keep in mind that Chuck was asking for a comparison of the series wound starters NOT the PM style. While a lot of people have had problems with the PM Skytec's, I don't know of anyone that has had a problem with the SW. Michael Do not archive ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:02:07 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net> Where you located? Maybe someone around you that has a SW they haven't installed yet can come by and help you find out. I said earlier that I don't know of anyone that has had a problem with the Skytec NL but I would be interested in hearing if someone has. Michael Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hopperdhh@aol.com Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 9:07 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec Michael, That's true. But I have a PM Skytec and would like to know if I can directly replace it with one of the wound rotor starters. I have already been told in this thread that the B&C will not fit my front servo fuel injected IO-360 FAB induction box. Now the question is, will the Skytec wound rotor Inline starter fit the induction box without modification? Sorry if this is too far off topic, Chuck. You know there are no simple answers! Thanks, Dan Hopper RV-7A -- Flying about 200 hrs now In a message dated 2/23/2007 9:05:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, rvbuilder@sausen.net writes: <rvbuilder@sausen.net> Everyone might want to keep in mind that Chuck was asking for a comparison of the series wound starters NOT the PM style. While a lot of people have had problems with the PM Skytec's, I don't know of anyone that has had a problem with the SW. Michael Do not archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:50:06 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec From: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com> I've been watching the comments, though I'm looking at my decision in the rear view mirror. It seems the SkyTec is a good new product and the B&C is a good old product. Both things being (almost) equal, I bought a B&C, though I'm sure either would have done equally well. I'll be glad to get rid of the Lamar PM starter for all the reasons discussed--not a Lamar problem as much a PM problem. In a Velo, with the battery in the tippy-nose and the engine in the...well I guess there is no tail---but way back there---there's little point in having the big inrush for a PM starter running through a long wire to spin the 540. Fortunately, there are no clearance problems so I'm hoping I'm good to go. Thanks though, for the feed back by all. Chuck Jensen Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hopperdhh@aol.com Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 10:07 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec Michael, That's true. But I have a PM Skytec and would like to know if I can directly replace it with one of the wound rotor starters. I have already been told in this thread that the B&C will not fit my front servo fuel injected IO-360 FAB induction box. Now the question is, will the Skytec wound rotor Inline starter fit the induction box without modification? Sorry if this is too far off topic, Chuck. You know there are no simple answers! Thanks, Dan Hopper RV-7A -- Flying about 200 hrs now In a message dated 2/23/2007 9:05:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, rvbuilder@sausen.net writes: <rvbuilder@sausen.net> Everyone might want to keep in mind that Chuck was asking for a comparison of the series wound starters NOT the PM style. While a lot of people have had problems with the PM Skytec's, I don't know of anyone that has had a problem with the SW. Michael Do not archive ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:55:40 AM PST US From: Hopperdhh@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec Michael, I live in North Central Indiana near Kokomo. My airplane is at 8I3 -- Kokomo Glenndale. I am not ready to change starters yet anyway, so no rush. Dan In a message dated 2/23/2007 11:03:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, rvbuilder@sausen.net writes: <rvbuilder@sausen.net> Where you located? Maybe someone around you that has a SW they haven't installed yet can come by and help you find out. I said earlier that I don't know of anyone that has had a problem with the Skytec NL but I would be interested in hearing if someone has. Michael Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hopperdhh@aol.com Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 9:07 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Starter: BNC or SkyTec Michael, That's true. But I have a PM Skytec and would like to know if I can directly replace it with one of the wound rotor starters. I have already been told in this thread that the B&C will not fit my front servo fuel injected IO-360 FAB induction box. Now the question is, will the Skytec wound rotor Inline starter fit the induction box without modification? Sorry if this is too far off topic, Chuck. You know there are no simple answers! Thanks, Dan Hopper RV-7A -- Flying about 200 hrs now ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:02:43 PM PST US From: "Eric Parlow" <ericparlow@hotmail.com> Subject: RV-List: Weather? for- i39, Richmond Madison Flyin Feb. 24th. is ON What's the weather look like there? Who's going? Hasn't been much e-traffic this on The Kickoff ............... Last 3 years were great! ERic-- RV-10 N104EP ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:28:42 PM PST US From: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: Austin-area airport recommendations? I regularly fly out of GTU. It's really not that busy. Yes, they are getting a control tower, but everyone who flies there are pretty safe. A flight school, and some charter planes now and then. Gas prices are ok, no food on the field. No tie down fees. Hangars are a premium there, but I never really looked into an of the RV's that may be in the area. Otherwise, if it's near your destination, it's a good airport. Crossing runways, all in great condition, etc. Paul Besing Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com> wrote: Michael, I would use the Taylor Airport. Close in to North Austin and Round Rock area, less traffic auto and plane wise, RV's are on the field, small town atmosphere, very... very good AVgas fuel prices and Excellent BBQ!! Darrell --- "Lawson, Michael" wrote: > > > > In the future, I may be doing some long > cross-country flights to the > north Austin area. Does anyone have specific > airport recommendations > for the best overall experience? I would be > tying-down or hangaring the > plane overnight. > > The airports closest to my destination that I'm > considering are: > > 1. GTU - Georgetown: Looks good, but seems really > too busy whenever I'm > driving my car nearby. > 2. 5R3 - Lago Vista / Rusty Allen: Looks like a > nice quiet airport, > but maybe there are some unknown gotchas? > 3. 3R9 - Lakeway: I understand they can be cranky > with fees and > operating hour restrictions? > > Thanks for any advice. > > Mike Lawson > RV-8A 81825 - fuselage on jig (still) > > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > > Web Forums! > > > > > Darrell Reiley RV7A QB Slider "Reiley Rocket" N622DR Reserved N469RV Reserved CenTex_RV_Aircraft-owner@yahoogroups.com --------------------------------- Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends.


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    Time: 11:42:36 AM PST US
    From: HCRV6@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: low oil temps


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    Time: 12:53:23 PM PST US
    From: Rick Galati <rick6a@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Nose Gear Intersection Leg Fairing
    My high quality Bob Snedaker (Fairings-etc.) upper nose gear intersection fairing is held in place by 2 #6 screws. The nutplates are attached to bits of aluminum attached to the lower cowl. The fairing sits in a recess of built-up filler producing a smooth transition with the lower cowl. To remove the lower cowl, I just remove the 2 screws holding the fairing in place and let the fairing slide down and out of the way on the leg fairing. http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9435/uppernosegearlegfairingxc6.jpg Rick Galati RV-6A "Darla"


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    Time: 01:31:05 PM PST US
    From: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
    Subject: I flew today!
    Bobby, CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !! Chuck & Dave Rowbotham RV-8A >From: Bobby Hester <bobbyhester@charter.net> >To: RV-List <rv-list@matronics.com> >Subject: RV-List: I flew today! >Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 21:58:42 -0600 > >Well I finally did it! About 3pm today I got to fly my plane. It was great, >it flew great, it performed great and everything seemed to work fine the >first flight. _________________________________________________________________ Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more.then map the best route! http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag1&FORM=MGAC01


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    Time: 06:46:16 PM PST US
    From: Lance Sorensen <lancej@charter.net>
    Subject: cooling fan
    I have a new Ameri-King 5 port avionics cooling fan for sale. I paid $225 and will sell for $125. I decided not to use it because I have only one radio in my RV9. Lance Sorensen Selah, WA


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    Subject: Outstanding RV-3A for sale...
    Click on link below for specs, photos and more... www.jacklockamy.com/RV3A_N633TB_For_Sale.html




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