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1. 01:18 AM - Re: RV3B For Sale (RAS)
2. 07:22 AM - Autopilot wing rocking (Grenwis@aol.com)
3. 10:14 AM - Re: Autopilot wing rocking (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
4. 10:24 AM - RV6/6A Fuel Tank Attachment (John Fasching)
5. 11:50 AM - Re: RV6/6A Fuel Tank Attachment (Steve Allison)
6. 01:24 PM - Re: RV6/6A Fuel Tank Attachment (John Fasching)
7. 03:56 PM - Re: RV6/6A Fuel Tank Attachment (Ralph E. Capen)
8. 04:36 PM - Re: RV6/6A Fuel Tank Attachment (John Fasching)
9. 04:47 PM - Re: RV6/6A Fuel Tank Attachment (Steve Allison)
10. 05:05 PM - Langley Fly-in June 23 (Tedd McHenry)
11. 05:13 PM - Full face mask for painting (David Burton)
12. 06:47 PM - Re: Langley Fly-in June 23 (ronlee@pcisys.net)
13. 07:22 PM - Re: Full face mask for painting (Vanremog@aol.com)
14. 08:21 PM - Re: RV6/6A Fuel Tank Attachment (Gerald Richardson)
15. 08:35 PM - Re: Glass for IFR (B25Flyer)
16. 09:42 PM - Re: Re: Glass for IFR (Greg Williams)
17. 11:22 PM - Re: Langley Fly-in June 23 (Terry Watson)
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| Subject: | Re: RV3B For Sale |
Hi Rick, what is the empty weight of your Rv3?
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Fogerson
To: rv3-list@matronics.com ; RV List
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 3:10 AM
Subject: RV-List: RV3B For Sale
789RV is for sale. I have $52K and 6700 hours invested and have
reduced the price to $43K. Details and pictures can be seen at
www.barnstormers.com.
Thanks for your time, Rick Fogerson.
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| Subject: | Autopilot wing rocking |
I've had the wing rocking thing on my autopilot since I got it, but I found
for me it is related to aileron trim. I have an external trim tab on the
outboard end of my left aileron. If I turn on the autopilot and the wings start
rocking, I can adjust the trim to one side (right, I think) and things calm
down. I'm sure that is slightly more drag, but I can live with it.
Rick Grenwis
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| Subject: | Re: Autopilot wing rocking |
This wing rocking problem is covered under "SETTING SYSTEM GAIN" in the
Navaid manual.
Quoting from my manual, page 14:
"The autopilot should fly the airplane in a manner more or less similar to
that of human pilots. If the stick action feels too jittery for the weather
conditions, or if the airplane is continually hunting (oscillating) back and
forth like a snake trying to follow a straight line, the system gain is probably
set too high for your aircraft.
"Remembering that the trimpots should not be forced beyond their 9 o'clock
and 3 o'clock stops, you lower system gain by turning the SPAN trimpot
counterclockwise. Decrease the gain (turn SPAN trimpot counterclockwise) until
the
stick calms down, then increase it to the point where the stick becomes jittery
again. With your airplane operating at its usual cruise speed, set the gain as
high as possible without oscillation or jittery stick movement.
"If the SPAN trimpot ends up being set below 75% of maximum (full clockwise),
the servo RANGE trimpot is set too high and tracking performance may be
degraded. The following procedure increases servo resolution without changing
system gain. Land the airplane and measure (better write it down) the full range
of aileron movement obtainable using the TURN CONTROL with the autopilot in
Wing Leveler mode.
"Set the span to about 90% of full clockwise rotation.
"Adjust the RANGE trimpot on the servo printed circuit board to restore that
same range of aileron deflection."
Dan Hopper
RV-7A
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| Subject: | RV6/6A Fuel Tank Attachment |
In preparation for replacing my loose slosh fuel tanks I want to mount
the inboard forward bracket attachment the way Van now recommends it. My
earlier plans just had you bolt the angle from the fuselage to the angle
from the fuel tank tip.
How is the 'new' arrangement? Which angle bracket gets the 1/4-inch
slot? The tank one or the fuselage one?
Also which goes forward - the tank bracket or the fuselage bracket.?
Which bracket gets the platenut?
My search said that Rvator #1 of 1998 shows what Van now recommends, but
my old Rvators were given away long ago. If someone had one handy and
could e-mail me what I believe is on page 11 of that issue I would
appreciate it.
Thanks for any help/insight.
John
n1cxo320@salidaco.com
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| Subject: | Re: RV6/6A Fuel Tank Attachment |
John Fasching wrote:
> In preparation for replacing my loose slosh fuel tanks I want to mount
> the inboard forward bracket attachment the way Van now recommends it.
> My earlier plans just had you bolt the angle from the fuselage to the
> angle from the fuel tank tip.
>
> How is the 'new' arrangement? Which angle bracket gets the 1/4-inch
> slot? The tank one or the fuselage one?
> Also which goes forward - the tank bracket or the fuselage bracket.?
> Which bracket gets the platenut?
John,
1st issue 1998, p 11 shows:
* slot in the tank angle
* plate nut in the fuselage angle
* tank angle forward of the fuselage angle.
If you'd like, I can scan the page and e-mail it directly to you.
Steve
RV-6A
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| Subject: | Re: RV6/6A Fuel Tank Attachment |
No, thank you, Steve, the information you gave me is exactly what I
needed to know. I can take it from here.
Again, thank you !!!
John
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| Subject: | Re: RV6/6A Fuel Tank Attachment |
Tank one goes foreward.
Tank one get s the slot.
Fuse one gets the platenut.
Just did my 6A.
Don't have the appropriate RVator handy though - but I can take pictures
next weekend of my install!
Zap me direct......if you want 'em.....
Ralph
----- Original Message -----
From: John Fasching
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 1:15 PM
Subject: RV-List: RV6/6A Fuel Tank Attachment
In preparation for replacing my loose slosh fuel tanks I want to mount
the inboard forward bracket attachment the way Van now recommends it. My
earlier plans just had you bolt the angle from the fuselage to the angle
from the fuel tank tip.
How is the 'new' arrangement? Which angle bracket gets the 1/4-inch
slot? The tank one or the fuselage one?
Also which goes forward - the tank bracket or the fuselage bracket.?
Which bracket gets the platenut?
My search said that Rvator #1 of 1998 shows what Van now recommends,
but my old Rvators were given away long ago. If someone had one handy
and could e-mail me what I believe is on page 11 of that issue I would
appreciate it.
Thanks for any help/insight.
John
n1cxo320@salidaco.com
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| Subject: | Re: RV6/6A Fuel Tank Attachment |
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Thanks, Ralph.
John
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| Subject: | Re: RV6/6A Fuel Tank Attachment |
John Fasching wrote:
> No, thank you, Steve, the information you gave me is exactly what I
> needed to know. I can take it from here.
>
> Again, thank you !!!
John,
Just for the record, in case you don't have this, there are some details
on the bolt/washer installation. It is not a standard 1/4" bolt torque.
From the RVator:
"Do not over tighten the bolt. If there is too much clamping pressure
the joint will note separate. The correct torque is achieved by
tightening the bolt until the AN970 washer can barely be moved with your
fingers. Then tighten the bolt 1/6 of a turn (one flat on the head).
The bolt has a drilled head and should be safety wired."
Good luck with the tank slosh clean out.
Steve
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| Subject: | Langley Fly-in June 23 |
The Langley, BC fly-in will be Saturday, June 23. This is the annual fly-in of
the Western Canada Wing. Langley, BC, is about 20 nm north of Bellingham, WA.
We generally have a good turnout of RVs from all over BC, and a good contingent
from the U.S., too.
Details are on our web page,
http://www.vansairforce.org/CYNJ/
For U.S. visitors, the Home Wing web page has all the information you need on
border crossing procedures.
http://www.edt.com/homewing/international/
I hope lots of RV-Listers can make it.
---
Tedd McHenry
Van's Air Force
Western Canada Wing
tedd@vansairforce.org
www.vansairforce.org
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| Subject: | Full face mask for painting |
I'm looking for a source of full face masks to be used for painting using
supplied fresh air. I've located a 3m mask designed for this application
which costs $120.00. I've also found one that I think will work from
McMaster-Carr for $75.00 and they have disposable clear lens protectors for
this mask. Any other suggestions for a lower cost alternative or one better
suited for this application?
Anybody have experience wearing eyeglasses under one of these?
Thanks,
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Langley Fly-in June 23 |
> For U.S. visitors, the Home Wing web page has all the information you
need on border crossing procedures.
>
> http://www.edt.com/homewing/international/
One possible correction. I believe that you need a passport now
to re-enter the USA. With processing times around 10 weeks now I would
expedite the paperwork.
http://travel.state.gov/passport/passport_1738.html
Ron
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| Subject: | Re: Full face mask for painting |
In a message dated 3/11/2007 5:15:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
d-burton@comcast.net writes:
I'm looking for a source of full face masks to be used for painting using
supplied fresh air. I've located a 3m mask designed for this application
which costs $120.00. I've also found one that I think will work from
McMaster-Carr for $75.00 and they have disposable clear lens protectors for
this mask. Any other suggestions for a lower cost alternative or one better
suited for this application?
Anybody have experience wearing eyeglasses under one of these?
===============================================
I might have an old one laying around that you may have for free. I'll look
in the hangar next time I'm out there. There is enough room for eyeglasses
but you'll have to find the peel-offs.
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 840hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
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| Subject: | RV6/6A Fuel Tank Attachment |
Steve:
Wh en you get the page scanned, I would greatly appreciate a copy of it
also.
Please email me at HYPERLINK "mailto:gerric@shaw.ca"gerric@shaw.ca
Thank you for your time.
Gerald Richardson
RV-6A
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Allison
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 12:42
Subject: Re: RV-List: RV6/6A Fuel Tank Attachment
John Fasching wrote:
In preparation for replacing my loose slosh fuel tanks I want to mount the
inboard forward bracket attachment the way Van now recommends it. My earlier
plans just had you bolt the angle from the fuselage to the angle from the
fuel tank tip.
How is the 'new' arrangement? Which angle bracket gets the 1/4-inch slot?
The tank one or the fuselage one?
Also which goes forward - the tank bracket or the fuselage bracket.? Which
bracket gets the platenut?
John,
1st issue 1998, p 11 shows:
* slot in the tank angle
* plate nut in the fuselage angle
* tank angle forward of the fuselage angle.
If you'd like, I can scan the page and e-mail it directly to you.
Steve
RV-6A
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| Subject: | Re: Glass for IFR |
I was "just passing thru" and saw this post and could not resist a comment.
I am now on my second Dynon IFR airplane. (RV-4 and F-1 EVO) I have flown over
500 hours behind Dynons with lots of actual including low approaches.
Here are my thoughts.
A steam gauge Altimeter, Airspeed Indicator & T/Coordinator are cheaper and a more
independent source of backup info than standby glass unit.
An autopilot is very important in an IFR RV. Both for Dynon failure and for keeping
the airplane rightside up when you are looking at charts.
If my Dynon ever fails, the autopilot will come on imeadiately.
If I was unwilling to fly in the clouds without the autopilot engaged, then I wouldn't
be flying in the clouds.
I keep an old Lowrance 500 in my "little oh $hit" bag along with a vice grip, screwdriver,
some Zip ties, a Mag light, some batteries, and some other goodies.
(sorry no handheld VHF. I won't have a spare hand to use it anyway)
A second EFIS might be a viable backup for the first, but I could fly to heck and
back with a T&B Alt, Airspeed, and handheld GPS.
My greatest fear in an all electric airplane is a lightning strike that fries
everything that is turned on. That would be a bad day. I don't have a good
answer for that. If the T&B and the Dynon both quit, I have a big problem.
But I can name several other scenarios that are more likely to cause just as
big a jamb.
My $.02
Tailwinds,
Doug Rozendaal
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=100030#100030
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| Subject: | Re: Glass for IFR |
Good two cents.
I've got a Blue Mountain EFIS and a backup Dynon. No round gauges at all.
Although I'm a long way from my IFR rating, I hope it will work well enough
to get back home if it clouds up at the last minute.
Greg
On 3/11/07, B25Flyer <dougr@petroblend.com> wrote:
>
>
> I was "just passing thru" and saw this post and could not resist a
> comment.
>
> I am now on my second Dynon IFR airplane. (RV-4 and F-1 EVO) I have flown
> over 500 hours behind Dynons with lots of actual including low approaches.
>
> Here are my thoughts.
> A steam gauge Altimeter, Airspeed Indicator & T/Coordinator are cheaper
> and a more independent source of backup info than standby glass unit.
>
> An autopilot is very important in an IFR RV. Both for Dynon failure and
> for keeping the airplane rightside up when you are looking at charts.
>
> If my Dynon ever fails, the autopilot will come on imeadiately.
>
> If I was unwilling to fly in the clouds without the autopilot engaged,
> then I wouldn't be flying in the clouds.
>
> I keep an old Lowrance 500 in my "little oh $hit" bag along with a vice
> grip, screwdriver, some Zip ties, a Mag light, some batteries, and some
> other goodies. (sorry no handheld VHF. I won't have a spare hand to use it
> anyway)
>
> A second EFIS might be a viable backup for the first, but I could fly to
> heck and back with a T&B Alt, Airspeed, and handheld GPS.
>
> My greatest fear in an all electric airplane is a lightning strike that
> fries everything that is turned on. That would be a bad day. I don't
> have a good answer for that. If the T&B and the Dynon both quit, I have a
> big problem. But I can name several other scenarios that are more likely
> to cause just as big a jamb.
>
> My $.02
>
> Tailwinds,
> Doug Rozendaal
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=100030#100030
>
>
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| Subject: | Langley Fly-in June 23 |
Tedd,
You might remind us U.S. residents that we will need a passport to get back
home if we are flying.
Terry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tedd McHenry
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 5:05 PM
Subject: RV-List: Langley Fly-in June 23
The Langley, BC fly-in will be Saturday, June 23. This is the annual fly-in
of
the Western Canada Wing. Langley, BC, is about 20 nm north of Bellingham,
WA.
We generally have a good turnout of RVs from all over BC, and a good
contingent
from the U.S., too.
Details are on our web page,
http://www.vansairforce.org/CYNJ/
For U.S. visitors, the Home Wing web page has all the information you need
on
border crossing procedures.
http://www.edt.com/homewing/international/
I hope lots of RV-Listers can make it.
---
Tedd McHenry
Van's Air Force
Western Canada Wing
tedd@vansairforce.org
www.vansairforce.org
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