---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 03/19/07: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:16 AM - Re: still waiting on Bluemountain (Dana Overall) 2. 05:08 AM - Re: still waiting on Bluemountain (Bob Collins) 3. 06:41 AM - Re: List: Fittings (glen matejcek) 4. 07:10 AM - Re: still waiting on Bluemountain (Lloyd, Daniel R.) 5. 07:26 AM - Re: non impulse coupling mag drive gear needed for elec ignition (LarryRobertHelming) 6. 10:02 AM - Re: still waiting on Bluemountain (Tracy Crook) 7. 11:27 AM - Re: still waiting on Bluemountain (Lloyd, Daniel R.) 8. 11:27 AM - DeltaHawk engine decision (Ralph Howey) 9. 12:36 PM - Re: non impulse coupling mag drive gear needed for elec ignition (Jeff Dowling) 10. 12:58 PM - Re: Bleeding Brakes (Bob J.) 11. 04:56 PM - Gamut Services- Carbon Fiber Canopy (Oldgeezer) 12. 05:34 PM - Re: still waiting on Bluemountain (N395V) 13. 08:15 PM - Re: still waiting on Bluemountain (Steven DiNieri) 14. 08:44 PM - Re: still waiting on Bluemountain (Paul Rice) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:16:50 AM PST US From: "Dana Overall" Subject: RE: RV-List: still waiting on Bluemountain Paul, as Sam said, I have been told the truth by Dynon concerning delivery, performance and support. Not much else to say:-) Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackwing1.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive >From: "Paul Rice" >To: >Subject: RV-List: still waiting on Bluemountain >Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:31:51 -0400 > >Message > I'm still waiting on my 2 Blue Mountain G4's it will be almost 5 months >since I ordered them if I get them in the next week or so. And I keep >hearing the same thing from them. The problem with the temp sensors caused >a back log blah blah blah. The give me an est. shipping week then when >that time come they give another and so on. How long has anybody else been >waiting? Maybe I should have gone with the Dynon. Any problems on their >deliveries. > > Paul Rice > RV8 almost ready to fly _________________________________________________________________ Mortgage refinance is hot 1) Rates near 30-yr lows 2) Good credit get intro-rate 4.625%* https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h2a5f&s=4056&p=5117&disc=y&vers=743 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:08:50 AM PST US From: "Bob Collins" Subject: RE: RV-List: still waiting on Bluemountain It seems every once in awhile on the RV List this complaint surfaces. So is this an ongoing issue or an isolated case? Customer service is THE most important part of my decision on who gets my money. Do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:41:33 AM PST US From: "glen matejcek" Subject: RV-List: RE: List: Fittings Hi Steve- I think I might have gotten mine from Lyc themselves, but I don't recall for sure. I know Earl's doesn't carry them. IIRC, there should also be a restrictor in the vent line for the mechanical fuel pump. >Looking for oil pressure line fitting that screws into the engine crankcase >with restricted orifice. Does anyone know who carries them? glen matejcek aerobubba@earthlink.net ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:10:54 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: still waiting on Bluemountain From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." Customer service and BMA should not be used in the same sentence..... Dan Lloyd -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Collins Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 8:08 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: still waiting on Bluemountain It seems every once in awhile on the RV List this complaint surfaces. So is this an ongoing issue or an isolated case? Customer service is THE most important part of my decision on who gets my money. Do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:26:25 AM PST US From: "LarryRobertHelming" Subject: Re: RV-List: non impulse coupling mag drive gear needed for elec ignition You can remove the drive gear from the magneto and install on your EI. It is not considered to be a part of the mag. I found that out too and got one from Mattituck. Larry in Indiana ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shemp" Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 10:01 AM Subject: RV-List: non impulse coupling mag drive gear needed for elec ignition > > Im finally getting around to installing my Light Speed Elec ignition and > just discovered I need a drive gear from a non impulse coupling magneto. > Both of my mags have impulse couplers. I will have an extra mag(not sure > how old but working fine), with impulse coupler of course, and relatively > new wiring harness(300 hrs) to trade. Anyone?? > > Jeff Shemp Dowling > N915JD > 300 + > Chicago > > > RV-List Digest Server wrote: >> * >> >> ================================================= >> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive >> ================================================= >> >> Today's complete RV-List Digest can also be found in either of the two >> Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in >> HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and >> Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of >> the RV-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as >> Notepad or with a web browser. >> HTML Version: >> >> >> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 07-03-15&Archive=RV >> >> Text Version: >> >> >> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 07-03-15&Archive=RV >> >> >> =============================================== >> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive >> =============================================== >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> RV-List Digest Archive >> --- >> Total Messages Posted Thu 03/15/07: 4 >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Today's Message Index: >> ---------------------- >> 1. 09:57 AM - Painting Questions and Advice (Daniel Snow) >> 2. 01:23 PM - TRADE: RV 6/8 Emp Construction video for RV 9 Video >> (Brandon Rigio) >> 3. 01:34 PM - Re: Painting Questions and Advice (RAS) >> 4. 02:26 PM - Re: TRADE: RV 6/8 Emp Construction video for RV 9 >> Video (Andy Gold) >> ________________________________ Message 1 >> _____________________________________ >> >> >> Time: 09:57:48 AM PST US >> From: "Daniel Snow" >> Subject: RV-List: Painting Questions and Advice >> >> >> The spec sheet says it can be taped in about 8 hours. I let mine cure >> overnight and still got tape trails. The next time I let it cure for >> about 24 hours and that worked much better. My problem is probably that >> I'm putting on too much paint. I'm about to paint now and will try using >> more reducer to reduce paint buildup and to get more flow out. >> >> >> >>> Time: 04:30:16 PM PST US >>> From: "n801bh@netzero.com" >>> Subject: Re: RV-List: Painting Questions and Advice >>> >>> As alot of us that have painted our kit planes know by now, >>> there is a VERY fine line between getting a slick finish with very li >>> ttle orange peel and creating that dreaded ,,, RUN .. I am curious thoug >>> h, with the product your are spraying,, How long do you wait for the pai >>> nt to cure till you tape off for stripes??? >>> >>> Thanks in advance.. >>> >>> >> >> >> ________________________________ Message 2 >> _____________________________________ >> >> >> Time: 01:23:35 PM PST US >> Subject: RV-List: TRADE: RV 6/8 Emp Construction video for RV 9 Video >> From: "Brandon Rigio" >> >> >> I have the Orndorff RV-6/8 Empennage videos and I would like to make a >> straight trade with anyone who has the RV-9 video. Reply off list if >> you're interested. >> >> Thanks, >> Brandon. >> >> B_rigio@hotmail.com >> >> >> ________________________________ Message 3 >> _____________________________________ >> >> >> Time: 01:34:34 PM PST US >> From: "RAS" >> Subject: Re: RV-List: Painting Questions and Advice >> >> >> Hi All, >> >> two things are of major influence when you paint: >> >> 1: temperature, most two pack paints require at least 15 centigrade >> preferable a bit higher around 18- 20 C mark. IF you CANNOT maintain this >> temperature for at least 6 hours, don't even attempt any paint spraying. >> >> 2: humidity,humidy between 40 - 70 % is fairly ideal. It can be elevated >> by wetting the floor, this is perfect when you're trying to accelerate >> the curing of polyurethane. Around 27C with a bucket of water over the >> floor does miracles on the cure time with Polyurethane. Excessive high >> temps won't hasten your case with poly. >> >> The 2 points above are required because of chemical reaction to be >> started and maintained between base and hardener. Yes, I know people too >> who claim to got away with far less, but it's like a poorly built >> aircraft, it flies and that's that. >> >> Technique and practise is what will make your paintjob look well. It >> can't be stressed enough 2 thin coats are better than one heavy one, >> regardless of what you spray. >> When I paint RV's I give it a single crosscoat where I just go a bit >> heavier than dusting the surface. When it's complete I go out of the >> booth and have a coffee and a snack, after half an hour I suit up again >> and give it a wet crosscoat. Look into the light and spray along with the >> mirror, in other words when you do your wet crosscoat which is about >> twice as haevy as your first coat, you'll notice that you get a good >> glossy finish which mirrors. When you make your passes keep spraying in a >> 50% overlap with the previous track and bring the mirror towards you >> without any hurry and without any interuptions. This will avoid any dry >> spots you 'll have to cut and polish afterwards. >> >> As you'll appreciate it's not that easy to teach someone to spray over >> the internet, so I only can give you some of the basic tips, if you >> practise a bit, even on a bit of masking paper, you'll swiftly get the >> hang of it. The most difficult thing in the begining will be the set up >> of your gun. Again use the masking paper and set up the ratio between >> paint and air. Too much paint at a given amount of air WILL produce >> orangepeel, no matter what type of paint you spray. >> Finally, the distance between the tip of your gun and your object is >> about the spread of your hand, spread hand as far as it goes, the >> distance between little finger and thumb is about 8" with most adults a >> faiurly good distance to start of with. >> >> As goes for runs and sags, I've been painting airliners for years both in >> the factory and out in the big maintenace facilities for years and light >> aircraft in the more recent years, they still occasionally happen. As >> long as you keep moving and don't keep hitting the same spot over and >> over you'll have a fair chance avoiding them. >> To aid your concentration switching of the cellphone is certainly a help! >> >> Good luck to all of you trying it for the first time and keep the paint >> to a minimum, it's an aircarft and not classic Rolls Royce motorcar >> needing 32 coats of paint. >> >> Marcel >> RV7 flying >> RV10 allmost >> >> ________________________________ Message 4 >> _____________________________________ >> >> >> Time: 02:26:38 PM PST US >> From: "Andy Gold" >> Subject: Re: RV-List: TRADE: RV 6/8 Emp Construction video for RV 9 Video >> >> >> Brandon, >> >> We are discontinueing the Orndorf video series but still have a couple of >> RV-9 empennage VHS videos on the shelf. If you can't find one as a >> trade, you can have one of these for $20. >> >> Call Builder's Bookstore to order 970 887-2207. >> >> Thanks, >> Andy >> www.buildersbooks.com >> >> >> do not archive >> >> >> - Original Message ----- >> From: "Brandon Rigio" >> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:25 PM >> Subject: RV-List: TRADE: RV 6/8 Emp Construction video for RV 9 Video >> >> >> >>> I have the Orndorff RV-6/8 Empennage videos and I would like to make a >>> straight trade with anyone who has the RV-9 video. Reply off list if >>> you're interested. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Brandon. >>> >>> B_rigio@hotmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:02:18 AM PST US From: "Tracy Crook" Subject: Re: RV-List: still waiting on Bluemountain I look at Bluemountain Avionics like I do Catto props: They are both slow but the Good Stuff is worth the wait. Tracy Crook ----- Original Message ----- From: Lloyd, Daniel R. To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 10:10 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: still waiting on Bluemountain > Customer service and BMA should not be used in the same sentence..... Dan Lloyd -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Collins Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 8:08 AM To: rv-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: RV-List: still waiting on Bluemountain > It seems every once in awhile on the RV List this complaint surfaces. So is this an ongoing issue or an isolated case? Customer service is THE most important part of my decision on who gets my money. Do not archive http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:27:02 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: still waiting on Bluemountain From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." That would be true if it was good, but when you wait forever for something, and then it is questionable whether you will get it in a working condition or not, is not good customer service. Just my .02 Dan Lloyd N289DT Do not archive _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tracy Crook Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 1:01 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: still waiting on Bluemountain I look at Bluemountain Avionics like I do Catto props: They are both slow but the Good Stuff is worth the wait. Tracy Crook ----- Original Message ----- From: Lloyd, Daniel R. To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 10:10 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: still waiting on Bluemountain Customer service and BMA should not be used in the same sentence..... Dan Lloyd -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Collins Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 8:08 AM To: rv-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: RV-List: still waiting on Bluemountain It seems every once in awhile on the RV List this complaint surfaces. So is this an ongoing issue or an isolated case? Customer service is THE most important part of my decision on who gets my money. Do not p; Navigator title=http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics. n bsp; available via title=http://forums.matronics.com/ href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:27:51 AM PST US From: "Ralph Howey" Subject: RV-List: DeltaHawk engine decision Hello everyone; Just a short note thank you all for your wise and sober counsel and to advise you of my decision not to send Deltahawk a deposit. I will get on with my building and hopefully have them get on with the development and certification of their fine looking engines. Perhaps I am a bit naive thinking this is " THE " next best engine but as a purpose built a/c engine burning jet fuel and with all the other things going for it I'll maintain my enthusiasm until they prove me wrong. For those of you interested in the Deltahawk I finally discovered Doug Reeves www.VansAirForce.net alternative engine section this weekend and there is a lengthy discussion on Deltahawk and other diesels. I was quite surprised that no one else chimed in with the claim of having been approached about a deposit but then perhaps there just isn't the interest I thought there would be. As Mickey Coggins said " most pilots are conservative, sceptical and risk adverse ", maybe he's right and probably that's the way it should be. Thanks again and with spring just a day or two away we can start thinking summer flying. Now how am I going to make my 8 into a coupe? Ralph in Delta B.C. RV8 empennage ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:36:13 PM PST US From: Jeff Dowling Subject: Re: RV-List: non impulse coupling mag drive gear needed for elec ignition The Lightspeed instructions clearly state "non impulse coupling" mag drive gear. I dont have a clue what the difference is. do not archive LarryRobertHelming wrote: > > > You can remove the drive gear from the magneto and install on your > EI. It is not considered to be a part of the mag. I found that out > too and got one from Mattituck. > > Larry in Indiana > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shemp" > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 10:01 AM > Subject: RV-List: non impulse coupling mag drive gear needed for elec > ignition > > >> >> Im finally getting around to installing my Light Speed Elec ignition >> and just discovered I need a drive gear from a non impulse coupling >> magneto. Both of my mags have impulse couplers. I will have an extra >> mag(not sure how old but working fine), with impulse coupler of >> course, and relatively new wiring harness(300 hrs) to trade. Anyone?? >> >> Jeff Shemp Dowling >> N915JD >> 300 + >> Chicago >> >> >> >> >> RV-List Digest Server wrote: >>> * >>> >>> ================================================= >>> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive >>> ================================================= >>> >>> Today's complete RV-List Digest can also be found in either of the >>> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest >>> formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features >>> Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes >>> the plain ASCII version of the RV-List Digest and can be viewed with >>> a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. >>> HTML Version: >>> >>> >>> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 07-03-15&Archive=RV >>> >>> >>> Text Version: >>> >>> >>> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 07-03-15&Archive=RV >>> >>> >>> >>> =============================================== >>> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive >>> =============================================== >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>> RV-List Digest Archive >>> --- >>> Total Messages Posted Thu 03/15/07: 4 >>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>> Today's Message Index: >>> ---------------------- >>> 1. 09:57 AM - Painting Questions and Advice (Daniel Snow) >>> 2. 01:23 PM - TRADE: RV 6/8 Emp Construction video for RV 9 >>> Video (Brandon Rigio) >>> 3. 01:34 PM - Re: Painting Questions and Advice (RAS) >>> 4. 02:26 PM - Re: TRADE: RV 6/8 Emp Construction video for RV 9 >>> Video (Andy Gold) >>> ________________________________ Message 1 >>> _____________________________________ >>> >>> >>> Time: 09:57:48 AM PST US >>> From: "Daniel Snow" >>> Subject: RV-List: Painting Questions and Advice >>> >>> >>> The spec sheet says it can be taped in about 8 hours. I let mine >>> cure overnight and still got tape trails. The next time I let it >>> cure for about 24 hours and that worked much better. My problem is >>> probably that I'm putting on too much paint. I'm about to paint now >>> and will try using more reducer to reduce paint buildup and to get >>> more flow out. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Time: 04:30:16 PM PST US >>>> From: "n801bh@netzero.com" >>>> Subject: Re: RV-List: Painting Questions and Advice >>>> >>>> As alot of us that have painted our kit planes know by now, >>>> there is a VERY fine line between getting a slick finish with >>>> very li >>>> ttle orange peel and creating that dreaded ,,, RUN .. I am curious >>>> thoug >>>> h, with the product your are spraying,, How long do you wait for >>>> the pai >>>> nt to cure till you tape off for stripes??? >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance.. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ Message 2 >>> _____________________________________ >>> >>> >>> Time: 01:23:35 PM PST US >>> Subject: RV-List: TRADE: RV 6/8 Emp Construction video for RV 9 Video >>> From: "Brandon Rigio" >>> >>> >>> I have the Orndorff RV-6/8 Empennage videos and I would like to make a >>> straight trade with anyone who has the RV-9 video. Reply off list if >>> you're interested. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Brandon. >>> >>> B_rigio@hotmail.com >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ Message 3 >>> _____________________________________ >>> >>> >>> Time: 01:34:34 PM PST US >>> From: "RAS" >>> Subject: Re: RV-List: Painting Questions and Advice >>> >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> two things are of major influence when you paint: >>> >>> 1: temperature, most two pack paints require at least 15 centigrade >>> preferable a bit higher around 18- 20 C mark. IF you CANNOT maintain >>> this temperature for at least 6 hours, don't even attempt any paint >>> spraying. >>> >>> 2: humidity,humidy between 40 - 70 % is fairly ideal. It can be >>> elevated by wetting the floor, this is perfect when you're trying to >>> accelerate the curing of polyurethane. Around 27C with a bucket of >>> water over the floor does miracles on the cure time with >>> Polyurethane. Excessive high temps won't hasten your case with poly. >>> >>> The 2 points above are required because of chemical reaction to be >>> started and maintained between base and hardener. Yes, I know people >>> too who claim to got away with far less, but it's like a poorly >>> built aircraft, it flies and that's that. >>> >>> Technique and practise is what will make your paintjob look well. It >>> can't be stressed enough 2 thin coats are better than one heavy one, >>> regardless of what you spray. >>> When I paint RV's I give it a single crosscoat where I just go a bit >>> heavier than dusting the surface. When it's complete I go out of the >>> booth and have a coffee and a snack, after half an hour I suit up >>> again and give it a wet crosscoat. Look into the light and spray >>> along with the mirror, in other words when you do your wet crosscoat >>> which is about twice as haevy as your first coat, you'll notice that >>> you get a good glossy finish which mirrors. When you make your >>> passes keep spraying in a 50% overlap with the previous track and >>> bring the mirror towards you without any hurry and without any >>> interuptions. This will avoid any dry spots you 'll have to cut and >>> polish afterwards. >>> >>> As you'll appreciate it's not that easy to teach someone to spray >>> over the internet, so I only can give you some of the basic tips, if >>> you practise a bit, even on a bit of masking paper, you'll swiftly >>> get the hang of it. The most difficult thing in the begining will be >>> the set up of your gun. Again use the masking paper and set up the >>> ratio between paint and air. Too much paint at a given amount of air >>> WILL produce orangepeel, no matter what type of paint you spray. >>> Finally, the distance between the tip of your gun and your object is >>> about the spread of your hand, spread hand as far as it goes, the >>> distance between little finger and thumb is about 8" with most >>> adults a faiurly good distance to start of with. >>> >>> As goes for runs and sags, I've been painting airliners for years >>> both in the factory and out in the big maintenace facilities for >>> years and light aircraft in the more recent years, they still >>> occasionally happen. As long as you keep moving and don't keep >>> hitting the same spot over and over you'll have a fair chance >>> avoiding them. >>> To aid your concentration switching of the cellphone is certainly a >>> help! >>> >>> Good luck to all of you trying it for the first time and keep the >>> paint to a minimum, it's an aircarft and not classic Rolls Royce >>> motorcar needing 32 coats of paint. >>> >>> Marcel >>> RV7 flying >>> RV10 allmost >>> >>> ________________________________ Message 4 >>> _____________________________________ >>> >>> >>> Time: 02:26:38 PM PST US >>> From: "Andy Gold" >>> Subject: Re: RV-List: TRADE: RV 6/8 Emp Construction video for RV 9 >>> Video >>> >>> >>> Brandon, >>> >>> We are discontinueing the Orndorf video series but still have a >>> couple of RV-9 empennage VHS videos on the shelf. If you can't find >>> one as a trade, you can have one of these for $20. >>> >>> Call Builder's Bookstore to order 970 887-2207. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Andy >>> www.buildersbooks.com >>> >>> >>> do not archive >>> >>> >>> - Original Message ----- From: "Brandon Rigio" >>> >>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:25 PM >>> Subject: RV-List: TRADE: RV 6/8 Emp Construction video for RV 9 Video >>> >>> >>> >>>> I have the Orndorff RV-6/8 Empennage videos and I would like to make a >>>> straight trade with anyone who has the RV-9 video. Reply off list if >>>> you're interested. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Brandon. >>>> >>>> B_rigio@hotmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:58:05 PM PST US From: "Bob J." Subject: Re: RV-List: Bleeding Brakes Andy, what I do is once the caliper is ready to go back on I "pre-bleed" the caliper by filling it with fluid so you are not pushing a bunch of air through the brake lines and master cylinders. I also don't drain the fluid out of of the lines; when removing the caliper I stop the line up with an AN plug. If you do it right, the brake will not need to be bled. If you're quick about disconnecting/reattaching the brake line to the caliper you will only get a few drops on the floor by doing it this way. Regards, Bob Japundza RV-6 flying F1 under const. On 3/17/07, Andy Gold wrote: > > > Where can I find step by step instructions on how to bleed the brakes. > > When I built the plane 10 years ago I had help with this from an A&P > friend > and most of what I remember was that it was a big mess. I found a leaky > wheel cylinder today which means a new set of O-rings and an afternoon of > fun. Having a little less fun than the first time would be a good thing. > > Then someone said I'll have to open up the master cylinders while I'm > doing > this, but I don't recall that. I think I remember bleeding straight up > into > the reservoir. > > Can anyone help me refresh my memory? > > Thanks, > Andy > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:56:40 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: Gamut Services- Carbon Fiber Canopy From: "Oldgeezer" Buyer Beware! I regretfully am posting this information to warn other builders of the fraud committed by Gamut Services and it's owner Charles Wilhite. Today I have contacted an Attorney and initiated legal action against Mr. Wilhite for failure to deliver a carbon fiber canopy that I paid for in full nine months ago. He has ignored all request for a full refund and has given me nothing but empty promises in return. He has gone into hiding, shutting down his web site, won't answer his telephone or emails. Myself and five others I know of, out of possibly 13 sales, have been ripped off to the tune of thousands of dollars and are starting a class action law suit against him, to recover our losses. If you to have been defrauded by Gamut Services and wish to join us, then contact me for details. This kind of business dishonesty cannot be tolerated in the aircraft building community and my warnings to other builders will hopefully prevent future victims to this fraud. Ron Oldgeezer01@msn.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=101753#101753 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:34:39 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: Re: still waiting on Bluemountain From: "N395V" I will admit up front I am an unabashed BMA fan and happy owner of 4 BMA EFis's and 2 autopilots. With one exception my experience with BMA has been pleasant and rewarding. I have over 600 hrs flying behind BMA, much of it IFR. The bottom line is the BMA units do what I want them to at a great price. The Launch of their Gen 4 products was bungled, egeregious, and inexcusable. Delivery was 8 months after I expected it. The units are now installed and doing everything I ask them to. There are some bugs and they do not do everything they are advertised to do but these bugs are trapidly dissappearing. I think rather than hearsay you should spend your EFIS dollars on a unit that fits your budget and does those things you think essential. If your only goals are fast delivery and out of the box plug and play then BMA is not for you. I know many happy Dynon, BMA, and Grand Rapids owners. The common theme is the units do what they expect them to. I also know some unhappy owners of most manufacturers. The common theme is the units do not do what they need to fulfill their flying requirements. Before you buy any unit talk to, and if possible fly with an owner of that unit. Before you listen to any advice about one company or another ask the giver of opinion if they own one or have flown behind one and if so how much time do they have using or installing them. If their answer starts with "well I know sombody, or I heard that, or I read" then you need to seriously discount their opinion. Bottom line is they are all good units, the question you need answered is will they do what I want done at a price I can afford. This is a big decision that you will have to live with the entire time you own your plane. If you are unhappy with your avionics you will be unhappy with your airplane. Decide based on fact and need, not rumor and innuendo. -------- Milt 2003 F1 Rocket 2006 Radial Rocket Some people live an entire lifetime and wonder if they have made a difference to the world, but the Marines dont have that problem. - Ronald Reagan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=101768#101768 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:15:20 PM PST US From: "Steven DiNieri" Subject: RE: RV-List: still waiting on Bluemountain Dan, I=92m na=EFve, but do I suspect sarcasm??? Seriously, I=92ve been looking at the g4 sport and would love to hear any real experience you may have had. Thanks Steve DiNieri Iflyrv10.com 40205 _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R. Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 2:26 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: still waiting on Bluemountain That would be true if it was good, but when you wait forever for something, and then it is questionable whether you will get it in a working condition or not, is not good customer service. Just my .02 Dan Lloyd N289DT Do not archive ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:44:25 PM PST US From: "Paul Rice" Subject: Re: RV-List: still waiting on Bluemountain Well, I call BM again today and Sheila said that the units were due in today and I would have mine by the end of the week. She then emailed me to let me know they had shown up there. I'll let you all know if they arrive as stated. Paul Rice ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven DiNieri To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 11:14 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: still waiting on Bluemountain Dan, I'm na=EFve, but do I suspect sarcasm??? Seriously, I've been looking at the g4 sport and would love to hear any real experience you may have had. Thanks Steve DiNieri Iflyrv10.com 40205 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R. Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 2:26 PM To: rv-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: RV-List: still waiting on Bluemountain That would be true if it was good, but when you wait forever for something, and then it is questionable whether you will get it in a working condition or not, is not good customer service. 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