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1. 06:45 AM - Re: RV-10 (Douglas Kohser)
2. 07:48 AM - Re: RV-10 (Patrick Kelley)
3. 08:08 AM - Re: RV-10 (Paul Besing)
4. 08:42 AM - Re: RV-10 (Tim Bryan)
5. 11:59 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 (ptrotter@optonline.net)
6. 09:53 PM - Interesting article on user fee issue (ronlee@pcisys.net)
7. 10:18 PM - Monument Valley Utah Day trip (ronlee@pcisys.net)
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Do not archive
As Van's has stated in the past, his main focus is as an aircraft kit
manufacture. His main business is not as a parts and pieces supplier for
nuts and bolts. If you want those items in a hurry, then go to someone
whose main business is in supplying customers with such items, such as Wicks
or Aircraft Spruce, etc. Since that is their core business, customer
service and fast shipping is what will distinguish one from another and
cause you to use them for repeat business.
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of WILLIAM AGSTER
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-10
Just bought some recently. How fast do you want them?? Fast, order from
Wicks. Ordered some from Van's also and they did not ship them until
Thursday when I ordered them over the internet on the previous Sunday. No
excuse for shipping four days later. Good thing I did not need them by the
following weekend. Wicks shipped Monday and I had them on Wednesday to
Denver.
Bill Agster
7A
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From: Bobpaulo@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 12:20 PM
Subject: RV-List: RV-10
Best place for rivet purchase would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Robert Paulovich
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On the other hand, I've never had a problem with slow shipping from Van's.
Usually it's replacement parts that I'm ordering, but they've also sent me
some miscellaneous hardware. I tend to order by phone rather than online,
which might make the difference.
Pat Kelley - RV-6A - Panel shipped to Aerotronics
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Kohser
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 6:47 AM
Subject: RE: RV-List: RV-10
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As Van's has stated in the past, his main focus is as an aircraft kit
manufacture. His main business is not as a parts and pieces supplier for
nuts and bolts. If you want those items in a hurry, then go to someone
whose main business is in supplying customers with such items, such as Wicks
or Aircraft Spruce, etc. Since that is their core business, customer
service and fast shipping is what will distinguish one from another and
cause you to use them for repeat business.
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of WILLIAM AGSTER
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-10
Just bought some recently. How fast do you want them?? Fast, order from
Wicks. Ordered some from Van's also and they did not ship them until
Thursday when I ordered them over the internet on the previous Sunday. No
excuse for shipping four days later. Good thing I did not need them by the
following weekend. Wicks shipped Monday and I had them on Wednesday to
Denver.
Bill Agster
7A
----- Original Message -----
From: Bobpaulo@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 12:20 PM
Subject: RV-List: RV-10
Best place for rivet purchase would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Robert Paulovich
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I used to put larger orders together with Van's when I didn't necessarily need
something. I'd buy some hardware, rivets, angle, etc...the delivery was ok...but
yes, if you are out and need it now, you might be better off ordering elsewhere...I
just try to support Van's whenever possible for things like that.
Paul Besing
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As Vans has stated in the past, his main focus is as an aircraft kit manufacture.
His main business is not as a parts and pieces supplier for nuts and bolts.
If you want those items in a hurry, then go to someone whose main business
is in supplying customers with such items, such as Wicks or Aircraft Spruce,
etc. Since that is their core business, customer service and fast shipping is
what will distinguish one from another and cause you to use them for repeat
business.
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of WILLIAM AGSTER
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-10
Just bought some recently. How fast do you want them?? Fast, order from
Wicks. Ordered some from Van's also and they did not ship them until Thursday
when I ordered them over the internet on the previous Sunday. No excuse for
shipping four days later. Good thing I did not need them by the following weekend.
Wicks shipped Monday and I had them on Wednesday to Denver.
Bill Agster
7A
----- Original Message -----
From: Bobpaulo@aol.com
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 12:20 PM
Subject: RV-List: RV-10
Best place for rivet purchase would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Robert Paulovich
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Ordering on the phone has speeded up the order by as much as 3 days for me.
They told me they only check the web orders once a day and sometimes they
get put back because of schedule. If you want it faster, order by phone and
they process it while you are on the phone.
Tim
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Kelley
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:40 AM
Subject: RE: RV-List: RV-10
On the other hand, I've never had a problem with slow shipping from Van's.
Usually it's replacement parts that I'm ordering, but they've also sent me
some miscellaneous hardware. I tend to order by phone rather than online,
which might make the difference.
Pat Kelley - RV-6A - Panel shipped to Aerotronics
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Kohser
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 6:47 AM
Subject: RE: RV-List: RV-10
Do not archive
As Van's has stated in the past, his main focus is as an aircraft kit
manufacture. His main business is not as a parts and pieces supplier for
nuts and bolts. If you want those items in a hurry, then go to someone
whose main business is in supplying customers with such items, such as Wicks
or Aircraft Spruce, etc. Since that is their core business, customer
service and fast shipping is what will distinguish one from another and
cause you to use them for repeat business.
_____
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of WILLIAM AGSTER
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-10
Just bought some recently. How fast do you want them?? Fast, order from
Wicks. Ordered some from Van's also and they did not ship them until
Thursday when I ordered them over the internet on the previous Sunday. No
excuse for shipping four days later. Good thing I did not need them by the
following weekend. Wicks shipped Monday and I had them on Wednesday to
Denver.
Bill Agster
7A
----- Original Message -----
From: Bobpaulo@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 12:20 PM
Subject: RV-List: RV-10
Best place for rivet purchase would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Robert Paulovich
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If you order by phone by 11am Van=27s time and request a fast shipping m
ethod such as 2-day or 3-day=2C the order will ship the same day as they
get the order=2E If you use standard shipping=2C it will take them a f
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Paul Trotter
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From=3A Paul Besing
Date=3A Sunday=2C April 15=2C 2007 11=3A08 am
Subject=3A RE=3A RV-List=3A RV-10
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=3E and pieces supplier for nuts and bolts=2E If you want those items
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=3E supplying customers with such items=2C such as Wicks or Aircraft
=3E Spruce=2C etc=2E Since that is their core business=2C customer
=3E service and fast shipping is what will distinguish one from
=3E another and cause you to use them for repeat business=2E
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=3E From=3A owner-rv-list-server=40matronics=2Ecom =5Bmailto=3Aowner-rv-
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=3E server=40matronics=2Ecom=5D On Behalf Of WILLIAM AGSTER
=3E Sent=3A Saturday=2C April 14=2C 2007 11=3A35 PM
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=3E Subject=3A Re=3A RV-List=3A RV-10
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=3E Just bought some recently=2E How fast do you want them=3F=3F
=3E Fast=2C order from Wicks=2E Ordered some from Van=27s also and they
=3E did not ship them until Thursday when I ordered them over the
=3E internet on the previous Sunday=2E No excuse for shipping four
=3E days later=2E Good thing I did not need them by the following
=3E weekend=2E Wicks shipped Monday and I had them on Wednesday to
=3E Denver=2E
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=3E Bill Agster
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=3E 7A
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=3E ----- Original Message -----
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=3E Sent=3A Saturday=2C April 14=2C 2007 12=3A20 PM
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=3E Best place for rivet purchase would be appreciated=2E
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Subject: | Monument Valley Utah Day trip |
One of the RV grasshoppers (GH #2) wanted to fly out to Monument Valley
Utah (think John Wayne western) before starting his condition inspection.
We finally decided on Saturday (14 April).
Our plan was to head out from Meadow lake (00V) towards Salida then over
to Telluride, make another T&G at another airport then overfly Monument
Valley before coming back close to the four corners area and do a T&G at
the southwestern CO airports where we have never been.
My hangar buddy grasshopper (GH #3) and I depart and were to meet up with
GH #2 near Pikes Peak. Before we meet up with #2, he notes that he lost
his alternator and heads back home. GH #3 and I continue west and make
stops at Gunnison and Montrose then head south to Telluride. Just before
we switch to the Telluride unicom, we hear GH #2. He is on his way so we
stop at Telluride and wait for him. I won't reveal his alternator issue
but just as a side comment, if you ever get cold and need to reach back
and get a blankie to cover yourself, make sure that you do not hit the
alternator switch and move it to the off position.
The approach to Telluride was awesome. I was more concerned with
avoiding noise sensitive areas and not screwing up than in taking a
picture but it was the best final approach I have ever seen. White, snow
capped mountains everywhere but on the approach path to Rwy 9. Just
spectacular.
After GH #2 arrives we go into town for lunch. Departure was to the west
and on to Nucla. At that point GH #2 leaves for home and GH #3 and I
head over to Monument Valley. Once there, I continue overhead patrol
while he descends and takes pictures.
>From there we start the journey home. He decides to stop at Cortez (not
just a T&G) so I tell him to meet me at Pagosa Springs. I make a T&G at
Durango and stop at Pagosa for fuel.
We meet up there then fly over Wolf Creek Pass and makes T&Gs at Del
Norte, Leach and Monte Vista. Del Norte was neat in that there is a tall
rocky formation on the approach end of Rwy 8. We both managed to miss it.
Then over the Great Sand Dunes, beyond which GH #3 does a T&G at Silver
West and we climb back up to cross the front range and back to Meadow
Lake. Total flight time for me was 5.8 hours and a day of incredibly
beautiful Colorado/Utah flying.
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