---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 04/15/07: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:45 AM - Re: RV-10 (Douglas Kohser) 2. 07:48 AM - Re: RV-10 (Patrick Kelley) 3. 08:08 AM - Re: RV-10 (Paul Besing) 4. 08:42 AM - Re: RV-10 (Tim Bryan) 5. 11:59 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 (ptrotter@optonline.net) 6. 09:53 PM - Interesting article on user fee issue (ronlee@pcisys.net) 7. 10:18 PM - Monument Valley Utah Day trip (ronlee@pcisys.net) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:45:38 AM PST US From: "Douglas Kohser" Subject: RE: RV-List: RV-10 Do not archive As Van's has stated in the past, his main focus is as an aircraft kit manufacture. His main business is not as a parts and pieces supplier for nuts and bolts. If you want those items in a hurry, then go to someone whose main business is in supplying customers with such items, such as Wicks or Aircraft Spruce, etc. Since that is their core business, customer service and fast shipping is what will distinguish one from another and cause you to use them for repeat business. _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of WILLIAM AGSTER Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 11:35 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-10 Just bought some recently. How fast do you want them?? Fast, order from Wicks. Ordered some from Van's also and they did not ship them until Thursday when I ordered them over the internet on the previous Sunday. No excuse for shipping four days later. Good thing I did not need them by the following weekend. Wicks shipped Monday and I had them on Wednesday to Denver. Bill Agster 7A ----- Original Message ----- From: Bobpaulo@aol.com Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 12:20 PM Subject: RV-List: RV-10 Best place for rivet purchase would be appreciated. Thanks, Robert Paulovich _____ See what's free at AOL.com . href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/N avigator?RV-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:48:58 AM PST US From: "Patrick Kelley" Subject: RE: RV-List: RV-10 On the other hand, I've never had a problem with slow shipping from Van's. Usually it's replacement parts that I'm ordering, but they've also sent me some miscellaneous hardware. I tend to order by phone rather than online, which might make the difference. Pat Kelley - RV-6A - Panel shipped to Aerotronics _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Kohser Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 6:47 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: RV-10 Do not archive As Van's has stated in the past, his main focus is as an aircraft kit manufacture. His main business is not as a parts and pieces supplier for nuts and bolts. If you want those items in a hurry, then go to someone whose main business is in supplying customers with such items, such as Wicks or Aircraft Spruce, etc. Since that is their core business, customer service and fast shipping is what will distinguish one from another and cause you to use them for repeat business. _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of WILLIAM AGSTER Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 11:35 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-10 Just bought some recently. How fast do you want them?? Fast, order from Wicks. Ordered some from Van's also and they did not ship them until Thursday when I ordered them over the internet on the previous Sunday. No excuse for shipping four days later. Good thing I did not need them by the following weekend. Wicks shipped Monday and I had them on Wednesday to Denver. Bill Agster 7A ----- Original Message ----- From: Bobpaulo@aol.com Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 12:20 PM Subject: RV-List: RV-10 Best place for rivet purchase would be appreciated. Thanks, Robert Paulovich ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:08:41 AM PST US From: Paul Besing Subject: RE: RV-List: RV-10 I used to put larger orders together with Van's when I didn't necessarily need something. I'd buy some hardware, rivets, angle, etc...the delivery was ok...but yes, if you are out and need it now, you might be better off ordering elsewhere...I just try to support Van's whenever possible for things like that. Paul Besing Douglas Kohser wrote: v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } Do not archive As Vans has stated in the past, his main focus is as an aircraft kit manufacture. His main business is not as a parts and pieces supplier for nuts and bolts. If you want those items in a hurry, then go to someone whose main business is in supplying customers with such items, such as Wicks or Aircraft Spruce, etc. Since that is their core business, customer service and fast shipping is what will distinguish one from another and cause you to use them for repeat business. --------------------------------- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of WILLIAM AGSTER Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 11:35 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-10 Just bought some recently. How fast do you want them?? Fast, order from Wicks. Ordered some from Van's also and they did not ship them until Thursday when I ordered them over the internet on the previous Sunday. No excuse for shipping four days later. Good thing I did not need them by the following weekend. Wicks shipped Monday and I had them on Wednesday to Denver. Bill Agster 7A ----- Original Message ----- From: Bobpaulo@aol.com To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 12:20 PM Subject: RV-List: RV-10 Best place for rivet purchase would be appreciated. Thanks, Robert Paulovich --------------------------------- See what's free at AOL.com. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List http://forums.matronics.com --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:42:06 AM PST US From: "Tim Bryan" Subject: RE: RV-List: RV-10 Ordering on the phone has speeded up the order by as much as 3 days for me. They told me they only check the web orders once a day and sometimes they get put back because of schedule. If you want it faster, order by phone and they process it while you are on the phone. Tim _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Kelley Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:40 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: RV-10 On the other hand, I've never had a problem with slow shipping from Van's. Usually it's replacement parts that I'm ordering, but they've also sent me some miscellaneous hardware. I tend to order by phone rather than online, which might make the difference. Pat Kelley - RV-6A - Panel shipped to Aerotronics _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Kohser Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 6:47 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: RV-10 Do not archive As Van's has stated in the past, his main focus is as an aircraft kit manufacture. His main business is not as a parts and pieces supplier for nuts and bolts. If you want those items in a hurry, then go to someone whose main business is in supplying customers with such items, such as Wicks or Aircraft Spruce, etc. Since that is their core business, customer service and fast shipping is what will distinguish one from another and cause you to use them for repeat business. _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of WILLIAM AGSTER Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 11:35 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-10 Just bought some recently. How fast do you want them?? Fast, order from Wicks. Ordered some from Van's also and they did not ship them until Thursday when I ordered them over the internet on the previous Sunday. No excuse for shipping four days later. Good thing I did not need them by the following weekend. Wicks shipped Monday and I had them on Wednesday to Denver. Bill Agster 7A ----- Original Message ----- From: Bobpaulo@aol.com Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 12:20 PM Subject: RV-List: RV-10 Best place for rivet purchase would be appreciated. Thanks, Robert Paulovich ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:59:48 AM PST US From: ptrotter@optonline.net Subject: Re: RE: RV-List: RV-10 If you order by phone by 11am Van=27s time and request a fast shipping m ethod such as 2-day or 3-day=2C the order will ship the same day as they get the order=2E If you use standard shipping=2C it will take them a f ew days to ship it=2E Paul Trotter ----- Original Message ----- From=3A Paul Besing Date=3A Sunday=2C April 15=2C 2007 11=3A08 am Subject=3A RE=3A RV-List=3A RV-10 To=3A rv-list=40matronics=2Ecom =3E I used to put larger orders together with Van=27s when I didn=27t =3E necessarily need something=2E I=27d buy some hardware=2C rivets=2C =3E angle=2C etc=2E=2E=2Ethe delivery was ok=2E=2E=2Ebut yes=2C if you a re out and =3E need it now=2C you might be better off ordering elsewhere=2E=2E=2EI just =3E try to support Van=27s whenever possible for things like that=2E =3E =3E Paul Besing =3E =3E Douglas Kohser wrote=3A =3E v=5C=3A* =7Bbehavior=3Aurl(=23default=23VML)=3B=7D o=5C=3A* =3E =7Bbehavior=3Aurl(=23default=23VML)=3B=7D w=5C=3A* =3E =7Bbehavior=3Aurl(=23default=23VML)=3B=7D =2Eshape =3E =7Bbehavior=3Aurl(=23default=23VML)=3B=7D =3E st1=5C=3A*=7Bbehavior=3Aurl(=23default=23ieooui) =7D Do not archive =3E =3E As Van=92s has stated in the past=2C his main focus is as an =3E aircraft kit manufacture=2E His main business is not as a parts =3E and pieces supplier for nuts and bolts=2E If you want those items =3E in a hurry=2C then go to someone whose main business is in =3E supplying customers with such items=2C such as Wicks or Aircraft =3E Spruce=2C etc=2E Since that is their core business=2C customer =3E service and fast shipping is what will distinguish one from =3E another and cause you to use them for repeat business=2E =3E =3E =3E --------------------------------- =3E =3E From=3A owner-rv-list-server=40matronics=2Ecom =5Bmailto=3Aowner-rv- list- =3E server=40matronics=2Ecom=5D On Behalf Of WILLIAM AGSTER =3E Sent=3A Saturday=2C April 14=2C 2007 11=3A35 PM =3E To=3A rv-list=40matronics=2Ecom =3E Subject=3A Re=3A RV-List=3A RV-10 =3E =3E =3E Just bought some recently=2E How fast do you want them=3F=3F =3E Fast=2C order from Wicks=2E Ordered some from Van=27s also and they =3E did not ship them until Thursday when I ordered them over the =3E internet on the previous Sunday=2E No excuse for shipping four =3E days later=2E Good thing I did not need them by the following =3E weekend=2E Wicks shipped Monday and I had them on Wednesday to =3E Denver=2E =3E =3E Bill Agster =3E =3E 7A =3E =3E ----- Original Message ----- =3E =3E From=3A Bobpaulo=40aol=2Ecom =3E =3E To=3A rv-list=40matronics=2Ecom =3E =3E Sent=3A Saturday=2C April 14=2C 2007 12=3A20 PM =3E =3E Subject=3A RV-List=3A RV-10 =3E =3E =3E =3E Best place for rivet purchase would be appreciated=2E =3E =3E Thanks=2C =3E =3E Robert Paulovich =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E --------------------------------- =3E =3E See what=27s free at AOL=2Ecom=2E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E href==22http=3A//www=2Ematronics=2Ecom/Navigator=3FRV- =3E List=22=3Ehttp=3A//www=2Ematronics=2Ecom/Navigator=3FRV-List =3E =3E href==22http=3A//forums=2Ematronics=2Ecom=22=3Ehttp=3A//forums=2Em atronics=2Ecom =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E http=3A//www=2Ematronics=2Ecom/Navigator=3FRV-List =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E http=3A//forums=2Ematronics=2Ecom =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E =3E --------------------------------- =3E Ahhh=2E=2E=2Eimagining that irresistible =22new car=22 smell=3F =3E Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos=2E =3E ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:53:19 PM PST US From: ronlee@pcisys.net Subject: RV-List: Interesting article on user fee issue http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070415/ap_on_bi_ge/ticket_taxes_9 --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:18:32 PM PST US From: ronlee@pcisys.net Subject: RV-List: Monument Valley Utah Day trip One of the RV grasshoppers (GH #2) wanted to fly out to Monument Valley Utah (think John Wayne western) before starting his condition inspection. We finally decided on Saturday (14 April). Our plan was to head out from Meadow lake (00V) towards Salida then over to Telluride, make another T&G at another airport then overfly Monument Valley before coming back close to the four corners area and do a T&G at the southwestern CO airports where we have never been. My hangar buddy grasshopper (GH #3) and I depart and were to meet up with GH #2 near Pikes Peak. Before we meet up with #2, he notes that he lost his alternator and heads back home. GH #3 and I continue west and make stops at Gunnison and Montrose then head south to Telluride. Just before we switch to the Telluride unicom, we hear GH #2. He is on his way so we stop at Telluride and wait for him. I won't reveal his alternator issue but just as a side comment, if you ever get cold and need to reach back and get a blankie to cover yourself, make sure that you do not hit the alternator switch and move it to the off position. The approach to Telluride was awesome. I was more concerned with avoiding noise sensitive areas and not screwing up than in taking a picture but it was the best final approach I have ever seen. White, snow capped mountains everywhere but on the approach path to Rwy 9. Just spectacular. After GH #2 arrives we go into town for lunch. Departure was to the west and on to Nucla. At that point GH #2 leaves for home and GH #3 and I head over to Monument Valley. Once there, I continue overhead patrol while he descends and takes pictures. >From there we start the journey home. He decides to stop at Cortez (not just a T&G) so I tell him to meet me at Pagosa Springs. I make a T&G at Durango and stop at Pagosa for fuel. We meet up there then fly over Wolf Creek Pass and makes T&Gs at Del Norte, Leach and Monte Vista. Del Norte was neat in that there is a tall rocky formation on the approach end of Rwy 8. We both managed to miss it. Then over the Great Sand Dunes, beyond which GH #3 does a T&G at Silver West and we climb back up to cross the front range and back to Meadow Lake. Total flight time for me was 5.8 hours and a day of incredibly beautiful Colorado/Utah flying. --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.