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1. 02:31 AM - Re: Texas Sales Tax Experimental Acft. (PJ Seipel)
2. 04:13 AM - Re: Texas Sales Tax Experimental Acft.Texas Sales Tax Experimental Acft.Texas Sales Tax Experimental Acft. (Russell Daves)
3. 04:33 AM - Re: Looking for hangar designer (glen matejcek)
4. 05:11 AM - Re: N64PR First Flight (Vince-Himsl)
5. 05:40 AM - Tru Trak EFIS (B25Flyer)
6. 05:47 AM - Re: Re: Looking for hangar designer (Paul Besing)
7. 06:08 AM - Re: Texas Sales Tax Experimental Acft. (Bill Gunn)
8. 06:40 AM - Re: Exhaust Gasket Installation Question (SCOTT SPENCER)
9. 08:35 AM - Builder's Log Photos (Charles Brame)
10. 08:46 AM - Re: Builder's Log Photos (Tim Bryan)
11. 08:49 AM - Garmin 496 - XM Antenna connector (Larry James)
12. 09:57 AM - Re: Builder's Log Photos (Andy Gold)
13. 10:15 AM - Re: Builder's Log Photos (Bruce Gray)
14. 10:48 AM - Re: Garmin 496 - XM Antenna connector (Tim Lewis)
15. 10:48 AM - Re: Fuel selector structure (Jim Oke)
16. 11:10 AM - Re: Garmin 496 - XM Antenna connector (Bob J.)
17. 11:20 AM - Re: N64PR First Flight (John Jessen)
18. 01:57 PM - Re: Builder's Log Photos (Paul Besing)
19. 03:01 PM - Re: Builder's Log Photos (Mike Robertson)
20. 03:43 PM - Re: Aero Classic Oil Cooler (Get a SW) ()
21. 03:52 PM - Re:N number requirements (Dale Ensing)
22. 05:55 PM - Compressor & Painting Questions (Doug Medema)
23. 07:42 PM - Unfourtunately it's time to sell my RV6 (Garry LeGare)
24. 07:42 PM - Re: Compressor & Painting Questions (linn Walters)
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Subject: | Re: Texas Sales Tax Experimental Acft. |
The sales/use tax in Texas is not new. They may not have been enforcing
it, but it's been on the books for a long time.
PJ Seipel
RV-10 #40032
Bruce Gray wrote:
>
> And that would be 3 years from the date of purchase of the kit, not the date
> of registration.
>
> Bruce
> www.glasair.org
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:59 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Texas Sales Tax Experimental Acft.
>
>
>
> Unless the tax was in place at the time the sale(s) took place, it would
> be an unconstitutional retroactive tax. Most state and federal taxes
> must be collected within 3 years unless fraud was involved.
> Bruce Gray wrote:
>
>> Seek out the advice of a tax attorney, most states have statute of
>> limitation laws.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bruce
>> www.glasair.org
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *J. R. Dial
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 07, 2007 11:27 AM
>> *To:* RV-List
>> *Subject:* RV-List: Texas Sales Tax Experimental Acft.
>>
>>
>>
>> I do not know if this is going on in other
>> states but the state of Texas is sending out sales/use tax notices
>> on Experimental homebuilt aircraft. Has anybody else run into this
>> and how does the law apply on this. My plane has been registered
>> for several years but they are evidently searching FAA data bases
>> and trying to collect sales tax as if the plane was bought from
>> another person or they want tax on the materials used in the
>> construction of the plane. The guy I talked to indicated they want
>> tax on the value of the plane which means you would be paying tax
>> on your own labor?
>>
>> If anybody else has addressed this I would
>> appreciate how you handled it and what the law requires.
>>
>>
>>
>> DO NOT ARCHIVE
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> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/N
> avigator?RV-List
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>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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Subject: | Re: Texas Sales Tax Experimental Acft.Texas Sales Tax Experimental |
Acft.Texas Sales Tax Experimental Acft.
I agree with Bruce (original message below) about providing no
information about any purchases. I have read the actual Texas
Comptroller letter to one RV-4 Builder and The first sentence of such
letter states:
"The Federal Aviation Administration's records reflect that you
purchased and registered the above referenced aircraft."
If I receive such a letter I will respond with a letter that says:
"I received the enclosed letter and wish to inform you that I DID NOT
purchase the aircraft you inquired about. I BUILT such aircraft and
that is why it has as the type aircraft my name on such registration.
While I did buy the RV-4 plans and some parts from Van's Aircraft, that
was done back in ____ when I started building such airplane.
I have reviewed the Tax Publication you sent to me and have consulted my
attorney and do not believe that I owe either sales or use taxes on the
airplane that I built."
Russ Daves
N710RV - Flying RV-10
Original Message from Bruce:
Tax collectors have been know to use heavy handed and unlawful tactics
before. My policy, and I've fought a few battles, is not to
provide ANY
information to the enemy. Tell them you're not subject to the tax,
put
the
burden of proving you are on them, appeal any ruling up the chain
of the
taxing agency all the way to the courts, if necessary.
If we all did this, they would soon tire and find some other
complacent
citizen to plunder.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
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Subject: | RE: Looking for hangar designer |
Hi Paul-
>I wanted to see some plans, some pictures, etc, so I can communicate what
I like
>to my architect with pictures and other ideas. I'm soley using him for
designing
>the building to my needs. But, I'd like a good starting point, and it
doesn't
>seem that there are hangar/home type plans out there like there are home
>plans.
>I plan on finding a contractor myself, as my architect is on the other
side of
>the country.
At the risk of beating a dead horse, the latest bound copy of the Living
With Your PLane directory I have, which is several years old, has 30 floor
plans in it. Many of them come with designer and / or builder info. There
is a separate section with designer / builder ads. Then there is a fairly
comprehensive listing of the airparks across the nation, as well as their
details. The whole publication is now online (vs printed) at
http://www.livingwithyourplane.com/ . As my particular industry has tanked
I'm no longer a member or actively looking at airport homes, but I would
strongly recommend this pub as a resource for anyone who is.
FWIW,
glen matejcek
aerobubba@earthlink.net
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Subject: | N64PR First Flight |
You mean these garage queens will one day fly?!
You have given me hope!
Congratulations!!!!
Vince Himsl
Rv8(SB) - finish
Moscow, ID
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Rice
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 7:04 PM
Subject: RV-List: N64PR First Flight
Thanks to all who have provided me with info on this site. Today I flew my
RV8 with TMX-IO360 and Hartzell Constant speed prop for the first time.
Flew straight and level hands off, no adjustments needed. The acceleration
is amazing. Now on to the small finish items.
Paul Rice
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All,
I was in Springdale and Jim Younkin took me for a ride in the TT RV-9 and I got
to fly the Tru Trak EFIS. The autopilot was not enabled and there were some
other features that were not working because they were doing flight testing.
The screen is INCREDIBLY bright. and the graphics are very bold with thick lines
that are very easy to see. The EFIS is smooth as silk. I love my Dynon, but
it jumps around in turbulence. The Tru Trak is rock solid smooth.
the OVAL HSI looks goofy, but works great. it makes the area where the pointer
is very large so the istrument flies like a 6" HSI.
The entire unit is very intuitive and with little or no briefing someone should
be able to jump in it and fly away.
Again, what I flew was a prototype but it will be a really cool box.
Tailwinds,
Doug Rozendaal
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=111555#111555
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Subject: | Re: RE: Looking for hangar designer |
I just subscribed to it, and I must say I was dissapointed. The "floorplans" are
nothing but sketches of some peoples home's that have been submitted. Not
very much to go on as far as a library of plans you can actually use. I don't
know if the bound version is any better, but the online version is not worth
the money.
Paul Besing
glen matejcek <aerobubba@earthlink.net> wrote:
Hi Paul-
>I wanted to see some plans, some pictures, etc, so I can communicate what
I like
>to my architect with pictures and other ideas. I'm soley using him for
designing
>the building to my needs. But, I'd like a good starting point, and it
doesn't
>seem that there are hangar/home type plans out there like there are home
>plans.
>I plan on finding a contractor myself, as my architect is on the other
side of
>the country.
At the risk of beating a dead horse, the latest bound copy of the Living
With Your PLane directory I have, which is several years old, has 30 floor
plans in it. Many of them come with designer and / or builder info. There
is a separate section with designer / builder ads. Then there is a fairly
comprehensive listing of the airparks across the nation, as well as their
details. The whole publication is now online (vs printed) at
http://www.livingwithyourplane.com/ . As my particular industry has tanked
I'm no longer a member or actively looking at airport homes, but I would
strongly recommend this pub as a resource for anyone who is.
FWIW,
glen matejcek
aerobubba@earthlink.net
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Subject: | Re: Texas Sales Tax Experimental Acft. |
For Texas aircraft taxes, see the following:
<www.window.state.tx.us> (Texas Comptroller home page) - upper right,
search for *aircraft*. The Google search engine should show
*Aircraft and the Texas Sales and Use Tax (TX 94-168)* dated
March 2006
Bill Gunn, TxDOT Aviation Division
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Subject: | Re: Exhaust Gasket Installation Question |
Some (including me) use silicone as a sealant around the blo-proof gaskets on the
exhaust. It performs many functions and has no bad side-effects. Give them
a healthy bead of almost any kind of silicone on both sides. Obviously the high-temp
stuff sold as gasket sealant is probably best -but even the bathtub variety
seems to be tolerant of high temps... just beware some are higher in acetic
acid (which is why they are not recommended sometimes for use on aluminum).
If it has a really strong vinegar smell then go get another variety.
Anyhow...
First, it holds the gaskets in place while the rest of the system goes up into
place.
Second, it lubricates the threads on the studs (smear a little extra all over
the threads).
Third, it seals any remaining leaks very well -and don't worry about the splooge
inside the pipes -it will burn off and come out the pipes leaving the inside
flush and smooth.
Fourth, it will keep the nuts from loosening and protect them, and the studs
from corrosion. (smear a little extra bead around the tightened nut)
Fifth, it will make your life much easier when it comes time to take the exhaust
system off again. Just put your socket up there over the siliconed nut/stud
and start loosening. The stuff will be ground up and cleaned off as you (easily)
remove the nut.
The stuff is BEAUTIFUL for exhausts!
Scott
N4ZW
(A&P FWIW -and did this on *many* airplanes I used to maintain)
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Subject: | Builder's Log Photos |
I am within days of getting my Air Worthiness Inspection. I have a
pretty detailed builders log but NO photos of any kind.
The fFAA AW Application Letter specifies log and photos.
Has anybody applied for the inspection with no photos? Any comments
from the feds?
Charlie Brame
RV-6A N11CB
San Antonio
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Subject: | Builder's Log Photos |
I didn't have a builders log or photos and the Designate didn't even ask for
it. Another person at the time told me I could just initial the plans where
appropriate. Clearly becomes a matter of the inspector you use. A log may
suffice.
Maybe Mike R. can give better ideas.
Tim
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Brame
> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:34 AM
> To: RV-List RV-List
> Subject: RV-List: Builder's Log Photos
>
>
> I am within days of getting my Air Worthiness Inspection. I have a
> pretty detailed builders log but NO photos of any kind.
>
> The fFAA AW Application Letter specifies log and photos.
>
> Has anybody applied for the inspection with no photos? Any comments
> from the feds?
>
> Charlie Brame
> RV-6A N11CB
> San Antonio
>
>
>
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Subject: | Garmin 496 - XM Antenna connector |
Hi Larry and RV-List,
So far no joy with Garmin. I've been trying to get Technical Support to
pass me up to someone with the answers but evidently Garmin doesn't know
anything about that antenna they sell and use.
To answer another question about this; I am not using the AirGizmo mount -
it uses too much height and its quality doesn't meet my standard. I have
designed and built my own mounting and the interference of this USB
connector is with the Garmin SL40 that resides right below the 496. My
question and predicament remain. Does anyone know if all 5 wires in the
Garmin GXM30A antenna are used ??? So far Garmin has been no help.
Larry E. James
Bellevue, WA
Super Decathlon
Rocket (under construction)
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Subject: | Re: Builder's Log Photos |
The photos are to help prove to the inspector that you actually built the
plane in order to get your repairman's certificate. Some inspectors would
prefer to see them, some will be happy with you providing other ways to
prove that you built at least 51% of it. Your log entrys should be plenty
enough proof. In my experience, it just depends on who you are working with
and how you get along with him. When I finished mine, I just had a few
photos from early in the project, and very few from much past the wing kit.
The inspector and I got along and it was no big deal.
Andy
Builder's Bookstore
www.buildersbooks.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Brame" <chasb@satx.rr.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 9:34 AM
Subject: RV-List: Builder's Log Photos
>
> I am within days of getting my Air Worthiness Inspection. I have a pretty
> detailed builders log but NO photos of any kind.
>
> The fFAA AW Application Letter specifies log and photos.
>
> Has anybody applied for the inspection with no photos? Any comments from
> the feds?
>
> Charlie Brame
> RV-6A N11CB
> San Antonio
>
>
>
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Subject: | Builder's Log Photos |
It depends on how friendly your AB-DAR is feeling that day. I've known
builders who didn't have a log but none that didn't have photos. Call him
before the inspection and ask.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Brame
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 11:34 AM
Subject: RV-List: Builder's Log Photos
I am within days of getting my Air Worthiness Inspection. I have a
pretty detailed builders log but NO photos of any kind.
The fFAA AW Application Letter specifies log and photos.
Has anybody applied for the inspection with no photos? Any comments
from the feds?
Charlie Brame
RV-6A N11CB
San Antonio
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Subject: | Re: Garmin 496 - XM Antenna connector |
Larry,
I've had similar experience. The mini-USB extension cables I bought
didn't work, which I presume is because they were only 4 wire.
Wikipedia's article on USB shows (IIRC) that one of the mini-USB pins is
normally not used.
If you do find a solution I'd be interested in hearing about it. I
don't like the interference associated with 90 degree XM connector on
the 496.
Tim
--
Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA)
RV-6A N47TD -- 900 hrs
RV-10 #40059 under construction
Larry James wrote:
>
> Hi Larry and RV-List,
>
> So far no joy with Garmin. I've been trying to get Technical Support
> to pass me up to someone with the answers but evidently Garmin doesn't
> know anything about that antenna they sell and use.
>
>
>
> To answer another question about this; I am not using the AirGizmo
> mount -- it uses too much height and its quality doesn't meet my
> standard. I have designed and built my own mounting and the
> interference of this USB connector is with the Garmin SL40 that
> resides right below the 496. My question and predicament remain.
> Does anyone know if all 5 wires in the Garmin GXM30A antenna are used
> ??? So far Garmin has been no help.
>
>
>
> Larry E. James
>
> Bellevue, WA
>
> Super Decathlon
>
> Rocket (under construction)
>
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
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Subject: | Re: Fuel selector structure |
Patrick;
You're right; this is one of those areas on the RV-6/6A where you are
pretty much left on your own and the parts supplied may or may not match
the plans.
Have a look at
<http://www.vansairforce.org/projects/okej/onephoto.cgi?Picture_0002.jpg>
for how I did mine in the early stages and then
<http://www.vansairforce.org/projects/okej/onephoto.cgi?Picture_0525.jpg>
for the final configuration.
My 683b's are held in place by the heads of the spar plate bolts. The
683 slides a bit to the rear to overhang the spar and then attaches with
three or so AN470-4s on each side. At least that's the way I did it. I
did not have anything connecting the 683bs to the cabin floor. In the
end I deleted the vertical channel with the throttle and mixture, etc.
and added a small half round plate to mount the manual trim cable. The
removable parts of the seat pans overlap the fuel selector mounting and
are notched to clear the F-683 and have a couple of screws going through
in it.
Try fitting the 683b sides to the 683 top first, clamp in place, adjust
the angles to get the holes centered in the flanges and then back drill
(carefully) through the spar bolt holes.
Good luck and happy building.
Jim Oke
Wpg., MB
RV-6A C-GKGZ
Patrick Kelley wrote:
>
> Ok, Im tired and Im probably just missing this. However, I cant
> seem to see anything other than a general depiction on Drawing 32
> (RV-6/6A) that shows how the F683 and F683b go together. (I hope I got
> the numbers right, Im going from tired memory.) My F683bs dont look
> like that, but I can attach them to the front of the spar as shown.
> How is the F683 supposed to attach? In the Orndorff video, George just
> uses an angle to attach it to the front of the seat/floor pan and I
> didnt spot the F683bs at all. Help, please.
>
> Patrick Kelley RV-6A Plumbing the fuel and brake systems
>
> *
>
> *
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Subject: | Re: Garmin 496 - XM Antenna connector |
Guys, Mouser has solderable Mini-USB-B plugs. I would just take a piece of
Cat5 cable and make your own cable with these plugs. Part # is
806-KMBX-BPKITST30.
USB cables have five pins but only four are used. I suspect Garmin is usin
g
the #4 pin for something else. Pins 2&3 are data, 1 is +5V and 5 is GND.
#4 is normally not used.
Regards,
Bob Japundza
RV-6 flying F1 under const.
On 5/8/07, Tim Lewis <Tim_Lewis@msm.umr.edu> wrote:
>
> Larry,
>
> I've had similar experience. The mini-USB extension cables I bought
> didn't work, which I presume is because they were only 4 wire. Wikipedia
's
> article on USB shows (IIRC) that one of the mini-USB pins is normally not
> used.
>
> If you do find a solution I'd be interested in hearing about it. I don't
> like the interference associated with 90 degree XM connector on the 496.
>
> Tim
>
> --
> Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA)
> RV-6A N47TD -- 900 hrs
> RV-10 #40059 under construction
>
>
> Larry James wrote:
>
> Hi Larry and RV-List,
>
> So far no joy with Garmin. I've been trying to get Technical Support to
> pass me up to someone with the answers but evidently Garmin doesn't know
> anything about that antenna they sell and use.
>
>
> To answer another question about this; I am not using the AirGizmo mount
'
> it uses too much height and its quality doesn't meet my standard. I have
> designed and built my own mounting and the interference of this USB
> connector is with the Garmin SL40 that resides right below the 496. My
> question and predicament remain. Does anyone know if all 5 wires in the
> Garmin GXM30A antenna are used ??? So far Garmin has been no help.
>
>
> Larry E. James
>
> Bellevue, WA
>
> Super Decathlon
>
> Rocket (under construction)
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
> *
>
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>
> *
>
>
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Subject: | N64PR First Flight |
Paul, can't wait to see some pictures! Congratulations.
John Jessen
40328
do not archive
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Rice
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:04 PM
Subject: RV-List: N64PR First Flight
Thanks to all who have provided me with info on this site. Today I flew my
RV8 with TMX-IO360 and Hartzell Constant speed prop for the first time.
Flew straight and level hands off, no adjustments needed. The acceleration
is amazing. Now on to the small finish items.
Paul Rice
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Subject: | Re: Builder's Log Photos |
He'll know in about 5 minutes if you built the plane or not. I've been told by
many inspectors while doing research for KitLog, that the pictures are best for
showing quality of work in things like wings before they were closed up. If
you kept detailed logs with ALOT of pictures, chances are they'll thumb through
a few and call it good. The detailed pictures really help later on when sharing
with builders at fly ins, resale value, etc. The most important thing
is, if you strayed from the plans in any way, and you can't show it outside the
aircraft, be sure you have well documented photos to prove your modification
would be airworthy and follows all standard construction practices.
Paul Besing
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Subject: | Builder's Log Photos |
The paper should have said phots and/or builder's logs. Anymore, there are
so many RV's around that most inspectors already know the airplane qualifi
es under the 51% rule. All the builder's logs are for is usually proof tow
ards the repairman's certificate. If you are using a DAR you are more like
ly to need the builder's logs. If you are using an FAA inspector he may b
e convinced enough that you did the work that he/she may not need the build
er's log. I know that it only takes me about 10 minutes of inspection and
talking to the builder to determine whether or not he did the work.
Mike Robertson
Das Fed
> From: n616tb@btsapps.com> To: rv-list@matronics.com> Subject: RE: RV-List
: Builder's Log Photos> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 10:43:03 -0500> > --> RV-List
message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <n616tb@btsapps.com>> > I didn't have a bui
lders log or photos and the Designate didn't even ask for> it. Another pers
on at the time told me I could just initial the plans where> appropriate. C
learly becomes a matter of the inspector you use. A log may> suffice.> > Ma
ybe Mike R. can give better ideas.> Tim> > > -----Original Message-----> >
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-> > server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Brame> > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:
34 AM> > To: RV-List RV-List> > Subject: RV-List: Builder's Log Photos> > >
I am within days of getting my Air Worthiness Inspection. I have a> > prett
y detailed builders log but NO photos of any kind.> > > > The fFAA AW Appli
cation Letter specifies log and photos.> > > > Has anybody applied for the
inspection with no photos? Any comments> > from the feds?> > > > Charlie Br
==> > >
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Subject: | Re: Aero Classic Oil Cooler (Get a SW) |
Why? It failed in short order and you want another Aero Classic?
I guess you could go to the company and demand a replacement.
I would step up to real man's cooler a SW cooler. It may cost twice
as much, but you get what you pay for.
>From: "JOHN HENLEY" <rv7plt@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Aero Classic Oil Cooler
>
>My oil cooler failed. Anyone have any idea who has the
>best price these days on Aero Classic coolers?
>
>John Henley, Rv7, 475 hrs
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Subject: | Re:N number requirements |
To Das Fed
aka Mike Robertson
Are there any other requirements for displaying the N number on the
fuselage of an Experimental aircraft other than; three inches high,
horizontal pattern located between trailing edge of wing and leading
edge of horizontal stab, and in a contrasting color?
Any minimum width of the stroke of the letters/numbers?
Thanks
Dale Ensing
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Subject: | Compressor & Painting Questions |
I'm equipping my paint booth and have come up with some
questions.
I'm planning on buying the DeVilbiss FinishLine 3 HVLP spray
gun.
This gun takes more air than my little 2hp compressor can
deliver so
I'm going to buy a bigger one.
I'm choosing between the Kobalt 60 gallon single stage from
Lowes or
the Husky Pro 60 gallon single stage from Home Depot. Both
have
15 amp 230 volt motors. The Kobalt has better specs as far
as
SCFM is concerned. The pump has a cast iron case and
cylinder
(though the cylinder head appears to be aluminum). It is a
single
cylinder pump. The Husky Pro has a two cylinder compressor,
but
the cylinders are aluminum with supposedly an iron or steel
sleeve.
The Kobalt gives a noise rating of 76dBa which seems fairly
quiet for
a compressor of this size. Both cost $400. I would
probably just
choose the Kobalt, but there are some horror stories on the
internet
about problems with Kobalt compressors and getting them
serviced.
1) Anybody out there have experience with either of these
compressors?
Things you like? Things you dislike?
2) My painting area is quite a ways away from where I have
230Volt power.
I was originally planning to buy a 100 foot 10 gauge
extension cord, cut
off the ends, and wire it to the compressor and a plug
that fits my 230
outlets. Those cords are almost $100 right now! I
already have 100 feet of
3/8" I.D. air hose. Will I have any problems running an
HVLP gun
off 100 feet of air hose?
3) I could bring my old compressor into my paint booth and
use it's 20
gallon tank as a more local air storage tank. Would
this help any
problems associated with using 100 feet of air hose?
Thanks for your help. I'm getting close to starting the
painting process!
Doug Medema
RV-6A N276DM
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Subject: | Unfourtunately it's time to sell my RV6 |
Health issues have restricted use of my "6" and finally have made it
almost impossible to continue flying.
It was completed in 2001 has 260 hr. TT with 190 SMOH on the 0360A3M
with Electroair Ignition,new slick mag and a just overhauled Whirlwind
151 3 blade prop, Wolf air/oil separator Chrome Valve covers and
intake tubes, Just annualed, and more
CUSTOM FEATURES includes:--Center fuel tank(12.5 gal). All carbon
fiber tilt canopy structure with special locking access door. Easy
removable extended engine air snorkel. Carbon fiber extended vertical
fin. Bonded on composite gear leg and intersection Fairing. Special
ventilation and heater system with dual muffs, boots on all push rods
including flaps and a custom air extractor, means you will be warm or
cool, you decide. 3 density Temperfoam seats with lambs wool covering,
Single Link tailwheel steering,Carbon fiber elevator intersection
fairing, Vortex Generators, Baggage cover, heavy duty canopy cover,
Special floor and cockpit insulation, and more. ELECTRICAL:-
-B&C 40
amp alt and adjustable reg, 2 new B&C 12 Amp/Hr 400 CCA sealed bats
with either or both switching. Over voltage protection, Port on panel
for alternator diagnostics, battery charging port. Electric flaps,
electric elevator and aileron trim, stabs, dual landing lights with
wig wag setting and more.
PANEL:--MicroAir transponder and dual MicroAir radios, intercom with
built in noise canceling headsets(2) Rocky Mnt Uencoder & Umonitor for
engine, ECI CHT/EGT analiser, ECI dual Fuel gauge, Bendix King color
GPS, True Track auto pilot, AOA with voice warning, Dynon D10A Efis
just factory upgraded, left side throttle/mixtue/prop, controls, G
meter, Parking brake, Electonic ignition advance gauge, Sony FM/CD
player, Glove box, Wood grain accents, and more
It has always been hangered in dry climate area(last four years Paso
Robles). The only thing she needs is a paint job,It has been primered
since I first started flying. Yes, Laird you are right you should
always paint BEFORE flying. This is my baby and I'm going to miss her,
hoping to find her a good home. I'm posting it with you guys and the
Matronics List before I go to Trade A Plane. So the big question is
how much? Any help would be appreciated.
Garry "Casper" LeGare
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Subject: | Re: Compressor & Painting Questions |
Doug Medema wrote:
> I'm equipping my paint booth and have come up with some questions.
> I'm planning on buying the DeVilbiss FinishLine 3 HVLP spray gun.
> This gun takes more air than my little 2hp compressor can deliver so
> I'm going to buy a bigger one.
>
> I'm choosing between the Kobalt 60 gallon single stage from Lowes or
> the Husky Pro 60 gallon single stage from Home Depot.
I'd stay away from single cykinder single stage compressors. they'll
run a lot longer with the attendant noise .... whatever it is!
> Both have
> 15 amp 230 volt motors. The Kobalt has better specs as far as
> SCFM is concerned. The pump has a cast iron case and cylinder
> (though the cylinder head appears to be aluminum). It is a single
> cylinder pump. The Husky Pro has a two cylinder compressor, but
> the cylinders are aluminum with supposedly an iron or steel sleeve.
> The Kobalt gives a noise rating of 76dBa which seems fairly quiet for
> a compressor of this size. Both cost $400. I would probably just
> choose the Kobalt, but there are some horror stories on the internet
> about problems with Kobalt compressors and getting them serviced.
>
> 1) Anybody out there have experience with either of these compressors?
> Things you like? Things you dislike?
No experience with either. I have a two stage 60 gal compressor from
Home depot ..... around $350 a few years back. It's worked well with
everything I've thrown at it.
> 2) My painting area is quite a ways away from where I have 230Volt power.
> I was originally planning to buy a 100 foot 10 gauge extension
> cord, cut
> off the ends, and wire it to the compressor and a plug that fits
> my 230
> outlets. Those cords are almost $100 right now! I already have
> 100 feet of
> 3/8" I.D. air hose. Will I have any problems running an HVLP gun
> off 100 feet of air hose?
Buy a 100' box of #10 romex. Hell of a lot cheaper than the extension
cord and will work fine.
> 3) I could bring my old compressor into my paint booth and use it's 20
> gallon tank as a more local air storage tank. Would this help any
> problems associated with using 100 feet of air hose?
Actually, it will. The hose will stretch in size at full pressure, and
the pressure will drop significantly in the first few seconds of paint
spraying. The built-in regulator will help too.
> Thanks for your help. I'm getting close to starting the painting process!
Well it's just my opinion, but I think you'll be far ahead of the game
with the romex and the two stage compressor near your painting project.
Linn
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> Doug Medema
> RV-6A N276DM
>
>
> 2:23 PM
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