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1. 05:44 AM - Re: Where to put the fuel flow sensor (Chris Brooks)
2. 06:06 AM - Re: RV-9 Certified As E-LSA (Matt Jurotich)
3. 06:29 AM - Re: Where to put the fuel flow sensor (Ralph E. Capen)
4. 06:50 AM - Re: RV-9 Certified As E-LSA (Mike Robertson)
5. 07:01 AM - Re: RV-9 Certified As E-LSA (Mike Robertson)
6. 10:09 AM - Re: RV-9 Certified As E-LSA (jbker@juno.com)
7. 03:33 PM - Which Plugs? (Ron Brown)
8. 04:53 PM - Re: Which Plugs? (Doug Weiler)
9. 05:33 PM - Re: Which Plugs? (Bob J.)
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| Subject: | Re: Where to put the fuel flow sensor |
I have the fuel flow sensor mounted in my left wing root, after the gascola
tor. My fuel boost pump is mounted in the center console beneath the select
or valve. I wanted my boost pump as close to the tanks as possible. Haven'
t had any problems yet with the flowscan between the pumps. 220hrs
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: RV-9 Certified As E-LSA |
Build your airplane as an experimental and set the gross weight at
1320 or less and put on a prop that maxs top speed at 120 knots.
Then a certificated pilot with a medical can fly it as experimental
amateur built and LSA pilot can fly it as an LSA. Just like a 1946
Aeronca Champ!
Matthew M. Jurotich
e-mail mail to: <mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov>
phone : 301-286-5919
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| Subject: | Re: Where to put the fuel flow sensor |
Chris,
Does that mean that you're only getting fuel flow from one wing?
-----Original Message-----
>From: Chris Brooks <brooksrv6@hotmail.com>
>Sent: May 15, 2007 8:42 AM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Where to put the fuel flow sensor
>
>
>I have the fuel flow sensor mounted in my left wing root, after the gascolator.
My fuel boost pump is mounted in the center console beneath the selector valve.
I wanted my boost pump as close to the tanks as possible. Haven't had any
problems yet with the flowscan between the pumps. 220hrs
>
>Chris
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| Subject: | RV-9 Certified As E-LSA |
Sorry, Someone distracted me right when I was typing this. You are correct
. It is 45 knots.
Mike
> From: khorton01@rogers.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-9 Certified As E-LSA
> Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 20:20:30 -0400> To: rv-list@matronics.com> > --> R
V-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>> > Where did
the 39 kt stall requirement come from? The light sport > aircraft definitio
n in FAR 1.1 says 45 kt stall, without the use of > lift-enhancing devices.
> > Kevin Horton> > On 14 May 2007, at 16:30, Mike Robertson wrote:> > > Ha
wk,> >> > it is not supposed to be a discrepancy. Category 1 that you talk
> > about is for existing light-sport aircraft. That has created > > somewh
at of a loophole. It was designed for existing ultra-lights, > > but also w
as meant to include those folks already building an > > otherwise amateur-b
uilt aircraft at the time this new rule took > > effect that have not had t
he chance to get a letter of compliance > > from the manf. but otherwise me
t the rule/definition of a light- > > sport aircraft. If the builder of an
RV-9 was able to convince an > > inspector that his aircraft could not/woul
d not go faster than 120 > > kts in cruise and could stall at 39 knots or l
ess then he was > > eligible for an experimental light-sport certificate. T
he up side > > is he can operate it with only a driver's license instead of
a > > medical and will get away with a few less flight test hours. The > >
down side is he will have to go to a 16 hour school somewhere in > > order
to qualify for the repairman cert.> >> > Mike Robertson> > Das Fed> > From
: hawk@compuplus.net> > To: rv-list@matronics.com> > Subject: RV-List: RV-9
Certified As E-LSA> > Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 22:49:50 -0600> >> > A curren
t thread in Doug Reeve's VAF Forums (and a First-Flight > > report on Van's
site) concerns the certification of an RV-9 in the > > ELSA Category. I ca
n't find any reference to the mechanism of > > such a certification in the
Final Rule on SP/LSA published by the > > FAA. Indeed, all the references I
have run across support Ron > > Wanttaja's summary in his May 2005 'Kitpla
nes' article:> >> > "There are three basic ways an aircraft can receive an
ELSA > > airworthiness certificate: (1) conversion of a former two-seat > >
ultralight trainer (through early 2008), (2) construction of the > > aircr
aft from an ELSA kit or plans, and (3) conversion of an > > existing SLSA.>
>> > It takes no FAA approval to put together an Ex/AB kit to sell to > >
other builders. A potential ELSA manufacturer, however, must build > > a pr
ototype aircraft, ensure it meets the LSA concensus standards, > > pass the
FAA inspection and receive the SLSA certificate. At that > > point, the ma
nufacturer can either begin producing ready-to-fly > > SLSAs or ELSA kits."
> >> > Can anyone comment on this apparent discrepancy, particularly from >
=================> > >
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| Subject: | RV-9 Certified As E-LSA |
Charlie,
After January 31, 2008 you last paragraph is exactly what will happen. In
order for a kit manufacturer to issue a letter of compliance he must have s
ubmitted the design to the Standardization board to proof compliance and ha
ve received concurrence from them. Even under the current rules, any aircr
aft that meets the requirements of a light-sport aircraft under FAR 1 may b
e operated as a light-sport aircraft. With that in mind then a person with
a private license and a current medical could be operating IFR one day, th
en the next day when his medical expires he could operating the exact same
aircraft as a light-sport providing it meets the definition.
Mike Robertson
> Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 19:24:19 -0500> From: ceengland@bellsouth.net> To:
rv-list@matronics.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-9 Certified As E-LSA> > --
i Mike,> > The info below seems to imply one of two things. Either there's
an easy > out, since the builder is the manufacturer, or we are sliding dow
n that > slippery slope where parts sellers become manufacturers, with all
the > legal/liability ramifications.> > If I build the a/c, shouldn't I, as
the manufacturer, be the one to > supply the letter of compliance?> > If I
scratch build a Cub or Taylorcraft-like plane from plans, who will > be ab
le to supply the letter of compliance?> > Or are you saying that the plane
would simply be an experimental > (instead of E-LSA) with gross weight & to
p speed set to comply with the > LSA limits, then we can operate that plane
under LSA rules?> > Thanks,> > Charlie> > Mike Robertson wrote:> > > > > >
> > Bernie,> > > > You were not mislead under the current rules. BUT, afte
r January 31, > > 2008 there is going to be some changes. On that date the
category 1 > > existing aircraft certification possibilities will go away.
After that > > date you will have to prove that the aircraft is LSA complia
nt, be it a > > kit or pre-built, via a letter of compliance from the aircr
aft > > manufacturer. So if you have an aircraft you want to get into LSA,
you > > better get on the stick.> > > > Now, with that being said, that wil
l not change anything about operating > > an aircraft under the LSA rules,
just the certification rules.> > > > Mike Robertson> > > > ----------------
--------------------------------------------------------> > From: jbker@jun
o.com> > Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 21:57:08 +0000> > To: rv-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: RV-List: RV-9 Certified As E-LSA> > > > Mike,> > I was giv
en the opinion at SnF by both the FAA and EAA that there> > was no distinct
ion on FAA records whether an amateur built exp was> > an airplane or a LSA
. Also that there was nothing that a kit builder> > did to say which is was
and it was up to the builder to decide if it> > qualified as an LSA to be
flown by a driver's license medical pilot.> > Was I mislead??> > Bernie Ker
=======================> > >
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| Subject: | RV-9 Certified As E-LSA |
Mike,
I must be ready for LSA , I'm more confused now. Lets only talk about af
ter Jan 31/08 since the 12 kit will not be out until about that date :>)
Will there be 3 categories of LSA? 1.Amateur built aircraft that meet L
SA standards as certified by the builder 2. ELSA that will be certifie
d by the FAA as LSA qualified and has to be built with no mods 3. LSA r
eady to fly aircraft
This is the way it was explained by Van at his 12 forum without mention
of Jan 31/08.
Please help this senile ol' man out!
Bernie
<html><P>Mike,</P>
<P>I must be ready for LSA , I'm more confused now. Lets only talk about
after Jan 31/08 since the 12 kit will not be out until about that date
:>)</P>
<P>Will there be 3 categories of LSA? 1.Amateur built aircraft tha
t meet LSA standards as certified by the builder 2. ELSA tha
t will be certified by the FAA as LSA qualified and has to be built with
no mods 3. LSA ready to fly aircraft</P>
<P>This is the way it was explained by Van at his 12 forum without menti
on of Jan 31/08.</P>
<P>Please help this senile ol' man out!</P>
<P>Bernie</P>
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I need to buy a new set of plugs for my IO360 C1C - 200 HP.
I have a Jeff Rose Electroair on the bottom plugs (REM37BY) - and a
Slick mag on the top plugs (REM38E). I've got 350 hours on them,
cleaned and regapped them during the condition inspection which I
finished yesterday - but now I've got some plugs that aren't firing
100%. (Some times it doesn't pay to fix things that aren't broken!!! -
it ran like a top all the way to Lakeland and back!)
I would like to use the NKG plugs that Klaus recommends with inserts.
The inserts are pricey but sure saves money down the road - but I need
to know what plugs to use?
THANKS,
Ronnie
Velocity 173 Elite RG (well I do have a set of RV-6A plans! but I didn't
stay in the Holiday Inn Express)
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| Subject: | Re: Which Plugs? |
I used the plugs that Lightspeed recommends:
http://www.lsecorp.com/Products/Sparkplugs.htm
I run a dual Lightspeed system and after 100 hours it has been totally
issue-free.
Doug Weiler
RV-4 N722DW
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From: Ron Brown
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 5:22 PM
Subject: RV-List: Which Plugs?
I need to buy a new set of plugs for my IO360 C1C - 200 HP.
I have a Jeff Rose Electroair on the bottom plugs (REM37BY) - and a
Slick mag on the top plugs (REM38E). I've got 350 hours on them,
cleaned and regapped them during the condition inspection which I
finished yesterday - but now I've got some plugs that aren't firing
100%. (Some times it doesn't pay to fix things that aren't broken!!! -
it ran like a top all the way to Lakeland and back!)
I would like to use the NKG plugs that Klaus recommends with inserts.
The inserts are pricey but sure saves money down the road - but I need
to know what plugs to use?
THANKS,
Ronnie
Velocity 173 Elite RG (well I do have a set of RV-6A plans! but I
didn't stay in the Holiday Inn Express)
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| Subject: | Re: Which Plugs? |
NGK BR9ES, about $1.50 or so at your local autoparts store. Spruce has the
adapters. Your problems will disappear running the NGK plugs. They last
forever too.
Regards,
Bob Japundza
RV-6 flying F1 under const.
On 5/15/07, Ron Brown <romott@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
> I need to buy a new set of plugs for my IO360 C1C - 200 HP.
>
> I have a Jeff Rose Electroair on the bottom plugs (REM37BY) - and a Slick
> mag on the top plugs (REM38E). I've got 350 hours on them, cleaned and
> regapped them during the condition inspection which I finished yesterday -
> but now I've got some plugs that aren't firing 100%. (Some times it doesn't
> pay to fix things that aren't broken!!! - it ran like a top all the way to
> Lakeland and back!)
>
> I would like to use the NKG plugs that Klaus recommends with inserts.
> The inserts are pricey but sure saves money down the road - but I need to
> know what plugs to use?
>
> THANKS,
>
> Ronnie
>
> Velocity 173 Elite RG (well I do have a set of RV-6A plans! but I didn't
> stay in the Holiday Inn Express)
>
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