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1. 06:47 AM - Re: Where to put the fuel flow sensor (Chris Brooks)
2. 06:54 AM - Re: RV-9 Certified As E-LSA (Mike Robertson)
3. 07:03 AM - Re: Unfourtunately it's time to sell my RV6 (RaNDY Frost)
4. 07:14 AM - Re: Where to put the fuel flow sensor (Ralph E. Capen)
5. 07:30 AM - Re: Which Plugs? (Eric Whiteside)
6. 08:03 AM - Re: Where to put the fuel flow sensor (Dwight Frye)
7. 08:36 AM - Re: Where to put the fuel flow sensor (Ralph E. Capen)
8. 06:36 PM - Re: Which Plugs? (dick martin)
9. 06:38 PM - NGK Plugs Types (John Fasching)
10. 07:06 PM - Re: NGK Plugs Types (John Fasching)
11. 07:14 PM - Re: NGK Plugs Types (Bob J.)
12. 08:37 PM - Re: NGK Plugs Types (Bob J.)
13. 09:19 PM - Re: Where to put the fuel flow sensor (Dave Cudney)
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| Subject: | Re: Where to put the fuel flow sensor |
... Chris, Does that mean that you're only getting fuel flow fr
om one wing?... No, The Flowscan is installed after the Fuel selector
valve and gascolator. It's located in the area between the wing root rib, a
nd the fuselage.
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| Subject: | RV-9 Certified As E-LSA |
Bernie,
Keep in mind that anything is subject to change. But, as the rule appears
right now the first category for ELSA will go away entirely after January 3
1, 2008. After that only category 2 and category 3 will remain.
Please bear in mind that this is for CERTIFICATION in ELSA. It does not no
w, nor will it later, effect the flying. No matter what category an aircra
ft is certificated in (LSA, AMA-BLT, STD), as long as the aircraft meats th
e definition of an LSA aircraft in FAR 1, a person may fly that aircraft un
der the Light-Sport rules.
Mike Robertson
From: jbker@juno.comDate: Tue, 15 May 2007 17:06:17 +0000To: rv-list@matron
ics.comSubject: RE: RV-List: RV-9 Certified As E-LSA
Mike,
I must be ready for LSA , I'm more confused now. Lets only talk about after
Jan 31/08 since the 12 kit will not be out until about that date :>)
Will there be 3 categories of LSA? 1.Amateur built aircraft that meet LSA
standards as certified by the builder 2. ELSA that will be certified by t
he FAA as LSA qualified and has to be built with no mods 3. LSA ready to f
ly aircraft
This is the way it was explained by Van at his 12 forum without mention of
Jan 31/08.
Please help this senile ol' man out!
Bernie
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| Subject: | Unfourtunately it's time to sell my RV6 |
I'm interested. Any Photos?
Broad River 3GE3
>From: Garry LeGare <garry@versadek.com>
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: Unfourtunately it's time to sell my RV6
>Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 19:40:44 -0700
>
> Health issues have restricted use of my "6" and finally have made it
>almost impossible to continue flying.
>It was completed in 2001 has 260 hr. TT with 190 SMOH on the 0360A3M
>with Electroair Ignition,new slick mag and a just overhauled Whirlwind
>151 3 blade prop, Wolf air/oil separator Chrome Valve covers and
>intake tubes, Just annualed, and more
>CUSTOM FEATURES includes:--Center fuel tank(12.5 gal). All carbon
>fiber tilt canopy structure with special locking access door. Easy
>removable extended engine air snorkel. Carbon fiber extended vertical
>fin. Bonded on composite gear leg and intersection Fairing. Special
>ventilation and heater system with dual muffs, boots on all push rods
>including flaps and a custom air extractor, means you will be warm or
>cool, you decide. 3 density Temperfoam seats with lambs wool covering,
>Single Link tailwheel steering,Carbon fiber elevator intersection
>fairing, Vortex Generators, Baggage cover, heavy duty canopy cover,
>Special floor and cockpit insulation, and more. ELECTRICAL:-
>
>-B&C 40
>amp alt and adjustable reg, 2 new B&C 12 Amp/Hr 400 CCA sealed bats
>with either or both switching. Over voltage protection, Port on panel
>for alternator diagnostics, battery charging port. Electric flaps,
>electric elevator and aileron trim, stabs, dual landing lights with
>wig wag setting and more.
>PANEL:--MicroAir transponder and dual MicroAir radios, intercom with
>built in noise canceling headsets(2) Rocky Mnt Uencoder & Umonitor for
>engine, ECI CHT/EGT analiser, ECI dual Fuel gauge, Bendix King color
>GPS, True Track auto pilot, AOA with voice warning, Dynon D10A Efis
>just factory upgraded, left side throttle/mixtue/prop, controls, G
>meter, Parking brake, Electonic ignition advance gauge, Sony FM/CD
>player, Glove box, Wood grain accents, and more
>It has always been hangered in dry climate area(last four years Paso
>Robles). The only thing she needs is a paint job,It has been primered
>since I first started flying. Yes, Laird you are right you should
>always paint BEFORE flying. This is my baby and I'm going to miss her,
>hoping to find her a good home. I'm posting it with you guys and the
>Matronics List before I go to Trade A Plane. So the big question is
>how much? Any help would be appreciated.
>Garry "Casper" LeGare
>
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| Subject: | Re: Where to put the fuel flow sensor |
That adds a little to my confusion....
If I understand your setup correctly, fuel comes in to the fuse from both wings,
to the selector, to the gascolator, then back out to the wing for the flowscan,
then back through to the engine....?
-----Original Message-----
>From: Chris Brooks <brooksrv6@hotmail.com>
>Sent: May 16, 2007 9:46 AM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Where to put the fuel flow sensor
>
>
> ... Chris, Does that mean that you're only getting fuel flow from
one wing?... No, The Flowscan is installed after the Fuel selector valve
and gascolator. It's located in the area between the wing root rib, and the fuselage.
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Ron, I have been running the same setup for 600+ hours without any ignition
problems.
Since yours ran 350 hours without problems, you might be better off
diagnosing the
current problem before changing plug type. Your current problem may or may
not be in the plug(s).
If the problem started when you performed the maintenance, check for an
ignition lead inadvertently
damaged, incorrect gap setting, or a ceramic insulator cracked during
gapping or handling.
Eric Whiteside
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron Brown
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 6:22 PM
Subject: RV-List: Which Plugs?
I need to buy a new set of plugs for my IO360 C1C - 200 HP.
I have a Jeff Rose Electroair on the bottom plugs (REM37BY) - and a Slick
mag on the top plugs (REM38E). I've got 350 hours on them, cleaned and
regapped them during the condition inspection which I finished yesterday -
but now I've got some plugs that aren't firing 100%. (Some times it doesn't
pay to fix things that aren't broken!!! - it ran like a top all the way to
Lakeland and back!)
I would like to use the NKG plugs that Klaus recommends with inserts. The
inserts are pricey but sure saves money down the road - but I need to know
what plugs to use?
THANKS,
Ronnie
Velocity 173 Elite RG (well I do have a set of RV-6A plans! but I didn't
stay in the Holiday Inn Express)
"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List"http://www.matronics.com/Navigat
or?RV-List
10:47 AM
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| Subject: | Re: Where to put the fuel flow sensor |
Just FYI ... Don Rivera at Airflow Performance recommends installing it
after the fuel controller and before the flow divider. This is on the feed
line that is often routed vertically between two cylinders. The FlowScan
goes inline and is then covered in firesleeve. It is a simple installation,
adds no restrictions on the suction side of any pump, and has proved to be
a very reliable approach according to what Don has passed on to me (and
others who have asked). It is what I intend to do, for what *THAT* is worth!
-- Dwight
do not archive (since this info is already there)
On Wed May 16 10:13:56 2007, Ralph E. Capen wrote :
>That adds a little to my confusion....
>
>If I understand your setup correctly, fuel comes in to the fuse from both wings,
to the selector, to the gascolator, then back out to the wing for the flowscan,
then back through to the engine....?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Chris Brooks <brooksrv6@hotmail.com>
>>Sent: May 16, 2007 9:46 AM
>>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Re: RV-List: Where to put the fuel flow sensor
>>
>>
>> ... Chris, Does that mean that you're only getting fuel flow from
one wing?... No, The Flowscan is installed after the Fuel selector valve
and gascolator. It's located in the area between the wing root rib, and the fuselage.
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| Subject: | Re: Where to put the fuel flow sensor |
Dwight,
I've done mine the way Don has recommended also - I was confused by Chris' configuration.....
Ralph
-----Original Message-----
>From: Dwight Frye <dwight@openweave.org>
>Sent: May 16, 2007 11:22 AM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Where to put the fuel flow sensor
>
>
>Just FYI ... Don Rivera at Airflow Performance recommends installing it
>after the fuel controller and before the flow divider. This is on the feed
>line that is often routed vertically between two cylinders. The FlowScan
>goes inline and is then covered in firesleeve. It is a simple installation,
>adds no restrictions on the suction side of any pump, and has proved to be
>a very reliable approach according to what Don has passed on to me (and
>others who have asked). It is what I intend to do, for what *THAT* is worth!
>
> -- Dwight
>
>do not archive (since this info is already there)
>
>On Wed May 16 10:13:56 2007, Ralph E. Capen wrote :
>>That adds a little to my confusion....
>>
>>If I understand your setup correctly, fuel comes in to the fuse from both wings,
to the selector, to the gascolator, then back out to the wing for the flowscan,
then back through to the engine....?
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Chris Brooks <brooksrv6@hotmail.com>
>>>Sent: May 16, 2007 9:46 AM
>>>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>>>Subject: Re: RV-List: Where to put the fuel flow sensor
>>>
>>>
>>> ... Chris, Does that mean that you're only getting fuel flow from
one wing?... No, The Flowscan is installed after the Fuel selector valve
and gascolator. It's located in the area between the wing root rib, and the
fuselage.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Which Plugs? |
Ron,
I use Nippon Denso 27ESRU. I was able to achieve better performance
over the NGK plugs I used previously.
RV8, IO-390. 1500 plus hours, dual lightspeed igns.
Dick Martin
RV8 N233M
the fast one
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Brown
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 5:22 PM
Subject: RV-List: Which Plugs?
I need to buy a new set of plugs for my IO360 C1C - 200 HP.
I have a Jeff Rose Electroair on the bottom plugs (REM37BY) - and a
Slick mag on the top plugs (REM38E). I've got 350 hours on them,
cleaned and regapped them during the condition inspection which I
finished yesterday - but now I've got some plugs that aren't firing
100%. (Some times it doesn't pay to fix things that aren't broken!!! -
it ran like a top all the way to Lakeland and back!)
I would like to use the NKG plugs that Klaus recommends with inserts.
The inserts are pricey but sure saves money down the road - but I need
to know what plugs to use?
THANKS,
Ronnie
Velocity 173 Elite RG (well I do have a set of RV-6A plans! but I
didn't stay in the Holiday Inn Express)
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I lost info on the difference between NGK BR9ES and BR8ES spark plugs. I
'think" I have used both at one time or another with LSE EI, but am now
seeking specs on the difference...help anyone?
John
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| Subject: | Re: NGK Plugs Types |
John Fasching wrote:
>
> I lost info on the difference between NGK BR9ES and BR8ES spark plugs.
> I 'think" I have used both at one time or another with LSE EI, but am
> now seeking specs on the difference...help anyone?
>
> John
OK I found the data...the "9" are a higher temperature plug...the NKG's
are rated 2 for coolest and 11 for the hottest. Seems snow mobilers and
boaters know a lot about plugs.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: NGK Plugs Types |
The higher the number the colder the plug. If the plugs get carbon built up
on them they are too cold, if they're too hot they show signs of erosion.
Regards,
Bob Japundza
RV-6 flying F1 under const.
On 5/16/07, John Fasching <n1cxo320@salidaco.com> wrote:
>
>
> I lost info on the difference between NGK BR9ES and BR8ES spark plugs. I
> 'think" I have used both at one time or another with LSE EI, but am now
> seeking specs on the difference...help anyone?
>
> John
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: NGK Plugs Types |
NGK's go colder at the number goes up, opposite of Champions. If you take a
look at the BR8ES plugs vs. the BR9ES plugs, the BR9ES have a shorter
electrode, hence they're colder. I've use either in the RV with no
problems.
http://www.kaila.net/tl125/tl125ngkcode.html
Regards,
Bob Japundza
RV-6 flying F1 under const.
On 5/16/07, John Fasching <n1cxo320@salidaco.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> John Fasching wrote:
> >
> > I lost info on the difference between NGK BR9ES and BR8ES spark plugs.
> > I 'think" I have used both at one time or another with LSE EI, but am
> > now seeking specs on the difference...help anyone?
> >
> > John
>
> OK I found the data...the "9" are a higher temperature plug...the NKG's
> are rated 2 for coolest and 11 for the hottest. Seems snow mobilers and
> boaters know a lot about plugs.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Where to put the fuel flow sensor |
Dwight:
Did you just mount the sensor by parting the line from the contoller
before it goes up between cyls 1 and 3 or did you
re route the line and attach the sensor to the baffling etc. A
picture or more complete description would really be helpful.
thanks Dave
On May 16, 2007, at 8:22 AM, Dwight Frye wrote:
>
> Just FYI ... Don Rivera at Airflow Performance recommends
> installing it
> after the fuel controller and before the flow divider. This is on
> the feed
> line that is often routed vertically between two cylinders. The
> FlowScan
> goes inline and is then covered in firesleeve. It is a simple
> installation,
> adds no restrictions on the suction side of any pump, and has
> proved to be
> a very reliable approach according to what Don has passed on to me
> (and
> others who have asked). It is what I intend to do, for what *THAT*
> is worth!
>
> -- Dwight
>
> do not archive (since this info is already there)
>
> On Wed May 16 10:13:56 2007, Ralph E. Capen wrote :
>
>> That adds a little to my confusion....
>>
>> If I understand your setup correctly, fuel comes in to the fuse
>> from both wings, to the selector, to the gascolator, then back out
>> to the wing for the flowscan, then back through to the engine....?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>>> From: Chris Brooks <brooksrv6@hotmail.com>
>>> Sent: May 16, 2007 9:46 AM
>>> To: rv-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Re: RV-List: Where to put the fuel flow sensor
>>>
>>>
>>> ... Chris, Does that mean that you're only getting
>>> fuel flow from one wing?... No, The Flowscan is installed
>>> after the Fuel selector valve and gascolator. It's located in the
>>> area between the wing root rib, and the fuselage.
>>>
>
>
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