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1. 04:56 AM - Re: Where to put the fuel flow sensor (Ralph E. Capen)
2. 05:38 AM - Re: Where to put the fuel flow sensor (Chris Brooks)
3. 06:17 AM - Hangar at Morco Island ()
4. 06:21 AM - Re: Where to put the fuel flow sensor (Ralph E. Capen)
5. 06:42 AM - Re: Hangar at Morco Island (eddyfernan@aol.com)
6. 06:58 AM - Re: Hangar at Morco Island (ronschreck)
7. 08:36 AM - Southeast Hose bows out (Bill Boyd)
8. 08:40 AM - Re: NGK Plugs Types (Bill Boyd)
9. 08:52 AM - Re: Southeast Hose bows out (Bruce Gray)
10. 09:01 AM - Re: Southeast Hose bows out (Bruce Gray)
11. 09:17 AM - Re: Southeast Hose bows out (Bill Boyd)
12. 09:19 AM - Re: Southeast Hose bows out (Bill Boyd)
13. 09:23 AM - Re: Which Plugs? (Bill Boyd)
14. 09:29 AM - Re: Southeast Hose bows out (Dale Ensing)
15. 09:51 AM - Re: Southeast Hose bows out (Bruce Gray)
16. 09:52 AM - Re: Southeast Hose bows out (Brian Meyette)
17. 10:09 AM - Re: Southeast Hose bows out (Bob J.)
18. 10:33 AM - Re: Where to put the fuel flow sensor (Dwight Frye)
19. 10:49 AM - Re: NGK Plugs Types (John Fasching)
20. 11:30 AM - Re: Southeast Hose bows out (Ed Anderson)
21. 12:57 PM - Re: Southeast Hose bows out (Bill Boyd)
22. 01:10 PM - Re: Southeast Hose bows out (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
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| Subject: | Re: Where to put the fuel flow sensor |
I'd like to see the pictures too - to compare to my planned fuel line routing.....
-----Original Message-----
>From: Dave Cudney <yenduc@sbcglobal.net>
>Sent: May 17, 2007 12:17 AM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Where to put the fuel flow sensor
>
>
>Dwight:
>
>Did you just mount the sensor by parting the line from the contoller
>before it goes up between cyls 1 and 3 or did you
>re route the line and attach the sensor to the baffling etc. A
>picture or more complete description would really be helpful.
>
>thanks Dave
>
>
>On May 16, 2007, at 8:22 AM, Dwight Frye wrote:
>
>>
>> Just FYI ... Don Rivera at Airflow Performance recommends
>> installing it
>> after the fuel controller and before the flow divider. This is on
>> the feed
>> line that is often routed vertically between two cylinders. The
>> FlowScan
>> goes inline and is then covered in firesleeve. It is a simple
>> installation,
>> adds no restrictions on the suction side of any pump, and has
>> proved to be
>> a very reliable approach according to what Don has passed on to me
>> (and
>> others who have asked). It is what I intend to do, for what *THAT*
>> is worth!
>>
>> -- Dwight
>>
>> do not archive (since this info is already there)
>>
>> On Wed May 16 10:13:56 2007, Ralph E. Capen wrote :
>>
>>> That adds a little to my confusion....
>>>
>>> If I understand your setup correctly, fuel comes in to the fuse
>>> from both wings, to the selector, to the gascolator, then back out
>>> to the wing for the flowscan, then back through to the engine....?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>>> From: Chris Brooks <brooksrv6@hotmail.com>
>>>> Sent: May 16, 2007 9:46 AM
>>>> To: rv-list@matronics.com
>>>> Subject: Re: RV-List: Where to put the fuel flow sensor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ... Chris, Does that mean that you're only getting
>>>> fuel flow from one wing?... No, The Flowscan is installed
>>>> after the Fuel selector valve and gascolator. It's located in the
>>>> area between the wing root rib, and the fuselage.
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Where to put the fuel flow sensor |
That's the sequence but the gascolator is also in the wing root. The fuel p
ump sits under the selector valve, putting it close to the tanks and gettin
g it off the sidewall where I didn't like the looks. The Andair gascolator
is in the wing root and is the lowest point in my fuel system. Being in the
wing root it doesn't get heat soaked. It has a 70 micron filter built in t
hat should keep debris from the flowscan also in the wing root. After the F
lowscan the line comes back into the fuselage and out the firewall. I have
a carburator, Not F.I.
I have considered moving my Floscan and plumbing it between the engine dri
ven pump and Carb to put it on the pressure side of the pump. But to answer
your original question it has worked flawlessly mounted prior to the engin
e driven pump.
Chris
>>>If I understand your setup correctly, fuel comes in to the fuse from bot
h wings, to the selector, to the gascolator, then back out to the wing
for the flowscan, then back through to the engine....?<<<
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| Subject: | Hangar at Morco Island |
I may need to fly down to Marco Island, FL this weekend to fly some Air Attack
missions in support of the wildfires. I would like to fly my RV-8 down there
but don't want to leave it on the ramp. If any of you have hangar space available
at KMKY for a reasonable fee please contact me.
Ron Schreck
RV-8, "Miss Izzy"
Gold Hill Airpark, NC
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| Subject: | Re: Where to put the fuel flow sensor |
Understood - thanks for the explanation...better yet - it works too!
-----Original Message-----
>From: Chris Brooks <brooksrv6@hotmail.com>
>Sent: May 17, 2007 8:37 AM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Where to put the fuel flow sensor
>
>
>That's the sequence but the gascolator is also in the wing root. The fuel pump
sits under the selector valve, putting it close to the tanks and getting it off
the sidewall where I didn't like the looks. The Andair gascolator is in the
wing root and is the lowest point in my fuel system. Being in the wing root it
doesn't get heat soaked. It has a 70 micron filter built in that should keep
debris from the flowscan also in the wing root. After the Flowscan the line comes
back into the fuselage and out the firewall. I have a carburator, Not F.I.
> I have considered moving my Floscan and plumbing it between the engine driven
pump and Carb to put it on the pressure side of the pump. But to answer your
original question it has worked flawlessly mounted prior to the engine driven
pump.
>
>Chris
>
>
>
>>>>If I understand your setup correctly, fuel comes in to the fuse from both wings,
to the selector, to the gascolator, then back out to the wing for the
flowscan, then back through to the engine....?<<<
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| Subject: | Re: Hangar at Morco Island |
Ron,
The Department of Florida Forestry Division has an empty hangar at N. Perry (HWO)
just across from mine. I wonder if you could get permission to use it? I
can give you a ride from there to Marco. That's if you will fly in a slightly
slower RV9A!
Eddy Fernandez
954-914-5579 cell
-----Original Message-----
From: ronschreck@windstream.net
Sent: Thu, 17 May 2007 9:16 AM
Subject: RV-List: Hangar at Morco Island
I may need to fly down to Marco Island, FL this weekend to fly some Air Attack
missions in support of the wildfires. I would like to fly my RV-8 down there
but don't want to leave it on the ramp. If any of you have hangar space
available at KMKY for a reasonable fee please contact me.
Ron Schreck
RV-8, "Miss Izzy"
Gold Hill Airpark, NC
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| Subject: | Re: Hangar at Morco Island |
Eddy,
Thanks for the offer, but Hollywood is a bit far and typically state forest service
folks worry too much about liability when then have private airplanes in
their hangar. (Actually, they are more worried about citizens getting the impression
that their tax dollars are providing a hangar for a non-governmental purpose.)
At any rate, I avoid conflict whenever possible. Thanks for the offer.
Ron Schreck
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=113315#113315
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| Subject: | Southeast Hose bows out |
Bryan Meyette, I don;t know what you told them, but here's what they said to
me...
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Lin Clayton <lclayton@sehose.com>
Subject:
Bill,
I am going to have to no-quote this due to the service.
Thanks,
Lin
Standard 100 degree flare anodized aluminum AN fittings.
Thanks.
On 5/16/07, *Southeastern Hose, Inc.* <info@sehose.com <info@sehose.com%20>>
wrote:
What type of end ftgs are you looking for? Material?
Lin Clayton
Southeastern Hose, Inc.
506 Sangamore Road
P.O. Box 575
Bremen, GA 30110
800-241-4818
770-537-5571
770-537-5573/Fax
www.sehose.com
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com>
*To:* info@sehose.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:31 AM
*Subject:* Attention Lin
Please quote the following hose assemblies (individually if possible) for my
experimental aircraft:
dimensions are end-to-end, all fittings are straight, hose type is teflon
with SS braid (#124?), and all include firesleeving.
Size 4 12"
Size 4 15"
Size 6 19"
Size 6 12"
Size 8 18"
Size 8 16"
Size 8 31"
Please advise delivery time also. Thanks very much.
Bill Boyd
4915 McKinney Hollow Road
Clifton Forge, VA 24422
540-969-6466
Lin Clayton
Southeastern Hose, Inc.
506 Sangamore Road
Bremen, GA 30110
800-241-4818
www.sehose.com
[image: logo[1]]
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| Subject: | Re: NGK Plugs Types |
When I pulled my BR8ES's the other day for compression check, they had a
toasty light brown to white color that looked to me like they were running a
bit hot. No carbon anywhere. Running a pair of P-Mags on O-320-E2D with
160 hp pistons and burning hi-test mogas at 40-50F LOP when I can.
I think I'll replace with BR9ES next time. Gaps were good at about 100 hrs
with no sign of erosion that I could see.
-Stormy
On 5/16/07, Bob J. <rocketbob@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> NGK's go colder at the number goes up, opposite of Champions. If you take
> a look at the BR8ES plugs vs. the BR9ES plugs, the BR9ES have a shorter
> electrode, hence they're colder. I've use either in the RV with no
> problems.
>
> http://www.kaila.net/tl125/tl125ngkcode.html
>
> Regards,
> Bob Japundza
> RV-6 flying F1 under const.
>
> On 5/16/07, John Fasching <n1cxo320@salidaco.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > John Fasching wrote:
> > >
> > > I lost info on the difference between NGK BR9ES and BR8ES spark plugs.
> > > I 'think" I have used both at one time or another with LSE EI, but am
> > > now seeking specs on the difference...help anyone?
> > >
> > > John
> >
> > OK I found the data...the "9" are a higher temperature plug...the NKG's
> > are rated 2 for coolest and 11 for the hottest. Seems snow mobilers and
> > boaters know a lot about plugs.
> >
> > *
> >
> >
> > *
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Southeast Hose bows out |
It should have been 37.5 degree flare.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 11:35 AM
Subject: RV-List: Southeast Hose bows out
Bryan Meyette, I don;t know what you told them, but here's what they
said to
me...
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Lin Clayton < <mailto:lclayton@sehose.com> lclayton@sehose.com>
Subject:
Bill,
I am going to have to no-quote this due to the service.
Thanks,
Lin
Standard 100 degree flare anodized aluminum AN fittings.
Thanks.
On 5/16/07, Southeastern Hose, Inc. <info@sehose.com
<mailto:info@sehose.com%20> > wrote:
What type of end ftgs are you looking for? Material?
Lin Clayton
Southeastern Hose, Inc.
506 Sangamore Road
P.O. Box 575
Bremen, GA 30110
800-241-4818
770-537-5571
770-537-5573/Fax
www.sehose.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Boyd <mailto:sportav8r@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:31 AM
Subject: Attention Lin
Please quote the following hose assemblies (individually if possible)
for my
experimental aircraft:
dimensions are end-to-end, all fittings are straight, hose type is
teflon
with SS braid (#124?), and all include firesleeving.
Size 4 12"
Size 4 15"
Size 6 19"
Size 6 12"
Size 8 18"
Size 8 16"
Size 8 31"
Please advise delivery time also. Thanks very much.
Bill Boyd
4915 McKinney Hollow Road
Clifton Forge, VA 24422
540-969-6466
Lin Clayton
Southeastern Hose, Inc.
506 Sangamore Road
Bremen, GA 30110
800-241-4818
www.sehose.com
logo[1]
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| Subject: | Southeast Hose bows out |
One other thing, when dealing with a non-aviation company, never tell
them
their product will be used on an airplane, you're building a hot rod,
boat,
or a new lawn tractor, never an airplane. Most companies will run from
you
with liability fears in their minds.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 11:35 AM
Subject: RV-List: Southeast Hose bows out
Bryan Meyette, I don;t know what you told them, but here's what they
said to
me...
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Lin Clayton < <mailto:lclayton@sehose.com> lclayton@sehose.com>
Subject:
Bill,
I am going to have to no-quote this due to the service.
Thanks,
Lin
Standard 100 degree flare anodized aluminum AN fittings.
Thanks.
On 5/16/07, Southeastern Hose, Inc. <info@sehose.com
<mailto:info@sehose.com%20> > wrote:
What type of end ftgs are you looking for? Material?
Lin Clayton
Southeastern Hose, Inc.
506 Sangamore Road
P.O. Box 575
Bremen, GA 30110
800-241-4818
770-537-5571
770-537-5573/Fax
www.sehose.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Boyd <mailto:sportav8r@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:31 AM
Subject: Attention Lin
Please quote the following hose assemblies (individually if possible)
for my
experimental aircraft:
dimensions are end-to-end, all fittings are straight, hose type is
teflon
with SS braid (#124?), and all include firesleeving.
Size 4 12"
Size 4 15"
Size 6 19"
Size 6 12"
Size 8 18"
Size 8 16"
Size 8 31"
Please advise delivery time also. Thanks very much.
Bill Boyd
4915 McKinney Hollow Road
Clifton Forge, VA 24422
540-969-6466
Lin Clayton
Southeastern Hose, Inc.
506 Sangamore Road
Bremen, GA 30110
800-241-4818
www.sehose.com
logo[1]
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| Subject: | Re: Southeast Hose bows out |
Aha. So the ol' memory is unreliable now, is it? No surprise :-) I'll run
it past him again. Where did I get 100 degrees from?! I do know it's not
standard automotive flare. DOH!
Sometimes I wonder if I should have been allowed to build an airplane.
-Stormy
On 5/17/07, Bruce Gray <Bruce@glasair.org> wrote:
>
> It should have been 37.5 degree flare.
>
>
> Bruce
> www.glasair.org
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Boyd
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 17, 2007 11:35 AM
> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV-List: Southeast Hose bows out
>
> Bryan Meyette, I don;t know what you told them, but here's what they said
> to me...
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Lin Clayton < lclayton@sehose.com>
> Date: May 17, 2007 11:09 AM
> Subject:
> To: sportav8r@gmail.com
>
> Bill,
>
> I am going to have to no-quote this due to the service.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lin
>
>
> Standard 100 degree flare anodized aluminum AN fittings.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On 5/16/07, *Southeastern Hose, Inc.* <info@sehose.com
> <info@sehose.com%20>> wrote:
>
> What type of end ftgs are you looking for? Material?
>
>
> Lin Clayton
> Southeastern Hose, Inc.
> 506 Sangamore Road
> P.O. Box 575
> Bremen, GA 30110
> 800-241-4818
> 770-537-5571
> 770-537-5573/Fax
> www.sehose.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com>
>
> *To:* info@sehose.com
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:31 AM
>
> *Subject:* Attention Lin
>
>
> Please quote the following hose assemblies (individually if possible) for
> my experimental aircraft:
>
> dimensions are end-to-end, all fittings are straight, hose type is teflon
> with SS braid (#124?), and all include firesleeving.
>
> Size 4 12"
> Size 4 15"
> Size 6 19"
> Size 6 12"
> Size 8 18"
> Size 8 16"
> Size 8 31"
>
> Please advise delivery time also. Thanks very much.
>
> Bill Boyd
> 4915 McKinney Hollow Road
> Clifton Forge, VA 24422
> 540-969-6466
>
>
> Lin Clayton
>
> Southeastern Hose, Inc.
>
> 506 Sangamore Road
>
> Bremen, GA 30110
>
> 800-241-4818
>
> www.sehose.com
>
> [image: logo[1]]
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Southeast Hose bows out |
roger that
On 5/17/07, Bruce Gray <Bruce@glasair.org> wrote:
>
> One other thing, when dealing with a non-aviation company, never tell
> them their product will be used on an airplane, you're building a hot rod,
> boat, or a new lawn tractor, never an airplane. Most companies will run from
> you with liability fears in their minds.
>
>
> Bruce
> www.glasair.org
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Boyd
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 17, 2007 11:35 AM
> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV-List: Southeast Hose bows out
>
> Bryan Meyette, I don;t know what you told them, but here's what they said
> to me...
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Lin Clayton < lclayton@sehose.com>
> Date: May 17, 2007 11:09 AM
> Subject:
> To: sportav8r@gmail.com
>
> Bill,
>
> I am going to have to no-quote this due to the service.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lin
>
>
> Standard 100 degree flare anodized aluminum AN fittings.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On 5/16/07, *Southeastern Hose, Inc.* <info@sehose.com
> <info@sehose.com%20>> wrote:
>
> What type of end ftgs are you looking for? Material?
>
>
> Lin Clayton
> Southeastern Hose, Inc.
> 506 Sangamore Road
> P.O. Box 575
> Bremen, GA 30110
> 800-241-4818
> 770-537-5571
> 770-537-5573/Fax
> www.sehose.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com>
>
> *To:* info@sehose.com
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:31 AM
>
> *Subject:* Attention Lin
>
>
> Please quote the following hose assemblies (individually if possible) for
> my experimental aircraft:
>
> dimensions are end-to-end, all fittings are straight, hose type is teflon
> with SS braid (#124?), and all include firesleeving.
>
> Size 4 12"
> Size 4 15"
> Size 6 19"
> Size 6 12"
> Size 8 18"
> Size 8 16"
> Size 8 31"
>
> Please advise delivery time also. Thanks very much.
>
> Bill Boyd
> 4915 McKinney Hollow Road
> Clifton Forge, VA 24422
> 540-969-6466
>
>
> Lin Clayton
>
> Southeastern Hose, Inc.
>
> 506 Sangamore Road
>
> Bremen, GA 30110
>
> 800-241-4818
>
> www.sehose.com
>
> [image: logo[1]]
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Which Plugs? |
Can you elaborate on "better performance?"
-Stormy
On 5/16/07, dick martin <martin@gbonline.com> wrote:
>
>
> Ron,
> I use Nippon Denso 27ESRU. I was able to achieve better performance over
> the NGK plugs I used previously.
> RV8, IO-390. 1500 plus hours, dual lightspeed igns.
> Dick Martin
> RV8 N233M
> the fast one
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Ron Brown <romott@roadrunner.com>
> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 15, 2007 5:22 PM
> *Subject:* RV-List: Which Plugs?
>
> I need to buy a new set of plugs for my IO360 C1C - 200 HP.
>
> I have a Jeff Rose Electroair on the bottom plugs (REM37BY) - and a Slick
> mag on the top plugs (REM38E). I've got 350 hours on them, cleaned and
> regapped them during the condition inspection which I finished yesterday -
> but now I've got some plugs that aren't firing 100%. (Some times it doesn't
> pay to fix things that aren't broken!!! - it ran like a top all the way to
> Lakeland and back!)
>
> I would like to use the NKG plugs that Klaus recommends with inserts.
> The inserts are pricey but sure saves money down the road - but I need to
> know what plugs to use?
>
> THANKS,
>
> Ronnie
>
> Velocity 173 Elite RG (well I do have a set of RV-6A plans! but I didn't
> stay in the Holiday Inn Express)
>
> *
>
> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List
> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
> *
>
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| Subject: | Re: Southeast Hose bows out |
100 degrees is the angle of aircraft flush head C/S screws.
Dale
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Boyd
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Southeast Hose bows out
Aha. So the ol' memory is unreliable now, is it? No surprise :-)
I'll run it past him again. Where did I get 100 degrees from?! I do
know it's not standard automotive flare. DOH!
Sometimes I wonder if I should have been allowed to build an airplane.
-Stormy
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| Subject: | Southeast Hose bows out |
I doubt if it will do any good. He's saying he won't quote because of
the
type of service the hose will be used in - namely aircraft use.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Southeast Hose bows out
Aha. So the ol' memory is unreliable now, is it? No surprise :-) I'll
run
it past him again. Where did I get 100 degrees from?! I do know it's
not
standard automotive flare. DOH!
Sometimes I wonder if I should have been allowed to build an airplane.
-Stormy
On 5/17/07, Bruce Gray <Bruce@glasair.org> wrote:
It should have been 37.5 degree flare.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
<mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com>
owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 11:35 AM
Subject: RV-List: Southeast Hose bows out
Bryan Meyette, I don;t know what you told them, but here's what they
said to
me...
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Lin Clayton < <mailto:lclayton@sehose.com> lclayton@sehose.com>
Subject:
Bill,
I am going to have to no-quote this due to the service.
Thanks,
Lin
Standard 100 degree flare anodized aluminum AN fittings.
Thanks.
On 5/16/07, Southeastern Hose, Inc. <info@sehose.com
<mailto:info@sehose.com%20> > wrote:
What type of end ftgs are you looking for? Material?
Lin Clayton
Southeastern Hose, Inc.
506 Sangamore Road
P.O. Box 575
Bremen, GA 30110
800-241-4818
770-537-5571
770-537-5573/Fax
www.sehose.com <http://www.sehose.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Boyd <mailto:sportav8r@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:31 AM
Subject: Attention Lin
Please quote the following hose assemblies (individually if possible)
for my
experimental aircraft:
dimensions are end-to-end, all fittings are straight, hose type is
teflon
with SS braid (#124?), and all include firesleeving.
Size 4 12"
Size 4 15"
Size 6 19"
Size 6 12"
Size 8 18"
Size 8 16"
Size 8 31"
Please advise delivery time also. Thanks very much.
Bill Boyd
4915 McKinney Hollow Road
Clifton Forge, VA 24422
540-969-6466
Lin Clayton
Southeastern Hose, Inc.
506 Sangamore Road
Bremen, GA 30110
800-241-4818
www.sehose.com
logo[1]
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| Subject: | Southeast Hose bows out |
Hmmm odd I cant imagine what they mean by due to the service. Maybe
it was the 100 degree typo
Perhaps a phone call to them to straighten it out?
Seems crazy (as they are or were Eggenfellner Subaru Aircrafts supplier),
but sounds to me like the service refers to using them in an aircraft.
Call SE & talk to Chris he took care of me OK
Sorry if theyre being difficult they were ok for me
brian
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill Boyd
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:35 AM
Subject: RV-List: Southeast Hose bows out
Bryan Meyette, I don;t know what you told them, but here's what they said to
me...
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Lin Clayton < lclayton@sehose.com <mailto:lclayton@sehose.com> >
Subject:
Bill,
I am going to have to no-quote this due to the service.
Thanks,
Lin
Standard 100 degree flare anodized aluminum AN fittings.
Thanks.
On 5/16/07, Southeastern Hose, Inc. < info@sehose.com
<mailto:info@sehose.com%20> > wrote:
What type of end ftgs are you looking for? Material?
Lin Clayton
Southeastern Hose, Inc.
506 Sangamore Road
P.O. Box 575
Bremen, GA 30110
800-241-4818
770-537-5571
770-537-5573/Fax
www.sehose.com <http://www.sehose.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Boyd <mailto:sportav8r@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:31 AM
Subject: Attention Lin
Please quote the following hose assemblies (individually if possible) for my
experimental aircraft:
dimensions are end-to-end, all fittings are straight, hose type is teflon
with SS braid (#124?), and all include firesleeving.
Size 4 12"
Size 4 15"
Size 6 19"
Size 6 12"
Size 8 18"
Size 8 16"
Size 8 31"
Please advise delivery time also. Thanks very much.
Bill Boyd
4915 McKinney Hollow Road
Clifton Forge, VA 24422
540-969-6466
Lin Clayton
Southeastern Hose, Inc.
506 Sangamore Road
Bremen, GA 30110
800-241-4818
www.sehose.com <http://www.sehose.com>
logo[1]
6:05 PM
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| Subject: | Re: Southeast Hose bows out |
Just tell them you need a JIC flare...same as AN.
Regards,
Bob Japundza
RV-6 flying F1 under const.
On 5/17/07, Bruce Gray <Bruce@glasair.org> wrote:
>
> I doubt if it will do any good. He's saying he won't quote because of the
> type of service the hose will be used in - namely aircraft use.
>
>
> Bruce
> www.glasair.org
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Boyd
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:17 PM
> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Southeast Hose bows out
>
> Aha. So the ol' memory is unreliable now, is it? No surprise :-) I'll
> run it past him again. Where did I get 100 degrees from?! I do know it's
> not standard automotive flare. DOH!
>
> Sometimes I wonder if I should have been allowed to build an airplane.
>
> -Stormy
>
> On 5/17/07, Bruce Gray <Bruce@glasair.org> wrote:
> >
> > It should have been 37.5 degree flare.
> >
> >
> >
> > Bruce
> > www.glasair.org
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]
> > *On Behalf Of *Bill Boyd
> > *Sent:* Thursday, May 17, 2007 11:35 AM
> > *To:* rv-list@matronics.com
> > *Subject:* RV-List: Southeast Hose bows out
> >
> > Bryan Meyette, I don;t know what you told them, but here's what they
> > said to me...
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Lin Clayton < lclayton@sehose.com>
> > Date: May 17, 2007 11:09 AM
> > Subject:
> > To: sportav8r@gmail.com
> >
> > Bill,
> >
> > I am going to have to no-quote this due to the service.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Lin
> >
> >
> >
> > Standard 100 degree flare anodized aluminum AN fittings.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > On 5/16/07, *Southeastern Hose, Inc.* <info@sehose.com
> > <info@sehose.com%20>> wrote:
> >
> > What type of end ftgs are you looking for? Material?
> >
> >
> >
> > Lin Clayton
> > Southeastern Hose, Inc.
> > 506 Sangamore Road
> > P.O. Box 575
> > Bremen, GA 30110
> > 800-241-4818
> > 770-537-5571
> > 770-537-5573/Fax
> > www.sehose.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > *From:* Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com>
> >
> > *To:* info@sehose.com
> >
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:31 AM
> >
> > *Subject:* Attention Lin
> >
> >
> >
> > Please quote the following hose assemblies (individually if possible)
> > for my experimental aircraft:
> >
> > dimensions are end-to-end, all fittings are straight, hose type is
> > teflon with SS braid (#124?), and all include firesleeving.
> >
> > Size 4 12"
> > Size 4 15"
> > Size 6 19"
> > Size 6 12"
> > Size 8 18"
> > Size 8 16"
> > Size 8 31"
> >
> > Please advise delivery time also. Thanks very much.
> >
> > Bill Boyd
> > 4915 McKinney Hollow Road
> > Clifton Forge, VA 24422
> > 540-969-6466
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Lin Clayton
> >
> > Southeastern Hose, Inc.
> >
> > 506 Sangamore Road
> >
> > Bremen, GA 30110
> >
> > 800-241-4818
> >
> > www.sehose.com
> >
> > [image: logo[1]]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: Where to put the fuel flow sensor |
Sorry ... note that I said it is what I *intend* to do. So it is still
my plan, but not something I've done. Therefore, no pictures (yet).
That being said what has been recommended by Don is that it does go inline
on that feed line. Unless I mis-understood Don didn't recommend re-routing
the line nor mounting to the baffle. This will mean a break in that line,
and what I plan to do is cut the existing hose, shorten it to accomidate
the fuel sensor, and add new fittings on the cut ends to fit the FlowScan.
Since I built the hose to begin with (working with Don at API) I hope
I can add the needed fittings myself as well. :)
If you have questions, Don is the pro. Contact him at Airflow Performance
and see what he says. My experience is that Don (and API in general) is
extremely responsive to questions, and is _extremely_ helpful.
-- Dwight
On Thu May 17 00:17:58 2007, Dave Cudney wrote :
>
>
>Dwight:
>
>Did you just mount the sensor by parting the line from the contoller
>before it goes up between cyls 1 and 3 or did you
>re route the line and attach the sensor to the baffling etc. A
>picture or more complete description would really be helpful.
>
>thanks Dave
>
>
>On May 16, 2007, at 8:22 AM, Dwight Frye wrote:
>
>>
>> Just FYI ... Don Rivera at Airflow Performance recommends
>> installing it
>> after the fuel controller and before the flow divider. This is on
>> the feed
>> line that is often routed vertically between two cylinders. The
>> FlowScan
>> goes inline and is then covered in firesleeve. It is a simple
>> installation,
>> adds no restrictions on the suction side of any pump, and has
>> proved to be
>> a very reliable approach according to what Don has passed on to me
>> (and
>> others who have asked). It is what I intend to do, for what *THAT*
>> is worth!
>>
>> -- Dwight
>>
>> do not archive (since this info is already there)
>>
>> On Wed May 16 10:13:56 2007, Ralph E. Capen wrote :
>>
>>> That adds a little to my confusion....
>>>
>>> If I understand your setup correctly, fuel comes in to the fuse
>>> from both wings, to the selector, to the gascolator, then back out
>>> to the wing for the flowscan, then back through to the engine....?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>>> From: Chris Brooks <brooksrv6@hotmail.com>
>>>> Sent: May 16, 2007 9:46 AM
>>>> To: rv-list@matronics.com
>>>> Subject: Re: RV-List: Where to put the fuel flow sensor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ... Chris, Does that mean that you're only getting
>>>> fuel flow from one wing?... No, The Flowscan is installed
>>>> after the Fuel selector valve and gascolator. It's located in the
>>>> area between the wing root rib, and the fuselage.
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: NGK Plugs Types |
Right, Bob - I did some more reading, and the confusion is the
non-standard numbering system makers use to show the heat range...as you
said, some get hotter with higher numbers, some get colder with
increasing numbers. I think I will put hotter plugs on the bottom, and
next 'colder' on the top of each cylinder (using dual LSE ignition.) I
see more dark stuff on the insulators of the plugs from the bottom and
suspect a hotter plug might be best there.
John
Bob J. wrote:
> NGK's go colder at the number goes up, opposite of Champions. If you
> take a look at the BR8ES plugs vs. the BR9ES plugs, the BR9ES have a
> shorter electrode, hence they're colder. I've use either in the RV
> with no problems.
>
> http://www.kaila.net/tl125/tl125ngkcode.html
>
> Regards,
> Bob Japundza
> RV-6 flying F1 under const.
>
> On 5/16/07, *John Fasching* <n1cxo320@salidaco.com
> <mailto:n1cxo320@salidaco.com>> wrote:
>
> <n1cxo320@salidaco.com <mailto:n1cxo320@salidaco.com>>
>
>
> John Fasching wrote:
> n1cxo320@salidaco.com <mailto:n1cxo320@salidaco.com>>
> >
> > I lost info on the difference between NGK BR9ES and BR8ES spark
> plugs.
> > I 'think" I have used both at one time or another with LSE EI,
> but am
> > now seeking specs on the difference...help anyone?
> >
> > John
>
> OK I found the data...the "9" are a higher temperature plug...the
> NKG's
> are rated 2 for coolest and 11 for the hottest. Seems snow
> mobilers and
> boaters know a lot about plugs.
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
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| Subject: | Re: Southeast Hose bows out |
Bob's recommendation is a good one - JIC implies its for hydraulic use
instead of the AN tip off. Also, rather than tell a complete falsehood,
I always claim the product is for an "off - road - vehicle" - most do
not think of aircraft with that usage.
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob J.
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Southeast Hose bows out
Just tell them you need a JIC flare...same as AN.
Regards,
Bob Japundza
RV-6 flying F1 under const.
On 5/17/07, Bruce Gray < Bruce@glasair.org> wrote:
I doubt if it will do any good. He's saying he won't quote because
of the type of service the hose will be used in - namely aircraft use.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:17 PM
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV-List: Southeast Hose bows out
Aha. So the ol' memory is unreliable now, is it? No surprise :-)
I'll run it past him again. Where did I get 100 degrees from?! I do
know it's not standard automotive flare. DOH!
Sometimes I wonder if I should have been allowed to build an
airplane.
-Stormy
On 5/17/07, Bruce Gray <Bruce@glasair.org> wrote:
It should have been 37.5 degree flare.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 11:35 AM
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV-List: Southeast Hose bows out
Bryan Meyette, I don;t know what you told them, but here's
what they said to me...
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Lin Clayton < lclayton@sehose.com>
Date: May 17, 2007 11:09 AM
Subject:
To: sportav8r@gmail.com
Bill,
I am going to have to no-quote this due to the service.
Thanks,
Lin
Standard 100 degree flare anodized aluminum AN fittings.
Thanks.
On 5/16/07, Southeastern Hose, Inc. <info@sehose.com > wrote:
What type of end ftgs are you looking for? Material?
Lin Clayton
Southeastern Hose, Inc.
506 Sangamore Road
P.O. Box 575
Bremen, GA 30110
800-241-4818
770-537-5571
770-537-5573/Fax
www.sehose.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Boyd
To: info@sehose.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:31 AM
Subject: Attention Lin
Please quote the following hose assemblies (individually if
possible) for my experimental aircraft:
dimensions are end-to-end, all fittings are straight, hose
type is teflon with SS braid (#124?), and all include firesleeving.
Size 4 12"
Size 4 15"
Size 6 19"
Size 6 12"
Size 8 18"
Size 8 16"
Size 8 31"
Please advise delivery time also. Thanks very much.
Bill Boyd
4915 McKinney Hollow Road
Clifton Forge, VA 24422
540-969-6466
Lin Clayton
Southeastern Hose, Inc.
506 Sangamore Road
Bremen, GA 30110
800-241-4818
www.sehose.com
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| Subject: | Re: Southeast Hose bows out |
All your observations are correct; his final reply is that they're just not
"into aircraft applications." I could try the phone call to Chris and ask
for a JIC flare hose for an offroad vehicle.
-Stormy
On 5/17/07, Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Bob's recommendation is a good one - JIC implies its for hydraulic use
> instead of the AN tip off. Also, rather than tell a complete falsehood, I
> always claim the product is for an "off - road - vehicle" - most do not
> think of aircraft with that usage.
>
> Ed
>
> Ed Anderson
> Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
> Matthews, NC
> eanderson@carolina.rr.com
> http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
> http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Bob J. <rocketbob@gmail.com>
> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:06 PM
> *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Southeast Hose bows out
>
> Just tell them you need a JIC flare...same as AN.
>
> Regards,
> Bob Japundza
> RV-6 flying F1 under const.
>
> On 5/17/07, Bruce Gray < Bruce@glasair.org> wrote:
> >
> > I doubt if it will do any good. He's saying he won't quote because of
> > the type of service the hose will be used in - namely aircraft use.
> >
> >
> >
> > Bruce
> > www.glasair.org
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]
> > *On Behalf Of *Bill Boyd
> > *Sent:* Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:17 PM
> > *To:* rv-list@matronics.com
> > *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Southeast Hose bows out
> >
> > Aha. So the ol' memory is unreliable now, is it? No surprise :-) I'll
> > run it past him again. Where did I get 100 degrees from?! I do know it's
> > not standard automotive flare. DOH!
> >
> > Sometimes I wonder if I should have been allowed to build an airplane.
> >
> > -Stormy
> >
> > On 5/17/07, Bruce Gray <Bruce@glasair.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > It should have been 37.5 degree flare.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bruce
> > > www.glasair.org
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]
> > > *On Behalf Of *Bill Boyd
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, May 17, 2007 11:35 AM
> > > *To:* rv-list@matronics.com
> > > *Subject:* RV-List: Southeast Hose bows out
> > >
> > > Bryan Meyette, I don;t know what you told them, but here's what they
> > > said to me...
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: Lin Clayton < lclayton@sehose.com>
> > > Date: May 17, 2007 11:09 AM
> > > Subject:
> > > To: sportav8r@gmail.com
> > >
> > > Bill,
> > >
> > > I am going to have to no-quote this due to the service.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Lin
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Standard 100 degree flare anodized aluminum AN fittings.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > On 5/16/07, *Southeastern Hose, Inc.* <info@sehose.com
> > > <info@sehose.com%20>> wrote:
> > >
> > > What type of end ftgs are you looking for? Material?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lin Clayton
> > > Southeastern Hose, Inc.
> > > 506 Sangamore Road
> > > P.O. Box 575
> > > Bremen, GA 30110
> > > 800-241-4818
> > > 770-537-5571
> > > 770-537-5573/Fax
> > > www.sehose.com
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > > *From:* Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > *To:* info@sehose.com
> > >
> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:31 AM
> > >
> > > *Subject:* Attention Lin
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Please quote the following hose assemblies (individually if possible)
> > > for my experimental aircraft:
> > >
> > > dimensions are end-to-end, all fittings are straight, hose type is
> > > teflon with SS braid (#124?), and all include firesleeving.
> > >
> > > Size 4 12"
> > > Size 4 15"
> > > Size 6 19"
> > > Size 6 12"
> > > Size 8 18"
> > > Size 8 16"
> > > Size 8 31"
> > >
> > > Please advise delivery time also. Thanks very much.
> > >
> > > Bill Boyd
> > > 4915 McKinney Hollow Road
> > > Clifton Forge, VA 24422
> > > 540-969-6466
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lin Clayton
> > >
> > > Southeastern Hose, Inc.
> > >
> > > 506 Sangamore Road
> > >
> > > Bremen, GA 30110
> > >
> > > 800-241-4818
> > >
> > > www.sehose.com
> > >
> > > [image: logo[1]]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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Might also want to use a different email address. Sportav8r kinda gives
it away. ;-)
Do not archive
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matro
nics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Southeast Hose bows out
roger that
On 5/17/07, Bruce Gray <Bruce@glasair.org<mailto:Bruce@glasair.org>> wrote:
One other thing, when dealing with a non-aviation company, never tell them
their product will be used on an airplane, you're building a hot rod, boat,
or a new lawn tractor, never an airplane. Most companies will run from you
with liability fears in their minds.
Bruce
www.glasair.org<http://www.glasair.org>
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matron
ics.com> [mailto: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-rv-list-s
erver@matronics.com>] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 11:35 AM
Subject: RV-List: Southeast Hose bows out
Bryan Meyette, I don;t know what you told them, but here's what they said t
o me...
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From: Lin Clayton < lclayton@sehose.com<mailto:lclayton@sehose.com>>
Subject:
Bill,
I am going to have to no-quote this due to the service.
Thanks,
Lin
Standard 100 degree flare anodized aluminum AN fittings.
Thanks.
On 5/16/07, Southeastern Hose, Inc. <info@sehose.com <mailto:info@sehose.co
m%20> > wrote:
What type of end ftgs are you looking for? Material?
Lin Clayton
Southeastern Hose, Inc.
506 Sangamore Road
P.O. Box 575
Bremen, GA 30110
800-241-4818
770-537-5571
770-537-5573/Fax
www.sehose.com <http://www.sehose.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Boyd<mailto:sportav8r@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:31 AM
Subject: Attention Lin
Please quote the following hose assemblies (individually if possible) for m
y experimental aircraft:
dimensions are end-to-end, all fittings are straight, hose type is teflon w
ith SS braid (#124?), and all include firesleeving.
Size 4 12"
Size 4 15"
Size 6 19"
Size 6 12"
Size 8 18"
Size 8 16"
Size 8 31"
Please advise delivery time also. Thanks very much.
Bill Boyd
4915 McKinney Hollow Road
Clifton Forge, VA 24422
540-969-6466
Lin Clayton
Southeastern Hose, Inc.
506 Sangamore Road
Bremen, GA 30110
800-241-4818
www.sehose.com<http://www.sehose.com>
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