---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 05/22/07: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:16 AM - Re: cato prop (LessDragProd@aol.com) 2. 08:46 AM - Builder's Bookstore Bargain Basement (Andy Gold) 3. 09:38 AM - Sniffle Valve (James H Nelson) 4. 09:40 AM - Builder's Bookstore Bargain Basement (James H Nelson) 5. 09:57 AM - Re: Sniffle Valve (Konrad L. Werner) 6. 10:31 AM - Re: Tip-Up Canopy Query (Steve A) 7. 11:06 AM - Re: Sniffle Valve (don wentz) 8. 11:28 AM - Re: Sniffle Valve (don wentz) 9. 11:53 AM - Re: Sniffle Valve (Konrad L. Werner) 10. 12:29 PM - Re: Tip-Up Canopy Query (Dan Reeves) 11. 01:14 PM - Re: Tip-Up Canopy Query (Dwight Frye) 12. 01:57 PM - discounted speed with economy books sold out (Andy Gold) 13. 04:01 PM - Re: Sniffle Valve () 14. 05:03 PM - Re: Tip-Up Canopy Query (Steve A) 15. 06:34 PM - RV-6A wings for sale (Dave Stuebner) 16. 07:27 PM - Re: Tip-Up Canopy Query (PeterHunt1@aol.com) 17. 09:06 PM - Re: Re: Tip-Up Canopy Query (William Gill) 18. 09:48 PM - Re: Re: Tip-Up Canopy Query (Carlos A Hernandez) 19. 11:46 PM - Re: Re: Tip-Up Canopy Query (Fiveonepw@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:16:30 AM PST US From: LessDragProd@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: cato prop You could try an MT fixed pitch 2 blade propeller. SST leading edge protection, just like the constant speed propeller blades. Those that have tried them, speak very highly of them. My phone number is 805-795-5377. I'm sure someone will recognize this is SPAM. Live with it. Jim Ayers Less Drag Products, Inc. Some people need to be told when there is a better product available. :-) In a message dated 05/20/2007 9:14:27 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net writes: --> RV-List message posted by: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS" Why don't you try a Sterba two blade wood prop. Ed makes a pretty darn good prop at approximately one third the price of the Catto and his lead times last year were only a couple months. His phone number: 941-778-3103 ------------------Original Message ---------------------------------------- > 1. 05:02 AM - Re: cato prop non responsive (Ron Lee) > 2. 04:50 PM - Re: cato prop non responsive (sportypilot) > 3. 05:15 PM - RV Flight Bags (another shameless plug) (kirt klevin) > 4. 05:47 PM - Re: cato prop non responsive (Kevin Horton) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:46:21 AM PST US From: "Andy Gold" Subject: RV-List: Builder's Bookstore Bargain Basement We've got some items that were lost by UPS, finally returned, but got a little banged up in the process. They are perfectly good books except that the covers are just scuffed enough that we'd probably get less than happy thoughts if I shipped them as new. So, lets just get rid of them cheap. So either you can buy these at the discounted prices shown below, or pick one FREE with any other order over $100 from Builders Bookstore. Please either order by phone or e-mail, or mention this sale if ordering on-line. This is a temporary offer good only as long as these items remain. SPEED WITH ECONOMY Kent Paser's excellent book on drag reduction techniques tried on his Mustang-II. 99% applicable to our RVs. http://www.actechbooks.com/speed_with_economy.htm Regular $24.95 seven available for $15.00 COMPOSITE BASICS by Andrew Marshall. Not really a necessary topic for RV building, but still an excellent book specifically for kit and plans built aircraft focusing on designing composite parts with the necessary strength for various applications. http://www.actechbooks.com/composite_basics.htm Regular $29.95 18 available for $15.00 And 2 other closeout items that we just no longer carry: GEORGE ORNDORF RV CONSTRUCTION VIDEOS RV-6 Fuselage - VHS $20.00 1 left RV-9 Empennage - VHS $20.00 2 left RV-8 Fuselage - VHS $20.00 2 left RV-7/8 Wings - VHS $20.00 2 left RV - 8 Finishing Kit - VHS $20.00 3 left FLIGHT GUIDE - by Airguide Inc cockpit reference book showing airport diagrams, frequencies, etc. Include a free update from publisher Central States $20.00 5 left Eastern States $20.00 5 left Thanks, Andy Builders Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com 800 780-4115 do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:38:35 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Sniffle Valve From: James H Nelson Mark I believe that the sniffle valve is for carburated engines. Its purpose is to remove any fuel that might pool in the bottom of the air cleaner from to vigorous application of the throttle during starting. That is the fire hazard. With fuel injection, fuel is only put into the engine at the intake valve. It will be difficult but possible to get fuel to run back down and into the air cleaner area. Pumping the throttle during start will not add any additional fuel to the slow moving air stream. IMHO, anything is possible but with FI, you will have flooded the engine seriously. to get in that condition. I could be wrong in these scenarios but I am not installing one in my IO 360. Jim ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:40:02 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Builder's Bookstore Bargain Basement From: James H Nelson Andy, I would be interested in the "speed with economy" book. How shall we do the transaction? Jim Nelson ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:57:35 AM PST US From: "Konrad L. Werner" Subject: Re: RV-List: Sniffle Valve To the contrary, sniffle valves are intended for injected Engines with the front intake sumps, I believe? I am not sure if they are also used on updraft injected Engines. Please correct me if I am wrong. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: James H Nelson To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 7:26 AM Subject: RV-List: Sniffle Valve Mark I believe that the sniffle valve is for carburated engines. Its purpose is to remove any fuel that might pool in the bottom of the air cleaner from to vigorous application of the throttle during starting. That is the fire hazard. With fuel injection, fuel is only put into the engine at the intake valve. It will be difficult but possible to get fuel to run back down and into the air cleaner area. Pumping the throttle during start will not add any additional fuel to the slow moving air stream. IMHO, anything is possible but with FI, you will have flooded the engine seriously. to get in that condition. I could be wrong in these scenarios but I am not installing one in my IO 360. Jim ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:31:47 AM PST US From: Steve A Subject: Re: RV-List: Tip-Up Canopy Query Dwight, If I understand Scott's suggestion, trimming the canopy frame will reduce the flange thickness......the flange the canopy skin rivets to. You can probably get away with some trimming, the question is how much trimming before running the risk of the frame cracking later. My canopy frame has the same problem on the right side. It sits about 1/32 high (if I remember correctly.......the canopy is off the fuselage at the moment). The left side and center fit flush. I have seen similar conditions to varying degrees on some other tip up canopy RVs. You could trim the canopy frame, and add a doubler angle on the inside of the frame flange. The doubler angle rivets to the forward facing canopy frame web, and the canopy frame flange/canopy skin joint. The trick is to make a doubler angle that fits inside the canopy frame channel and follows the skin curvature. It can be done, but will take a bit of work I would opt for shimming the forward skin rather than trimming the canopy frame. Shimming sounds like the easiest way out of this particular swamp (other than doing nothing and living with the gap....but I understand how tough that is!) . :-) good luck, Steve RV-6A - tip up Dwight Frye wrote: > On the left-hand side (facing forward) it is almost perfect. I have less > than 1/64th of an inch of gap and am quite happy. On the right-hand side > (again, facing forward) I'm not so happy. I have about 1/16th of an inch > of gap and I'd like to close that a bit. > > A suggestion I got from Scott Risan was to shave down the canopy frame > bow along the front such that there is less distance for the skin to > cover, and thus pulling that problem edge down lower. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:06:56 AM PST US From: "don wentz" Subject: RE: RV-List: Sniffle Valve Konrad, you're correct, and for rear intake sumps. When you 'prime' and after shutdown, fuel drips into the intake area and runs down the intake tubes and puddles in the tubes that run thru the sump. it's not uncommon for fuel to drip out the drain I have coming from my 'sniffles' after shutdown, or after a 'failed' start. don _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Konrad L. Werner Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Sniffle Valve To the contrary, sniffle valves are intended for injected Engines with the front intake sumps, I believe? I am not sure if they are also used on updraft injected Engines. Please correct me if I am wrong. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: James H Nelson Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 7:26 AM Subject: RV-List: Sniffle Valve Mark I believe that the sniffle valve is for carburated engines. Its purpose is to remove any fuel that might pool in the bottom of the air cleaner from to vigorous application of the throttle during starting. That is the fire hazard. With fuel injection, fuel is only put into the engine at the intake valve. It will be difficult but possible to get fuel to run back down and into the air cleaner area. Pumping the throttle during start will not add any additional fuel to the slow moving air stream. IMHO, anything is possible but with FI, you will have flooded the engine seriously. to get in that condition. I could be wrong in these scenarios but I am not installing one in my IO p; Navigator href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.nbsp; available via href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:28:40 AM PST US From: "don wentz" Subject: RE: RV-List: Sniffle Valve Mark, to theorize on your original question: My sump has 2 of the valves, one on each side, and no amount of cleaning them gets a 'perfect seal'. Considering the 'design' of the sumps, if the valve does leak a bit, it's likely a very small percentage of airflow in, and, affects all cylinders the same, so I would 'think' that it isn't going to adversely affect your mixture, especially since you are dynamically adjusting the mixture all the time and 'monitoring' the end result. I have wondered about this as well, and plugging the outlets completely yielded no discernible difference in operation. Don _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fiveonepw@aol.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 11:27 PM Subject: RV-List: Sniffle Valve I am installing a Lycoming sniffle valve (included in Vans FWF kit) to an Aerosport IO-360 and would like to confirm its intended operation. I "think" it is basically a check valve that should open when manifold pressure is equal to atmospheric (engine not running) to drain any fuel pooled in the sump. Engine running, it should close when manifold pressure drops. The valve I have flows freely when blowing into the sump side, but still passes a bit of air when blown into from the tube side, which I surmise would constitute a small vacuum leak and possible leaner than normal operation. Is this normal? Thanks- Mark _____ See what's free at AOL.com . ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:53:19 AM PST US From: "Konrad L. Werner" Subject: Re: RV-List: Sniffle Valve Daser Don, I should have just said Horizontal intake sumps (i.e front- and rear intake). Thank you for clarifying this. But let me ask you this, why would it not matter in a vertical intake FI engine? Konrad ----- Original Message ----- From: don wentz To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 12:02 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Sniffle Valve Konrad, you're correct, and for rear intake sumps. When you 'prime' and after shutdown, fuel drips into the intake area and runs down the intake tubes and puddles in the tubes that run thru the sump. it's not uncommon for fuel to drip out the drain I have coming from my 'sniffles' after shutdown, or after a 'failed' start. don ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Konrad L. Werner Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 9:57 AM To: rv-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Sniffle Valve To the contrary, sniffle valves are intended for injected Engines with the front intake sumps, I believe? I am not sure if they are also used on updraft injected Engines. Please correct me if I am wrong. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: James H Nelson To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 7:26 AM Subject: RV-List: Sniffle Valve Mark I believe that the sniffle valve is for carburated engines. Its purpose is to remove any fuel that might pool in the bottom of the air cleaner from to vigorous application of the throttle during starting. That is the fire hazard. With fuel injection, fuel is only put into the engine at the intake valve. It will be difficult but possible to get fuel to run back down and into the air cleaner area. Pumping the throttle during start will not add any additional fuel to the slow moving air stream. IMHO, anything is possible but with FI, you will have flooded the engine seriously. to get in that condition. I could be wrong in these scenarios but I am not installing one in my IO p; Navigator href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics. nbsp; available via href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics. com/Navigator?RV-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:29:00 PM PST US From: Dan Reeves Subject: Re: RV-List: Tip-Up Canopy Query Dwight, My frame was also a bit high outboard of the gooseneck's on both sides. Not only was the canopy skin high in comparison to the front skin but the front end of the side rails also extended a bit beyond the sides of the fuselage. This of course was after all of the riveting was done. Everything lined up perfectly and was flush on the sides before riveting. I ended up wrapping a tie-down strap around the entire front bow of the frame and ratcheted everything into alignment. The front corners of the frame were pulled downward and inward such that there is no gap in the skins up front and the front of the side rails are now flush with sides of the fuselage. Worked for me. Another approach might be to drill out the rivets of the joining plate in the center of the frame and also from the tabs on the sides and replace / redrill these such that the sides of the frame are pulled inward / downward more. Good luck,,,shims / filler may be the best way to go for small variances though. Just thought I'd present some other options. Dan RV-7A wiring Dwight Frye wrote: I am currently working my way slowly through the canopy frame fitting exercise. It is going well (after a long delay due to a kitchen remodel that took 3 months) but I'm not -quite- there, and want advice. In general the fit along the split between the forward top skin and the skin on the canopy frame is good. At least the amount of gap is good. As I move out from the center, past where the 'goose-neck hinges' go, the canopy frame skin starts to ride a little high. In the center I have it shimmed so that it is intentionally a little high, of course, to clear the forward skin. But along those curves leading down to the side of the fuselage I need to either lower the canopy frame skin, or shim up the forward skin. Either works for me. On the left-hand side (facing forward) it is almost perfect. I have less than 1/64th of an inch of gap and am quite happy. On the right-hand side (again, facing forward) I'm not so happy. I have about 1/16th of an inch of gap and I'd like to close that a bit. A suggestion I got from Scott Risan was to shave down the canopy frame bow along the front such that there is less distance for the skin to cover, and thus pulling that problem edge down lower. I have done that a _tiny_ bit, but before I shaved more off of the frame I thought I'd solicit any other input from the collected wisdom of the list. If I can close that 1/16 inch gap, I'll call it good enough and will be ready to drill the hinges and move on. I really really want to move on. So ... help! :) Anyone got any more advice beyond what Scott suggested? If so, I'm all ears. -- Dwight --------------------------------- Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:14:22 PM PST US From: Dwight Frye Subject: Re: RV-List: Tip-Up Canopy Query Yeah ... Scott also said that it would reduce the flange thickness, but that it was pretty beefy material and could take some thinning without harm. I wasn't able to pin him down on a specific amount, though. :) At this point I don't think I'm even close to thinning it too much, but I am going at it -very- cautiously. As far as fixing the mis-match on the forward edge of the canopy skin goes, I agree that shimming is the easy solution. The gap I'm having trouble figuring out how to close (and it is hard to describe, maybe I need a picture) is the gap between the fuselage side skin, and the right-hand (looking forward) _bottom_ edge of the tip-up canopy skin. This is the edge that runs from the front bottom corner of the tip-up canopy skin along the side rails of the fuselage. I hope to fiddle with this more tonight, but am looking for any insight folks might have to offer. It may be the case that I'm not the FIRST to say that they'll glad when they are done with canopy, but I will be. :) Thanks for the input!! -- Dwight On Tue May 22 13:30:01 2007, Steve A wrote : > > >Dwight, > >If I understand Scott's suggestion, trimming the canopy frame will >reduce the flange thickness......the flange the canopy skin rivets to. >You can probably get away with some trimming, the question is how much >trimming before running the risk of the frame cracking later. > >My canopy frame has the same problem on the right side. It sits about >1/32 high (if I remember correctly.......the canopy is off the fuselage >at the moment). The left side and center fit flush. I have seen >similar conditions to varying degrees on some other tip up canopy RVs. > >You could trim the canopy frame, and add a doubler angle on the inside >of the frame flange. The doubler angle rivets to the forward facing >canopy frame web, and the canopy frame flange/canopy skin joint. The >trick is to make a doubler angle that fits inside the canopy frame >channel and follows the skin curvature. It can be done, but will take a >bit of work > >I would opt for shimming the forward skin rather than trimming the >canopy frame. Shimming sounds like the easiest way out of this >particular swamp (other than doing nothing and living with the >gap....but I understand how tough that is!) . :-) > >good luck, >Steve >RV-6A - tip up > > >Dwight Frye wrote: >> On the left-hand side (facing forward) it is almost perfect. I have less >> than 1/64th of an inch of gap and am quite happy. On the right-hand side >> (again, facing forward) I'm not so happy. I have about 1/16th of an inch >> of gap and I'd like to close that a bit. >> >> A suggestion I got from Scott Risan was to shave down the canopy frame >> bow along the front such that there is less distance for the skin to >> cover, and thus pulling that problem edge down lower. > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:57:42 PM PST US From: "Andy Gold" Subject: RV-List: discounted speed with economy books sold out The discounted Speed With Economy books with the scuffed covers are sold out. Thank you. But there are regular copies left at the regular price as books and e-Books. Regular price is $24.95. The other advertised items are still available as below. Thanks, Andy Builders Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com COMPOSITE BASICS by Andrew Marshall. Not really a necessary topic for RV building, but still an excellent book specifically for kit and plans built aircraft focusing on designing composite parts with the necessary strength for various applications. http://www.actechbooks.com/composite_basics.htm Regular $29.95 18 available for $15.00 And 2 other closeout items that we just no longer carry: GEORGE ORNDORF RV CONSTRUCTION VIDEOS RV-6 Fuselage - VHS $20.00 1 left RV-9 Empennage - VHS $20.00 2 left RV-8 Fuselage - VHS $20.00 2 left RV-7/8 Wings - VHS $20.00 2 left RV - 8 Finishing Kit - VHS $20.00 3 left FLIGHT GUIDE - by Airguide Inc cockpit reference book showing airport diagrams, frequencies, etc. Include a free update from publisher Central States $20.00 5 left Eastern States $20.00 5 left Thanks, Andy Builders Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com 800 780-4115 do not archive ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:01:58 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: RV-List: Sniffle Valve My sniffle valve did not come with the FWF kit, it was a add on, glad to hear they are now in the kit. IO360 RV8A 116 hrs and loving the plane. Mark Rose 137MR ----- Original Message ----- From: Fiveonepw@aol.com To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 11:27 PM Subject: RV-List: Sniffle Valve I am installing a Lycoming sniffle valve (included in Vans FWF kit) to an Aerosport IO-360 and would like to confirm its intended operation. I "think" it is basically a check valve that should open when manifold pressure is equal to atmospheric (engine not running) to drain any fuel pooled in the sump. Engine running, it should close when manifold pressure drops. The valve I have flows freely when blowing into the sump side, but still passes a bit of air when blown into from the tube side, which I surmise would constitute a small vacuum leak and possible leaner than normal operation. Is this normal? Thanks- Mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- See what's free at AOL.com. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:03:20 PM PST US From: Steve A Subject: Re: RV-List: Tip-Up Canopy Query Ahh, now I understand what edge we're talking about. How about using an edge rolling tool or hand seamer to put a slight bend the the top skin that overhangs the canopy frame? Steve Dwight Frye wrote: > The gap I'm having > trouble figuring out how to close (and it is hard to describe, maybe I > need a picture) is the gap between the fuselage side skin, and the > right-hand (looking forward) _bottom_ edge of the tip-up canopy skin. > This is the edge that runs from the front bottom corner of the tip-up > canopy skin along the side rails of the fuselage. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:34:16 PM PST US From: "Dave Stuebner" Subject: RV-List: RV-6A wings for sale I am selling off/parting out the wings of a wrecked RV6A. I am going to use the rest for my RV-7 project (except the cowling, for sale at a later date). The left wing is in good shape. No significant damage. I don't think the right wing is not useable as a whole due to damage to the spar, but, the fuel tank and the flap are good. The forward piece of sheetmetal of the spar is messed up, and there are various dents and dings to the rest of the sheetmetal, excluding the fuel tank and flap. Also included are the pushrods and wing attach hardware. So, does anyone know anyone who either needs repair parts, or someone who is building a -6 or -6A who doesn't mind using previously flown parts? Dave Location: Upstate NY(Capital District, 12053) ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:27:47 PM PST US From: PeterHunt1@aol.com Subject: RV-List: RE: Tip-Up Canopy Query Dwight, The front edge (in the center area) of the tip-up opens both forward and up. Consequently the gap must be a little wider than on the sides. When I installed my gas struts the clearance changed again as the struts push the canopy forward when closed. So after I got it all together I used filler to built up the aluminum piece immediately in front of the closed canopy and sanded and filed the gap until I got a really nice fit between the canopy front and the fuseladge. Now, once your canopy is on you will have to deaf with a front gasket which seals when the canopy is closed. I have tried them all and finally decided to design my own. What I developed is the perfect front seal for Van's RV aircraft with tip-up canopies. I am manufacturing 250 feet (the minimum raw materials I could order) and can give you a great price on five feet which is all you will need for that front seal. My seal has a "C" channel which slips over that rear facing edge down onto which the tip-up canopy closes. Anyone else interested in a piece? This tip-up canopy front seal, large lockable boxes for storage behind the seats in side-by-side seaters and other neat RV stuff which made my RV-6 a Reserve Grand Champion will soon appear on a web site I will soon have running at PetesRVAviationProducts.com. Or contact me directly. Pete in Clearwater RV-6 SnF 2006 Reserve Grand Champion - Kit SnF 2007 Outstanding Aircraft Homebuilt ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:06:30 PM PST US From: "William Gill" Subject: RE: RV-List: RE: Tip-Up Canopy Query Please post details.price, address, method of payment.and BTW, count me in. Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of PeterHunt1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 9:27 PM Subject: RV-List: RE: Tip-Up Canopy Query Dwight, The front edge (in the center area) of the tip-up opens both forward and up. Consequently the gap must be a little wider than on the sides. When I installed my gas struts the clearance changed again as the struts push the canopy forward when closed. So after I got it all together I used filler to built up the aluminum piece immediately in front of the closed canopy and sanded and filed the gap until I got a really nice fit between the canopy front and the fuseladge. Now, once your canopy is on you will have to deaf with a front gasket which seals when the canopy is closed. I have tried them all and finally decided to design my own. What I developed is the perfect front seal for Van's RV aircraft with tip-up canopies. I am manufacturing 250 feet (the minimum raw materials I could order) and can give you a great price on five feet which is all you will need for that front seal. My seal has a "C" channel which slips over that rear facing edge down onto which the tip-up canopy closes. Anyone else interested in a piece? This tip-up canopy front seal, large lockable boxes for storage behind the seats in side-by-side seaters and other neat RV stuff which made my RV-6 a Reserve Grand Champion will soon appear on a web site I will soon have running at PetesRVAviationProducts.com. Or contact me directly. Pete in Clearwater RV-6 SnF 2006 Reserve Grand Champion - Kit SnF 2007 Outstanding Aircraft Homebuilt _____ See what's free at AOL.com . ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 09:48:53 PM PST US From: Carlos A Hernandez Subject: Re: RV-List: RE: Tip-Up Canopy Query William Gill wrote: > > Please post detailsprice, address, method of paymentand BTW, count > me in. > > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of > *PeterHunt1@aol.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 22, 2007 9:27 PM > *To:* rv-list-digest@matronics.com > *Subject:* RV-List: RE: Tip-Up Canopy Query > > Dwight, > > The front edge (in the center area) of the tip-up opens both forward > and up. Consequently the gap must be a little wider than on the sides. > When I installed my gas struts the clearance changed again as the > struts push the canopy forward when closed. So after I got it all > together I used filler to built up the aluminum piece immediately in > front of the closed canopy and sanded and filed the gap until I got a > really nice fit between the canopy front and the fuseladge. > > Now, once your canopy is on you will have to deaf with a front gasket > which seals when the canopy is closed. I have tried them all and > finally decided to design my own. What I developed is the perfect > front seal for Van's RV aircraft with tip-up canopies. I am > manufacturing 250 feet (the minimum raw materials I could order) and > can give you a great price on five feet which is all you will need for > that front seal. My seal has a "C" channel which slips over that rear > facing edge down onto which the tip-up canopy closes. Anyone else > interested in a piece? > > This tip-up canopy front seal, large lockable boxes for storage behind > the seats in side-by-side seaters and other neat RV stuff which made > my RV-6 a Reserve Grand Champion will soon appear on a web site I will > soon have running at PetesRVAviationProducts.com. Or contact me directly. > > Pete in Clearwater > > RV-6 SnF 2006 Reserve Grand Champion - Kit > > SnF 2007 Outstanding Aircraft Homebuilt > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > See what's free at AOL.com > . > > * * > * * > ** > * - The RV-List Email Forum -* > ** > ** > ** > ** > * --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List* > ** > * - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -* > ** > * --> http://forums.matronics.com* > ** > * * > * > > > * > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > I'm interested... Carlos in AZ ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 11:46:34 PM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: RE: Tip-Up Canopy Query In a message dated 5/22/2007 9:29:46 PM Central Daylight Time, PeterHunt1@aol.com writes: When I installed my gas struts the clearance changed again as the struts push the canopy forward when closed. 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