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1. 12:15 AM - Re: RV-List Digest: 32 Msgs - 05/23/07 (Rodney Boyd)
2. 12:21 AM - Re: skin dents (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
3. 04:30 AM - Re: FS: MT Prop Gov (Neal George)
4. 06:14 AM - Re: skin dents (Bret Smith)
5. 06:14 AM - RV-7 Elevator mismatch (James H Nelson)
6. 08:11 AM - Re: skin dents (George Inman 204 287 8334)
7. 12:47 PM - Re: skin dents (pcowper@webtv.net (Pete Cowper))
8. 03:12 PM - RV-7 Crash (Condon, Philip M.)
9. 08:06 PM - Re: skin dents (Kelly McMullen)
10. 11:47 PM - Re: skin dents (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: RV-List Digest: 32 Msgs - 05/23/07 |
I will be returning from vacation on June 4, 2007. If you need
something prior to then, please contact Bill Barry at 7070 or by email.
Rodney
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Hi Pat- FWIW, I've seen RVs that looked like they were beat together with
bricks, and the still fly great and refuse to fall out of the sky. If on close
examination it is clear that the dents have no particularly sharp edges that
might lead to cracks, then I'd suggest you just keep an eye on them and fly...
Suggest you get someone else to peruse the items in question, preferably an
experienced RV builder or EAA Tech Counselor for a 2nd or 3rd "opinion"!
Mark Phillips, builder RV-6A/RV-7A & Tech counselor, Columbia, TN
_http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/_
(http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/)
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Now there's a good idea - thanks Jim!/
New MT Propeller Governor P-860-4 for (I)O-360/(I)O-320 aft-mounted
applications.
$1075 Shipped.
Neal E. George
2023 Everglades Drive
Navarre, FL 32566
Home - 850-515-0640
Cell - 850-218-4838
It would be nice if you listed the MT governor part number. That way the
correct engine usage could be determined. Perhaps from my MT Propeller
Governor page on my website, www.lessdrag.com <http://www.lessdrag.com/>
Regards,
Jim Ayers
Less Drag Products, Inc.
805-795-5377
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Hey Mark,
I thought you gave up hammering rivets with a brick long ago...;)
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Bret Smith
RV-9A "Fuselage"
Blue Ridge, GA
www.FlightInnovations.com
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From: Fiveonepw@aol.com
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: skin dents
Hi Pat- FWIW, I've seen RVs that looked like they were beat together
with bricks, and the still fly great and refuse to fall out of the sky.
If on close examination it is clear that the dents have no particularly
sharp edges that might lead to cracks, then I'd suggest you just keep an
eye on them and fly...
Suggest you get someone else to peruse the items in question,
preferably an experienced RV builder or EAA Tech Counselor for a 2nd or
3rd "opinion"!
Mark Phillips, builder RV-6A/RV-7A & Tech counselor, Columbia, TN
http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/
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| Subject: | RV-7 Elevator mismatch |
Dave,
I had the same problem. The solution is to move one of the rod
ends in or out that suport the horiz stab. It drove me bonkers untill I
was removing the stab's and I accidently moved it only a bit rearward and
suddenly all things lined up. I then rotated the rod end one half rev
and re-assembled it and it was almost where it needed to be. I then
rotated it one more half turn and the counterweights line up and it was
great. The one rod end I rotated was the one closest to the fuselage not
the outside rod end. Problem solved!
Jim Nelson
RV9-A
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Have you thought about using a dent puller such as one
of the following
http://www.autobarn.net/xxxw-hs-7500.html
http://www.tooltopia.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=8598&ysmchn
BIZ&ysmcpn=Shopzilla&ysmgrp=Shopzilla&ysmtrm=HS%207500&ysmtac=CMP&utm_source
=Shopzilla&utm_campaign=Shopzilla&utm_term=HS%207500&utm_medium=CMP
http://www.asseenontv.com/prod-pages/pops-a-dent.html
If the dents are shallow without sharp bends it might work.
On May 23, 2007, at 07:58 287230005, Patrick Kelley wrote:
How to deal with skin dents? This may be an odd question coming from
someone whose airframe is so far done, so let me give some background. I
learned to rivet on my horizontal stabilizer. At the time, I was working
for American International Airways and I got one of the IAs to come over and
teach me. Predictably, I dented a few spots and was reassured that the
dings were slight, not structural, and would be easily covered up. So, as I
continued to build, the occasional 'oops' did not overly concern me; I got
much better at avoiding them and even when they did occur they were less
severe than my first ones.
Now fast forward to yesterday. I got a tech advisor to come out and look at
my aircraft. He's an 88 y.o. IA who knew of the RV-6A but was a little
fuzzy on the details (he didn't know the cowl was fiberglass or that piano
hinge was used to attach it, for instance). But I respected his years of
experience and followed his comments. Then he focused on the dents and said
they would HAVE to be fixed; they looked like hell.
George H. Inman
ghinman@mts.net
RV-8
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If you have a severe dent which you can reach to attempt to "hammer &
dolly" the dent, do not use both a metal hammer and metal dolly or the
aluminum will stretch. Use a softer plastic such as Delrin for the
hammer or wood or plastic for the dolly under the dent. Use multiple
light taps on aluminum as it "moves" very easily.
Rubbing a piece of wood under aluminum dents will greatly reduce most to
the extent that often an extra coat of primer will be sufficient to
block sand it smooth with no additional filler.
Pete Cowper
RV-8 #81139
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http://www.wlwt.com/news/13357582/detail.html
MARYSVILLE, Ohio -- An amateur-built plane crashed Monday in a
cornfield in central Ohio as the pilot tried to land at a small
airport, killing the two Florida men in the aircraft, authorities said.
The plane made a slow spiral as it fell and hit the ground at a sharp
angle, sending up smoke, said Dale Scheiderer, a farmer who was on his
tractor planting soybeans when he watched the plane crash into his
cornfield.
Shortly before that, the pilot had radioed Union County Airport near
the farm, notifying officials the plane was about three miles away and
was about to land, airport manager Adam Gibson said.
Wind was light and visibility was clear as the two-seat plane traveled
the length of the runway at about 10 feet off the ground, then turned
slightly left, he said.
"I saw it come in low, and then when it didn't land, I didn't
necessarily think anything of it," Gibson said. "We assumed he was
going around for another try."
But the RV-7A plane crashed nose first instead in the field south of
Marysville.
The pilot was Evan Wood, 68, and the passenger was Walter Buchholz, 73,
both of Punta Gorda, Fla., State Highway Patrol Lt. Rick Zwayer said.
The men died on impact, county Coroner David Applegate said. Autopsies
will be performed.
The plane took off from Bay City, Mich., early Monday morning, and
probably was stopping in Marysville to refuel, Zwayer said.
An RV-7A is built from a kit, which costs about $18,000 without an
engine, propeller or interior furnishing and can take about 1,500 hours
to put together, said Dick Knapinski, spokesman for the Osh Kosh,
Wis.-based Experimental Aircraft Association.
The planes must be certified as air worthy by federal aviation
regulators, he said.
Federal investigators have been informed of the crash.
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There are pros at doing this with metal "spoons" found in the phone book
under dentless auto body repair. Works as long as there is no crease and
individual is experienced with aluminum, rather than steel auto bodies.
Michael D. Cencula wrote:
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> FWIW, careful pushing with a popsicle stick or other small piece of wood can
> greatly reduce the appearance of dents in skins. I've repaired a couple
> small dents using this method in my empennage skins.
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> Mike
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> On Wednesday May 23 2007 09:58 am, Patrick Kelley wrote:
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>> How to deal with skin dents? This may be an odd question coming from
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> <snip>
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>> Phoenix) or if he is right. Comments and opinions much appreciated.
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>> Pat Kelley - RV-6A - Odd tasks while waiting for avionics.
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In a message dated 5/24/2007 8:17:10 AM Central Daylight Time,
smithhb@tds.net writes:
I thought you gave up hammering rivets with a brick long ago...;)
Nah, the "brick" is one of my favorites, along with my "chunky" and "woodle
bar"...
8-)
Mark do not archive
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