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1. 06:48 AM - Re: Eggenfelner FWF Probelm - Help! (marcausman)
2. 08:52 AM - Re: Engine sag- was Spinner to cowl clearance - How close is too close (Kevin Horton)
3. 11:27 AM - Re: Spinner to cowl clearance - How close is too close (Ron Lee)
4. 12:40 PM - Fit of Tip Up Canopy Seal (Ed Anderson)
5. 12:40 PM - Fw: Fit of Tip Up Canopy Seal II (Ed Anderson)
6. 01:01 PM - Engine Sag (PeterHunt1@aol.com)
7. 06:58 PM - Re: Re: Engine sag- was Spinner to cowl clearance - How close is too close ()
8. 08:25 PM - Re: Re: Engine sag- was Spinner to cowl clearance - How close is too close (Ken Cantrell)
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| Subject: | Re: Eggenfelner FWF Probelm - Help! |
John, the fuel pressure sensor is a bit if an oddball because you also need to
connect the sensor wire to a resistor, then to a reference voltage pin on the
EIS. Suggest reviewing the install diagram and double check. The reference voltage
keeps the sensor accurate while voltage fluctuates.
Also, if you haven't solved it by Monday, call Sandy at GRT and she has seen it
all and is very helpful.
Marc
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Marc Ausman
http://www.verticalpower.com
RV-7 IO-390 Flying
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=116039#116039
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| Subject: | Re: Engine sag- was Spinner to cowl clearance - How close is |
too close
On 2 Jun 2007, at 01:28, Fiveonepw@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 6/1/2007 10:31:59 PM Central Daylight Time,
> bobbyhester@charter.net writes:
> I set mine that high and after 65 hrs it is still at the same
> height, too high. I would set it flush with the top of the cowl.
> >>>
>
> This is a curiousity I've seen hashed over here and wondered about
> for a long time- how about a "do not archive" poll of builders who
> have actually seen engine sag or not, with perhaps some added info
> about engine type, c/s or f/p, hours, flying style etc.?
>
> Mark Phillips- O-320 RV-6A, f/p Catto 3-blade, very little high-G
> stuff, & no sag after 415 hrs with Van's standard mounts...
Van may not have always sold the same engine mounts, so the mount
manufacturer and part number are also relevant info.
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Spinner to cowl clearance - How close is too close |
I use painters tape.
Ron Lee
I would think 1/16" is too close. It will rub at start/shutdown. I
have 3/16" I think and I'm glad it's not any less. I try to use towels
between the spinner/cowl when removing/installing the cowl.
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| Subject: | Fit of Tip Up Canopy Seal |
I received the Tip Up seal from Peter Hunt, yesterday. Took it out and
test fitted it to my RV-6A Tip Up today.
The seal looks like it will work just fine for the Tip Up. Its has a
"C" section squeezed down (metal C clamp inside the rubber) so it will
firmly slip and clamp over the metal strip just below the perimeter of
the canopy forward bulkhead - the one in front of the instrument panel.
There is a round "bulb" seal on top of the "C" section which the closed
canopy skin will seat on and depress slightly to form a seal.
I am going to order 5 feet for my RV-6A - at $25 hard to beat. My
current kluged up seal using two separate seals will eventually stop
being effective.
I still have the segment of seal I was sent if anyone else around here
(Charlotte,NC) would like to test fit. However, if you do not have your
Tip-Up canopy installed - a fitting probably won't tell you much.
It appears that the only critical thing is that you located the metal
lip correctly along the bulkhead - if too low, the forward canopy skin
would probably not come down on the seal sufficient to compress it. If
too high - well, you have other problems - like closing the canopy {:>)
Here is Pete's description of his seal in case mine was unclear: My
"C" shaped gasket just slides over the rear edge of this joggle. What
makes my seal work is this. Running along the top of my "C" shaped seal
is a tiny round flexible tube. The glareshield of the canopy extends
forward of the plexiglass (outside) about 5 inches and this forward edge
closes into/over the joggle. The tiny round tube running along the top
of my "C" seal makes contact with the canopy under the front edge of the
canopy when it is closed. Nothing is visible. Just remove Van's seal
from on top of the joggle and slide mine onto the rear edge of the
joggle. No adhesive needed
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html
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| Subject: | Fw: Fit of Tip Up Canopy Seal II |
Forgot to include Pete's e mail in case any are interested in contacting
him. It is:
PeterHunt1@aol.com
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Anderson
Cc: PeterHunt1@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 3:38 PM
Subject: Fit of Tip Up Canopy Seal
I received the Tip Up seal from Peter Hunt, yesterday. Took it out and
test fitted it to my RV-6A Tip Up today.
The seal looks like it will work just fine for the Tip Up. Its has a
"C" section squeezed down (metal C clamp inside the rubber) so it will
firmly slip and clamp over the metal strip just below the perimeter of
the canopy forward bulkhead - the one in front of the instrument panel.
There is a round "bulb" seal on top of the "C" section which the closed
canopy skin will seat on and depress slightly to form a seal.
I am going to order 5 feet for my RV-6A - at $25 hard to beat. My
current kluged up seal using two separate seals will eventually stop
being effective.
I still have the segment of seal I was sent if anyone else around here
(Charlotte,NC) would like to test fit. However, if you do not have your
Tip-Up canopy installed - a fitting probably won't tell you much.
It appears that the only critical thing is that you located the metal
lip correctly along the bulkhead - if too low, the forward canopy skin
would probably not come down on the seal sufficient to compress it. If
too high - well, you have other problems - like closing the canopy {:>)
Here is Pete's description of his seal in case mine was unclear: My
"C" shaped gasket just slides over the rear edge of this joggle. What
makes my seal work is this. Running along the top of my "C" shaped seal
is a tiny round flexible tube. The glareshield of the canopy extends
forward of the plexiglass (outside) about 5 inches and this forward edge
closes into/over the joggle. The tiny round tube running along the top
of my "C" seal makes contact with the canopy under the front edge of the
canopy when it is closed. Nothing is visible. Just remove Van's seal
from on top of the joggle and slide mine onto the rear edge of the
joggle. No adhesive needed
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html
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I built my engine cowl such that the spinner was 3/16 inches high because so
many claimed the engine would sag. That did NOT happen to mine. After 200
hours the spinner remained just as high. No engine sag occurred. Well, I
didn't like how it looked so I inserted an extra washer next to the engine on
the two top engine mount bolts. Spinner alignment looks very good now and I
didn't notice any performance change.
I installed a new O-360-A1A with CS prop. My experience is that if you
torque everything properly there is no measurable engine sag with time.
Pete In Clearwater
RV-6, all electric panel
Reserve Grand Champion, Outstanding Aircraft - Sun 'n Fun 2006, 2007
************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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| Subject: | Re: Engine sag- was Spinner to cowl clearance - How close |
is too close
Motor mount sag ? ? I was told that there would be sag and to leave more of an
openning at the bottom. So I set it with about 5/16 at the top (fingertip) and
3/8 at the top (thumbnail) at the bottom. IO540 with 4 bladed M/T ptop. After
six years & hundreds of flights I'm still awaiting the morning that they even
out during preflight. The 3/8" at the bottom leaves just enough for replacing
the lower cowl without forcing the issue. I have the shim washers required ready
as soon as it sags.....BUT I may have to get new shim washers, these are begining
to rust...8*) KABONG
>From: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
>Date: 2007/06/02 Sat AM 10:50:23 CDT
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Engine sag- was Spinner to cowl clearance - How close is
too close
>
>On 2 Jun 2007, at 01:28, Fiveonepw@aol.com wrote:
>
>> In a message dated 6/1/2007 10:31:59 PM Central Daylight Time,
>> bobbyhester@charter.net writes:
>> I set mine that high and after 65 hrs it is still at the same
>> height, too high. I would set it flush with the top of the cowl.
>> >>>
>>
>> This is a curiousity I've seen hashed over here and wondered about
>> for a long time- how about a "do not archive" poll of builders who
>> have actually seen engine sag or not, with perhaps some added info
>> about engine type, c/s or f/p, hours, flying style etc.?
>>
>> Mark Phillips- O-320 RV-6A, f/p Catto 3-blade, very little high-G
>> stuff, & no sag after 415 hrs with Van's standard mounts...
>
>Van may not have always sold the same engine mounts, so the mount
>manufacturer and part number are also relevant info.
>
>Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
>Ottawa, Canada
>http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8
>do not archive
>
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| Subject: | Re: Engine sag- was Spinner to cowl clearance - How close |
is too close
My two bits is to run the engine for a couple of times before mounting the
cowl to the fuselage. This is what I did 5 years and 620 hours ago. This
provides enough shake-down to settle in it's permanent spot.
Never had any engine sag...
Ken Cantrell
Ph: 209-747-2903
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jhstarn@verizon.net
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: Re: RV-List: Engine sag- was Spinner to cowl clearance - How
close is too close
Motor mount sag ? ? I was told that there would be sag and to leave more of
an openning at the bottom. So I set it with about 5/16 at the top
(fingertip) and 3/8 at the top (thumbnail) at the bottom. IO540 with 4
bladed M/T ptop. After six years & hundreds of flights I'm still awaiting
the morning that they even out during preflight. The 3/8" at the bottom
leaves just enough for replacing the lower cowl without forcing the issue. I
have the shim washers required ready as soon as it sags.....BUT I may have
to get new shim washers, these are begining to rust...8*) KABONG
>From: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
>Date: 2007/06/02 Sat AM 10:50:23 CDT
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Engine sag- was Spinner to cowl clearance - How close
is too close
>
>On 2 Jun 2007, at 01:28, Fiveonepw@aol.com wrote:
>
>> In a message dated 6/1/2007 10:31:59 PM Central Daylight Time,
>> bobbyhester@charter.net writes:
>> I set mine that high and after 65 hrs it is still at the same
>> height, too high. I would set it flush with the top of the cowl.
>> >>>
>>
>> This is a curiousity I've seen hashed over here and wondered about
>> for a long time- how about a "do not archive" poll of builders who
>> have actually seen engine sag or not, with perhaps some added info
>> about engine type, c/s or f/p, hours, flying style etc.?
>>
>> Mark Phillips- O-320 RV-6A, f/p Catto 3-blade, very little high-G
>> stuff, & no sag after 415 hrs with Van's standard mounts...
>
>Van may not have always sold the same engine mounts, so the mount
>manufacturer and part number are also relevant info.
>
>Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
>Ottawa, Canada
>http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8
>do not archive
>
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