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1. 04:21 AM - Garmin Foretrex 101 -- great cheap GPS (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
2. 02:31 PM - RV Flight Bags/Better Pictures (kirt klevin)
3. 06:40 PM - NW RV Fly-in (Randy Lervold)
4. 06:54 PM - Denver to Eugene (JVanLaak@aol.com)
5. 07:35 PM - Re: RV Flight Bags/Better Pictures (Greg Williams)
6. 07:38 PM - Re: RV Flight Bags/Better Pictures (Richard E. Tasker)
7. 07:42 PM - Interfacing Garmin GI-106A (CDI) to GNS430 "or" SL30 nav receiver sections (Garey Wittich)
8. 08:08 PM - Re: transponder & comm antenna separation RV-6/7 (Emrath)
9. 08:24 PM - Re: Denver to Eugene (David Maib)
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| Subject: | Garmin Foretrex 101 -- great cheap GPS |
I hesitate to post this to these sophisticated lists, but I can't resist!
Last week I bought a Garmin Foretrex 101 GPS at ALDI (a grocery store) for
$59.95. It will operate about 15 hours on two AAA batteries and weighs about 3
ounces, and has a 12 channel receiver with WAAS. It has NEMA out which means
it could conceivably send data to an autopilot -- I don't have the serial
cable to try this yet.
Yesterday I tried it out in my RV-7A on a 50 mile trip. Wow! It worked
perfectly. You have to program the airports manually out of the Airport
Directory, but you can assign an airplane icon and name them with the identifiers,
etc.
It will hold up to 500 waypoints. You can set the units to NAUTICAL for
speed and distance. It may be possible to download a data base from a PC since
it has the serial interface.
This is an amazing little GPS.
Dan Hopper
Walton, IN
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| Subject: | RV Flight Bags/Better Pictures |
Thanks to many of you who have ordered our Flight Bags and Chart Cases. I know
that a few of you have had trouble viewing the pictures on the photoshack site
so I have uploaded them to the Photobucket site which seems to work much better.
Flight Bags:
http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb290/BisonMountain/
Chart Cases:
http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/...20Chart%20Case/
(Product Descriptions are attached below)
Regards,
Kurt
OKC,OK
RV6A, 165 hours
RV Flight Bag Description:
Custom RV Flight Bag (Fits RV-6/7/9) This custom flight bag was designed to fit
behind the pilots and co-pilots seat of the RV-6/7/9. It fits over the flap actuator
bar and makes maximum use of the area behind your seat, keeps the CG as
forward as possible and maximizes remaining cargo space. It's 18in high and
12.5in wide. It has a very large main cargo area easily accessible with a large
zipper flap. There are two side pockets, one 10" x 4 " and a 7" x 5 1/2 in map
pocket. The rear side of the bag has a pencil/flashlight/fuel tester pocket,
a 10in x 7in headset pocket, and a 6inx 5 1/4in pocket for small tools. The
material and zippers are heavy duty and will last a long time. It has a nice carrying
handle and comes with two straps that can be attached to your seat back
to clip the bag to your seat to minimize movement. If you are interested in
ordering one for your RV drop me a note at BisonMountain@yahoo.com. The cost is
$89 ($85 for two or more) plus shipping to your
address. Currently the only colors they have are black and gray. Its a nice way
to clean up the cargo area and looks
Chart Case Product Description:
As you know, the key to keeping everything you need within reach in a small cockpit
can be a challenge to say the least. Our new Chart Case is designed to
fit on the floor, between the pilot and passenger, of your RV or production aircraft.
It allows your approach charts, enroute charts, sectionals, WACs, pencils,
flashlights, hand held radios, and other miscellaneous items to be stored
in easy reach without having to climb over your seat to reach items in your cargo
area. The Chart Case is 10.5 inches long, 8.75 in high, and 4.5 in wide and
weighs 1 pound, 4 oz. The main compartment has a durable double zipper that
allows full access to the interior. The Chart Case has 410 cubic inches of storage
area and comes with a divider that can be adjusted to hold any combination
of items. The divider is adjustable to any number of dimensions and will create
2 interior pockets as small as 2 inches on one side and 8 on the other and
every dimension in between. The divider can also
be removed to make the bag one large compartment. The interior divider and main
compartment double zipper also allows one top compartment to remain open for
often used items (approach charts), and the remaining compartment zipped closed.
The extra portion of the top cover is tucked neatly next to the divider and
less used items are out of view and your cockpit will look sharp and organized.
.The Chart Case has two side map pockets designed to fit checklists, flight
computers, calculators, sectionals, WACs, and Jeppesen or NOS enroute charts.
Both of these pockets have Velcro straps to keep your items locked in while
transporting the Chart Case. The rear pocket of the Chart Case has a zippered
4 inch by 6.5 inch pocket for just about anything. The front of the Chart Case
has a multi-purpose holder for pens, pencils, smaller flashlights, and fuel strainers.
Attached to the front of the case is a durable carrying handle that
makes inserting and removing the Chart Case
simple. A removable over the shoulder carrying strap is also included. The chart
case is made of the same durable Curdura material found in our RV Flight Bags
and is also available in grey and black. The Bison Mountain Chart Case sells
for $49. Two or more can be purchased for $45 each. If you would like an order
form simply email us at: BisonMountain@yahoo.com
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Don't forget the 16th annual Northwest RV Fly-In, coming up this
Saturday.
Also this week, Thursday the 14th to be exact, is the EAA chapter 105
Drive-Out/Fly-Out/BBQ/Meeting at Vernonia. All are welcome, members or
not.
Anyone flying out, use this list to offer up available right seats.
Details on both at www.eaa105.org
Randy Lervold
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| Subject: | Denver to Eugene |
Listers,
I will be taking the family on our first trip through the Northwest by light
plane and would appreciate your wisdom on the route and maybe a place or two
to stop. Although I have a lovely RV-6 this trip needs three seats and is
in a Comanche 250.
We are actually starting out in Hampton VA, but the flight across the plains
is a no brainer. What concerns me is leaving out of Boulder, CO and landing
at Eugene, OR. We can make about 150 knots and should be able to handle the
altitude without trouble, but I do worry about winds and other mountain
hazards. Your advice about routes to stay near the main highways, good gas
stops, and any other wisdom is appreciated. I am an Air Force trained jet jocky
but am very respectful of the hazards of being down among 'em and know enough
to ask for advice.
Thanks in advance and please reply off list.
Do not archive.
Jim Van Laak
RV-6 N79RL
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| Subject: | Re: RV Flight Bags/Better Pictures |
Can you reach into these in flight?
On 6/11/07, kirt klevin <rv6aokcity@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks to many of you who have ordered our Flight Bags and Chart Cases. I
> know that a few of you have had trouble viewing the pictures on the
> photoshack site so I have uploaded them to the Photobucket site which seems
> to work much better.
>
> Flight Bags:
> http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb290/BisonMountain/
>
> Chart Cases:
> http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/...20Chart%20Case/
>
> (Product Descriptions are attached below)
>
> Regards,
>
> Kurt
> OKC,OK
> RV6A, 165 hours
>
>
> *RV Flight Bag Description*:
>
> Custom RV Flight Bag (Fits RV-6/7/9) This custom flight bag was designed
> to fit behind the pilots and co-pilots seat of the RV-6/7/9. It fits over
> the flap actuator bar and makes maximum use of the area behind your seat,
> keeps the CG as forward as possible and maximizes remaining cargo space.
> It's 18in high and 12.5in wide. It has a very large main cargo area easily
> accessible with a large zipper flap. There are two side pockets, one 10" x 4
> " and a 7" x 5 1/2 in map pocket. The rear side of the bag has a
> pencil/flashlight/fuel tester pocket, a 10in x 7in headset pocket, and a
> 6inx 5 1/4in pocket for small tools. The material and zippers are heavy duty
> and will last a long time. It has a nice carrying handle and comes with two
> straps that can be attached to your seat back to clip the bag to your seat
> to minimize movement. If you are interested in ordering one for your RV drop
> me a note at BisonMountain@yahoo.com<http://us.f632.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=BisonMountain@yahoo.com>.
> The cost is $89 ($85 for two or more) plus shipping to your address.
> Currently the only colors they have are black and gray. Its a nice way to
> clean up the cargo area and looks
>
> *Chart Case Product Description:*
>
> As you know, the key to keeping everything you need within reach in a
> small cockpit can be a challenge to say the least. Our new Chart Case is
> designed to fit on the floor, between the pilot and passenger, of your RV or
> production aircraft. It allows your approach charts, enroute charts,
> sectionals, WAC's, pencils, flashlights, hand held radios, and other
> miscellaneous items to be stored in easy reach without having to climb over
> your seat to reach items in your cargo area. The Chart Case is 10.5 inches
> long, 8.75 in high, and 4.5 in wide and weighs 1 pound, 4 oz. The main
> compartment has a durable double zipper that allows full access to the
> interior. The Chart Case has 410 cubic inches of storage area and comes with
> a divider that can be adjusted to hold any combination of items. The divider
> is adjustable to any number of dimensions and will create 2 interior pockets
> as small as 2 inches on one side and 8 on the other and every dimension in
> between. The divider can also be removed to make the bag one large
> compartment. The interior divider and main compartment double zipper also
> allows one top compartment to remain open for often used items (approach
> charts), and the remaining compartment zipped closed. The extra portion of
> the top cover is tucked neatly next to the divider and less used items are
> out of view and your cockpit will look sharp and organized. .The Chart Case
> has two side map pockets designed to fit checklists, flight computers,
> calculators, sectionals, WAC's, and Jeppesen or NOS enroute charts. Both of
> these pockets have Velcro straps to keep your items locked in while
> transporting the Chart Case. The rear pocket of the Chart Case has a
> zippered 4 inch by 6.5 inch pocket for just about anything. The front of
> the Chart Case has a multi-purpose holder for pens, pencils, smaller
> flashlights, and fuel strainers. Attached to the front of the case is a
> durable carrying handle that makes inserting and removing the Chart Case
> simple. A removable over the shoulder carrying strap is also included. The
> chart case is made of the same durable Curdura material found in our RV
> Flight Bags and is also available in grey and black. The Bison Mountain
> Chart Case sells for $49. Two or more can be purchased for $45 each. If you
> would like an order form simply email us at: BisonMountain@yahoo.com<http://us.f632.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=BisonMountain@yahoo.com>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV Flight Bags/Better Pictures |
The flight bag pictures are great, but the chart case URL is missing
parts if it (note the ... in your URL listing) so doesn't come up :-( .
Dick Tasker
kirt klevin wrote:
> Thanks to many of you who have ordered our Flight Bags and Chart
> Cases. I know that a few of you have had trouble viewing the pictures
> on the photoshack site so I have uploaded them to the Photobucket site
> which seems to work much better.
>
> Flight Bags:
> http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb290/BisonMountain/
>
> Chart Cases:
> http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/...20Chart%20Case/
>
> (Product Descriptions are attached below)
>
> Regards,
>
> Kurt
> OKC,OK
> RV6A, 165 hours
>
>
> *RV Flight Bag Description*:
>
> Custom RV Flight Bag (Fits RV-6/7/9) This custom flight bag was
> designed to fit behind the pilots and co-pilots seat of the RV-6/7/9.
> It fits over the flap actuator bar and makes maximum use of the area
> behind your seat, keeps the CG as forward as possible and maximizes
> remaining cargo space. It's 18in high and 12.5in wide. It has a very
> large main cargo area easily accessible with a large zipper flap.
> There are two side pockets, one 10" x 4 " and a 7" x 5 1/2 in map
> pocket. The rear side of the bag has a pencil/flashlight/fuel tester
> pocket, a 10in x 7in headset pocket, and a 6inx 5 1/4in pocket for
> small tools. The material and zippers are heavy duty and will last a
> long time. It has a nice carrying handle and comes with two straps
> that can be attached to your seat back to clip the bag to your seat to
> minimize movement. If you are interested in ordering one for your RV
> drop me a note at BisonMountain@yahoo.com
> <http://us.f632.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=BisonMountain@yahoo.com>.
> The cost is $89 ($85 for two or more) plus shipping to your address.
> Currently the only colors they have are black and gray. Its a nice way
> to clean up the cargo area and looks
>
> *Chart Case Product Description:*
>
> As you know, the key to keeping everything you need within reach in a
> small cockpit can be a challenge to say the least. Our new Chart Case
> is designed to fit on the floor, between the pilot and passenger, of
> your RV or production aircraft. It allows your approach charts,
> enroute charts, sectionals, WAC's, pencils, flashlights, hand held
> radios, and other miscellaneous items to be stored in easy reach
> without having to climb over your seat to reach items in your cargo
> area. The Chart Case is 10.5 inches long, 8.75 in high, and 4.5 in
> wide and weighs 1 pound, 4 oz. The main compartment has a durable
> double zipper that allows full access to the interior. The Chart Case
> has 410 cubic inches of storage area and comes with a divider that can
> be adjusted to hold any combination of items. The divider is
> adjustable to any number of dimensions and will create 2 interior
> pockets as small as 2 inches on one side and 8 on the other and every
> dimension in between. The divider can also be removed to make the bag
> one large compartment. The interior divider and main compartment
> double zipper also allows one top compartment to remain open for often
> used items (approach charts), and the remaining compartment zipped
> closed. The extra portion of the top cover is tucked neatly next to
> the divider and less used items are out of view and your cockpit will
> look sharp and organized. .The Chart Case has two side map pockets
> designed to fit checklists, flight computers, calculators, sectionals,
> WAC's, and Jeppesen or NOS enroute charts. Both of these pockets have
> Velcro straps to keep your items locked in while transporting the
> Chart Case. The rear pocket of the Chart Case has a zippered 4 inch by
> 6.5 inch pocket for just about anything. The front of the Chart Case
> has a multi-purpose holder for pens, pencils, smaller flashlights, and
> fuel strainers. Attached to the front of the case is a durable
> carrying handle that makes inserting and removing the Chart Case
> simple. A removable over the shoulder carrying strap is also included.
> The chart case is made of the same durable Curdura material found in
> our RV Flight Bags and is also available in grey and black. The Bison
> Mountain Chart Case sells for $49. Two or more can be purchased for
> $45 each. If you would like an order form simply email us at:
> BisonMountain@yahoo.com
> <http://us.f632.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=BisonMountain@yahoo.com>
>
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| Subject: | Interfacing Garmin GI-106A (CDI) to GNS430 "or" SL30 nav receiver |
sections
Considering this as an option. If GNS430 fails, then
the SL30 could drive the GI106A providing VOR, LOC and
ILS capabilities. (Do NOT see that the SL30 on it's
front panel displays ILS guidance, just LOC and VOR.)
Has anybody done this ???? If so would you share the
Wiring Diagram. Seems to me that all that is required
are some DPDT Relays to select the nav signals from
the GNS430 or SL30 and feed them to the GI-106A. Hate
to spent time re-inventing the wheel when it has
already been done.
Thanks, Garey Wittich
Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search
that gives answers, not web links.
http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC
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| Subject: | Re: transponder & comm antenna separation RV-6/7 |
Tom: Gary is a good source and have been flying a long time, so he's
probably a good source of advice. I've seen where some tri-gears have put
the transponder center forward up by the firewall, exiting between the
exhaust pipes but not in the way of any exhaust. Then mount dual com
antenna's forward of the spar on each side outboard as far as they will go.
Don't know how this works, however, but I may soon mount my antenna's this
way. One for the com and one as a hook up for a stand-by handheld on the
pilots side. Makes for short run of the transponder cable, that's for
certain.
Marty, loading radios in panel, RV-6A
Time: 12:02:38 PM PST US
From: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: transponder & comm antenna separation RV-6/7
Tom:
I have TWO comm antennas mounted on the floor forward of the SPAR as far
outboard as I can get them. I have the transponder antenna located exactly
1/2 way between them. The transponder antenna runs down the center console
to it.
My -6 has been flying almost 10 years. I have over 2,000 hobbs hours on it.
KT-76A
GX-60
SL-30
I prefer to not run the coax aft of the spar. I am able to reach one of the
comm antenna while flying. If I needed to connect a handheld to it, I
could. It is NOT easy but it could be done in an emergency.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
2,004 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
<sarg314@comcast.net<mailto:sarg314@comcast.net>>
I just read in my Garmin GTX327 transponder installation manual that I
should "avoid" placing the transponder antenna within 3 feet of any comm
antenna. I assume because transmission on one can disturb reception on
the other.
I was advised by one of the guys at Vans to place the transponder
antenna under the passenger seat at the outboard side and the comm
antenna under the pilot seat just left of the central channel, that is,
in the "channel" adjacent to the central channel.
I like this placement. It keeps the cables fairly short and the antennas
aren't hard to get to. I don't like that it puts the comm antenna
fairly close to the gear legs (about 1/4 wave), but I guess you have to
make some compromises. However it puts the xponder only about 2 ft from
the comm.
Has any one who has done this noticed any interference between the comm
and transponder?
(or for that matter distortion of the comm transmission pattern due to
the gear legs?)
--
Tom Sargent
RV-6A, electrical system.
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| Subject: | Re: Denver to Eugene |
Jim,
My wife and I took our elderly Bonanza to Oregon/Washington from Ft.
Collins, CO two years ago. I planned the heck out of the trip and
talked to folks who had lots of experience over that route in light
aircraft. We headed NNW out of Ft. Collins and intercepted Interstate
90 up in Wyoming and followed it all the way to Washington. Sorry I
don't have a chart with me, so cannot tell you exactly where. We were
blessed with excellent weather both ways. I am a very experienced IFR
pilot, but would have been very reluctant to go IFR on some of the
route due to high MEA/MOCA. I was able to get radar flight following
almost all of the way at altitudes of 8500 to 10,500. We did carry
and use supplemental oxygen for the higher altitudes. I cannot
remember the order of the places we stopped for fuel without a map,
but I know that on the outbound and the inbound trips we stopped at
Butte, Bozeman, and another one or two that I cannot remember right
now. As I recall, the highest pass on I-90 is around 7000 feet. Get
some mountain flying instruction if you can. If not, get a good book
on the subject and remain cautious, as you seem to be. It was the
trip of a lifetime for my wife and I. Two weeks of wondering around
the Pacific NW with no particular schedule.
Have fun!
David Maib
RV-10 40559
Wings
On Jun 11, 2007, at 8:54 PM, JVanLaak@aol.com wrote:
> Listers,
>
> I will be taking the family on our first trip through the Northwest
> by light plane and would appreciate your wisdom on the route and
> maybe a place or two to stop. Although I have a lovely RV-6 this
> trip needs three seats and is in a Comanche 250.
>
> We are actually starting out in Hampton VA, but the flight across
> the plains is a no brainer. What concerns me is leaving out of
> Boulder, CO and landing at Eugene, OR. We can make about 150 knots
> and should be able to handle the altitude without trouble, but I do
> worry about winds and other mountain hazards. Your advice about
> routes to stay near the main highways, good gas stops, and any
> other wisdom is appreciated. I am an Air Force trained jet jocky
> but am very respectful of the hazards of being down among 'em and
> know enough to ask for advice.
>
> Thanks in advance and please reply off list.
>
> Do not archive.
>
> Jim Van Laak
> RV-6 N79RL
>
>
> See what's free at AOL.com.
>
>
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