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1. 04:53 AM - Connector for copilot stick grip (Ralph Hoover)
2. 07:57 AM - Re: Connector for copilot stick grip (glen matejcek)
3. 08:57 AM - Re: Connector for copilot stick grip (Christopher Stone)
4. 04:29 PM - Re: Garmin Foretrex 101 (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
5. 06:56 PM - Re: Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again) ()
6. 07:37 PM - East Coast to Yellowstone! (Larry Bowen)
7. 08:15 PM - Re: East Coast to Yellowstone! (Walter Tondu)
8. 09:54 PM - Re: Re: Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again) (PittsS1@aol.com)
9. 10:35 PM - Re: Re: Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again) (Jerry Springer)
10. 10:42 PM - Re: Re: Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again) (Konrad L. Werner)
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| Subject: | Connector for copilot stick grip |
Grant,
I used a PS2 extension cable cut in half which gives you 6 wires and
fits nicely inside the stick the extra cable that allows you to align
the plugs also holds things together when installed. I drilled a 3/16
hole through the stick and socket (one wall of each) A pin (PEM standoff
from the junk box) attached to a hose clamp secures the stick. When I'm
home I'll get a picture.
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Ralph C. Hoover
RV7A
hooverra at verizon dot net
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| Subject: | RE: Connector for copilot stick grip |
Hi Grant-
Re: I'm wondering what others have done to allow quick
disconnect and removal of the copilot stick.
I got an annular connector from RS. I think it was about 6 pin, and once
the outer housing was scrapped, the ass'y fit quite nicely within the
copilot stick. Same arrangement to get the elev trim connex through that
pesky hole in the elev.
glen matejcek
aerobubba@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Re: Connector for copilot stick grip |
R.e. stick connector
Amp Mini Mate-N-Lock
Available in 2,4,6,8,10 pin configurations.
Small body with secure locking tab. Easy to install. Will handle 16 amps max.
We used these for all power and instrument connections to the panel and sticks.
Digi-Key has them.
Chris Stone
Pair of -8's
Newberg, OR
-----Original Message-----
>From: Grant Neilson <grantneilson@telus.net>
>Sent: Jun 15, 2007 3:32 PM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: Connector for copilot stick grip
>
>
>I'm setting up dual trim and dual PTT in my RV9A using RAC pistol grips on
>both pilot & copilot sides, but would still like to remove the copilot stick
>once in a while when the wife stays home and I want to carry extra baggage
>on the passenger side. I'm wondering what others have done to allow quick
>disconnect and removal of the copilot stick. The inside diameter of the
>stick is about 3/4 inch, and I would need a six pin (circular?) connector.
>Any photos of others' efforts and sources for such a connector would be
>greatly appreciated.
>
>Grant Neilson
>Campbell River, B.C.
>RV9A, wiring
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin Foretrex 101 |
I found that the Foretrex 101 talks to Garmin's Mapsource program just fine.
You can upload and download waypoints.
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again) |
What?
>"Perhaps You can do this using the scrabble after your name
> rather than throw rocks. I am pleased that as an ATP you have
>"the sky is falling" approach to his passengers' safety. When I
>get to this point on my airplane I will review my options."
I am not throwing any stones. Me? What is wrong with you people?
First Konrad Werner or Wiener spews a mass BS rant rave void of
facts now you. I just am sticking to the facts. I love new RV builders.
It's a disease with new builders, they are suckers for any gadget.
I brought up legate concern and my opinion, I think it's a bad idea.
Deal with it. Your sarcasm is noted, but you still can't tell me what it
offers over the stock design, besides some rant.
>"If I was really concerned, perhaps a mission profie of around the
>world no-stop, I would calculate an exhaust velocity based on
>rpm, displacement and temperature change, to develop a
>pressure profile and a estimate of the effect on crankcase
>pressure.
Based on the fact you are working on your wings I'm pretty sure you
never have installed an engine on a RV before. May be you should
learn something first. Not sure where you're going, but it sounds like
you suspect more oil loss? (more oil loss is likely with suction)
The bottom line is it offers nil improvement over the RV engine
installation plan's, which probably you've never seen yet. What has
been suggested will be more involved, probably weigh more, cost
more and take more time to fabricate and install. Are you going to
use a drag race back flow valve? If you have something smart to say
than say it, other wise you sound churlish and foolish; geee, you are
welcome. Is it possible I have a point? You'll learn I guess later?
I have researched it, called Moroso and Lycoming. At least I bring
some facts to the discussion and not just rhetoric and personal
attacks. You may not like my opinion, fine, but to attack me because
I make my living flying makes you sound, juvenile and ridiculous.
I helped one guy at the airport with his RV. At one time we had over
20 flying RV's at one field, so we all got lots of experience with RV's.
We also did formation flying and dog fighting, great fun. Well this guy
was losing oil and lots of it. I looked at his plane and saw his vent
tube was not cut at an angle. So I beveled the vent tube at an approx
30-45 degree angle, into the airflow or forward, per Van's plan's,
and that solved it. (please do not write and tell me the 45 goes
down stream of the free air flow, you're wrong). Get some finishing
plans. I suspect many EXPERTS out there throwing temper tantrums
have never finished a RV or flown one more than once or twice. I
have about 1,200 hours in RV's, so there, I do know more than you.
Writing I'm an ATP, fly jets and graduate degree in engineering
brings out all the haters. That kind of bigotry, prejudice and
ignorance has no place in an intellectual discussion. To make
assumptions of my life experience is really quite ignorant. You don't
know me. Frankly as petty, rude and immature some of you all
sound, I don't want to know you.
Many engineers come from a strong mechanical background, that
is why they choose the profession. Clearly it is not for the love. It's
definitely a difficult curriculum, math, physics, materials, mechanism,
design, chemistry, fluid dynamics, statics, dynamics, electrical,
vibrations, fatigue, fracture mechanics, composites, manufacturing and
many more general and elective courses. However I was building cars,
motorcycles and electronics well before I went to engineering school.
The sad thing is many have no clue what engineers do, which breeds
contempt. Also not everything is "designed" by engineers. On the
other hand there are creative people with little education.
I don't claim my resume makes me right, but I have built two RV's
and helped build and finish several more; I've been at it over 20
years, starting my first RV in the mid 80's when I was in my 20's.
One of my RV's, I am proud to say won a workmanship award at the
EAA fly-in. I had just finished painting it, and it was pretty. That same
plane also beat out higher HP RV's in a spruce aircraft cross country
race. I have been a mechanic, built engines (planes, cars, bikes),
even worked in a shipyard as a ship-fitter to get money for college.
So I do more the crunch numbers and "throw stones". I just don't
understand the hate and jealousy, its immature man. Grow up.
Flying is a small community and I am the kind of guy that would go
out of my way to help you if you needed it. Most people in aviation
and especially experimental planes are nice. Sadly as it gets more
common, the folks with attitudes come in and just can't be told
anything. I wish I was as smart as you when I started out over 20
years go building planes FOR FUN. It is suppose to be fun, relax.
>I would calculate a <snip> pressure profile and a estimate of the
>effect on crankcase pressure.
Do you know that the normal crank case pressure is in a Lycoming? I
do I've measured it.
Do you know how to measure it? I do, and its real cool.
I am all ears now; what is the pressure based on exhaust velocity
going to be? Frankly you can directly and easily measure it. I would
use a RV and go up and flight test it, measure it right off the crank
and exhaust. Of course the BUNG you use in the pipe will have huge
affect on the suction you pull, not to mention how far down the pipe it
is to the exit. One cylinder or past a collector? Lots to think about.
I want to see someones design. Draw it up, scan it, post it to a free
picture file-share site and post the URL. I want to see how great it is,
not to throw stones but to learn or may be copy it, if its brilliant.
I also like to know what "extra HP" you get. As far as keeping the belly
clean, I doubt it would improve that. A healthy Lyc blurbs little oil out
the breather. Again like a broke record the stock set up works well,
so why change it. Sorry if I am using logic again, its not fair I know.
I'm not going to apologize for cautioning builders to be careful. When
it comes to engines, flight controls, structures and critical systems
like fuel systems, I am very conservative. Again DO WHAT YOU
LIKE. Ignore me and just do it. I don't know what your problem is.
You all are like a fanatic that demands I must accept their belief. I
don't accept it or do I care what you do any more. According to mr.
wiener its going to gain all kinds of HP like a "turbo charger". Right,
OK, that's nice. Prove it. Really it's just BS frankly and I laugh, ha ha.
For those who do make this modified vent system and want to use a
scientific approach, taking some empirical data, I can help. I have
ideas for any interested person; you can write me off list. However if
all you're going to do is whine and cry like a baby because I'm not
thrilled with the idea, your jealous of "college boys" or pilots with
ATP's and type ratings, than don't write, you're wasting my time
time and everyone else's on the list. I have other people I can help
who do appreciate it. Send your hate mail direct, so I can really tell
you what I think of you or ignore it, but don't jug up the list with spew.
>I however, am loading the G-35 to camp overnight at U87
>with my sweetie. That is what is important to me.
** Look at your Bonanza vent and tell me what you see. **
Flown all over Idaho, spent many a day at Johnson creek 3U2 in my
RV camping with my "sweetie". I use to fly for Horizon Air.
Cheers George (last name withheld because its none of your business)
>From: Sherman Butler <lsbrv7a@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again)
>George,
>If I was really concerned, perhaps a mission profie of around the
world no-stop, I would calculate an exhaust velocity based on rpm,
displacement and temperature change, to develop a pressure profile
and a estimate of the effect on crankcase pressure. Perhaps You
can do this using the scrabble after your name rather than throw
rocks. I am pleased that as an ATP you have "the sky is falling"
approach to his passengers' safety. When I get to this point on my
airplane I will review my options.
>
>I however, am loading the G-35 to camp overnight at U87
>with my sweetie. That is what is important to me.
>
>
>Do Not archive
>
>Sherman Butler
>RV-7a Wings
>Idaho Falls
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| Subject: | East Coast to Yellowstone! |
Several RV's from the east coast went to Cody, WY last week to check out
Yellowstone. What an adventure! For me, it ranks right up there with the
first flight as far as accomplishments go! Notes, pics and video here:
http://bowenaero.com/mt3/2007/06/yellowstone_200.html
Enjoy.
--
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
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| Subject: | Re: East Coast to Yellowstone! |
On 06/16 10:36, Larry Bowen wrote:
> Several RV's from the east coast went to Cody, WY last week to check out
> Yellowstone. What an adventure! For me, it ranks right up there with the
> first flight as far as accomplishments go! Notes, pics and video here:
>
> http://bowenaero.com/mt3/2007/06/yellowstone_200.html
Fantastic! Great pictures, naration and video.
--
Walter Tondu
http://www.rv7-a.com - Flying!
http://www.evorocket.com - Building
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| Subject: | Re: Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again) |
rv wings ... with you experience its easy ... get a life
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| Subject: | Re: Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again) |
While I have made a ton of friends and probably a few enemies on this
list and also got to be friends with Matt, our list administrator
while testing his fantastic FuelScan unit I think the useful life of the
list has come to an end for me. I built my RV-6 and made the first flight on
July 14 1989. There are so many beautiful airplanes and neat ideas now
that were not thought of when I was building, and the kits have changed
drastically over the last twenty years. My RV-6 would be considered
archaic by today's standards so for me to have helpful hints for today's
builders
as a previous builder is not as feasible as it use to be. I have
probably stayed longer than I would have if I did not have so much
respect for Matt Dralle
and the tremendous amount of work he puts into these lists. As the
internet has grown over the years there are many resources available to
builders
so getting any information I may need the future is not a problem.
I am really sorry to see how the information on the list has many time
turned into long threads about things other than RV's, that have no use
to me whatsoever.
I am really busy now in the process of getting two homes ready to sell
and to start a new life with my "sweetheart"
So for the time being anyway I am going to unsubscribe from the RV-List.
Hope to see a lot of you at Arlington EAA flyin this July, if you are
there come by and say hello.
Don't kill each other over things said on this list, life is to short.
Signing off
Jerry
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| Subject: | Re: Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again) |
Dear George whoever,
You still have not answered my question: What did a Mr. John Porter say
to you for you to say the following about him:
>>...because some dude "John Porter" says do it, but he has never done
it himself...<<
PLEASE DO fill me in on what he said to you for you to respond to him
the way you did, IF YOU CAN???
Most sincerely,
Konrad
P.S.
My last name was always clearly disclosed, contrary to yours... Need
new glasses to read properly???
----- Original Message -----
From: gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com
To: rv-list@matronics.com ; lsbrv7a@yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 7:55 PM
Subject: RV-List: Re: Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again)
What?
>"Perhaps You can do this using the scrabble after your name
> rather than throw rocks. I am pleased that as an ATP you have
>"the sky is falling" approach to his passengers' safety. When I
>get to this point on my airplane I will review my options."
I am not throwing any stones. Me? What is wrong with you people?
First Konrad Werner or Wiener spews a mass BS rant rave void of
facts now you. I just am sticking to the facts. I love new RV
builders.
SNIP-------
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