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1. 03:24 AM - Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again) ()
2. 04:28 AM - Re: Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again) (Bob J.)
3. 09:03 AM - Re: Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again) (SCOTT SPENCER)
4. 09:21 AM - Happy Fathersday everyone (Konrad L. Werner)
5. 09:40 AM - MT Governor drawing anyone? (SCOTT SPENCER)
6. 09:45 AM - Re: Connector for copilot stick grip (sarg314)
7. 10:05 AM - Re: Re: Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again) (Bob Collins)
8. 11:36 AM - Re: Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again) (cknauf@comcast.net)
9. 11:45 AM - My apologies to the RV-List... (Konrad L. Werner)
10. 11:57 AM - Re: Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again) (Bob Collins)
11. 12:03 PM - Re: Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again) (Timothy E. Cone)
12. 12:15 PM - Re: Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again) (Konrad L. Werner)
13. 12:19 PM - Re: Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again) (Konrad L. Werner)
14. 12:34 PM - Re: Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again) (Bob Collins)
15. 06:06 PM - Duckworks lenses cracking (Ralph E. Capen)
16. 06:42 PM - Oil - where to buy? (Ralph E. Capen)
17. 07:21 PM - Re: Oil - where to buy? (RV6 Flyer)
18. 08:05 PM - Re: MT Governor drawing anyone? (LessDragProd@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again) |
>From: "Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again)
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>
>You still have not answered my question: What did a Mr. John Porter
>say to you for you to say the following about him:
I am ignoring you mr wiener, but my post was actually for and about you, not
John Porter. It was a typo. My apologize to Mr. Porter, who just cut and pasted
your rant and rave. I generally don't answer rude dolts, but I'll make an exception
for you.
What is wrong with you? Do you want credit or something? You posted this twice?
Are you john porters mommy? Do you want me to acknowledge you? OK, you are
foolish and really say ignorant things based on bigotry and prejudice so there.
Are you happy now? I really have nothing else to say to you because you clearly
have nothing intelligent or technical to say or add. Why would I bother responding
to you and wasting my time.
If you like send me an email off-list and really tell me off and how smart you
are, fine, but as Jerry said, for the list, keep it on topic and friendly. Good
advice and suggest you take it. If you could come up with a fact and actual
personal experience as I have, that would be great. By the way have you ever
built a RV or any plane? Have you flown a RV before? Are you even a pilot? Ahaa
I don't care, never mind, have a nice weekend, nothing personal.
Cheers George
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| Subject: | Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again) |
I have a wet vacuum pump pulling set to pull 9" Hg. vacuum on my crankcase
thru the breather vent and it works great. My oil consumption went from 1
qt. every 5-7 hours to 1 qt. every 20-25 hours. I have the oil analysis to
prove that the cam isn't making any metal due to lack of oil splash and I
believe the engine runs smoother, idles lower, and seems to be making some
more power but I have no scientific proof of it. I have a flapper door
check valve designed into the system so if the vacuum pump quits the
breather will vent to ambient. I have about 50 hours on this setup now and
it works fine so far. I was advised by two different engine builders who
have this setup flying on Reno race aircraft to install a new crank seal
backwards to so that the vacuum doesn't draw air in thru the front of the
engine and that too has been trouble-free.
Based on my experience with the above I highly encourage anyone willing to
experiment with pulling a vacuum on the crankcase through the exhaust.
There are many aerobatic aircraft flying that are configured this way and
work just fine.
I've remained silent on this thread up until now, and the only reason is
because Mr. Gmcpilot, "God's gift to all things aviation", is involved and
thinks he knows more than anyone here and can't acknowledge that an idea or
concept does not conform to his thought processes, whatever ever they may
be. Its too bad that his sociopathic ramblings overshadow any technical
advice he may give, because there is some good information there. There are
many other lists he's been on and its been the same story.
So Konrad et. all, just ignore him, he'll go away eventually.
Regards,
Bob Japundza
RV-6 flying F1 under const.
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| Subject: | Re: Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again) |
Wow! What a world-class rant!
You know, I think I can speak for many when I say that someone's resume', however
impressive, is not what throws me off or leads me to despise certain listers.
It's not the 'scrabble' in signature lines or anything like that.
The answer is that it's all about *respect* in this world, and most times the
people screaming for respect and throwing their credentials around are the very
ones who don't understand they are disrespecting others with their attitudes.
In this case they are essentially using the list as a way to feel superior
and good about themselves.
There are people of all levels here and widely varying educational backgrounds
-but essentially we're all on the same team. We build and fly our own airplanes
-which is a pretty darn cool thing!
Anyhow, I was about to sign off like Jerry... but I won't do it yet. There is
still occaisionally a really useful piece of information that comes along here.
I get the list in digest form and can quickly scan it and hit delete if it
gets like this.
It sure would be nice if it were all wheat and no chaff -but's that's never gonna
happen, and I know it. I just use some of the chaff to remind me of how I
never want to be.
Scott
N4ZW
p.s. You know, it's a shame too... because sometimes there is good info out there
-it's just wrapped up in so much egotistical bubblegum that nobody wants
to mess with it. Get's stuck to your shoe and such.
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| Subject: | Happy Fathersday everyone |
Wishing a VERY HAPPY FATHERS DAYS ...to all you fathers and/or soon to
be fathers out there.
And to the one's that are not yet fathers, ...just keep trying
vigorously and with determination ;-)
Enjoy your day, and hopefully you can make it to the airport and fly out
to find that $100 Burger!!!
Cheers,
Konrad
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| Subject: | MT Governor drawing anyone? |
Anyone out there know where I could find a drawing of an MT P-860-4 prop governor?
If not, anybody know how tall it is from mounting flange to arm?
Thanks!
Scott
N4ZW
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| Subject: | Re: Connector for copilot stick grip |
I found a hi quality 12-pin circular connector with a metal shell that
is only 1/2" in diameter. I wanted something that would slip thru the
5/8 hole in the wing spar (the mirror image of the one you make for the
trim cable). I would have used a DB-9 but that would have made the
cable captive (won't fit thru the 5/8 hole).
In any case, the connector is made by Hirose (japanese company) and I
bought them from digikey. Look for HR1575-ND and HR1563-ND. One's
female and the other male. They're $15 + $23 for a pair. They have
very tiny pins and are hard to solder to. Unless you have a good fine
tip iron and some experience with electronic assembly you will find it
very difficult. If you don't need more than 9 pins, don't use the inner
3 in the pattern. If you do need to use them, solder them first! But
it's very compact and solid, and I hope reliable.
--
Tom S. RV-6A
electrical system.
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| Subject: | Re: Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again) |
// Anyhow, I was about to sign off like Jerry... but I won't do it yet.
There is still occaisionally a really useful piece of information that comes
along here. I get the list in digest form and can quickly scan it and hit
delete if it gets like this.
Since I monitor all the lists to do the Hotline, I can pretty well tell when
a thread -- no matter how good it starts out -- is going to end up as a
flame war. This one had possibilities but at some points you see the "usual
suspects," and you just KNOW where the thread is going to go. That's usually
the point at which I start mass deleting as they come in without even
reading it.
I did catch Jerry's note early this morning and thought "why does it seem
like it's always *this* list?" And I thought, too, that maybe it has
outlived its usefulness. Then there was a message right after it that was
actually full of good information for RV builders. And I'm pretty sure it's
"flame war proof," since I saw little opportunity for testosterone overload
in the subject matter. (g)
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| Subject: | Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again) |
Arguing on the internet is like being in the Special Olympics...you may win, but
you're still a retard.
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| Subject: | My apologies to the RV-List... |
To all,
I hereby wish to apologize to all the valued members of the Matronics
RV-List for my actions of recently engaging in a discussion with-, and
therefore increasing the blood pressure up a certain individual. While I
normally don't even bother to read his posts in detail anymore, the
recent one just didn't let me sit quiet, as it effectively discouraged
any experimentation with these fine aircraft and their associated
systems.
GRANTED, one should really know what he/she is planning to get
themselves into, otherwise it may be much better & safer to stay with
the plans exactly as written. Therefore, if you clearly understand a
certain concept, go for it, if not, then stay away. It is as simple as
that! You may either experiment with-, or simply assemble a kit, ...
the freedom of choice is certainly yours.
My apologies go to the entire List for the waste of your valuable
reading time on here. And I would like to apologize especially to Jerry
Springer for dragging this on for way longer then it really needed to
be, therefore diluting the informative values and the real purpose of
the RV-List. I will now RE-join the rest of the Really Good People &
Knowledgeable Experimenters on here, and simply ignore the other,
disruptive natured kind.
GODSPEED to you all, and I wish you very happy Fathers Day!
Sincerely,
Konrad Werner
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| Subject: | Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again) |
//Arguing on the internet is like being in the Special Olympics...you may
win, but you're still a retard.
As the father of the special needs kid, well, never mind. How about
everybody stick to posts about building and flying RVs?
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| Subject: | Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again) |
That's cold-blooded, politically incorrect, and not fair.
Comparing retarded people to someone dumb enough to engage in flame
wars...not fair to the retarded folks at all.
Tim Cone
----- Original Message -----
From: cknauf@comcast.net
To: rv-list@matronics.com ; rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again)
Arguing on the internet is like being in the Special Olympics...you
may win, but you're still a retard.
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| Subject: | Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again) |
Will this darn thread never die??? Just because it had to do with
suction doesn't mean that new one's still have to fall for this sucker
just now . . .
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P.S.: The few "handicapped" people that I know are all fine humans, ...
with hearts and souls and the grandest smiles!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: cknauf@comcast.net
To: rv-list@matronics.com ; rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again)
Arguing on the internet is like being in the Special Olympics...you
may win, but you're still a retard.
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| Subject: | Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again) |
Agreed..., and happy fathers day to you!
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Collins
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 12:56 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again)
//Arguing on the internet is like being in the Special Olympics...you
may win, but you're still a retard.
As the father of the special needs kid, well, never mind. How about
everybody stick to posts about building and flying RVs?
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| Subject: | Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again) |
//someone dumb enough
Ultimately, this is the question of the integrity and quality of information
that is dispensed on lists and it's here, I think, where noted Internet
list-hater Richard VanGrunsfeld has a fair point. You don't KNOW whether the
information you get is reliable, unless you KNOW -- firsthand -- the person
dispensing it. If someone IS dumb enough to engage in a flame war... just
how dumb are they? Too dumb to build a plane? Too dumb to build it right?
Too dumb to rely on for information about building an airplane that's going
to carry *my* loved ones?
I don't know about others, but there are names out there in RV-land that
have established their credentials. Not by saying "I've built 150 RVs while
amassing 10,000 hours flying the space shuttle to mars and back so
therefor...." But because, first of all, they've identified themselves by
name. People have met them. Talked to them, seen their work in person and
answered questions patiently and completely. Their credibility -- because of
all that -- is unquestioned. Especially since guys like Dan Checkoway and
Sam Buchanan -- and many others -- are also EAA Technical Counselors.
I put questions on the list -- but usually not this one -- and if I get six
answers, great.... but it's not a democracy; I evaluate WHO answered the
question, and what I know about the person answering the question before
deciding what to do. Anybody can claim to be anybody and anything but
that's not as important to me in who I listen to for building advice as
those who've proven they know what they're talking about.
OTOH, the final judge in all of my building questions is Van's Aircraft.
Usually when I post a question; it's because Van's is closed. Or it's the
weekend. On critical matters, I try not to act on the advice I get on lists
until I also hear from Van's on the subject (which, unfortunately, can take
days).
The most important function of an Internet list or forum for me is getting
an answer. If I needed to be right all the time (fat chance), win arguments,
feel better about my lowly sef... well... that's what pet dogs are for.
Forums and lists are always going to have trolls and a few neanderthals that
just make you shake your head and say, "well, it can be a big, stupid
country out there sometimes." You can never argue them away. There's only
one thing that works: ignoring them.
The most useful information I think we can all provide where RV construction
can work is our own experiences. What problems we encounter and what
solutions we found (and where) etc. I think most of us aren't looking for
the single answer handed down as the word from the RV Gods, but another data
point to consider.
Bob
St. Paul, Minn.
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----- Original Message -----
From: cknauf@comcast.net
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Breather run into exhaust (warning again)
Arguing on the internet is like being in the Special Olympics...you may win,
but you're still a retard.
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/N
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href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Duckworks lenses cracking |
Lighting question....
I installed my lights according to instructions - strapping tape, 75
degrees, and all...
The lenses were intact through the entire manufacturing process. I put them
in fine.
Today I was working on the wingtips and needed to remove the light
assemblies and found that every screwhole had cracks.
Anyone else have this issue?
I'm kinda bummed - knowing that subsequent installations will be more
difficult and won't be as tight.
At a minimum, I need to order a new set of lenses...but I think I need some
building advice when it comes to these things......
Thanks,
Ralph Capen
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| Subject: | Oil - where to buy? |
Where are you getting your oil and filters?
I'll be needing some break-in oil and some regular oil for when I restart my
Aerosport O360.....
Thanks,
Ralph
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| Subject: | Oil - where to buy? |
I like using Phillips 20-50 mineral oil from Chief Aircraft for break-in.
After break-in, I buy AeroShell 15W50 from the local Shell distributor.
My filters typically come from SkyGeek or Spruce as the best price does
change.
I always check to see who has the best prices on RV pricewatch.
http://www.rvproject.com/pricewatch.html
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
2,004 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
<lycomingengines-list@matronics.com>
Subject: RV-List: Oil - where to buy?
Where are you getting your oil and filters?
I'll be needing some break-in oil and some regular oil for when I restart my
Aerosport O360.....
Thanks,
Ralph
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| Subject: | Re: MT Governor drawing anyone? |
On the governor, from the bottom mounting surface to the top of the control
arm - 5"
Jim Ayers
In a message dated 06/17/2007 9:46:20 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
aerokinetic@sbcglobal.net writes:
Anyone out there know where I could find a drawing of an MT P-860-4 prop
governor? If not, anybody know how tall it is from mounting flange to arm?
Thanks!
Scott
N4ZW
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