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1. 08:15 AM - Re: Duckworks lenses cracking (Jeff Dowling)
2. 09:06 AM - Re: Canopy cover (sportypilot)
3. 10:14 AM - Re: Prop control label (Bruce Gray)
4. 10:21 AM - Re: Canopy cover (scott bilinski)
5. 12:23 PM - Re: Canopy cover (sportypilot)
6. 02:30 PM - Re: Prop control label (Konrad L. Werner)
7. 02:31 PM - Re: Canopy cover (Konrad L. Werner)
8. 02:32 PM - Re: Canopy cover (Austin)
9. 02:53 PM - [ Bill Reining ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
10. 03:00 PM - [ Rob Ray ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
11. 04:31 PM - Re: Prop control label (Chuck Jensen)
12. 04:38 PM - Re: Prop control label (PittsS1@aol.com)
13. 05:00 PM - Re: Prop control label (Konrad L. Werner)
14. 11:22 PM - Re: Prop control label (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
15. 11:41 PM - Prop control label again (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Duckworks lenses cracking |
Save some money and go and buy some plexi. Put it in your oven and warm
it up slowly till it bends. Wrap it around your existing cracked lens
to form it and whala, you're done. Make several, they're cheap.
Shemp
6a
Ralph E. Capen wrote:
>
> Lighting question....
>
> I installed my lights according to instructions - strapping tape, 75
> degrees, and all...
>
> The lenses were intact through the entire manufacturing process. I
> put them in fine.
> Today I was working on the wingtips and needed to remove the light
> assemblies and found that every screwhole had cracks.
>
> Anyone else have this issue?
>
> I'm kinda bummed - knowing that subsequent installations will be more
> difficult and won't be as tight.
>
> At a minimum, I need to order a new set of lenses...but I think I need
> some building advice when it comes to these things......
>
> Thanks,
> Ralph Capen
>
>
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I want these..
Godspeed655 at yahoo.com
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Austin
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 9:52 PM
Subject: RV-List: Canopy cover
Listers,
Since I no longer have an RV, I have a canopy cover for the side by side RV
as well as a set of titanium tie downs for sale.
Both items never used nor unpacked. $350 for both.
Please respond off list if interested.
Many thanks,
Austin T.
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| Subject: | Prop control label |
Just why would anyone want to label the TPM controls. FAR's suggets
color
and shape constraints, not labeling. I fought a battle with my AB-DAR on
this issue. He could site no FAR that required labeling, just that
'we've
always done it'. I have no labels on mine. If you don't know how to use
the
controls, you shouldn't be flying the airplane.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Fiveonepw@aol.com
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 10:41 PM
Subject: RV-List: Prop control label
For those out there with blue knobs-
What is an appropriate label on the panel (Not on the knob itself) for
the
prop control- two come to mind "PROP- pull coarse" and "RPM- pull low".
What're y'all using?
Thanks!
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy cover |
I noticed the below signed "Austin T" Is this the great Austin Tinckler who has
a unbelievable talent for writing about flying?
Go here to read his fantastic stories.....wish I could write half as well!
http://www.vansairforce.org/6430/
Does this also mean Austin is no longer flying?
A BIG FAN OF AUSTIN'S!
Scott Bilinski
RV-8a
Listers,
Since I no longer have an RV, I have a canopy cover for the side by side RV as
well as a set of titanium tie downs for sale.
Both items never used nor unpacked. $350 for both.
Please respond off list if interested.
Many thanks,
Austin T.
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How do you reply off list ? no email address..
Danny..
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of sportypilot
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 11:03 AM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Canopy cover
I want these..
Godspeed655 at yahoo.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Austin
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 9:52 PM
Subject: RV-List: Canopy cover
Listers,
Since I no longer have an RV, I have a canopy cover for the side by side RV
as well as a set of titanium tie downs for sale.
Both items never used nor unpacked. $350 for both.
Please respond off list if interested.
Many thanks,
Austin T.
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| Subject: | Re: Prop control label |
MessageColor and shape constraints are for identification purposes by
touch, but not the operational aspect itself. Labeling tells you what
you can do with any given control once it is identified in regards to
its purpose.
Example: I observed an Experimenter friend of mine that got a bit exited
before his first engine start of a Rotary conversion, and when it fired
it went immediately to full throttle, because he was a bit
excited/stressed at that instant. Labeling the throttle "may" have
prevented that, but I don't know if he had a written checklist for this
first engine start, ...the mental checklist failed obviously!
And yes, the pilot should know how to properly use the controls of the
craft (s)he commands, but then add some adverse facts to it, and Mr.
Murphy, the Lawyer may kick in...
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Gray
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 11:13 AM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Prop control label
Just why would anyone want to label the TPM controls. FAR's suggets
color and shape constraints, not labeling. I fought a battle with my
AB-DAR on this issue. He could site no FAR that required labeling, just
that 'we've always done it'. I have no labels on mine. If you don't know
how to use the controls, you shouldn't be flying the airplane.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Fiveonepw@aol.com
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 10:41 PM
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV-List: Prop control label
For those out there with blue knobs-
What is an appropriate label on the panel (Not on the knob itself)
for the prop control- two come to mind "PROP- pull coarse" and "RPM-
pull low".
What're y'all using?
Thanks!
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy cover |
It may highly likely be our Austin!
One more fan...
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: scott bilinski
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Canopy cover
I noticed the below signed "Austin T" Is this the great Austin
Tinckler who has a unbelievable talent for writing about flying?
Go here to read his fantastic stories.....wish I could write half as
well!
http://www.vansairforce.org/6430/
Does this also mean Austin is no longer flying?
A BIG FAN OF AUSTIN'S!
Scott Bilinski
RV-8a
Listers,
Since I no longer have an RV, I have a canopy cover for the side by
side RV as well as a set of titanium tie downs for sale.
Both items never used nor unpacked. $350 for both.
Please respond off list if interested.
Many thanks,
Austin T.
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy cover |
Sold today to local RVer.
Thanks for the reply.
----- Original Message -----
From: sportypilot
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 9:03 AM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Canopy cover
I want these..
Godspeed655 at yahoo.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Austin
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 9:52 PM
To: rv-list rv-list
Subject: RV-List: Canopy cover
Listers,
Since I no longer have an RV, I have a canopy cover for the side by
side RV as well as a set of titanium tie downs for sale.
Both items never used nor unpacked. $350 for both.
Please respond off list if interested.
Many thanks,
Austin T.
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-Listhttp://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Prop control label |
Konrad,
If someone unfamilair with an aircraft starts it without first doing a
fairly thorough familiarization, the throttle should be labeled "By the
time you take the time to read this, you will be S.O.L."
Labels are for a person familiarizing himself with a craft, not for
identifying critical flight controls while burning gas.
Chuck Jensen
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Konrad L.
Werner
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Prop control label
Color and shape constraints are for identification purposes by touch,
but not the operational aspect itself. Labeling tells you what you can
do with any given control once it is identified in regards to its
purpose.
Example: I observed an Experimenter friend of mine that got a bit exited
before his first engine start of a Rotary conversion, and when it fired
it went immediately to full throttle, because he was a bit
excited/stressed at that instant. Labeling the throttle "may" have
prevented that, but I don't know if he had a written checklist for this
first engine start, ...the mental checklist failed obviously!
And yes, the pilot should know how to properly use the controls of the
craft (s)he commands, but then add some adverse facts to it, and Mr.
Murphy, the Lawyer may kick in...
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Gray <mailto:Bruce@glasair.org>
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 11:13 AM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Prop control label
Just why would anyone want to label the TPM controls. FAR's
suggets color and shape constraints, not labeling. I fought a battle
with my AB-DAR on this issue. He could site no FAR that required
labeling, just that 'we've always done it'. I have no labels on mine. If
you don't know how to use the controls, you shouldn't be flying the
airplane.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Fiveonepw@aol.com
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 10:41 PM
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV-List: Prop control label
For those out there with blue knobs-
What is an appropriate label on the panel (Not on the
knob itself) for the prop control- two come to mind "PROP- pull coarse"
and "RPM- pull low".
What're y'all using?
Thanks!
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: Prop control label |
naw ... they are to satisfy the FAA / insurance companies. and make us
safer...
mike
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| Subject: | Re: Prop control label |
MessageHi Chuck,
I fully agree with you, but my friend made a mistake due to stress
(while still on the ground & before even burning gas). He was very
familiar with the airplane as he built the whole engine conversation and
knew very well were the throttle position should have been for starting.
Please re-read my post once more, because I did NEVER said that
labeling is very helpful for inflight emergencies, which do come up on
occasion...
Cheers,
Konrad
----- Original Message -----
From: Chuck Jensen
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 5:30 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Prop control label
Konrad,
If someone unfamilair with an aircraft starts it without first doing a
fairly thorough familiarization, the throttle should be labeled "By the
time you take the time to read this, you will be S.O.L."
Labels are for a person familiarizing himself with a craft, not for
identifying critical flight controls while burning gas.
Chuck Jensen
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Konrad L.
Werner
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 5:29 PM
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV-List: Prop control label
Color and shape constraints are for identification purposes by touch,
but not the operational aspect itself. Labeling tells you what you can
do with any given control once it is identified in regards to its
purpose.
Example: I observed an Experimenter friend of mine that got a bit
exited before his first engine start of a Rotary conversion, and when it
fired it went immediately to full throttle, because he was a bit
excited/stressed at that instant. Labeling the throttle "may" have
prevented that, but I don't know if he had a written checklist for this
first engine start, ...the mental checklist failed obviously!
And yes, the pilot should know how to properly use the controls of the
craft (s)he commands, but then add some adverse facts to it, and Mr.
Murphy, the Lawyer may kick in...
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Gray
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 11:13 AM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Prop control label
Just why would anyone want to label the TPM controls. FAR's suggets
color and shape constraints, not labeling. I fought a battle with my
AB-DAR on this issue. He could site no FAR that required labeling, just
that 'we've always done it'. I have no labels on mine. If you don't know
how to use the controls, you shouldn't be flying the airplane.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Fiveonepw@aol.com
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 10:41 PM
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV-List: Prop control label
For those out there with blue knobs-
What is an appropriate label on the panel (Not on the knob itself)
for the prop control- two come to mind "PROP- pull coarse" and "RPM-
pull low".
What're y'all using?
Thanks!
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: Prop control label |
In a message dated 6/23/2007 12:17:17 PM Central Daylight Time,
Bruce@glasair.org writes:
If you don't know how to use the controls, you shouldn't be flying the
airplane.
>>>
Thanks for answering my question, Bruce...
Mark do not archive
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| Subject: | Prop control label again |
OK, let me try this again...
For THOSE OF YOU who have LABELS on YOUR prop controls, what does it say? I
did NOT ask for a discussion regarding WHY, just the simple question. Zero
info so far. Does this simply indicate no one is willing to stick their necks
out here for fear of a political roast? (I know, dumb question- I've been here
a loooong time) Believe me, I understand- if this is the case, please
respond off-list- my direct e-mail is _fiveonepw@aol.com_
(mailto:fiveonepw@aol.com) I AM including a label and simply curious what would be most appropriate!
C'mon, guys- this has nothing to do with primer...
Mark do not archive
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