---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 07/03/07: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:29 AM - Re: Safety wire on Hartzell (Kevin Horton) 2. 04:03 AM - Re: Safety wire on Hartzell (Dale Ensing) 3. 06:26 AM - Re: Re: Last call for the RV OSH BBQ (Lloyd, Daniel R.) 4. 06:27 AM - Re: Connections on AVMAP EKP-IV (FATKORAT@aol.com) 5. 08:27 AM - Re:Safety wire on Hartzell (Jerry2DT@aol.com) 6. 10:27 AM - Re: RV on floats (Todd Bartrim) 7. 12:59 PM - Re: RV on floats (Tim Bryan) 8. 03:18 PM - FW: Avionics-List: Crossbow NAV425EX Service Bulletin (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 9. 03:33 PM - Re: Re: Connections on AVMAP EKP-IV (Trevor) 10. 04:09 PM - Camping at OSH (eddyfernan@aol.com) 11. 05:11 PM - Re: Camping at OSH (Bob Leffler) 12. 05:27 PM - Re: Camping at OSH (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 13. 06:26 PM - Re: Camping at OSH (Bob Collins) 14. 07:43 PM - Looking For Paint Shop at Lakeland Fl. (davercook) 15. 08:18 PM - Looking for paint shop in lakeland Florida Airport (davercook) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:29:00 AM PST US From: Kevin Horton Subject: Re: RV-List: Safety wire on Hartzell Actually, the consumables section in the chapter on installing and removing the prop in the Hartzell manual specifies 0.032 SS safety wire. This is consistent with the guidance in AC43.13-1B. Kevin Horton On 2 Jul 2007, at 17:06, Dale Ensing wrote: > > And done with .040 SS safety wire. > > . My Hartzell manual specifically >> says to safety wire the prop bolts, and there is a figure with an >> arrow pointing at the holes in those roll pins at the place to >> put safety wire. >> Kevin >>> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:03:18 AM PST US From: "Dale Ensing" Subject: Re: RV-List: Safety wire on Hartzell That is interesting Kevin. The manual that came with my Hartzell says 0.040 SS safety wire. The .040 is a real pain to work with...especially on the prop bolts. Dale Ensing ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Horton" Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 6:24 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Safety wire on Hartzell > > Actually, the consumables section in the chapter on installing and > removing the prop in the Hartzell manual specifies 0.032 SS safety wire. > This is consistent with the guidance in AC43.13-1B. > > Kevin Horton > > On 2 Jul 2007, at 17:06, Dale Ensing wrote: > >> >> And done with .040 SS safety wire. >> >> . My Hartzell manual specifically >>> says to safety wire the prop bolts, and there is a figure with an >>> arrow pointing at the holes in those roll pins at the place to put >>> safety wire. >>> Kevin >>>> > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:26:03 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Last call for the RV OSH BBQ From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." Bob Trish and I would be happy to help for an hour or two at the ticket table, if you need it. Dan Lloyd N289DT RV10E -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Collins Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 4:36 PM Subject: RV-List: Re: Last call for the RV OSH BBQ Apologies because this is going to be posted on various message boards to make sure we hit everyone, but I've put together a 'flow chart' of the chow line at the Oshkosh RV BBQ. It has the volunteer "assignments" for those I'm aware of that have volunteered. You can find it here: http://tinyurl.com/26gvb8 Please check it out and tell me if it makes sense. We'll probably start cooking around 5 so that there's food ready when people arrive at 6 (and beyond). In the past, we've cooked for several hours. So it would be great if you'd let me know how long you wish your "shift" to last. I would discourage folks from volunteering for more than an hour because it's easy not to see everyone when you're cooking and running around. So let me know which shift (6-7. 7-8, 8-9) works best for you. I've also listed some volunteer "opportunities" we're still trying to fill. SALADS: We need folks who can bring a salad. You know, a bunch of lettuce in a big bowl and jar of dressing. We have a few who have volunteered but it would be bad form for us to have only a few dozen servings. So if you've got a big Tupperware bowl, wouldn't mind filling it and taking it home with you -- empty and greasy -- when done, drop me an email. (bcollinsrv7a (at)comcast.net) Do not archive -------- Bob Collins St. Paul, Minn. RV Builder's Hotline (free!) http://rvhotline.expercraft.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=121846#121846 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:27:18 AM PST US From: FATKORAT@aol.com Subject: RV-List: RE: Connections on AVMAP EKP-IV I had the same dilema as you. What I did was take apart the cigarette lighter end of the supplied car power cord and investigate. The white wire is not connected to anything. I have mine connected to aircraft power using the red wire to 12 Volts and the black wire to ground. Bob Gibbons RV-8 Sumter SC Canopy and Cowl to go ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:27:34 AM PST US From: Jerry2DT@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Re:Safety wire on Hartzell Sez right in the Hartzell manual to safety with .032 wire. I personally observed a certain FAA person fail a prop that only used .025 wire during an airworthiness inspection. Do not archive. Jerry Cochran From: "Tim Bryan" Subject: RE: RV-List: Safety wire on Hartzell Interestingly my DAR told me those holes were not for safety wire and it was not needed. I did not do it at his urging but always feel it should be done. It was never a problem on my previous airplane with the same prop to just do it the way you described and no protection on the wire is needed. Tim ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:27:53 AM PST US From: Todd Bartrim Subject: Re: RV-List: RV on floats Let's try this again, If you want to see a real RV on floats, check out these videos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXTGNm5k_-I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuQjpyqnn3o Todd Tim Bryan wrote: > > I live in East Texas and am beginning to think I should have put my > RV-6 on floats so I can take it to the store. Dont really need to fly > it, just need a way to get around. This rain is getting a bit > ridiculous. I moved here for warmer weather, but wondering if I should > have picked somewhere else. Is anyone else in East Texas? > > The upside is I am using the time to finally put my wheel pants on and > prime my cowl. Now if I could just find all the parts I moved here for > the wheel pants. > > Do Not Archive this! > > Tim > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:59:33 PM PST US From: "Tim Bryan" Subject: RE: RV-List: RV on floats Well, I did see the videos and completely enjoyed them. I am not sure my earlier post went through saying this: Very cool!! Tim Do Not Archive > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Todd Bartrim > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 12:26 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: RV on floats > > > Let's try this again, > If you want to see a real RV on floats, check out these videos > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXTGNm5k_-I > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuQjpyqnn3o > > > Todd > > > > Tim Bryan wrote: > > > > I live in East Texas and am beginning to think I should have put my > > RV-6 on floats so I can take it to the store. Don't really need to fly > > it, just need a way to get around. This rain is getting a bit > > ridiculous. I moved here for warmer weather, but wondering if I should > > have picked somewhere else. Is anyone else in East Texas? > > > > The upside is I am using the time to finally put my wheel pants on and > > prime my cowl. Now if I could just find all the parts I moved here for > > the wheel pants. > > > > Do Not Archive this! > > > > Tim > > > > * > > > > > > * > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:18:24 PM PST US From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Subject: RV-List: FW: Avionics-List: Crossbow NAV425EX Service Bulletin Pulled from another list......... -----Original Message----- From: owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-avionics-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike@Crossbow Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 4:49 PM Subject: Avionics-List: Crossbow NAV425EX Service Bulletin --> Avionics-List message posted by: "Mike@Crossbow" Due to a recent firmware update from our GPS manufacturer, Crossbow has published a service bulletin for the NAV425EX which contains details about a possible software update that may affect customers that are currently flying the NAV425EX. The software update provided by the GPS subsystem manufacturer contains improvements that eliminate the possibility of erroneous data during very specific satellite configurations. In addition, we have made some improvements to the magnetometer performance and BIT (built in test) status inside the NAV425EX. You can find the full details of this service bulletin, including the units affected using the link below. Sincerely, Michael Smith Application Engineer Crossbow Technology msmith@xbow.com [url][/url] -------- Michael Smith Application Engineer Inertial Systems Crossbow Technology msmith@xbow.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=122053#122053 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:33:57 PM PST US From: "Trevor" Subject: Re: RV-List: RE: Connections on AVMAP EKP-IV Yea, that is what I eventually did and found the same. AvMap Italy responded by saying Red to +'ve Black to -'ve and white to "ground" I'm only fitting mine into my a/c because I've already cut the panel. I am tempted to toss it on the pile at this stage as they have taken 15 months of promises to supply a Southern Africa data base at a cost (last quote) of $300!!! plus $40 for postage!! I foolishly bought it at Sun 'n Fun last April (06) and was promised that if I brought my card in they would supply the Europe/Africa data for free - ha ha, was I had. They put out a feeble one 9 months ago with no city names, a few roads and some international airports - that was it! They talk about "their cartographer" still researching - man any small GPS producer in this country gets this info for nothing without doing any "research" and can sell their product for half the price that they want to charge me for a flash card! Thanks for your reply Bob, much appreciated Trevor Davis RV-7 Cape Town, South Africa ----- Original Message ----- From: FATKORAT@aol.com To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 3:26 PM Subject: RV-List: RE: Connections on AVMAP EKP-IV I had the same dilema as you. What I did was take apart the cigarette lighter end of the supplied car power cord and investigate. The white wire is not connected to anything. I have mine connected to aircraft power using the red wire to 12 Volts and the black wire to ground. Bob Gibbons RV-8 Sumter SC Canopy and Cowl to go ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- See what's free at AOL.com. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:09:14 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: Camping at OSH From: eddyfernan@aol.com For those of you who have been there done that.? I'm planning on flying my RV9A to Oshkosh for the first time.? Do most RVers camp next to their plane or go set up a spot in the campground??Any advice would be appreciated.? See you there! View full size Eddy Fernandez RV9A 135 hrs TT Kermit (Painted primer green for now) Do not archive ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:11:00 PM PST US From: "Bob Leffler" Subject: RE: RV-List: Camping at OSH The answer would be, yes.... You'll find plenty of RV'ers in both locations. In Camp Scholler there are a group of RV-10'ers camping together and there are folks camping around Bob Collins' BBQ site. You'll also find quite a few RV'ers camping next to their aircraft. From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of eddyfernan@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 7:07 PM Subject: RV-List: Camping at OSH For those of you who have been there done that. I'm planning on flying my RV9A to Oshkosh for the first time. Do most RVers camp next to their plane or go set up a spot in the campground? Any advice would be appreciated. See you there! Eddy Fernandez RV9A 135 hrs TT Kermit (Painted primer green for now) Do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:27:06 PM PST US From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Subject: RE: RV-List: Camping at OSH Whichever is your preference. There will be many more people in camping bu t both are an experience in themselves. From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matro nics.com] On Behalf Of eddyfernan@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 6:07 PM Subject: RV-List: Camping at OSH For those of you who have been there done that. I'm planning on flying my RV9A to Oshkosh for the first time. Do most RVers camp next to their plane or go set up a spot in the campground? Any advice would be appreciated. S ee you there! Eddy Fernandez RV9A 135 hrs TT Kermit (Painted primer green for now) Do not archive ________________________________ ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:26:55 PM PST US From: "Bob Collins" Subject: RE: RV-List: Camping at OSH >From what I can tell, "the action" is camping with your plane. Camp Scholler, except for the folks who camp there, for some reason remains a part of the Oshkosh story not well or often told. AirVenture Today (the daily rag) doesn't come over there. The annual AirVenture video rarely includes a scene from it. and yet, it's a huge neighborhood and, depending on where you end up, can provide some truly wonderful moments. The best part about Camp Scholler, in my opinion, is it affords you the opportunity to walk up one 'street' and down the other. you'll find plenty of folks who'll say "hey, sit down here...what can I get you?" There's also the nightly movies and the parade up and down the street at night of people on bikes or on gators or cars or tanks or whatever, is an interesting show that reminds me of the Coney island Boardwalk. I've never flown into or camped in the plane area but I suspect it's a much different vibe. I think both should be experienced so then it's a question of which you want to experience THIS year. See my Oshkosh Diary -- specifically the entry for July 27 -- for more random thoughts on Scholler http://rvhotline.expercraft.com/articles/oshkosh_diary_2006.html _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of eddyfernan@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 6:07 PM Subject: RV-List: Camping at OSH For those of you who have been there done that. I'm planning on flying my RV9A to Oshkosh for the first time. Do most RVers camp next to their plane or go set up a spot in the campground? Any advice would be appreciated. See you there! View full size Eddy Fernandez RV9A 135 hrs TT Kermit (Painted primer green for now) Do not archive _____ ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:43:26 PM PST US From: "davercook" Subject: RV-List: Looking For Paint Shop at Lakeland Fl. Hi All I heard good things about a paint shop at Lakeland Airport in Florida. Does anyone know the name or a contact. Thanks Do Not Archive David R. Cook RV-6 N815DC Flying 11 hrs. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:18:53 PM PST US From: "davercook" Subject: RV-List: Looking for paint shop in lakeland Florida Airport Hi All I have heard about a paint shop on the airport in Lakeland Florida, anyone know the name or contact? Do Not Archive David R. 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