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1. 05:00 AM - Re: RV-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 07/17/07 (EXT-Allen, David)
2. 05:20 AM - Re: Hangar building code issues (Chuck Jensen)
3. 05:53 AM - Drafts (James H Nelson)
4. 06:12 AM - Re: Re: RV-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 07/17/07 (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
5. 06:45 AM - aileron pushrod boots (Sam Buchanan)
6. 07:13 AM - Re: Drafts (Timothy E. Cone)
7. 08:53 AM - Re: Drafts (Jim Jewell)
8. 09:44 AM - Re: aileron pushrod boots (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
9. 09:52 AM - Re: Hangar building code issues (Sherman Butler)
10. 10:06 AM - Re: Drafts (Sam Buchanan)
11. 11:04 AM - Re: Aircraft Spruce (BELTEDAIR@aol.com)
12. 12:26 PM - Off to OSH! (Jeff Point)
13. 06:13 PM - Who's posting from OSH? (Bob Collins)
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| Subject: | RE: RV-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 07/17/07 |
I'm looking for ideas on how to block the air draft around the aileron
pushrods where they go from the fuselage to the wing.
Does anyone make a kit? What material would be appropriate?
Is it really needed in the midwest winters?
Dave, RV-9A
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Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:58 AM
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1. 12:37 AM - Re: Hangar building code issues (Jeff Point)
2. 12:41 AM - Re: KMD 150 Install manual needed (JAMES BOWEN)
3. 12:51 AM - Re: Hangar building code issues (Jeff Point)
4. 02:16 AM - Re: Re: Hangar building code issues (Bill Settle)
5. 05:27 AM - Re: Hangar building code issues (Jeff Orear)
6. 06:58 AM - Idle set screw adjustment (Dana Overall)
7. 09:11 AM - Re: Idle set screw adjustment (linn Walters)
8. 09:14 AM - Re: Re: Hangar building code issues (Jim CArey)
9. 10:05 AM - New 540 engine for sale (Eric Parlow)
10. 12:23 PM - Re: Electronic Ignition (Jeff Dowling)
11. 04:42 PM - Re: Hangar building code issues (Charlie England)
12. 07:11 PM - Re: Idle set screw adjustment (Bobby Hester)
13. 07:41 PM - Re: Idle set screw adjustment (linn Walters)
14. 10:06 PM - Re: Idle set screw adjustment (H.Ivan Haecker)
________________________________ Message 1
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Time: 12:37:36 AM PST US
From: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Hangar building code issues
That would be great. I know the IBC adopted is 2003 and I have that
book, but I don't have the NFPA. A pdf would be great.
Jeff
Sherman Butler wrote:
> I can send a copy of NFPA 409 in pdf format if you wish. Just let me
> know. I will need to look at the IBC, but can probably send that as
> well. I will need the year or edition adopted. I will be back in the
> states and functioning on Thurs. Iceland is a pretty visit.
>
> *//*
> *
> *
________________________________ Message 2
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Time: 12:41:34 AM PST US
From: "JAMES BOWEN" <jabowenjr@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: KMD 150 Install manual needed
Thank you very much. I finally got it. I googled it 3 times and looked
and looked, no luck.
Sincerely,
Jim Bowen
>From: Steve <stevea@svpal.org>
>To: rv-list@matronics.com, aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: KMD 150 Install manual needed
>Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:37:22 -0700
>
>
>JAMES BOWEN wrote:
>>
>>I need an install manual for my KMD 150. Thanks in advance.
>>Jim Bowen
>I thought about scanning my copy and sending it to you, then thought
>"Hmmmm, wonder what Google says?" (I've tried before to find it soft
copy
>on the web, but never had any luck.)
>
>Both the installation manual and pilot's guide are here:
>http://www.seaerospace.com/king/kmd150.htm
>
>Steve
>(now with a soft copy IM to back up my hard copy!)
>
>
_________________________________________________________________
http://newlivehotmail.com
________________________________ Message 3
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Time: 12:51:01 AM PST US
From: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Hangar building code issues
I called the local building inspection dept that would ultimate do the
inspection for my hangar. That way I knew what they would be looking
for.
Dale Ensing
That's the problem- I called the building inspector up front and asked
him about the requirements, and he referred me to IBC 412 and the
related Wisconsin building code as the ruling documents. Both of these
spell out the absurdly ridiculous 10 foot above the airplane height
requirement. There isn't a hangar on my airport, nor likely in the
state that conforms to this, yet he won't budge on the issue. So much
for trying to work with the inspector and being reasonable.
Jeff
do not archive
>
________________________________ Message 4
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Time: 02:16:41 AM PST US
From: Bill Settle <billsettle@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Re: RV-List: Hangar building code issues
Another downside to all this is that it has been my experience that you
may try
to comply with what one inspector wants only to have a different
inspector come
out and require something else.
Bill Settle
do not archive
>
> From: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
> Date: 2007/07/17 Tue AM 02:45:29 EST
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Hangar building code issues
>
>
> I called the local building inspection dept that would ultimate do the
> inspection for my hangar. That way I knew what they would be looking
for.
> Dale Ensing
>
> That's the problem- I called the building inspector up front and asked
> him about the requirements, and he referred me to IBC 412 and the
> related Wisconsin building code as the ruling documents. Both of
these
> spell out the absurdly ridiculous 10 foot above the airplane height
> requirement. There isn't a hangar on my airport, nor likely in the
> state that conforms to this, yet he won't budge on the issue. So much
> for trying to work with the inspector and being reasonable.
>
> Jeff
> do not archive
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 5
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Time: 05:27:48 AM PST US
From: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Hangar building code issues
Jeff:
I am jumping into this thread midstream so hope this hasn't been
mentioned.
We had a guy just build a hangar at MNM and came up against the same BS.
What he did is have his electrician wire just one overhead light, well
removed from where any airplane would get 10 ft away, and then had it
inspected. Once he didn't see the inspector's tailights, up went more
lights.
One other thing....At least in MI, if you install lights that are
inclosed
with some sort of diffuser, then the 10 ft rule does not apply. In
other
words, a bare bulb type of light is what they get bent out of shape
about.
Jeff Orear
RV6A N782P
Peshtigo, WI
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Point" <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:45 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Hangar building code issues
>
> I called the local building inspection dept that would ultimate do the
> inspection for my hangar. That way I knew what they would be looking
for.
> Dale Ensing
>
> That's the problem- I called the building inspector up front and asked
him
> about the requirements, and he referred me to IBC 412 and the related
> Wisconsin building code as the ruling documents. Both of these spell
out
> the absurdly ridiculous 10 foot above the airplane height requirement.
> There isn't a hangar on my airport, nor likely in the state that
conforms
> to this, yet he won't budge on the issue. So much for trying to work
with
> the inspector and being reasonable.
>
> Jeff
> do not archive
>>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 6
_____________________________________
Time: 06:58:36 AM PST US
From: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
Subject: RV-List: Idle set screw adjustment
It's getting close to the initial engine start. I have a MA4-5
Precision Marvel-Schebler carb. I want to check the setting on the
idle adjusting needle but can't find the factory recommended setting
of number of turns out. Anyone got that handy?
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackwing1.jpg
http://rvflying.tripod.com
do not archive
_________________________________________________________________
Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary!
http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_hotmailtextlink2
________________________________ Message 7
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Time: 09:11:23 AM PST US
From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Idle set screw adjustment
I never found anything either. I back the screw out 4 turns or so and
start there. If it won't run at idle (starts on prime and will run with
more prime) then back it out a couple more. If it smokes (black) then
it's too rich and you need to turn it in a couple. Once it runs smooth,
then look for a 50 to 100 RPM rise as you slowly move the mixture to
idle cutoff. You also need to get the idle RPM down around 700 for
starters.
The reason, I think, that ther's no info is that all carbs aren't
created equal .... at least in the idle circuit.
Linn
do not archive
Dana Overall wrote:
>
>
> It's getting close to the initial engine start. I have a MA4-5
> Precision Marvel-Schebler carb. I want to check the setting on the
> idle adjusting needle but can't find the factory recommended setting
> of number of turns out. Anyone got that handy?
>
>
> Dana Overall
> Richmond, KY i39
> RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
> O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
> http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackwing1.jpg
> http://rvflying.tripod.com
> do not archive
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary!
> http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_hotmailtextlink2
>
>
________________________________ Message 8
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Time: 09:14:36 AM PST US
From: "Jim CArey" <tiger10@centurytel.net>
Subject: RE: Re: RV-List: Hangar building code issues
We at kpso Pagosa Springs co, had this proble =m for a while, the 10 ft
thing, and after talkoing to the fire marshal got a reasonable opinion
that
10 ft. from the fuel system was going to be OK. Most of our hangars are
at
least 14 ft high,some a lot more, and it the heater is in a rear corner,
you
will have more than enough room.
Jim Carey asn kpso
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Settle
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:12 AM
Subject: Re: Re: RV-List: Hangar building code issues
Another downside to all this is that it has been my experience that you
may
try to comply with what one inspector wants only to have a different
inspector come out and require something else.
Bill Settle
do not archive
>
> From: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
> Date: 2007/07/17 Tue AM 02:45:29 EST
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Hangar building code issues
>
>
> I called the local building inspection dept that would ultimate do the
> inspection for my hangar. That way I knew what they would be looking
for.
> Dale Ensing
>
> That's the problem- I called the building inspector up front and asked
> him about the requirements, and he referred me to IBC 412 and the
> related Wisconsin building code as the ruling documents. Both of
> these spell out the absurdly ridiculous 10 foot above the airplane
> height requirement. There isn't a hangar on my airport, nor likely in
> the state that conforms to this, yet he won't budge on the issue. So
> much for trying to work with the inspector and being reasonable.
>
> Jeff
> do not archive
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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________________________________ Message 9
_____________________________________
Time: 10:05:36 AM PST US
From: "Eric Parlow" <ericparlow@hotmail.com>
Subject: RV-List: New 540 engine for sale
I have a Factory New O-540-A4D5 engine for sale.
I purchased it for my RV-10 which is behind schedule and will not
require an
engine until next year.
It is identical to an O-540-E4A5 except the data plate rpm rating, 2575
vs
2700.
Easily converted to an IO-540-D4A5 with an Airflow Performance fuel
system
for ~$3,300
See:
http://www.airflowperformance.com/html/kits_lycoming_01.html
Price: $27,000, FOB, Lycoming's dock in Williamsport, PA
Eric Parlow
RV-10, N104EP
(828) 777-7976
________________________________ Message 10
____________________________________
Time: 12:23:27 PM PST US
From: Jeff Dowling <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Electronic Ignition
Its really not a problem to install on the cold side of the firewall.
Yes, you have to cut the supplied cable, but its a simple solder job on
a radio shack 9 pin plug is all it takes to fix. You only need to drill
a very small hole through the firewall.
Shemp
Jim Jewell wrote:
>
> Heat might not be the only enemy here.;
>
> If the best location (in the cabin behind firewall) is not an option,
> the brain box could be shrouded inside a .020 aluminium cool box
> with a blast air tube feeding it cool air.
> The possibility of the introduction of humidity and whatnot being
> introduced via the blast tube must be considered.
> Keep in mind that the brain box was designed to be inside the cabin
> out of the ravages of weather and under cowl contaminates.
> It might not be completely weather and environment proof such as most
> ignition cdi modules etc. that are found under the hoods of
automobiles.
>
> Take care,
>
> Jim in Kelowna - C-GIIG - 30 hr.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* David Schaefer <mailto:n142ds@gmail.com>
> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 15, 2007 4:49 PM
> *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Electronic Ignition
>
> No the unit was on the engine side of the firewall, where I've
> mostly seen them. Room is the primary issue here. Thanks for the
> info. I'm wondering about blast tubes directed on it?
>
> DWS
>
> On 7/15/07, *John Huft* <rv8tor@lazy8.net
> <mailto:rv8tor@lazy8.net>> wrote:
>
> Dang, I guess I am about to fall out of the sky!
>
> David, which model Lightspeed are we talking about?
>
> John
>
>
> Doug Weiler wrote:
>> Yes, the computer must be on the cold side of the firewall!!!
>>
>> Doug Weiler
>> N722DW, 400 hours, dual Lightspeeds with no issues in 150
>> hours of use.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Konrad L. Werner <mailto:klwerner@comcast.net>
>> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com
<mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, July 15, 2007 2:29 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Electronic Ignition
>>
>> I believe the Klaus recommends to put the controller on
>> the cold side of the firewall (inside the cabin). Was
>> this recommendation followed by the builder?
>>
>> do not archive
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* David Schaefer <mailto:n142ds@gmail.com>
>> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com
>> <mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, July 15, 2007 1:16 PM
>> *Subject:* RV-List: Electronic Ignition
>>
>> I saw a brand new Lightspeed fail this weekend ..
>> most probably due to heat under the cowl since it
>> eventually re-set. The aircraft had mags on one side
>> ... so no big deal. However, wouldn't you think that
>> the current generation of electronic ignitions would
>> take into account that under the cowl on an airplane
>> is HOT and make some sort of consideration? It's my
>> understanding that the vast majority of these
>> ignitions controllers are installed on the
>> fire-wall? Anyone else had any ideas,
>> recommendations here? I think these are great
>> electronic ignition systems and am looking to install
>> a pair on an aircraft .. but it was an old fashioned
>> MAG that got us back to the airport!
>>
>> --
>> David W. Schaefer
>> RV-6A N142DS "Geek One"
>> TMX-IOF360 FADEC, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS
>> www.n142ds.com <http://www.n142ds.com>
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________________________________ Message 11
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Time: 04:42:34 PM PST US
From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Hangar building code issues
Jeff Point wrote:
>
> I called the local building inspection dept that would ultimate do the
> inspection for my hangar. That way I knew what they would be looking
for.
> Dale Ensing
>
> That's the problem- I called the building inspector up front and asked
> him about the requirements, and he referred me to IBC 412 and the
> related Wisconsin building code as the ruling documents. Both of
these
> spell out the absurdly ridiculous 10 foot above the airplane height
> requirement. There isn't a hangar on my airport, nor likely in the
> state that conforms to this, yet he won't budge on the issue. So much
> for trying to work with the inspector and being reasonable.
>
> Jeff
> do not archive
>>
Then don't build a hangar. Build a big storage building with a really
big entry door.
You need to think like a bureaucrat. For instance, it's almost always
easy to get a 'special vfr' clearance to depart an airport, but it will
never be offered to you. (Ya gotta ask.)
Charlie
________________________________ Message 12
____________________________________
Time: 07:11:11 PM PST US
From: Bobby Hester <bobbyhester@charter.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Idle set screw adjustment
Dana, I never could get the 50 to 100 RPM rise that everyone says you
should get.
Surfing the web with my laptop from Hopkinsville, KY
Visit my RV7A website:
http://webpages.charter.net/bobbyhester/MyFlyingRV7A.htm
linn Walters wrote:
>
> I never found anything either. I back the screw out 4 turns or so and
> start there. If it won't run at idle (starts on prime and will run
> with more prime) then back it out a couple more. If it smokes (black)
> then it's too rich and you need to turn it in a couple. Once it runs
> smooth, then look for a 50 to 100 RPM rise as you slowly move the
> mixture to idle cutoff. You also need to get the idle RPM down
> around 700 for starters.
>
> The reason, I think, that ther's no info is that all carbs aren't
> created equal .... at least in the idle circuit.
> Linn
> do not archive
>
> Dana Overall wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> It's getting close to the initial engine start. I have a MA4-5
>> Precision Marvel-Schebler carb. I want to check the setting on the
>> idle adjusting needle but can't find the factory recommended setting
>> of number of turns out. Anyone got that handy?
>>
>>
>> Dana Overall
>> Richmond, KY i39
>> RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
>> O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
>> http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackwing1.jpg
>> http://rvflying.tripod.com
>> do not archive
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary!
>> http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_hotmailtextlink2
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
________________________________ Message 13
____________________________________
Time: 07:41:06 PM PST US
From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Idle set screw adjustment
Bobby Hester wrote:
>
> Dana, I never could get the 50 to 100 RPM rise that everyone says you
> should get.
There are only two reasons not to get the rise .... either it's already
too lean or you're pulling the mixture too fast. I guess if it's too
rich then the rise may not be apparent as you go through the lean spot
prior to cutoff.
Linn
do not archive
>
>
> Surfing the web with my laptop from Hopkinsville, KY
> Visit my RV7A website:
> http://webpages.charter.net/bobbyhester/MyFlyingRV7A.htm
________________________________ Message 14
____________________________________
Time: 10:06:10 PM PST US
From: "H.Ivan Haecker" <baremetl@gvtc.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Idle set screw adjustment
I have never been able to observe the rise either, and I've pulled the
mixture back very slowly more than a few times looking for it. So maybe
my
idle mixture is too lean to have the rise, but it's been this way for
nearly
1400 hrs. with apparent ill effects.
Ivan Haecker -4 1377 hrs. S. Cen. TX
----- Original Message -----
From: "linn Walters" <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Idle set screw adjustment
>
> Bobby Hester wrote:
>
>>
>> Dana, I never could get the 50 to 100 RPM rise that everyone says you
>> should get.
>
> There are only two reasons not to get the rise .... either it's
already
> too lean or you're pulling the mixture too fast. I guess if it's too
rich
> then the rise may not be apparent as you go through the lean spot
prior to
> cutoff.
> Linn
> do not archive
>
>>
>>
>> Surfing the web with my laptop from Hopkinsville, KY
>> Visit my RV7A website:
>> http://webpages.charter.net/bobbyhester/MyFlyingRV7A.htm
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Hangar building code issues |
A little off subject, but since Charlie mentioned "special VFR", I
recall a while back before I got my IFR ticket that one morning I was
waiting to hop over the mountains from Knoxville TYS. There was a low
layer of wispy fog laying over the area that was just thick enough to be
below MVFR. I talked to the tower and they said it might clear in a
half hour or so. When I called about 15 minutes later to see if it had
improved, the tower wondered, in a slow, methodical query, if there was
anything "special" I would like request. Being denser than a rock and
dumber than a stump, it was only later that I understood what he was
hinting at. Yes, they can accommodate, but they can't offer.
However, bureaucrat can offer, but usually don't...unless you ply them
with enough donuts to go with their early morning coffee, mid morning
coffee and before lunch coffee!
Chuck Jensen
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charlie England
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Hangar building code issues
Jeff Point wrote:
>
> I called the local building inspection dept that would ultimate do the
> inspection for my hangar. That way I knew what they would be looking
for.
> Dale Ensing
>
> That's the problem- I called the building inspector up front and asked
> him about the requirements, and he referred me to IBC 412 and the
> related Wisconsin building code as the ruling documents. Both of
these
> spell out the absurdly ridiculous 10 foot above the airplane height
> requirement. There isn't a hangar on my airport, nor likely in the
> state that conforms to this, yet he won't budge on the issue. So much
> for trying to work with the inspector and being reasonable.
>
> Jeff
> do not archive
>>
Then don't build a hangar. Build a big storage building with a really
big entry door.
You need to think like a bureaucrat. For instance, it's almost always
easy to get a 'special vfr' clearance to depart an airport, but it will
never be offered to you. (Ya gotta ask.)
Charlie
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Dave,
Try Flightline Interiors by Abbe. They are very light.
Jim
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Abby at Flightline interiors has a kit, she also has stick boots.
Dan
N289DT RV10E Flying
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of EXT-Allen,
David
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:48 AM
Subject: RV-List: RE: RV-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 07/17/07
<david.allen@boeing.com>
I'm looking for ideas on how to block the air draft around the aileron
pushrods where they go from the fuselage to the wing.
Does anyone make a kit? What material would be appropriate?
Is it really needed in the midwest winters?
Dave, RV-9A
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:58 AM
Subject: RV-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 07/17/07
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1. 12:37 AM - Re: Hangar building code issues (Jeff Point)
2. 12:41 AM - Re: KMD 150 Install manual needed (JAMES BOWEN)
3. 12:51 AM - Re: Hangar building code issues (Jeff Point)
4. 02:16 AM - Re: Re: Hangar building code issues (Bill Settle)
5. 05:27 AM - Re: Hangar building code issues (Jeff Orear)
6. 06:58 AM - Idle set screw adjustment (Dana Overall)
7. 09:11 AM - Re: Idle set screw adjustment (linn Walters)
8. 09:14 AM - Re: Re: Hangar building code issues (Jim CArey)
9. 10:05 AM - New 540 engine for sale (Eric Parlow)
10. 12:23 PM - Re: Electronic Ignition (Jeff Dowling)
11. 04:42 PM - Re: Hangar building code issues (Charlie England)
12. 07:11 PM - Re: Idle set screw adjustment (Bobby Hester)
13. 07:41 PM - Re: Idle set screw adjustment (linn Walters)
14. 10:06 PM - Re: Idle set screw adjustment (H.Ivan Haecker)
________________________________ Message 1
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Time: 12:37:36 AM PST US
From: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Hangar building code issues
That would be great. I know the IBC adopted is 2003 and I have that
book, but I don't have the NFPA. A pdf would be great.
Jeff
Sherman Butler wrote:
> I can send a copy of NFPA 409 in pdf format if you wish. Just let me
> know. I will need to look at the IBC, but can probably send that as
> well. I will need the year or edition adopted. I will be back in the
> states and functioning on Thurs. Iceland is a pretty visit.
>
> *//*
> *
> *
________________________________ Message 2
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Time: 12:41:34 AM PST US
From: "JAMES BOWEN" <jabowenjr@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: KMD 150 Install manual needed
Thank you very much. I finally got it. I googled it 3 times and looked
and looked, no luck.
Sincerely,
Jim Bowen
>From: Steve <stevea@svpal.org>
>To: rv-list@matronics.com, aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: KMD 150 Install manual needed
>Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:37:22 -0700
>
>
>JAMES BOWEN wrote:
>>
>>I need an install manual for my KMD 150. Thanks in advance.
>>Jim Bowen
>I thought about scanning my copy and sending it to you, then thought
>"Hmmmm, wonder what Google says?" (I've tried before to find it soft
copy
>on the web, but never had any luck.)
>
>Both the installation manual and pilot's guide are here:
>http://www.seaerospace.com/king/kmd150.htm
>
>Steve
>(now with a soft copy IM to back up my hard copy!)
>
>
_________________________________________________________________
http://newlivehotmail.com
________________________________ Message 3
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Time: 12:51:01 AM PST US
From: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Hangar building code issues
I called the local building inspection dept that would ultimate do the
inspection for my hangar. That way I knew what they would be looking
for.
Dale Ensing
That's the problem- I called the building inspector up front and asked
him about the requirements, and he referred me to IBC 412 and the
related Wisconsin building code as the ruling documents. Both of these
spell out the absurdly ridiculous 10 foot above the airplane height
requirement. There isn't a hangar on my airport, nor likely in the
state that conforms to this, yet he won't budge on the issue. So much
for trying to work with the inspector and being reasonable.
Jeff
do not archive
>
________________________________ Message 4
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Time: 02:16:41 AM PST US
From: Bill Settle <billsettle@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Re: RV-List: Hangar building code issues
Another downside to all this is that it has been my experience that you
may try
to comply with what one inspector wants only to have a different
inspector come
out and require something else.
Bill Settle
do not archive
>
> From: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
> Date: 2007/07/17 Tue AM 02:45:29 EST
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Hangar building code issues
>
>
> I called the local building inspection dept that would ultimate do the
> inspection for my hangar. That way I knew what they would be looking
for.
> Dale Ensing
>
> That's the problem- I called the building inspector up front and asked
> him about the requirements, and he referred me to IBC 412 and the
> related Wisconsin building code as the ruling documents. Both of
these
> spell out the absurdly ridiculous 10 foot above the airplane height
> requirement. There isn't a hangar on my airport, nor likely in the
> state that conforms to this, yet he won't budge on the issue. So much
> for trying to work with the inspector and being reasonable.
>
> Jeff
> do not archive
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 5
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Time: 05:27:48 AM PST US
From: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Hangar building code issues
Jeff:
I am jumping into this thread midstream so hope this hasn't been
mentioned.
We had a guy just build a hangar at MNM and came up against the same BS.
What he did is have his electrician wire just one overhead light, well
removed from where any airplane would get 10 ft away, and then had it
inspected. Once he didn't see the inspector's tailights, up went more
lights.
One other thing....At least in MI, if you install lights that are
inclosed
with some sort of diffuser, then the 10 ft rule does not apply. In
other
words, a bare bulb type of light is what they get bent out of shape
about.
Jeff Orear
RV6A N782P
Peshtigo, WI
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Point" <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:45 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Hangar building code issues
>
> I called the local building inspection dept that would ultimate do the
> inspection for my hangar. That way I knew what they would be looking
for.
> Dale Ensing
>
> That's the problem- I called the building inspector up front and asked
him
> about the requirements, and he referred me to IBC 412 and the related
> Wisconsin building code as the ruling documents. Both of these spell
out
> the absurdly ridiculous 10 foot above the airplane height requirement.
> There isn't a hangar on my airport, nor likely in the state that
conforms
> to this, yet he won't budge on the issue. So much for trying to work
with
> the inspector and being reasonable.
>
> Jeff
> do not archive
>>
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 6
_____________________________________
Time: 06:58:36 AM PST US
From: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
Subject: RV-List: Idle set screw adjustment
It's getting close to the initial engine start. I have a MA4-5
Precision Marvel-Schebler carb. I want to check the setting on the
idle adjusting needle but can't find the factory recommended setting
of number of turns out. Anyone got that handy?
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackwing1.jpg
http://rvflying.tripod.com
do not archive
_________________________________________________________________
Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary!
http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_hotmailtextlink2
________________________________ Message 7
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Time: 09:11:23 AM PST US
From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Idle set screw adjustment
I never found anything either. I back the screw out 4 turns or so and
start there. If it won't run at idle (starts on prime and will run with
more prime) then back it out a couple more. If it smokes (black) then
it's too rich and you need to turn it in a couple. Once it runs smooth,
then look for a 50 to 100 RPM rise as you slowly move the mixture to
idle cutoff. You also need to get the idle RPM down around 700 for
starters.
The reason, I think, that ther's no info is that all carbs aren't
created equal .... at least in the idle circuit.
Linn
do not archive
Dana Overall wrote:
>
>
> It's getting close to the initial engine start. I have a MA4-5
> Precision Marvel-Schebler carb. I want to check the setting on the
> idle adjusting needle but can't find the factory recommended setting
> of number of turns out. Anyone got that handy?
>
>
> Dana Overall
> Richmond, KY i39
> RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
> O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
> http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackwing1.jpg
> http://rvflying.tripod.com
> do not archive
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary!
> http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_hotmailtextlink2
>
>
________________________________ Message 8
_____________________________________
Time: 09:14:36 AM PST US
From: "Jim CArey" <tiger10@centurytel.net>
Subject: RE: Re: RV-List: Hangar building code issues
We at kpso Pagosa Springs co, had this proble =m for a while, the 10 ft
thing, and after talkoing to the fire marshal got a reasonable opinion
that
10 ft. from the fuel system was going to be OK. Most of our hangars are
at
least 14 ft high,some a lot more, and it the heater is in a rear corner,
you
will have more than enough room.
Jim Carey asn kpso
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Settle
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:12 AM
Subject: Re: Re: RV-List: Hangar building code issues
Another downside to all this is that it has been my experience that you
may
try to comply with what one inspector wants only to have a different
inspector come out and require something else.
Bill Settle
do not archive
>
> From: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
> Date: 2007/07/17 Tue AM 02:45:29 EST
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Hangar building code issues
>
>
> I called the local building inspection dept that would ultimate do the
> inspection for my hangar. That way I knew what they would be looking
for.
> Dale Ensing
>
> That's the problem- I called the building inspector up front and asked
> him about the requirements, and he referred me to IBC 412 and the
> related Wisconsin building code as the ruling documents. Both of
> these spell out the absurdly ridiculous 10 foot above the airplane
> height requirement. There isn't a hangar on my airport, nor likely in
> the state that conforms to this, yet he won't budge on the issue. So
> much for trying to work with the inspector and being reasonable.
>
> Jeff
> do not archive
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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________________________________ Message 9
_____________________________________
Time: 10:05:36 AM PST US
From: "Eric Parlow" <ericparlow@hotmail.com>
Subject: RV-List: New 540 engine for sale
I have a Factory New O-540-A4D5 engine for sale.
I purchased it for my RV-10 which is behind schedule and will not
require an
engine until next year.
It is identical to an O-540-E4A5 except the data plate rpm rating, 2575
vs
2700.
Easily converted to an IO-540-D4A5 with an Airflow Performance fuel
system
for ~$3,300
See:
http://www.airflowperformance.com/html/kits_lycoming_01.html
Price: $27,000, FOB, Lycoming's dock in Williamsport, PA
Eric Parlow
RV-10, N104EP
(828) 777-7976
________________________________ Message 10
____________________________________
Time: 12:23:27 PM PST US
From: Jeff Dowling <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Electronic Ignition
Its really not a problem to install on the cold side of the firewall.
Yes, you have to cut the supplied cable, but its a simple solder job on
a radio shack 9 pin plug is all it takes to fix. You only need to drill
a very small hole through the firewall.
Shemp
Jim Jewell wrote:
>
> Heat might not be the only enemy here.;
>
> If the best location (in the cabin behind firewall) is not an option,
> the brain box could be shrouded inside a .020 aluminium cool box
> with a blast air tube feeding it cool air.
> The possibility of the introduction of humidity and whatnot being
> introduced via the blast tube must be considered.
> Keep in mind that the brain box was designed to be inside the cabin
> out of the ravages of weather and under cowl contaminates.
> It might not be completely weather and environment proof such as most
> ignition cdi modules etc. that are found under the hoods of
automobiles.
>
> Take care,
>
> Jim in Kelowna - C-GIIG - 30 hr.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* David Schaefer <mailto:n142ds@gmail.com>
> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 15, 2007 4:49 PM
> *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Electronic Ignition
>
> No the unit was on the engine side of the firewall, where I've
> mostly seen them. Room is the primary issue here. Thanks for the
> info. I'm wondering about blast tubes directed on it?
>
> DWS
>
> On 7/15/07, *John Huft* <rv8tor@lazy8.net
> <mailto:rv8tor@lazy8.net>> wrote:
>
> Dang, I guess I am about to fall out of the sky!
>
> David, which model Lightspeed are we talking about?
>
> John
>
>
> Doug Weiler wrote:
>> Yes, the computer must be on the cold side of the firewall!!!
>>
>> Doug Weiler
>> N722DW, 400 hours, dual Lightspeeds with no issues in 150
>> hours of use.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Konrad L. Werner <mailto:klwerner@comcast.net>
>> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com
<mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, July 15, 2007 2:29 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Electronic Ignition
>>
>> I believe the Klaus recommends to put the controller on
>> the cold side of the firewall (inside the cabin). Was
>> this recommendation followed by the builder?
>>
>> do not archive
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* David Schaefer <mailto:n142ds@gmail.com>
>> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com
>> <mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, July 15, 2007 1:16 PM
>> *Subject:* RV-List: Electronic Ignition
>>
>> I saw a brand new Lightspeed fail this weekend ..
>> most probably due to heat under the cowl since it
>> eventually re-set. The aircraft had mags on one side
>> ... so no big deal. However, wouldn't you think that
>> the current generation of electronic ignitions would
>> take into account that under the cowl on an airplane
>> is HOT and make some sort of consideration? It's my
>> understanding that the vast majority of these
>> ignitions controllers are installed on the
>> fire-wall? Anyone else had any ideas,
>> recommendations here? I think these are great
>> electronic ignition systems and am looking to install
>> a pair on an aircraft .. but it was an old fashioned
>> MAG that got us back to the airport!
>>
>> --
>> David W. Schaefer
>> RV-6A N142DS "Geek One"
>> TMX-IOF360 FADEC, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS
>> www.n142ds.com <http://www.n142ds.com>
>>
>> *
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________________________________ Message 11
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Time: 04:42:34 PM PST US
From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Hangar building code issues
Jeff Point wrote:
>
> I called the local building inspection dept that would ultimate do the
> inspection for my hangar. That way I knew what they would be looking
for.
> Dale Ensing
>
> That's the problem- I called the building inspector up front and asked
> him about the requirements, and he referred me to IBC 412 and the
> related Wisconsin building code as the ruling documents. Both of
these
> spell out the absurdly ridiculous 10 foot above the airplane height
> requirement. There isn't a hangar on my airport, nor likely in the
> state that conforms to this, yet he won't budge on the issue. So much
> for trying to work with the inspector and being reasonable.
>
> Jeff
> do not archive
>>
Then don't build a hangar. Build a big storage building with a really
big entry door.
You need to think like a bureaucrat. For instance, it's almost always
easy to get a 'special vfr' clearance to depart an airport, but it will
never be offered to you. (Ya gotta ask.)
Charlie
________________________________ Message 12
____________________________________
Time: 07:11:11 PM PST US
From: Bobby Hester <bobbyhester@charter.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Idle set screw adjustment
Dana, I never could get the 50 to 100 RPM rise that everyone says you
should get.
Surfing the web with my laptop from Hopkinsville, KY
Visit my RV7A website:
http://webpages.charter.net/bobbyhester/MyFlyingRV7A.htm
linn Walters wrote:
>
> I never found anything either. I back the screw out 4 turns or so and
> start there. If it won't run at idle (starts on prime and will run
> with more prime) then back it out a couple more. If it smokes (black)
> then it's too rich and you need to turn it in a couple. Once it runs
> smooth, then look for a 50 to 100 RPM rise as you slowly move the
> mixture to idle cutoff. You also need to get the idle RPM down
> around 700 for starters.
>
> The reason, I think, that ther's no info is that all carbs aren't
> created equal .... at least in the idle circuit.
> Linn
> do not archive
>
> Dana Overall wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> It's getting close to the initial engine start. I have a MA4-5
>> Precision Marvel-Schebler carb. I want to check the setting on the
>> idle adjusting needle but can't find the factory recommended setting
>> of number of turns out. Anyone got that handy?
>>
>>
>> Dana Overall
>> Richmond, KY i39
>> RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
>> O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
>> http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackwing1.jpg
>> http://rvflying.tripod.com
>> do not archive
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary!
>> http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_hotmailtextlink2
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
________________________________ Message 13
____________________________________
Time: 07:41:06 PM PST US
From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Idle set screw adjustment
Bobby Hester wrote:
>
> Dana, I never could get the 50 to 100 RPM rise that everyone says you
> should get.
There are only two reasons not to get the rise .... either it's already
too lean or you're pulling the mixture too fast. I guess if it's too
rich then the rise may not be apparent as you go through the lean spot
prior to cutoff.
Linn
do not archive
>
>
> Surfing the web with my laptop from Hopkinsville, KY
> Visit my RV7A website:
> http://webpages.charter.net/bobbyhester/MyFlyingRV7A.htm
________________________________ Message 14
____________________________________
Time: 10:06:10 PM PST US
From: "H.Ivan Haecker" <baremetl@gvtc.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Idle set screw adjustment
I have never been able to observe the rise either, and I've pulled the
mixture back very slowly more than a few times looking for it. So maybe
my
idle mixture is too lean to have the rise, but it's been this way for
nearly
1400 hrs. with apparent ill effects.
Ivan Haecker -4 1377 hrs. S. Cen. TX
----- Original Message -----
From: "linn Walters" <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Idle set screw adjustment
>
> Bobby Hester wrote:
>
>>
>> Dana, I never could get the 50 to 100 RPM rise that everyone says you
>> should get.
>
> There are only two reasons not to get the rise .... either it's
already
> too lean or you're pulling the mixture too fast. I guess if it's too
rich
> then the rise may not be apparent as you go through the lean spot
prior to
> cutoff.
> Linn
> do not archive
>
>>
>>
>> Surfing the web with my laptop from Hopkinsville, KY
>> Visit my RV7A website:
>> http://webpages.charter.net/bobbyhester/MyFlyingRV7A.htm
>
>
>
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| Subject: | aileron pushrod boots |
EXT-Allen, David wrote:
>
> I'm looking for ideas on how to block the air draft around the aileron
> pushrods where they go from the fuselage to the wing.
> Does anyone make a kit? What material would be appropriate?
> Is it really needed in the midwest winters?
> Dave, RV-9A
Kits are available (I don't recall where) or you can easily make your
own aileron boots:
http://home.hiwaay.net/~sbuc/journal/cold.html#boots
They certainly work well in our southeastern winters. :-)
Sam Buchanan
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http://my.execpc.com/~erdmannb/construction.html
I wish I'd remembered I needed these before I installed my wings.
Tim
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "James H Nelson" <rv9jim@juno.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:49 AM
Subject: RV-List: Drafts
>
> Dave,
> Try Flightline Interiors by Abbe. They are very light.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
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Tim,
I made a set for a friends flying RV6. He just glued them on from the inside
without much difficulty. It took him and a helper about 45 min. to install
them. He used contact cement. They worked well enough.
Jim in Kelowna - RV6-A - 30 hr
----- Original Message -----
From: "Timothy E. Cone" <tcone1@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 6:48 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Drafts
>
> http://my.execpc.com/~erdmannb/construction.html
>
>
> I wish I'd remembered I needed these before I installed my wings.
>
> Tim
> do not archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James H Nelson" <rv9jim@juno.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:49 AM
> Subject: RV-List: Drafts
>
>
>>
>> Dave,
>> Try Flightline Interiors by Abbe. They are very light.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: aileron pushrod boots |
In a message dated 7/18/2007 9:47:46 AM Eastern Standard Time,
sbuc@hiwaay.net writes:
> I'm looking for ideas on how to block the air draft around the aileron
> pushrods where they go from the fuselage to the wing.
> Does anyone make a kit? What material would be appropriate?
> Is it really needed in the midwest winters?
> Dave, RV-9A
Kits are available (I don't recall where) or you can easily make your
own aileron boots:
Boot kits are available from Abby at Flightline Interiors. I have these and
they are made of very flexible and light material that seals very well, and
has almost no effect on the aileron feel.
Dan Hopper
RV-7A
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| Subject: | Re: Hangar building code issues |
Jeff, what exactly is the jurisdisction? I can check with my buddies and see if
a friend can be contacted in the local area that knows teh personalities involved.
The inspector has a boss, she/he may interpert it differently, or other
sections of the code my apply.
What type of fuel? If it is wood then a ten feet stack or a spark arrestor may
be required. It will make little diferance if it is a hangar or storage shed
(hangar is french for shed, IBC is Internatational Building Code.).
Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Jeff Point wrote:
>
> I called the local building inspection dept that would ultimate do the
> inspection for my hangar. That way I knew what they would be looking for.
> Dale Ensing
>
> That's the problem- I called the building inspector up front and asked
> him about the requirements, and he referred me to IBC 412 and the
> related Wisconsin building code as the ruling documents. Both of these
> spell out the absurdly ridiculous 10 foot above the airplane height
> requirement. There isn't a hangar on my airport, nor likely in the
> state that conforms to this, yet he won't budge on the issue. So much
> for trying to work with the inspector and being reasonable.
>
>
Then don't build a hangar. Build a big storage building with a really
big entry door.
You need to think like a bureaucrat. For instance, it's almost always
easy to get a 'special vfr' clearance to depart an airport, but it will
never be offered to you. (Ya gotta ask.)
Charlie
Sherman Butler
RV-7a Wings
Idaho Falls
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Timothy E. Cone wrote:
>
> http://my.execpc.com/~erdmannb/construction.html
>
>
>
> I wish I'd remembered I needed these before I installed my wings.
>
> Tim
They can be installed inside the fuse under the floor:
http://thervjournal.com/cold.html#boots
Sam Buchanan
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Spruce |
Listers, just a quick note about ACS's service, Ordered 3 pm pacific Pckg.
arrived Wed 11 am UPS ground regular.
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Heading up to OSH in a few minutes. We've still got some work to do in
Area 51 (RV parking) but we should be all ready for arrivals by Friday.
Hope to see many of you there. Fly/ drive safe and READ THE NOTAM!!!
Jeff Point
RV-6 flying
RV-8 tail done
Milwaukee
do not archive
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| Subject: | Who's posting from OSH? |
(cross posted)
I know Doug Reeves has arranged a wireless upload for his stuff every day from
Oshkosh, but I'm trying to get a list together of everyone -- anywhere -- who's
posting on a daily (or near daily) basis from Oshkosh, be it Web sites, blogs,
photo uploads etc.
Please post the URL here.
If you intend to wait until you get home to put something together, please let
us know that as well. I usually try to do a RV Builder's Hotline article that
incorporates everyone's sites and I don't want to miss anyone.
Thanks
--------
Bob Collins
St. Paul, Minn.
RV Builder's Hotline (free!)
http://rvhotline.expercraft.com
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