---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 07/26/07: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:14 AM - Re: Re: RV4-List: Tires for RV4 (Dale Ensing) 2. 06:06 AM - Re: Re: RV4-List: Tires for RV4 (Ed Anderson) 3. 09:39 AM - Re: Re: RV4-List: Tires for RV4 (Oldsfolks@aol.com) 4. 10:45 AM - Moving, must sell RV-10 QB (edwisch@cableone.net) 5. 11:33 AM - Re: Aircraft on ground - need help in Denver area. (John Loretz) 6. 12:23 PM - Re: Course over the mountains - east to west (Sherman Butler) 7. 02:49 PM - Re: Re: EAA Criticism - Oshkosh (Tim Bryan) 8. 05:15 PM - Flight Cheetah FL190 GPS? (Ed Anderson) 9. 05:25 PM - Re: Re: EAA Criticism - Oshkosh (Charlie England) 10. 07:05 PM - Re: Re: EAA Criticism - Oshkosh (Ron Lee) 11. 08:37 PM - Re: EAA Criticism - Oshkosh (Bob Collins) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:14:45 AM PST US From: "Dale Ensing" Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: RV4-List: Tires for RV4 I think you are referring to Michelin AirStop tubes. Pricey but worth it. Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: "H.Ivan Haecker" Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 12:59 AM Subject: RV-List: Re: RV4-List: Tires for RV4 > > Bruce, > > For tires I use Goodyear Flight Specials II's. They last me 450 hrs. I > just installed my fourth set recently. I changed to the tubes that don't > leak very much at 900 hrs. I can't recall their name, but they were a big > improvement over the original Goodyear tubes in that I rarely have to add > air. > > Ivan Haecker -4 1380 hrs. S. Cen TX > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bruce Bell" > To: ; "rv-list" > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 12:44 PM > Subject: RV4-List: Tires for RV4 > > >> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Bruce Bell" >> >> Hi All, >> Need tires on my RV4. Looking at Michelin Aviator MT 500-5-6 tires and >> Michelin MT 500-5 tubes. What are the rest of you using? >> Best regards, >> Bruce Bell >> Lubbock, Texas >> >> DO NOT ARCHIVE! >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:24 AM PST US From: "Ed Anderson" Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: RV4-List: Tires for RV4 I fully agree, I have had Michelin AirStop tubes on my bird for over two years - sure nice not having to top-off the air every few months. But, they do cost half the price of a good tire, so not cheap. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Ensing" Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 8:09 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: RV4-List: Tires for RV4 > > I think you are referring to Michelin AirStop tubes. Pricey but worth it. > > Dale > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "H.Ivan Haecker" > To: ; "rv-list" > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 12:59 AM > Subject: RV-List: Re: RV4-List: Tires for RV4 > > >> >> Bruce, >> >> For tires I use Goodyear Flight Specials II's. They last me 450 hrs. I >> just installed my fourth set recently. I changed to the tubes that don't >> leak very much at 900 hrs. I can't recall their name, but they were a big >> improvement over the original Goodyear tubes in that I rarely have to add >> air. >> >> Ivan Haecker -4 1380 hrs. S. Cen TX >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bruce Bell" >> To: ; "rv-list" >> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 12:44 PM >> Subject: RV4-List: Tires for RV4 >> >> >>> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Bruce Bell" >>> >>> Hi All, >>> Need tires on my RV4. Looking at Michelin Aviator MT 500-5-6 tires and >>> Michelin MT 500-5 tubes. What are the rest of you using? >>> Best regards, >>> Bruce Bell >>> Lubbock, Texas >>> >>> DO NOT ARCHIVE! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:39:35 AM PST US From: Oldsfolks@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Re: Re: RV4-List: Tires for RV4 I had a Cessna 180 for 10 years and the small tailwheel tire would seep the air pressure down over a short perion of time. I filled it with "Fix-A-Flat " and it would hold the pressure for a looong time. I think the same would work with the RV tires - what can you lose ?? You would buy the expensive tubes anyway !! Bob Olds RV-4 N1191X Charleston,Arkansas ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:45:54 AM PST US From: "edwisch@cableone.net" Subject: RV-List: Moving, must sell RV-10 QB * Tail kit is mostly done -- and no smileys!! very good workmanship, although you might choose to look at two boo-boos in the horizontal tail, but if you don't like it, those parts are only $500 or so. * Virtually nothing done on the wings or fuselage * No finishing kit -- it went to a neighbor's RV-10 Kit is in Prescott, AZ, $23,000, several thousand less than Van's price Also selling an AirCam, $78,000, 200 hours and a cherry straight tail Cessna, http://www.greatusermanuals.com/c175/, $60,000 edwisch@alum.mit.edu 928 533-9351 (cell) ---- Msg sent via CableONE.net MyMail - http://www.cableone.net ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:33:45 AM PST US From: John Loretz Subject: Re: RV-List: Aircraft on ground - need help in Denver area. Kelly, I live in the Denver area (Centennial KAPA) and have an RV8. I'll give you a call to see if I can help. John On Jul 22, 2007, at 7:37 PM, Kelly Patterson wrote: > > Hi Guys & Gals, > > My RV-6A stuck a valve on the way to OSH and I made an emergency > landing at an airport in Hoxie, Kansas. All went well for my first > real emergency landing and I have a new cylinder on the way to get > the plane airworthy. > > I have a request from a fellow RV pilot in the Denver area. I'm > looking for a ride from the Denver airport (or Front Range airport) > to the Hoxie, KS airport (1F5). I will be in Denver on Friday the > 27th around noon at DEN. I will gladly pay all expenses for a ride > (car or plane) to the field in Hoxie. > > This is the only part of the repair and retreival I have yet to > work out, so any help would be appreciated. > > Please contact me via email: kbob@cox.net or cell phone 602-448-3518. > > Thanks everyone, > > Kelly Patterson > RV-6A N716K > PHX, AZ > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:23:32 PM PST US From: Sherman Butler Subject: Re: RV-List: Course over the mountains - east to west I have had good experiences at every airport I have used in Northern CO and Southern WY. However, I usually stop at Greely KGXY, restraint and SS gas, Clinb up toLarime KLAR cross WY to Rock Springs KRKS, Coss the Mountains, terrain 9,000, to Bear Lake 1U7 or lower terrain at Evanston, North to Soda Springs U78. From there through the pass west over Bancroft U51 to Blackfoot U02 or continue North to Idaho Falls KIDA. The pass at Pocatello KPIH has a dog leg I prefer not to fly. I recommend going on north toe Driggs KDIJ for lunch. Then flying over KAOC will place you over Craters of The Moon as You fly by the entrance to Sun Valley. Twin Falls and Nampa also has a cafeteria. Awhile back there was a thread about flying over the Rockies from east to west, to get to someplace like Portland. I have misplaced that series of emails. I'm about to fly from NC to Portland and would like to revisit that discussion. I believe someone said to just follow I-80 or I-90 or something similar. Any specific route planning would be helpful as a starting point, thanks. John Jessen #40328 do not archive Sherman Butler RV-7a Wings Idaho Falls --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:49:31 PM PST US From: "Tim Bryan" Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: EAA Criticism - Oshkosh > > Will EAA charge? Oh yes. But I wouldn't blame them. I presume it costs > them to provide it and I've seen no evidence that the goal of the > organization is to cut its profit margin. > [Tim] I wouldn't blame them for charging for this service once it works well as it clearly is an extra. But good gosh why do they expect a camping person to pay extra for the shuttle to get to the entrance gate? I paid 350 bucks to camp and go to the show and yet they can't provide a reasonable shuttle service to the main gate? Lets see... 10,000 campers and 600,000 admissions.. I think they could do a shuttle service for free. I have seen no evidence either to support change when things don't work. This is the biggest fly-in anywhere and there are many things that have not kept up in their planning and implementation. Besides being asked to pay for shuttle, it really isn't very effective. They make no adjustments for the changing of the traffic such as in the morning when everyone is going to the gate versus at night when they come back to the campground. I am no traffic engineer, and I didn't stay in a Holiday Inn Express, but I definitely could do a better job of setting up shuttle services. I don't dare complain to the volunteers who spend so much time doing what they can. I for one appreciate them greatly, and EAA could not put this together without them. I would love to have input to the management who has lost touch but I really think it would be a wasted breath. Enjoy the good and throw out the rest. By the way.. Why is it still called (E)AA? I am pretty sure the "E" has become silent. Do Not Archive Tim Local Chapters Are the Best ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:15:58 PM PST US From: "Ed Anderson" Subject: RV-List: Flight Cheetah FL190 GPS? Does anyone on the list have any personal experience with owning/using the Flight Cheetah FL190 GPS? If so, what is your general overall impression and would you recommend it. Thanks Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:25:30 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: EAA Criticism - Oshkosh Tim Bryan wrote: > > > >> Will EAA charge? Oh yes. But I wouldn't blame them. I presume it costs >> them to provide it and I've seen no evidence that the goal of the >> organization is to cut its profit margin. >> > > [Tim] > I wouldn't blame them for charging for this service once it works well as it > clearly is an extra. But good gosh why do they expect a camping person to > pay extra for the shuttle to get to the entrance gate? I paid 350 bucks to > camp and go to the show and yet they can't provide a reasonable shuttle > service to the main gate? Lets see... 10,000 campers and 600,000 > admissions.. I think they could do a shuttle service for free. > > I have seen no evidence either to support change when things don't work. > This is the biggest fly-in anywhere and there are many things that have not > kept up in their planning and implementation. Besides being asked to pay > for shuttle, it really isn't very effective. They make no adjustments for > the changing of the traffic such as in the morning when everyone is going to > the gate versus at night when they come back to the campground. I am no > traffic engineer, and I didn't stay in a Holiday Inn Express, but I > definitely could do a better job of setting up shuttle services. > > I don't dare complain to the volunteers who spend so much time doing what > they can. I for one appreciate them greatly, and EAA could not put this > together without them. I would love to have input to the management who has > lost touch but I really think it would be a wasted breath. > > Enjoy the good and throw out the rest. > > By the way.. Why is it still called (E)AA? I am pretty sure the "E" has > become silent. > > Do Not Archive > Tim > Local Chapters Are the Best Here's a somewhat relevant example of another large spectator event. In another life, I worked for several years at a major music festival. Attendance was somewhat similar to OSH, with 40k to 60k people per day. Entry fees were (and are) similar to OSH. There was no camping & therefore no burden of shower setup, but there was no camping revenue and the difficulties with cleanup & security were many, many times greater with tens of thousands of drunks dropping their trash every day. It was run by a non-profit corp. Every person working, from security to ticket takers to sound & light companies to the literally thousands of performers, got paid, and paid well. When the last cleanup guy left & the books were balanced each year, a hefty sum (the 'profits') went to local cultural & arts causes. As far as I know, that's still the case. I've never been able to figure out where all the OSH money goes when virtually every worker, including the performers & those bringing show planes (except the security people) is a volunteer. (Yes, I know they publish a report. The Feds publish a 'budget' every year, too.) Charlie ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:05:35 PM PST US From: "Ron Lee" Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: EAA Criticism - Oshkosh > I've never been able to figure out where all the OSH money goes when > virtually every worker, including the performers & those bringing show > planes (except the security people) is a volunteer. Can you say "profit for the family" Ron Lee ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:37:19 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: Re: EAA Criticism - Oshkosh From: "Bob Collins" I haven't taken the bus (I have a parking spot in the media lot) this year, but I've certainly taken the bus from camp before.What are they charging this year. In the past there's always been a box next to the driver with a suggested donation of 25 cents. I always put a dollar in becuase I was ashamed of my fellow passengers who had no problem spending $30,000 for an instrument panel, but couldn't fork over 25 cents for a bus ride. -------- Bob Collins St. Paul, Minn. 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