RV-List Digest Archive

Sun 08/05/07


Total Messages Posted: 6



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:50 AM - Re: Need source for rivet (Tim Lewis)
     2. 07:46 AM - Re: Canopy Covers - Choice of Continuos use - or Light Weight (Paul Besing)
     3. 08:11 AM - Something We Really Need (Louis Willig)
     4. 12:21 PM - Re: Something We Really Need (David Leonard)
     5. 12:46 PM - Re: Something We Really Need (Bayne)
     6. 04:42 PM - FW: RV4 Project for sale, including engine, tools, instruments (john@jallenplace.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:50:27 AM PST US
    From: Tim Lewis <Tim_Lewis@msm.umr.edu>
    Subject: Re: Need source for rivet
    Depending on the application, a 1/4" round head steel screw and nyloc nut might be an easier solution. The screw will be stronger than an aluminum rivet, and it won't require a compatible rivet set like the AN470AD8 will. -- Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA) RV-6A N47TD -- 900 hrs RV-10 #40059 under construction Travis Hamblen wrote: > > I am looking for 10 either AN470AD8 or MS20470AD8 rivets (two > different part numbers for the same rivet). I realize this rivet is > REALLY wide for our typical application, but I have a specific need > and just can not find a source for the rivet! The length is > unimportant, as I can cut them down to the size I need. If you have > any information as to where I can get these PLEASE e-mail me! Did I > mention that once I have these bad boys squeezed into the holes they > will be filling, the plane will be signed off and first flight will be > made!! By the way, ACS and the usual sources stop at AD6 rivets! > > Travis > TravisHamblen@gmail.com > >


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    Time: 07:46:36 AM PST US
    From: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Canopy Covers - Choice of Continuos use - or Light Weight
    I would personally never use a canopy cover for extended periods of time. Over night maybe, as long as you aren't in a dusty environment. Any dirt under the cover and when the wind blows, and all of a sudden you have microscratches all over your canopy. I would consider an internal cover of some sort, not an external one. Paul Besing Ernie & Margo <ekells@sympatico.ca> wrote: Would someone with experience in using both the heavy canopy cover and the light cover like to comment on their performance. I am considering the Canopy Cover RV-9/9A (continuous duty) at $335 and the Canopy Cover LW-6EXT (Light Weight}at $185. Cost is not the issue. My impression is that the the heay cover is designed to protect parked airplanes and the light weight models are designed for travel. I plan to do a lot of cross-country flying 12 months per year. This includes exposure to snow and ice, desert sun, etc., a couple of weeks at a time. The light weight cover may not measure up to the heavy duty use, but is the "continuous duty" cover too heavy and too bulky for travelling - perhaps 50% of all flight hours. Will the Light Weight travel cover self-destruct with winter trips in the north-east and Canada. I would appreciate any experience or insight. Ernest Kells - RV/9A (testing electricals / preparing for the final inspecton) --------------------------------- Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links.


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    Time: 08:11:01 AM PST US
    From: Louis Willig <larywil@comcast.net>
    Subject: Something We Really Need
    Hi gang, Many of us have problems with the expense, and availability of hangars for our RV's. At over $400/month for a "T" in the Philadelphia area if you could even find one, I and several others have discussed tie down solutions. None of which are palatable. Any one who ties down his/her aircraft outside will have to find a temporary hangar in which to do repairs and maintenance. That's OK, do-able. But few of us live in a geographical area that is acceptable for long-term outside storage in terms of heat cold and moisture. I have recently spent some time in the almost perfect weather of Albuquerque and Santa Fe, and still find them only marginal for long term outside storage of an RV. What many of us really need is a solution that consists of some sort of shell that covers and protects our aircraft, can be removed easily, and would be acceptable to the airport and insurance companies (We don't want the thing blowing away and damaging other aircraft). Do any of you on this list have any ideas how to create the "Tie Down Hangar" I am conceptualizing? It would be worth a fortune to the person who can create and provide a secure "Tie Down Hangar" that the airport would find acceptable. - Louis I Willig 1640 Oakwood Dr. Penn Valley, PA 19072 610 668-4964 RV-4, N180PF 190HP IO-360, C/S prop


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    Time: 12:21:57 PM PST US
    From: "David Leonard" <wdleonard@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Something We Really Need
    I'm with you, we really do need something (not really an entirely new idea I'm sure). One problem is that my airport will not allow any kind of a tarp or awning. Whatever it is would have to be entirely supported by the aircraft itself... I have been thinking about some sort of tarp that will cover the canopy area supported by clamps on the wings or fuselage. But a reasonable design escapes me. -- David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net On 8/5/07, Louis Willig <larywil@comcast.net> wrote: > > > Hi gang, > > Many of us have problems with the expense, and availability of > hangars for our RV's. At over $400/month for a "T" in the > Philadelphia area if you could even find one, I and several others > have discussed tie down solutions. None of which are palatable. Any > one who ties down his/her aircraft outside will have to find a > temporary hangar in which to do repairs and maintenance. That's OK, > do-able. But few of us live in a geographical area that is > acceptable for long-term outside storage in terms of heat cold and > moisture. I have recently spent some time in the almost perfect > weather of Albuquerque and Santa Fe, and still find them only > marginal for long term outside storage of an RV. > > What many of us really need is a solution that consists of some sort > of shell that covers and protects our aircraft, can be removed > easily, and would be acceptable to the airport and insurance > companies (We don't want the thing blowing away and damaging other > aircraft). Do any of you on this list have any ideas how to create > the "Tie Down Hangar" I am conceptualizing? It would be worth a > fortune to the person who can create and provide a secure "Tie Down > Hangar" that the airport would find acceptable. > > > - > Louis I Willig > 1640 Oakwood Dr. > Penn Valley, PA 19072 > 610 668-4964 > RV-4, N180PF > 190HP IO-360, C/S prop > >


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    Time: 12:46:14 PM PST US
    From: "Bayne" <bjust@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Something We Really Need
    The Plane Pocket may be a suitable alternative. http://www.planepocket.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louis Willig" <larywil@comcast.net> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 8:10 AM Subject: RV-List: Something We Really Need > > Hi gang, > > Many of us have problems with the expense, and availability of hangars for > our RV's. At over $400/month for a "T" in the Philadelphia area if you > could even find one, I and several others have discussed tie down > solutions. None of which are palatable. Any one who ties down his/her > aircraft outside will have to find a temporary hangar in which to do > repairs and maintenance. That's OK, do-able. But few of us live in a > geographical area that is acceptable for long-term outside storage in > terms of heat cold and moisture. I have recently spent some time in the > almost perfect weather of Albuquerque and Santa Fe, and still find them > only marginal for long term outside storage of an RV. > > What many of us really need is a solution that consists of some sort of > shell that covers and protects our aircraft, can be removed easily, and > would be acceptable to the airport and insurance companies (We don't want > the thing blowing away and damaging other aircraft). Do any of you on this > list have any ideas how to create the "Tie Down Hangar" I am > conceptualizing? It would be worth a fortune to the person who can create > and provide a secure "Tie Down Hangar" that the airport would find > acceptable. > > > - > Louis I Willig > 1640 Oakwood Dr. > Penn Valley, PA 19072 > 610 668-4964 > RV-4, N180PF > 190HP IO-360, C/S prop > > > -- > 269.11.4/936 - Release Date: 8/4/2007 2:42 PM > >


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    Time: 04:42:40 PM PST US
    Subject: FW: RV4 Project for sale, including engine, tools, instruments
    From: john@jallenplace.com
    =0A =0A =0A =0A=0AJack Gageby, a long time RV-4 builder, suffered a debilitating stroke last year. It is apparent that he won=99t fly again. That=99s a tough break for Jack, but leaves an opportunity for someone to take over his RV-4 project.=0A=0AHis wife has asked me to help sell the -4, which is currently located at Fallon (FLX) near Reno, NV. The airframe is in a stage roughly equivalent to a Van=99s =9Cquickbuild=9D. There is an O320-E2D first run engine core with accessories and logbooks. There i s also a radio and a number of instruments.=0A=0AMy thinking is that this w ould be an excellent way for someone to walk into an RV4 project at a =9Cquickbuild=9D level without having to separately acquire an eng ine or tools. The project is at a point where the builder could legitimatel y claim to be under the 51% rule and receive the benefits thereof.=0A=0AMy guess is an appropriate price would be in the $25k range for the airframe, instruments, kit, and tools. We would also be willing to entertain offers o n the separate components, though we have no interest in separating the air frame kit itself. =0A =0AJack's work was quite meticulous. =0A=0APictures of the project can be seen at http://picasaweb.google.com/ja llenplace/RV4Parts =0A=0AYou can contact me to get additional information.: =0A=0AJohn Allen=0A626.676-8987 cell=0Arvator@jallenplace.com=0A=0ABTW. Jac k's hangar partner, John Morgensen, is available on site and on request to show the kit to prospective buyers. John is an RV-9 builder.=0A=0ARegards, =0A=0AJohn Allen=0ARV-6A=0A=0A=0A




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