---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 08/07/07: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:42 AM - Re: Priming steel nose gear leg (Dale Ensing) 2. 08:52 AM - Re: Seeking RV6 Cross Country routing tips (Leland & Anne) 3. 09:12 AM - Infinity stick grips (Bill VonDane) 4. 09:56 AM - Re: Infinity stick grips (Tailgummer@aol.com) 5. 10:05 AM - Re: Infinity stick grips (Ed) 6. 10:17 AM - Re: Infinity stick grips (cbrxxdrv@aol.com) 7. 12:27 PM - Re: Infinity stick grips (Carl Bell) 8. 12:56 PM - Float fittings, Eustace Bowhay's products still available?? (Terry Mortimore) 9. 01:05 PM - Rudder wiring? (James H Nelson) 10. 01:42 PM - OAT & CAT Probes (Tim Bryan) 11. 01:45 PM - Re: Infinity stick grips (cbrxxdrv@aol.com) 12. 02:15 PM - Re: Infinity stick grips (Robin Marks) 13. 02:50 PM - Rep cert (Wheeler North) 14. 02:53 PM - Re: Rudder wiring? (William Gill) 15. 03:33 PM - AMD Patriot (Ken Arnold) 16. 04:39 PM - Re: Float fittings, Eustace Bowhay's products still available?? (David Burton) 17. 09:18 PM - Re: Rudder wiring? (Patrick Kelley) 18. 11:32 PM - Re: Rudder wiring? (Fiveonepw@aol.com) 19. 11:38 PM - Re: Infinity stick grips (Fiveonepw@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:42:26 AM PST US From: "Dale Ensing" Subject: Re: RV-List: Priming steel nose gear leg Ron, I would recommend a two part epoxy over the GBP 988 primer. The 988 is not formulated to be a final finish but will provide a good base for the epoxy. Dale Ensing ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Lee To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 11:49 PM Subject: RV-List: Priming steel nose gear leg I got my modified nose gear leg back today and noticed some rust. So I will clean that up and need to protect it. After spending about 30 minutes in the archives I am not certain of an acceptable approach. I have GBP 988 spray cans but some posts suggest that it has to be covered with something else. Is that correct and if so any recommendations on commonly available final coating products. Ron Lee ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:52:38 AM PST US From: "Leland & Anne" Subject: RV-List: Re: Seeking RV6 Cross Country routing tips David, St Johns (SJN) in eastern Arizona has the cheapest fuel ($3.67), a friendly staff and free courtesy cars, with a dashboard sticker reading "Use overdrive in high-speed pursuit". The two motels in St Johns are minimalist. Tehachapi (TSP) has $3.99 fuel, and you can remain at low altitude while flying over the Tehachapi pass to the north. The Apple Shed restaurant is a short walk from the airport and has really good food. Next cheapest gas going north is Gustine. On the way to St Johns, consider stopping at Granbury, Texas (GDJ) for $5 hangar parking with $4 fuel and a courtesy car (and a big bunch of experimentals). Natchitoches in Louisiana has courtesy cars, several neat B&B's, and an old and fascinating city center. Hattiesburg, Mississippi (HBG) is pricey but has good service, including $80 oxygen refils. Take off at first light to avoid mid-day thunderstorms. I just came over that route last weekend and dodging the buildups was challenging. Leland RV9A ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:12:10 AM PST US From: Bill VonDane Subject: RV-List: Infinity stick grips Anyone else pull their hair out trying to find anything on the infinity web site? I could use a wiring diagram for the infinity stick grips if anyone has it... Thanks! -Bill bill@vondane.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:56:09 AM PST US From: Tailgummer@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Infinity stick grips Don't know if the pdf attachments will go through. All of the information is on the website, though. Once you go through the diagrams it all begins to make sense. If you can't get these, mail me off line. Love this grip!! John D'Onofrio RV8 N585JD (_Tailgummer@aol.com_ (mailto:Tailgummer@aol.com) ) http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:05:04 AM PST US From: Ed Subject: Re: RV-List: Infinity stick grips Bill VonDane wrote: > > Anyone else pull their hair out trying to find anything on the > infinity web site? > > I could use a wiring diagram for the infinity stick grips if anyone > has it... > > Thanks! > -Bill > bill@vondane.com > > /http://www.infinityaerospace.com/gripwire.pdf It's not a diagram, but it does show all the possible switch configurations and wire colors. You can easily verify the wires to the correct switches with an ohmmeter. I printed it out and highlighted the switches and wire colors for easy ID. Pax, Ed Holyoke / ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:17:43 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: Infinity stick grips From: cbrxxdrv@aol.com They are made to order and should come with a diagram. Get out your ohm meter and do a little testing and it will all make sense. Some of the switches are momentary, some are normally open some are flap switches some are....well you get the idea. If you contact them you may find he has a record of it and can send/fax you a copy. Sal N898SC RV8 Done Lakeland FL -----Original Message----- From: Bill VonDane Sent: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 12:11 pm Subject: RV-List: Infinity stick grips ? Anyone else pull their hair out trying to find anything on the infinity web site?? ? I could use a wiring diagram for the infinity stick grips if anyone has it...? ? Thanks!? -Bill? bill@vondane.com? ? ? ? ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:27:12 PM PST US From: "Carl Bell" Subject: RE: RV-List: Infinity stick grips How much are these now and who handle them? _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tailgummer@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 12:55 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Infinity stick grips Don't know if the pdf attachments will go through. All of the information is on the website, though. Once you go through the diagrams it all begins to make sense. If you can't get these, mail me off line. Love this grip!! John D'Onofrio RV8 N585JD (Tailgummer@aol.com) AOL.com. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:56:57 PM PST US From: Terry Mortimore Subject: RV-List: Float fittings, Eustace Bowhay's products still available?? Hi Gang: As my fuselage comes out of the jig I'm wondering if I should install float fittings that would allow float installation down the road. I have no immediate plans for float flying, I just thought that that now would be the best time to install them. I'm wondering if Eustace Bowhays conversion kit is still available? Any body out there know? Who would I get a hold of? I also noticed Trey Johnson's float equipped RV-7 in the latest RVator, anyone know how he went about mounting the floats? Better yet any one have his email address? Thanks for the help, Terry. Terry Mortimore 426 McNabb Street Apt#4 Sault Ste Marie, Ontario P6B 1Z3 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:05:24 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: Rudder wiring? From: James H Nelson I am about to wire the tail light/strobe on the bottom of the rudder. What is the best direction to run the wires out of the rudder and into the back of the fuselage. I am inclined to run it out the bottom of the rudder (maybe 1/2" up) and upward a bit (about 2-1/2") and then into the back of the fuselage. This will allow for the twisting of the wires during the usage of the rudder and minimize the stress on the wires in between the vertical stabilizer and the rudder. Or should I run a loop going upward and then back down and into the rudder and fuselage. /\ staying away from the bottom rod end. I can also cover the wire with the __/ \__ spiral wrap to protect the cable from abrasion. Any help would be appreciated. Jim RV9-A N15JN ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:42:09 PM PST US From: "Tim Bryan" Subject: RV-List: OAT & CAT Probes Does anyone know what OAT and CAT probes work with the VM1000 besides the ones they make themselves? Looking for something more economical than $ 165 each. Thanks Tim ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:45:41 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: Infinity stick grips From: cbrxxdrv@aol.com www.infinityaerospace.com Sal -----Original Message----- From: Carl Bell Sent: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 3:25 pm Subject: RE: RV-List: Infinity stick grips How much are these now and who handle them? ? From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tailgummer@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 12:55 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Infinity stick grips ? Don't know if the pdf attachments will go through.?All of the information is on the website, though.? Once you go through the diagrams it all begins to make sense.? If you can't get these, mail me off line. ? Love this grip!! ? John D'Onofrio RV8 N585JD ?(Tailgummer@aol.com) AOL.com. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:15:38 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Infinity stick grips From: "Robin Marks" The basic grip went from $150 to $175 recently. The seller had not raised his pricing in 10 years. One has to consider adding additional cable and any other custom item but of the 4 units I have ordered they all came in at just over the base price. Rather than using his online or fax order system I always call. It simplifies all the research required to order exactly what you need (spacers etc...) I am very happy with my Infinity grips. Robin From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] Ontom Behalf Of Carl Bell Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 12:26 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Infinity stick grips How much are these now and who handle them? ________________________________ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tailgummer@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 12:55 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Infinity stick grips Don't know if the pdf attachments will go through. All of the information is on the website, though. Once you go through the diagrams it all begins to make sense. If you can't get these, mail me off line. Love this grip!! John D'Onofrio RV8 N585JD (Tailgummer@aol.com) AOL.com. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:50:32 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: Rep cert From: "Wheeler North" One doesn't need a repairman's certificate to maintain an experimental, anybody can do it. Part 43 does not apply R/C is only for annual cond insp priveledges and even that is tough to define other than the required signature as no one knows what the heck an annual condition inspection is.... Nor are there any criteria by which one would determine if any given part is airworthy or not, so what's to inspect since it all could be good or bad regardless of what "condition" anyone think it's in??? ;{) Do not archive, and please do not attach the rest of the stinking digest to any replies... ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:53:48 PM PST US From: "William Gill" Subject: RE: RV-List: Rudder wiring? Hello Jim, Attached are photos of how I accomplished this task -- not the prettiest, but effective. The slot on the rudder butt allows the wires to stay put without bending stresses when the rudder is exercised. There is about 3 layers of heat shrink protection over the wires should excessive rubbing occur, which I will monitor. In a "static" condition, there is little if any contact with the wires. Bill Gill RV-7 FWF & finishing Lee's Summit, Missouri -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James H Nelson Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 3:03 PM Subject: RV-List: Rudder wiring? I am about to wire the tail light/strobe on the bottom of the rudder. What is the best direction to run the wires out of the rudder and into the back of the fuselage. I am inclined to run it out the bottom of the rudder (maybe 1/2" up) and upward a bit (about 2-1/2") and then into the back of the fuselage. This will allow for the twisting of the wires during the usage of the rudder and minimize the stress on the wires in between the vertical stabilizer and the rudder. Or should I run a loop going upward and then back down and into the rudder and fuselage. /\ staying away from the bottom rod end. I can also cover the wire with the __/ \__ spiral wrap to protect the cable from abrasion. Any help would be appreciated. Jim RV9-A N15JN ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:33:17 PM PST US From: "Ken Arnold" Subject: RV-List: AMD Patriot The new web site: http://sport.aero/specifications.html Ken CH701 N701LK 70% ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:39:21 PM PST US From: "David Burton" Subject: RE: RV-List: Float fittings, Eustace Bowhay's products still available?? Eustace worked with these folks while developing his float set-up: http://www.czechsportplanes.com/FLOATS.htm Probably a good place to start... Good luck, Dave -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Terry Mortimore Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 12:56 PM Subject: RV-List: Float fittings, Eustace Bowhay's products still available?? Hi Gang: As my fuselage comes out of the jig I'm wondering if I should install float fittings that would allow float installation down the road. I have no immediate plans for float flying, I just thought that that now would be the best time to install them. I'm wondering if Eustace Bowhays conversion kit is still available? Any body out there know? Who would I get a hold of? I also noticed Trey Johnson's float equipped RV-7 in the latest RVator, anyone know how he went about mounting the floats? Better yet any one have his email address? Thanks for the help, Terry. Terry Mortimore 426 McNabb Street Apt#4 Sault Ste Marie, Ontario P6B 1Z3 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:18:32 PM PST US From: "Patrick Kelley" Subject: RE: RV-List: Rudder wiring? I was going to put a connector there, until I realized that it would just be a flex point. I ended up drilling an opening between the tie-down mount and the bottom hinge and using a grommet. The wire continues down into the bottom fairing and there's a fair service loop so I can make the attachment to the Whelen assembly outside the rear of the mount. Once in place, there's little movement of the wire at the front of the rudder. I still intend to install some rubber material, left over from the fairings below the horizontal stabilizer, into the opening in the rudder leading edge. The idea another person had of using heat-shrink tubing as anti-chafe protection is excellent; you could also use some of the nylon woven tubing used in bundling wires and hold it in place with a little heat-shrink. I don't think the nylon would wear through and it would look very custom. Patrick Kelley - RV-6A - still waiting on panel (Aerotronics is nearly done, ahead of schedule, and it looks great!) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James H Nelson Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 1:03 PM Subject: RV-List: Rudder wiring? I am about to wire the tail light/strobe on the bottom of the rudder. What is the best direction to run the wires out of the rudder and into the back of the fuselage. I am inclined to run it out the bottom of the rudder (maybe 1/2" up) and upward a bit (about 2-1/2") and then into the back of the fuselage. This will allow for the twisting of the wires during the usage of the rudder and minimize the stress on the wires in between the vertical stabilizer and the rudder. Or should I run a loop going upward and then back down and into the rudder and fuselage. /\ staying away from the bottom rod end. I can also cover the wire with the __/ \__ spiral wrap to protect the cable from abrasion. Any help would be appreciated. Jim RV9-A N15JN ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 11:32:53 PM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Rudder wiring? In a message dated 8/7/2007 3:07:49 PM Central Daylight Time, rv9jim@juno.com writes: What is the best direction to run the wires out of the rudder and into the back of the fuselage. >>> May not be the best, but this has worked well for almost 450 hours for me so far... _http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/index.php?q=log_entry&log_id=5415_ (http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/index.php?q=log_entry&log_id=5415) Mark Phillips _http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/_ (http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/) http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 11:38:45 PM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Infinity stick grips In a message dated 8/7/2007 4:17:02 PM Central Daylight Time, robin1@mrmoisture.com writes: One has to consider adding additional cable and any other custom item but of the 4 units I have ordered they all came in at just over the base price. I highly recommend ordering a lot of extra cable length- I ordered direct from ACS and the cable length was pretty skimpy. Probably better to get direct from Infinity. Also be very cognizant of which pushbuttons are included, such as momentary or on-off-on... 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