---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 08/08/07: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:50 AM - First engine start (Dana Overall) 2. 06:05 AM - 2 part engine question (Charles Heathco) 3. 06:10 AM - Rudder wiring? (James H Nelson) 4. 06:46 AM - Re: First engine start (Tim Bryan) 5. 07:42 AM - 2 part engine question (James H Nelson) 6. 08:12 AM - Re: First engine start (Ron Lee) 7. 09:44 AM - Float Fittings (michael@robbins.us.com) 8. 10:58 AM - Rudder wiring (James H Nelson) 9. 06:52 PM - Re: Rudder wiring (William Gill) 10. 10:02 PM - Re: Seeking RV6 Cross Country routing tips (AirMike) 11. 10:08 PM - Re: Rudder wiring? (Fiveonepw@aol.com) 12. 10:13 PM - Re: First engine start (Fiveonepw@aol.com) 13. 10:45 PM - Time or Money (Reginald C. Smith, Sr.) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:50:22 AM PST US From: Dana Overall Subject: RV-List: First engine start Just for grins, it's been posted on other forums but last Sunday was a mile stone:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vig7dw2vX0Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackwing1.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _________________________________________________________________ Recharge--play some free games. Win cool prizes too! http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=CLUB_wlmailtextlink ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:05:20 AM PST US From: "Charles Heathco" Subject: RV-List: 2 part engine question I have a low time O-320 150 hp that I installed last yr. Flying late Mon eve low and fast, ( rv6a) I saw my oil temp creep up to 220. It tends to run hotter than theold engine but I would like some inout on what temp is considered on the edge of too hot? Part 2- I have been interested in an engine monitor, but panel is full and only option would be to hang it someplace. I like the size and what looks like very good unit for the money, the little Grand Rapids 4 cyl EIS. Is anyone using this unit, or are familiar with it? Charlie Heathco, (FYV) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:10:19 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Rudder wiring? From: James H Nelson Hi Mark, Did you run the cable into the rudder by expanding the opening for the bottom rod end? Thus letting the cable just "drop" into the lower area or did you use a grommet in the rudder to get it into the lower area? Jim Nelson ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:46:54 AM PST US From: "Tim Bryan" Subject: RE: RV-List: First engine start Nice, I hear flight in your near future. Tim Do Not Archive _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dana Overall Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 4:49 AM Subject: RV-List: First engine start Just for grins, it's been posted on other forums but last Sunday was a milestone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vig7dw2vX0 Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4 http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackwing1.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _____ Recharge--play some free games. Win cool prizes too! Play It! ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:42:36 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: 2 part engine question From: James H Nelson Charlie, The GRT EIS system is great. I'm on my second build and would not be with out it. The key thing is the parameters you set up that will cause the alarm light to illuminate. Thus you can see when things are becoming a problem. Have you considered installing the low oil sensor in the case?. Since our Lycoming use oil, and we don't know how fast, I've installed one to alert me when the level reaches (in my case) 3.2 quarts. Aircraft Extras.com has the unit. Its cheep and will give me peace of mind. At least I will have a short time to find a place to land instead of a panic when everything goes south - rising temps and oil pressure going down for lack of oil in the system. I'm just a little paranoid. My Rotax 912 never used any oil so it was a non-issue. Jim ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:12:58 AM PST US From: "Ron Lee" Subject: Re: RV-List: First engine start September 21 is approaching. There should be plenty of time to iron out issues and complete the test phase. Ron Lee Nice, I hear flight in your near future. Tim Do Not Archive Just for grins, it's been posted on other forums but last Sunday was a milestone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vig7dw2vX0 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:44:53 AM PST US From: michael@robbins.us.com Subject: RV-List: Float Fittings Trey Johnson?s email address is N67683@gmail.com. I?m not sure he wants it made public, but he seemed OK giving it to me at the NWEAA fly in Arlington, WA (I didn?t see you there Dave), so there it is. I emailed him about two weeks ago as I?m considering putting floats on my RV-8, but he never responded. His airplane is based at Renton, WA, about 20 miles from where I am. His floats were made by Clamar Floats (clamarfloats.com) in London, Ontario (in your backyard Terry) and run about $30k USD. Not cheap, but they are beautiful floats. I talked to Claire Sceli, the owner, and he said he makes all the fittings and can make them for an 8. The floats were installed by Synergy Air in Eugene, OR (synergyair.com). I also talked to Wally, the owner, and would have him work up an installation for me if I decide to do this. There are issues with limited elevator authority that they (Trey and Wally) are still working on. I?ve decided that my next project is a float plane, so if I don?t do this to the 8 I may sell it and buy a RANS S7 and put it on floats. I lot cheaper with money left over. Mike Robbins RV-8 N88MJ Sammamish, WA ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:58:20 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Rudder wiring From: James H Nelson Hi Bill, I like that idea. It looks nice and the wiring looks to be well protected. I think that I may do it that way. I will make a bit of a "ramp" / flat surface for the wiring to ride on. That would give the sleeved wiring a smooth surface if it touches the fiberglass. It will just take a few more days (again) to do it. Jim Nelson 95% done and 15% to go ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:53 PM PST US From: "William Gill" Subject: RE: RV-List: Rudder wiring Jim, The "ramp" you mention is exactly what I did. I applied several layers of fiberglass and filler to yield about 3/8" lip inside the slot on the rudder butt. The tail wheel spring mount certainly limits one's options in this area. Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James H Nelson Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 12:54 PM Subject: RV-List: Rudder wiring Hi Bill, I like that idea. It looks nice and the wiring looks to be well protected. I think that I may do it that way. I will make a bit of a "ramp" / flat surface for the wiring to ride on. That would give the sleeved wiring a smooth surface if it touches the fiberglass. It will just take a few more days (again) to do it. Jim Nelson 95% done and 15% to go ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:02:14 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: Re: Seeking RV6 Cross Country routing tips From: "AirMike" I like I80 route over the Rockies. The southern route is too hot this time of year. Depart Ft. Collins CO go north to intersect I80 and just follow it to the bay area. Max alt is 9500 ft. Do your flying before noon and it is not too bad , but you alway get beat up over Wyoming. Watch to MOA's in NV, but there is a VRF corridor near Fallon. In So Cal the Edwards AF Base folks shaft you every time with their mega blocks of restricted air space that you cannot go thru. But then again they are protecting our butts. Gotta go to Gnoss or Oakland. San Rafael is private. Good stops are Ft Collins, Ft. Bridger, Ogden or Salt Lake City, Wendover, Reno (Jet West) and Truckee (5900') Oxygen is good (higher cooler faster) but you can live without it for one trip. I like to get high and cool -------- OSH '08 or Bust Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=128221#128221 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:08:22 PM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Rudder wiring? In a message dated 8/8/2007 8:12:31 AM Central Daylight Time, rv9jim@juno.com writes: Did you run the cable into the rudder by expanding the opening for the bottom rod end? Thus letting the cable just "drop" into the lower area or did you use a grommet in the rudder to get it into the lower area? Hi Jim- The wiring exits the fuse through a grommet in the VS spar. I cut a slot side to side in the rudder bottom that the wires pass through just wide enough to clear them when the rudder moves to each stop. There is maybe 1/2" of glass between the top of the slot to the opening for the lower rod end cutout. The wires just drop down into the rudder bottom and go aft with enough extra length for a "service loop" to allow the strobe/taillight to be removed to expose the wires for disconnection via an AMP connector on a short pigtail from it. Feel free to contact me off-list if ya'd like a better description... Mark http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:13:25 PM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: First engine start Yeah, right- what a TEASE! Video should be shot from OUTSIDE!!! What is this, some kind of stealth fighter yer buildin' or WHAT?! 8-) Way to go, Dana- get that sucker in the air so we can meet for breakfast, which will be when??? Mark - do not archive http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:45:30 PM PST US From: "Reginald C. Smith, Sr." Subject: RV-List: Time or Money Does anyone know how much time is saved by purchasing a Quick-Build Fuselage Kit in place of the standard fuselage kit for a 6A? Is it worth the additional 5K? It was also suggested that that option could save as much as a year of building. Since most of you have passed this way already, your opinions will be valued greatly. So, what were your experiences? Thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Booking a flight? 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