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Sat 08/18/07


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     1. 03:12 PM - Re: Seeking good bad experiences with alternators (GV) ()
     2. 03:13 PM - Alternator bushes, check them, they all wear ()
     3. 08:36 PM - Re: GPS/XM antenna interference (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
     4. 08:36 PM - LSE Direct crank vs. Hall effect (H.Ivan Haecker)
     5. 09:20 PM - Re: Re: Seeking good and bad experiences with Plane Power, B&C alter... (H.Ivan Haecker)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:12:21 PM PST US
    From: <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Seeking good bad experiences with alternators (GV)
    >From: Vanremog@aol.com >Subject: Re: Seeking good and bad experiences with Plane >Power, B&C alternator. > > >I believe that George meant to say alodined (chem film per >MIL-C-5541) rather than anodized (per MIL-A-8625) >because, if you were to anodize the housing, you would >have to do it selectively (not in the area that makes chassis >ground contact), since anodizing is insulative. My B&C is >chem filmed and chem. film (chromate) is conductive. > > >GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 864hrs, Silicon >Valley, CA) Thanks for the correction. I did mean to say anodized, but you are right, anodize would be a poor choice, conductive wise. I am probably mistaken, but...... I talked to Steve at Plane-Power and he said something he does some with corrosion proofing PP units per our phone conversation. My memory is faulty; may be he said alodine? Again thanks for keeping me straight (nicely). It's not advertise on their site, I could find, but there is a coating step in there. G (Love the detailed Mil specs) ---------------------------------


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    Time: 03:13:16 PM PST US
    From: <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Alternator bushes, check them, they all wear
    Starting a new thread from previous >From: "Bob J." >Subject: Re: Seeking good and bad experiences >with Plane Power, B&C alternators > > >Alternatively consider the Denso 100211-1680 alternator, >available brand new from many sources for about $200. Its >rated at 42A and weighs 6lbs. This is the same alternator >that Niagara Airparts used to sell, and it has built-in OV >protection. I have had one for 700+ hours and its been >rock-solid reliable. The most appealing thing about this >alternator is the availability of it as a rebuilt unit at a local >auto parts store. Once I had a friend I was flying with have >an alternator crap out on a trip, and we were able to get >him going again after a short hop to the a auto parts store >after landing at the nearest airport along our route. His >alternator was one of Van's old 35A units. > > >I have a source for these new alternators, email me off-line >if interested.Niagara will still sell the brackets for $75.00. > > >Regards, >Bob Japundza >RV-6 flying F1 under const. Bob, I have a Niagara unit and I concur they are excellent. There is nothing like new OEM ND's. If you can get a new genuine 100211-1680 for $200, that is a good deal. I agree that availability at auto part stores is a cool thing, but I found car/auto part stores don't stock this exact unit. The reason is the main application is a Japanese folklift. There may be an equivalent. However you can get parts and worked on at auto electric repair shops. A fellow RV'er with a Niagara 100211-1680 also got rock solid service with his. He did have an issue at over 800 hours with worn brushes (to be expected). Plane power recommends I think looking at them at 700 hours and I am sure B&C wear out brushes. I recommend everyone regardless of alternator brand check their brushes in the first 300-500 hours and than every 100 hours or so after. They are cheap and easy to replace. It's good preventative maintenance. You might as well just replace them. Interesting NOTE the higher you fly or the dryer climates the faster brushes wear. There's less moisture at altitude and brushes wear faster. However below 8,000 feet there is not much difference. I'm talking about flying +10k ft most of the time. If you fly high / dry than check the brushes more often is my advice. --------------------------------- Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.


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    Time: 08:36:28 PM PST US
    From: Fiveonepw@aol.com
    Subject: Re: GPS/XM antenna interference
    In a message dated 08/17/2007 7:57:25 PM Central Daylight Time, pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net writes: There opinion will probably be couched in CYA rather than sound electronic principles. Each supplier (Garmin, GRT & Trutrak) refreshingly did no such thing and said they could offer no evidence there would be a problem- neat, huh? Thanks again to all who chimed in on this "problem". FWIW, the OSH Forum was "Airplane Wiring for Smart People" by BMAs Greg Richter. He claimed that a plane he had worked on had a serious interference problem from these type antennas(ae?) that was solved by locating them apart (18"? can't recall exactly what distance he cited). Very possibly true, but based on responses here and on other lists, I'd suspect the interference came from some influence not related to the antennas(ae?) themselves... Appreciate the discussion, folks! Mark http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour


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    Time: 08:36:28 PM PST US
    From: "H.Ivan Haecker" <baremetl@gvtc.com>
    Subject: LSE Direct crank vs. Hall effect
    After nearly 1400 hrs.and 4 mag failures (Slick), I am considering an LSE unit to replace the right mag. I realize that the direct crank sensor is less expensive and that the Hall effect sensor that mounts in the old mag position is simpler to install. Ignoring the cost difference and initial installation difference, is there any other reason to pick one over the other? I am looking for comments on reliability of one sensor vs. the other and any other pertinent information. Thanks, Ivan Haecker -4 1381 hrs. S. Cen. TX ps 3 failed coils and 1 failed condensor. And yes I used blast tubes (after the 1st failure!)


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    Time: 09:20:05 PM PST US
    From: "H.Ivan Haecker" <baremetl@gvtc.com>
    Subject: Re: Seeking good and bad experiences with Plane Power, B&C
    alter... Bob, I have one of Van's original (circa 1990) 35A alternators on my -4. Do you know whether a Denso 100211-1680 will fit the mount (boss type) that came with that alternator? If so, could you give me some info about cost for a new alternator that you alluded to below? Thanks, Ivan Haecker -4 1381hrs. S. Cen TX (also with F-1 under very slow construction) -------Original Message ----- From: Bob J. To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 10:29 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Seeking good and bad experiences with Plane Power, B&C alter... Alternatively consider the Denso 100211-1680 alternator, available brand new from many sources for about $200. Its rated at 42A and weighs 6lbs. This is the same alternator that Niagara Airparts used to sell, and it has built-in OV protection. I have had one for 700+ hours and its been rock-solid reliable. The most appealing thing about this alternator is the availability of it as a rebuilt unit at a local auto parts store. Once I had a friend I was flying with have an alternator crap out on a trip, and we were able to get him going again after a short hop to the a auto parts store after landing at the nearest airport along our route. His alternator was one of Van's old 35A units. I have a source for these new alternators, email me off-line if interested. Niagara will still sell the brackets for $75.00. Regards, Bob Japundza RV-6 flying F1 under const.




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