---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 08/20/07: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:47 AM - Re: Upper gear intersection fairing (Dale Ensing) 2. 04:42 AM - Low pass (Inspiration to get it done) (eddyfernan@aol.com) 3. 07:23 AM - Orndorff classes / electronic solenoids (Becki) 4. 10:44 AM - Support discontinued: VM1000, now VM1000C also (Ralph E. Capen) 5. 12:02 PM - Re: Upper gear intersection fairing (Fiveonepw@aol.com) 6. 01:23 PM - Re: Support discontinued: VM1000, now VM1000C also (Richard McBride) 7. 07:44 PM - Re: Support discontinued: VM1000, now VM1000C also (Ralph E. Capen) 8. 10:01 PM - Gear legs rusting in mounts (Doug Medema) 9. 10:24 PM - Re: Gear legs rusting in mounts (Vanremog@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:47:55 AM PST US From: "Dale Ensing" Subject: Re: RV-List: Upper gear intersection fairing My upper gear leg fairing are attached to the fuselage only. Four screws with plate nuts in bottom fuse skin. Probably could do it with three screws. Dale Ensing RV-6A ----- Original Message ----- From: Patrick Kelley To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 1:39 AM Subject: RV-List: Upper gear intersection fairing I'm ahead of myself but I've got the fairings on and am looking at the intersection fairings. The RVator had a great article on attaching the lower, leg to pant fairing and I'll be using that method there. However, I don't see anything on the leg to fuselage fairing in the plans and I was wondering how people dealt with this. With all the structure (especially the wing spar) at the leg/fuselage/wing joint, I'm not sure I'll be able to easily get nutplates in place to attach it to the fuselage and wing bottom. Yet, I'm not sure if I should make it part of the leg fairing. Ideas would be appreciated here. Patrick Kelley - RV-6A - waiting on panel; installing antennae. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:42:50 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Low pass (Inspiration to get it done) From: eddyfernan@aol.com Hey everybody?just a little inspiration to keep bucking those rivets.? Your going to love flying your RV. Check it out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmDwXdPFlfM Eddy Fernandez South Florida RV9A "Kermit" 162 hrs TT ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:23:26 AM PST US From: "Becki" Subject: RV-List: Orndorff classes / electronic solenoids Good morning all! Hope you are enjoying this bright shiny day! We wanted to let everyone know that we are settled in our new home and back in business. Thanks to all for their patience while we made this move. We have scheduled sheet metal working classes this fall for October 13-14, November 10-11, December 8-9. We also have a limited number of electronic solenoids for engine fuel primer systems. They are $15 while supplies last. Please email or give us a call if we can help you with these or any other items or services that we offer. Thanks! Becki Orndorff GeoBeck, Inc. 704-707-4845 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:44:22 AM PST US From: "Ralph E. Capen" Subject: RV-List: Support discontinued: VM1000, now VM1000C also I had heard that they were discontinuing support on the original VM1000 in favor of the VM1000C - now they're gonna ditch that one too in favor of the VMS1000C - with JPI grounded sensors. The VM1000C has a different footprint - so I couldn't swap it out - and since they've been bought by JPI (bad memories last long), I'm not interested in them anymore. Since I needed to rearrange my panel to stay with a supported product, I bought an AFS3400EM - which fit in the space that I had. So far, I'm very happy with it! This means that I have a bunch of VM1000 parts that were installed but never flown: Oil pressure sender (with Hirschmann connector) Oil temp sender Injection fuel pressure sender (with Hirschmann connector) Fuel Flow sensor Tach sensor for Slick Mag EGT thermocouples CHT thermocouples Amp sensor Manifold pressure sensor (PC Board portion and filter fitting) Display Brain box I would prefer that these parts go to folks that are trying to keep a vintage VM1000 alive instead of pushing the lot to someone - and make them deal with JPI. Contact me direct. Ralph ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:02:28 PM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Upper gear intersection fairing I used 3 on the fuse skin- 1 fwd of spar & 2 aft, plus one on the wingroot fairing. Velcro, anyone? 8-) Mark Phillips - RV-6A _http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/_ (http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/) http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:23:17 PM PST US From: "Richard McBride" Subject: RE: RV-List: Support discontinued: VM1000, now VM1000C also Ralph, I have a VM1000 and although very happy with the product, I'm also concerned about future support. I spoke to their representative at Oshkosh and was told that they won't be doing any more upgrades to the VM1000 but will continue to provide support. I'm not sure if this is accurate especially since they are transistioning to JPI sensors. I curious what information you received. Rick McBride RV-8 >From: "Ralph E. Capen" >To: rv-list >Subject: RV-List: Support discontinued: VM1000, now VM1000C also >Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:43:08 -0400 (EDT) > > > >I had heard that they were discontinuing support on the original VM1000 in >favor of the VM1000C - now they're gonna ditch that one too in favor of the >VMS1000C - with JPI grounded sensors. The VM1000C has a different >footprint - so I couldn't swap it out - and since they've been bought by >JPI (bad memories last long), I'm not interested in them anymore. > >Since I needed to rearrange my panel to stay with a supported product, I >bought an AFS3400EM - which fit in the space that I had. So far, I'm very >happy with it! > >This means that I have a bunch of VM1000 parts that were installed but >never flown: > >Oil pressure sender (with Hirschmann connector) >Oil temp sender >Injection fuel pressure sender (with Hirschmann connector) >Fuel Flow sensor >Tach sensor for Slick Mag >EGT thermocouples >CHT thermocouples >Amp sensor >Manifold pressure sensor (PC Board portion and filter fitting) >Display >Brain box > >I would prefer that these parts go to folks that are trying to keep a >vintage VM1000 alive instead of pushing the lot to someone - and make them >deal with JPI. > >Contact me direct. >Ralph > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:44:30 PM PST US From: "Ralph E. Capen" Subject: Re: RV-List: Support discontinued: VM1000, now VM1000C also Rick, My issues started right about the same time VMS was silently being acquired by JPI. I was considering upgrading to a VM1000C as I wanted color and a couple of new features...never got a direct response from them. Then the backlighting on my VM1000 started going fritzy (work OK, then quit, etc). They announced they were being bought - still no response. Repeated e-mail requests and phone calls provided no response. Then they announced no more support for the VM1000 - with no upgrade for me...I had found out that the new system had a different footprint that would require a complete panel rework. Now with them discontinuing support for their VM1000C in favor of the VMS1000C with grounded JPI sensors - kinda brings back the memories of how JPI really is.....I haven't had my first flight yet and they've gone back on the original warranty that I got when I bought it. Vision Microsystems was a pretty good company with pretty good stuff - I've found something better, they've found something worse. I didn't really get any info from them directly, it was the lack of response that turned me off - even after the transition to JPI had completed. Now I have color - sunlight readable, data capture and storage, more features, and it fits in the remaining space in my panel. Good luck with your unit - I have plenty of spare parts.... Ralph ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard McBride" Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 4:22 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Support discontinued: VM1000, now VM1000C also > > Ralph, > > I have a VM1000 and although very happy with the product, I'm also > concerned about future support. I spoke to their representative at > Oshkosh and was told that they won't be doing any more upgrades to the > VM1000 but will continue to provide support. I'm not sure if this is > accurate especially since they are transistioning to JPI sensors. I > curious what information you received. > > Rick McBride > RV-8 > > >>From: "Ralph E. Capen" >>To: rv-list >>Subject: RV-List: Support discontinued: VM1000, now VM1000C also >>Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:43:08 -0400 (EDT) >> >> >> >>I had heard that they were discontinuing support on the original VM1000 in >>favor of the VM1000C - now they're gonna ditch that one too in favor of >>the VMS1000C - with JPI grounded sensors. The VM1000C has a different >>footprint - so I couldn't swap it out - and since they've been bought by >>JPI (bad memories last long), I'm not interested in them anymore. >> >>Since I needed to rearrange my panel to stay with a supported product, I >>bought an AFS3400EM - which fit in the space that I had. So far, I'm very >>happy with it! >> >>This means that I have a bunch of VM1000 parts that were installed but >>never flown: >> >>Oil pressure sender (with Hirschmann connector) >>Oil temp sender >>Injection fuel pressure sender (with Hirschmann connector) >>Fuel Flow sensor >>Tach sensor for Slick Mag >>EGT thermocouples >>CHT thermocouples >>Amp sensor >>Manifold pressure sensor (PC Board portion and filter fitting) >>Display >>Brain box >> >>I would prefer that these parts go to folks that are trying to keep a >>vintage VM1000 alive instead of pushing the lot to someone - and make them >>deal with JPI. >> >>Contact me direct. >>Ralph >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:01:03 PM PST US From: "Doug Medema" Subject: RV-List: Gear legs rusting in mounts I recently removed my gear legs and found them to be corroded at the points they go into the mounts, especially the lower collar. I have since stripped, sanded, acid etched, conversion coated, primed, and painted the legs and am ready to reinstall them. Since you can't paint over the places with close tolerances, they will just rust again unless I do something to protect them. I was thinking of just putting a good layer of grease on them, but am wondering if anybody else has a better idea. Again, this is just on the two areas that make contact with the gear mounts. All the rest of it is protected. Thanks, Doug Medema RV-6A N276DM down for painting after 170 hours. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:24:21 PM PST US From: Vanremog@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Gear legs rusting in mounts In a message dated 8/20/2007 10:02:49 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, doug.medema@comcast.net writes: I recently removed my gear legs and found them to be corroded at the points they go into the mounts, especially the lower collar. I have since stripped, sanded, acid etched, conversion coated, primed, and painted the legs and am ready to reinstall them. Since you can't paint over the places with close tolerances, they will just rust again unless I do something to protect them. I was thinking of just putting a good layer of grease on them, but am wondering if anybody else has a better idea. Again, this is just on the two areas that make contact with the gear mounts. All the rest of it is protected. =========================================================== I used one of the corrosion resisting sprays applied just as I installed them in late '97. I've forgotten which LPS product I used and I haven't removed the mains since installed, but I did retrofit my nose gear a few years back and the old one came out easy and looked fine for its age. GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 864hrs, Silicon Valley, CA) http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.