RV-List Digest Archive

Wed 09/05/07


Total Messages Posted: 10



Today's Message Index:
----------------------
 
     1. 03:27 AM - Re: Re: I know this is a mistake, but..... (Kevin Horton)
     2. 04:28 AM - Coolie Hat Switch (Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR)
     3. 04:28 AM - Re: Annual Conditional Inspection (Bob)
     4. 09:16 AM - WTB: Garmin 396 (Bob Gross)
     5. 01:26 PM - RV-9A Builder (Ken Arnold)
     6. 03:03 PM - Test msg (Ken Arnold)
     7. 03:22 PM - Re: Test msg (Tim Bryan)
     8. 05:37 PM - Re: Re: Annual Conditional Inspection (David Dalton)
     9. 07:30 PM - Re: Re: Annual Conditional Inspection (Bob Collins)
    10. 08:04 PM - Re: Re: Annual Conditional Inspection (David Dalton)
 
 
 


Message 1


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 03:27:33 AM PST US
    From: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
    Subject: Re: I know this is a mistake, but.....
    Essentially a web forum is a web site where people can post and read messages. In this respect it is very much like an e-mail list. But you get to look at pretty colours, probably including lots of advertisements, and people seem to like that. One big difference from an e-mail list is that the forum moderators can delete postings that are deemed to be offensive - this can be an advantage when flame wars start up. The best RV-related example are the Van's Airforce Forums: http://www.vansairforce.com/community/index.php Kevin On 4 Sep 2007, at 23:15, Sherman Butler wrote: > Kevin, Please define web fourm. Examples? > BTW I enjoy your web site. > > Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com> wrote: > Then web forums became more popular as more and more > people got high speed internet access. People seem to like the > various features that a good web forum offers, so we lost another big > bunch of people. > > > Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit) > Ottawa, Canada > http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8 > do not archive > > > Sherman Butler > RV-7a Wings > Idaho Falls


    Message 2


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 04:28:16 AM PST US
    Subject: Coolie Hat Switch
    From: "Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR" <Fred.Stucklen@UTCPower.com>
    Does anyone know where I can purchase the Coolie Hat switch used for aileron & Elevator trim? I'm also looking for the relay deck required to interface it with the trim servos. Fred Stucklen RV-6A RV-7A Hi Carl, I have them in my 6A. They have worked well so far, I like the feel, and were fairly easy to wire. They have them set up for pilot and passenger sticks, make sure you get the correct one. I have one of each. I have it set up :- trigger - ppt; front - flip flop ( you need to watch this one, have changed channel without realizing it) - coolie hat Elev & Ail trim and Top two - auto pilot engage & disengage. Regards, Dave Burnham


    Message 3


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 04:28:17 AM PST US
    From: Bob <panamared5@brier.net>
    Subject: RE: Annual Conditional Inspection
    To get the subject back on RVs, I just finished my 5th Conditional Inspection. I thought I would comment on a few areas. I started the inspection before I swept out the hanger, big mistake. My hanger has a tendency to collect dirt, paint chips from the rafters, grass clippings etc. Trust me, it is much easier to do the inspection with a clean hanger floor. To clean off the oil on the bottom of the fuselage, I tried using the aviation approved Simple Green. It does work, not as well as aviation fuel. I keep all the fuel that I sump in a container and use it for a cleaning fluid. I know, it is not a safe substance, but it sure does work well. Spark plugs are black with lots of soot. I am using the hotter plugs, does not seem to make a difference. No lead fouling. I do use TCP with the AV Gas and Marvel Mystery oil with auto fuel. I found the inspection of the baggage compartment and the rear fuselage so much simpler when I removed the canopy from the fuselage. I have an RV6 slider version. Before, I used to climb in under the canopy and what a pain. It took about 5 minutes to take the canopy off, 3 of those minutes searching for the right tools. Taking the canopy off makes it much easier to clean the inside! When building I spent a tremendous amount of time getting the canopy to slide freely. Now when I open it a crack, gravity will do the rest to open it. In hind sight, this extra time was really worth it. I am still finding slivers of proseal in my fuel filter from two years ago, when I complied with Vans SB requiring all tanks to be taken apart and the B-Nut to be safetied. A five minute job during construction, or a 20 hour job after the plane is flying! When I built the tanks, I followed Vans instructions exactly, and that is why the tanks were built wrong! Sometimes you need to use your own judgement and common sense. The FAB airbox for the O-360. During every inspection I have had to fix and repair this part. I have replaced the hinge for the alternate air door, I have replaced the alternate air cable, I have replaced the alternate air door actuator horn and the piece of aluminum that mates the airbox to the fuel servo (carb). Next year I will be fixing something on this assembly, just don't know what. I may just do away with the alternate air door completely. I have a wooden prop with a prop spacer. I took the prop off and the spacer. When I went to put it back on, the prop bolts would not go through the spacer (even without the prop)!? But they had just come out! I had to get a 1/2" reamer to open up the holes to get the bolts to go through. A real mystery. Brown Tool Company was the only place I found that sold this tool. I got it all together and went for a test flight. All OK. Except for the second hammerhead maneuver. I got too slow on the upline, added rudder too late and nothing happened. I closed the throttle added down elevator and waited. And the airplane completed the most terrific tail swap I have ever experienced. I have only done one other tailslide and this must have been a good one, just that I was not expecting it, I was expecting an inverted spin. Note: I do not do tailslides on purpose and do not recommend them in an RV. When you do a blow a hammerhead one of the resulting maneuvers maybe a tailslide and another might be an an inverted spin. One experienced aerobatic pilot in RVs told me that the tailslide is very hard to do correctly and I should not worry about an RV tailslide because I would fall off one side or the other. So much for that theory!! I am sorry that I did not comment on any politics or other such social concerns. But, I have included many ideas or comments that may cause violent disagreements, if that is so, so be it, but that is how I did it. Bob RV6 "Wicked Witch of the West"


    Message 4


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 09:16:38 AM PST US
    Subject: WTB: Garmin 396
    From: "Bob Gross" <rpgross@bellsouth.net>
    Any one have a 396 they are thinking of upgrading to a 496? Please PM me if so. Bob -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/


    Message 5


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 01:26:40 PM PST US
    From: "Ken Arnold" <arno7452@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: RV-9A Builder
    Trying to contact Mr Jay Kurtz of near Lakeland, FL. Contact me off list please. Have question re: Jabrui 3300 installed in RV-9A. Many thanks, Ken Arnold Pikeville, NC do not archive


    Message 6


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 03:03:30 PM PST US
    From: "Ken Arnold" <arno7452@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Test msg
    Test msg to ensure I am getting RV e-mail do not archive


    Message 7


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 03:22:10 PM PST US
    From: "Tim Bryan" <n616tb@btsapps.com>
    Subject: Test msg
    Well, are you? :-) Do Not Archive Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Arnold > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 4:58 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: Test msg > > > Test msg to ensure I am getting RV e-mail > > do not archive > > >


    Message 8


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 05:37:20 PM PST US
    From: "David Dalton" <ddalton536@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: RE: Annual Conditional Inspection
    Bob, I am just starting on my fuel tanks, what changes would you make to Vans instructions for the tanks? Thanks for the advice, David On 9/4/07, Bob <panamared5@brier.net> wrote: > > > To get the subject back on RVs, I just finished my 5th Conditional > Inspection. I thought I would comment on a few areas. > > I started the inspection before I swept out the hanger, big > mistake. My hanger has a tendency to collect dirt, paint chips from > the rafters, grass clippings etc. Trust me, it is much easier to do > the inspection with a clean hanger floor. > > To clean off the oil on the bottom of the fuselage, I tried using the > aviation approved Simple Green. It does work, not as well as > aviation fuel. I keep all the fuel that I sump in a container and > use it for a cleaning fluid. I know, it is not a safe substance, but > it sure does work well. > > Spark plugs are black with lots of soot. I am using the hotter > plugs, does not seem to make a difference. No lead fouling. I do > use TCP with the AV Gas and Marvel Mystery oil with auto fuel. > > I found the inspection of the baggage compartment and the rear > fuselage so much simpler when I removed the canopy from the > fuselage. I have an RV6 slider version. Before, I used to climb in > under the canopy and what a pain. It took about 5 minutes to take > the canopy off, 3 of those minutes searching for the right > tools. Taking the canopy off makes it much easier to clean the inside! > > When building I spent a tremendous amount of time getting the canopy > to slide freely. Now when I open it a crack, gravity will do the > rest to open it. In hind sight, this extra time was really worth it. > > I am still finding slivers of proseal in my fuel filter from two > years ago, when I complied with Vans SB requiring all tanks to be > taken apart and the B-Nut to be safetied. A five minute job during > construction, or a 20 hour job after the plane is flying! When I > built the tanks, I followed Vans instructions exactly, and that is > why the tanks were built wrong! Sometimes you need to use your own > judgement and common sense. > > The FAB airbox for the O-360. During every inspection I have had to > fix and repair this part. I have replaced the hinge for the > alternate air door, I have replaced the alternate air cable, I have > replaced the alternate air door actuator horn and the piece of > aluminum that mates the airbox to the fuel servo (carb). Next year I > will be fixing something on this assembly, just don't know what. I > may just do away with the alternate air door completely. > > I have a wooden prop with a prop spacer. I took the prop off and the > spacer. When I went to put it back on, the prop bolts would not go > through the spacer (even without the prop)!? But they had just come > out! I had to get a 1/2" reamer to open up the holes to get the > bolts to go through. A real mystery. Brown Tool Company was the > only place I found that sold this tool. > > I got it all together and went for a test flight. All OK. Except > for the second hammerhead maneuver. I got too slow on the upline, > added rudder too late and nothing happened. I closed the throttle > added down elevator and waited. And the airplane completed the most > terrific tail swap I have ever experienced. I have only done one > other tailslide and this must have been a good one, just that I was > not expecting it, I was expecting an inverted spin. > > Note: I do not do tailslides on purpose and do not recommend them in > an RV. When you do a blow a hammerhead one of the resulting > maneuvers maybe a tailslide and another might be an an inverted > spin. One experienced aerobatic pilot in RVs told me that the > tailslide is very hard to do correctly and I should not worry about > an RV tailslide because I would fall off one side or the other. So > much for that theory!! > > I am sorry that I did not comment on any politics or other such > social concerns. But, I have included many ideas or comments that > may cause violent disagreements, if that is so, so be it, but that is > how I did it. > > Bob > RV6 "Wicked Witch of the West" > >


    Message 9


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 07:30:16 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net>
    Subject: RE: Annual Conditional Inspection
    I think he's referring to making sure your pickup tube is secure. Folks that didn't (it wasn't in the instructions then, maybe it is now) had to reopen the access panel and pull out the tube and safety-wire the nut that holds it onto the fitting. In the process, the chances increased that small amounts of proseal (from removing the access panel) could contaminate the tank. I ProSealed my b-nut around the fitting; it's not going anywhere. The SB he's talking about is here http://vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb06-2-23.pdf _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Dalton Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 7:33 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: RE: Annual Conditional Inspection Bob, I am just starting on my fuel tanks, what changes would you make to Vans instructions for the tanks? Thanks for the advice, David


    Message 10


  • INDEX
  • Back to Main INDEX
  • PREVIOUS
  • Skip to PREVIOUS Message
  • NEXT
  • Skip to NEXT Message
  • LIST
  • Reply to LIST Regarding this Message
  • SENDER
  • Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message
    Time: 08:04:59 PM PST US
    From: "David Dalton" <ddalton536@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: RE: Annual Conditional Inspection
    I have that SB, thanks DD On 9/5/07, Bob Collins <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net> wrote: > > I think he's referring to making sure your pickup tube is secure. Folks > that didn't (it wasn't in the instructions then, maybe it is now) had to > reopen the access panel and pull out the tube and safety-wire the nut that > holds it onto the fitting. In the process, the chances increased that small > amounts of proseal (from removing the access panel) could contaminate the > tank. > > I ProSealed my b-nut around the fitting; it's not going anywhere. > > The SB he's talking about is here > > http://vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb06-2-23.pdf > > ------------------------------ > *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *David Dalton > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 05, 2007 7:33 PM > *To:* rv-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: RV-List: RE: Annual Conditional Inspection > > Bob, > > I am just starting on my fuel tanks, what changes would you make to Vans > instructions for the tanks? > > Thanks for the advice, > > David > > > > > > > * > > > * > >




    Other Matronics Email List Services

  • Post A New Message
  •   rv-list@matronics.com
  • UN/SUBSCRIBE
  •   http://www.matronics.com/subscription
  • List FAQ
  •   http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm
  • Web Forum Interface To Lists
  •   http://forums.matronics.com
  • Matronics List Wiki
  •   http://wiki.matronics.com
  • 7-Day List Browse
  •   http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv-list
  • Browse RV-List Digests
  •   http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv-list
  • Browse Other Lists
  •   http://www.matronics.com/browse
  • Live Online Chat!
  •   http://www.matronics.com/chat
  • Archive Downloading
  •   http://www.matronics.com/archives
  • Photo Share
  •   http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
  • Other Email Lists
  •   http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
  • Contributions
  •   http://www.matronics.com/contribution

    These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.

    -- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --