---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 09/07/07: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:57 PM - Re: CH Stick grips (Tom Pritchard) 2. 02:11 PM - Re: Re: CH Stick grips (carlos) 3. 03:18 PM - Re: Re: CH Stick grips (Bob) 4. 04:53 PM - Re: CH Stick grips (ChickenHawk) 5. 06:37 PM - Re: Heated pitot retrofit (Fiveonepw@aol.com) 6. 07:28 PM - Re: Re: CH Stick grips (Ron Lee) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:57:07 PM PST US From: Tom Pritchard Subject: RV-List: Re: CH Stick grips I'm a total newbie to the list but hope to build a 9A in a couple years. Regarding the control stick - would it be feasible to machine the stick in such a way as it can be telescoped out (and locked) for take off and landin g but collapsed during regular flight? Tom _________________________________________________________________ More photos; more messages; more whatever ' Get MORE with Windows Live=99 Hotmail=AE. NOW with 5GB storage. ration_HM_mini_5G_0907 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:11:49 PM PST US From: carlos Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: CH Stick grips Just curious why you'd want to do this? Carlos Do not archive Tom Pritchard wrote: > I'm a total newbie to the list but hope to build a 9A in a couple years. > Regarding the control stick - would it be feasible to machine the > stick in such a way as it can be telescoped out (and locked) for take > off and landing but collapsed during regular flight? > > Tom > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > More photos; more messages; more whatever Get MORE with Windows > Live Hotmail. NOW with 5GB storage. Get more! > > * > > > * > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- Carlos Hernandez Structural Engineers, LLC 2963 W. Elliot Rd. - Suite 3 Chandler, AZ 85224 Phone: 480.968.8600 Fax: 480.968.8608 www.sec-engr.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information in this email may be confidential and/or privileged. This email is intended to be reviewed by only the individual or organization named above. If you are not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copyingof this email and its attachments, if any, or the information contained herein is prohibited. If you havereceived this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:18:33 PM PST US From: Bob Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: CH Stick grips Everyone is different, and in that respect, I find any type of stick grip unusable, even when I am using a flight simulator on the computer. I find that I can not get fine precise movement when I put my entire hand on the stick grip. Same with the airplane. I learned how to fly a sensitive aircraft from an F-4 pilot when he told me that in cruise he rested his forearm on his thigh and used the tip of this index finger and thumb to fly the aircraft. I find that works well with my RV. But for aerobatics, I have my full fist on the top of the stick. And sometimes I use both hands on the stick, not because of the stick forces, but for more precise control when doing large control deflections. Some people may be making more out of this stick grip thing than is necessary. I know before I flew my airplane I wanted to install them, but after flying for a few years, I can not imagine how I could possible use them. I do use both my left and right hand to fly the aircraft and as I recall the stick grips are mostly right or left handed. Bob RV6 "Wicked Witch of the West" At 02:54 PM 9/7/07, you wrote: >I'm a total newbie to the list but hope to build a 9A in a couple years. >Regarding the control stick - would it be feasible to machine the >stick in such a way as it can be telescoped out (and locked) for >take off and landing but collapsed during regular flight? > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:53:53 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: Re: CH Stick grips From: "ChickenHawk" carlosh(at)sec-engr.com wrote: > Just curious why you'd want to do this? > > Carlos > Do not archive > Carlos, > Just showing my ignorance. I have never flown an RV. I have flown a Diamond Katana which has a very light touch on the stick. I noticed a message earlier that recommended that one keep ones hands high on the stick during take offs and landings. My assumption (always a big risk) is that this is improve leverage and refine the movements on the stick. I too prefer to set my hands low on the stick with arm resting on my leg. My thought was that a telescoping stick might provide both requirements, although I admit it makes the system more complicated. > > Since I haven't flown an RV and my RV of choice will probably be the 9A, this may be totally unnecessary. > > Tom > > * > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > -- Carlos Hernandez Structural Engineers, LLC 2963 W. Elliot Rd. - Suite 3 Chandler, AZ 85224 Phone: 480.968.8600 Fax: 480.968.8608 www.sec-engr.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information in this email may be confidential and/or privileged. This email is intended to be reviewed by only the individual or organization named above. If you are not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copyingof this email and its attachments, if any, or the information contained herein is prohibited. If you havereceived this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system.[/quote] Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=133322#133322 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:37:08 PM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Heated pitot retrofit In a message dated 9/6/2007 10:50:52 PM Central Daylight Time, kahamer@bigpond.net.au writes: Anyone done this before? >>> I recently installed a Gretz tube in the outboard (aileron bellcrank) cover. I duplicated the cover in .040 2024 and made a doubler a bit larger than the base of the tube with an extension on it on which I mounted the circuit board. Makes for easy connection & inspection. You will have to take care when attaching tiedowns, but I believe the benefits outweigh this. I also discussed this with Warren Gretz and he saw no downside. Photo available if interested... >From The PossumWorks in TN Mark Phillips _http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/_ (http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/) ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:28:41 PM PST US From: "Ron Lee" Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: CH Stick grips >> Just showing my ignorance. I have never flown an RV. I have flown a >> Diamond Katana which has a very light touch on the stick. I noticed a >> message earlier that recommended that one keep ones hands high on the >> stick during take offs and landings. My assumption (always a big risk) is >> that this is improve leverage and refine the movements on the stick. I >> too prefer to set my hands low on the stick with arm resting on my leg. >> My thought was that a telescoping stick might provide both requirements, >> although I admit it makes the system more complicated. I fly with my hand resting on my thigh and my fingers below the top of the stick. I have no need to hold my hand higher and my landings are usually good. I would fly an RV then forget about this idea. 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