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1. 01:01 AM - Re: Spins in RV6aSpins in RV6a (Paul Besing)
2. 05:05 AM - Re: Heated pitot retrofit (Rick Galati)
3. 07:25 AM - Re: Aircraft zoning issue (Brian Kraut)
4. 10:11 AM - Bill? You okay? (Rob Prior)
5. 03:41 PM - Re: Bill? You okay? (Ed Anderson)
6. 03:53 PM - Re: Bill? You okay? (Scott)
7. 04:54 PM - Re: Bill? You okay? (Larry Pardue)
8. 05:03 PM - Re: Bill? You okay? (Scott)
9. 05:57 PM - Re: Bill? You okay? (Bill Dube)
10. 06:20 PM - Re: Bill? You okay? (evmeg@snowcrest.net)
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Subject: | Re: Spins in RV6aSpins in RV6a |
When was this, Charles? The commercial doesn't require spins..only flight instructor
applicants are required to do spin training.
I used to be afraid of them, and then started to accept them and work with them.
I then demo'd them to my private pilot students (if they were comfortable
with them) to give them an idea of how important coordinated flight is, especially
when demonstrating power on maneuvers.
Charles Heathco <cheathco@cox.net> wrote:
I was required to do 3 turn spins in Cherokee when qulifying for coml.
I hated em, took my instructor (vietnam l-19 driver)up for aditional help, he
damn near tore the wings off, skin was rippling and airspeed way past red line.
I would never intenionally try to spin my 6a, (chicken Charlie)
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Subject: | RE: Heated pitot retrofit |
Dimpling after an assembly is built is easy and you don't have to compromise on
the quality of the dimple by using screws or pop rivet dimple sets etc. If you
have the means to drill holes through a bucking bar, you can fit regular dimple
dies to a spare rivet set and bucking bar by drilling holes into them and
then use the dimple dies with your rivet gun. Fitted with a male dimple die,
you can use the female receptacle fitted to many C frame dimplers. It is sized
to fit a standard rivet gun. Or you can buy the special tools needed at ATS
which are essentially as I just outlined.
http://tinyurl.com/yvvr5v
Rick Galati RV-6A "Darla!"
RV-8 FWF
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Subject: | Aircraft zoning issue |
It really does have an effect for several reasons. One of the things that
we have been telling them is that the law is making Jacksonville look bad in
the eyes of people all over the world. Most of them do not answer the
emails, but some of them are answered and it is obvious by the responses we
have seen that they are getting the message. We got a pretty good response
from one council member about knowing of the national attention they have
gotten, but being surprised that it has no gone worldwide after he got an
email from New Zeland.
It also shows them that we have a lot of support and are not going to back
down until they repeal the law.
The emails also get put in the legislative folder for the ordinance and the
number of emails supporting or going against the law goes on the summary
that they all see.
For an update and some good news see
http://www.eaa.org/communications/eaanews/070913_jacksonville.html
The Planning Commission makes a recommendation to the Land Use and Zoning
board and they vote Tuesday. Their vote becomes a recommendation to the
full City Council who votes the following Tuesday so we need emails flowing
now. If you already sent one send another. Send it to all of the council
members and also copy dfarris@coj.net. She is the head of Legislative
Services and is the one that makes sure that copies of the emails get in the
legislative folder.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard E.
Tasker
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Aircraft zoning issue
Does our emailing the City Council really have any effect? Most
politicians are very careful to only pay attention to their constituents
(if they even pay any attention to them). Normally, people from outside
their districts are of no consequence to them.
If any of them do pay attention, which ones should we email to? There
are 19 members listed at the web site.
Dick Tasker
Brian Kraut wrote:
>
>Many of you have helped us in the past to try and defeat the ordinance that
>was passed in Jacksonville about a year ago that basically makes it illegal
>to work on any aircraft, experimental or otherwise, in the privacy of your
>home in Jacksonville or to store one on residentialy zoned property unless
>it is in a completely enclosed building.
>
>After fighting this for a long time we have finally gotten a council member
>to sponsor a repeal of the law. We need your support one more time to email
>or mail all of the council members to support ordinance 2007-0955 which is
>the repeal of zoning code section 656.420.
>
>In their legislative summary it shows how many people have expressed an
>opinion on the bill and we want thousands of emails and letters of support.
>Something as simple as stating that you support bill 2007-0955 will
suffice,
>but you are free to give all of your opinions. Pass this on to anyone else
>that you think could lend us some support. You can find the email addresses
>of the City Council members here:
>
>http://www.coj.net/City+Council/City+Council+members.htm
>
>The latest news from the EAA is here:
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>http://www.eaa.org/communications/eaanews/070830_jacksonville.html
>
>The proposed repeal of the ordinance is here:
>
>http://citycirc.coj.net/coj/COJBillList.asp?Bill 07-0955
>
>The City Council mailing address is:
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>Jacksonville City Council
>117 West Duval St., Suite 425
>Jacksonville, FL 32202
>
>And our terribly unupdated web site is www.jaxairplane.com
>
>Brian Kraut
>www.jaxairplane.com
>
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Bill Dube is one of our RV-Listers. Hope you're okay, Bill!
<http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/33853/113>
Maybe you should stick to flying... :)
-Rob
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Subject: | Re: Bill? You okay? |
Bill's OK. Apparently a couple of stitches, but he is up and commenting
on the accident. This is off one of the news outlets
wasn't wearing a helmet, because we did not intend the bike to even
move!
We were spinning the tire in soapy water. The tire unexpectantly
gripped, (water ran out?) and launched the bike. I couldn't get it shut
down as quickly as I would have liked. I had to release the front brake
to fully untwist the throttle. I then managed to slow it down to about
20 mph.
The positive message here is that when we crunched the battery pack,
NOTHING happened. No smoke. No flames. Not even sparks. Not only are
these cells more powerful, they are the safest possible for automobiles.
Also, there was NO ONE in front of the bike or in the possible
trajectory of the bike.
Bill Dube
So here you are seeing a true entrepreneur - taking what could be a bad
situation and turning into a marketing opportunity for his product.
Bill's a great guy!
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Prior" <rv7@b4.ca>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 1:30 PM
Subject: RV-List: Bill? You okay?
>
> Bill Dube is one of our RV-Listers. Hope you're okay, Bill!
>
> <http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/33853/113>
>
> Maybe you should stick to flying... :)
>
> -Rob
>
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>
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>
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Subject: | Re: Bill? You okay? |
Glad to hear that! That is one awesome bike. How long before something
like that motor/battery combo goes into an airplane (maybe a
self-launched glider)?? Probably a smaller motor, maybe 100-150 HP
would work for a glider. Any idea of the run time on these batteries?
do not archive
Scott
http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/
Gotta Fly or Gonna Die
Building RV-4 (Super Slow Build Version)
Ed Anderson wrote:
> Bill's OK. Apparently a couple of stitches, but he is up and
> commenting on the accident.
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Bill? You okay? |
On Sep 14, 2007, at 4:50 PM, Scott wrote:
>
> Glad to hear that! That is one awesome bike. How long before
> something like that motor/battery combo goes into an airplane
> (maybe a self-launched glider)??
http://www.nadler.com/public/Antares.html
Don't know what kind of batteries this glider uses, but it seems to
work well.
Larry Pardue
Carlsbad, NM
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Subject: | Re: Bill? You okay? |
The website says:
The Antares 20E uses SAFT VL41M Li-Ion cells, which provide very high
energy storage per weight. SAFT VL41M batteries are also used in the
RQ-4B Global Hawk, and will be built into the F35 Joint Strike Fighter
in 2007.
Pretty neat stuff!
do not archive (until these batteries are used in RVs and would
therefore be RV related) ;)
Scott
http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/
Gotta Fly or Gonna Die
Building RV-4 (Super Slow Build Version)
Larry Pardue wrote:
>
> http://www.nadler.com/public/Antares.html
>
> Don't know what kind of batteries this glider uses, but it seems to
> work well.
>
> Larry Pardue
> Carlsbad, NM
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Bill? You okay? |
I'm OK, just a bit embarrassed.
They really pumped up the drama with the edits, commentary, and
pictures that they selected. It was a tense moment or two, but not as
big a deal as was it was touted to be.
What no one seems to notice is that the battery pack suffered some
damage, and likely shorted some cells, but NOTHING happened. This is
a marvelous benefit of the A123 Systems Nano-phosphate cells. Unlike
"laptop" Li-Ion cells, the Nano-phosphate cells are quite safe if you
crush them or short them out. They just sit there and hiss. In
contrast, the common laptop type cells will often shoot flames out of
the end like a road flare when shorted or crushed.
Thank you M.I.T. for inventing Nano-phosphate technology.
Obviously, I have been distracted from working on my RV-7 (and LED
position lights) by the drag bike effort.
The bike is going to get the very latest "Ultra" cells from A123
Systems in December. This will boost the bike from ~400 HP up to 1000
HP with just a bit more weight.
At 04:50 PM 9/14/2007, you wrote:
>
>Glad to hear that! That is one awesome bike. How long before
>something like that motor/battery combo goes into an airplane (maybe
>a self-launched glider)?? Probably a smaller motor, maybe 100-150
>HP would work for a glider. Any idea of the run time on these batteries?
>
>do not archive
>
>Scott
>http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/
>Gotta Fly or Gonna Die
>Building RV-4 (Super Slow Build Version)
>
>
>Ed Anderson wrote:
>
>>Bill's OK. Apparently a couple of stitches, but he is up and
>>commenting on the accident.
>>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Bill? You okay? |
http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=3ee41f10-02b3-4067-aace-fd579501c254
Have a look at the electric Sonex as well.....getting closer! The above is
just a link to an article I found.
Evan
>
> The website says:
>
> The Antares 20E uses SAFT VL41M Li-Ion cells, which provide very high
> energy storage per weight. SAFT VL41M batteries are also used in the
> RQ-4B Global Hawk, and will be built into the F35 Joint Strike Fighter
> in 2007.
>
> Pretty neat stuff!
>
> do not archive (until these batteries are used in RVs and would
> therefore be RV related) ;)
>
> Scott
> http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/
> Gotta Fly or Gonna Die
> Building RV-4 (Super Slow Build Version)
>
>
> Larry Pardue wrote:
>
>>
>> http://www.nadler.com/public/Antares.html
>>
>> Don't know what kind of batteries this glider uses, but it seems to
>> work well.
>>
>> Larry Pardue
>> Carlsbad, NM
>>
>>
>
>
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