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1. 06:01 AM - Re: PC-680 Performance (Darrell Reiley)
2. 06:12 AM - Re: PC-680 Performance (PGLong@aol.com)
3. 07:58 AM - Re: PC-680 Performance (Tom & Cathy Ervin)
4. 10:37 AM - Re: PC-680 Performance (Vanremog@aol.com)
5. 11:12 AM - Re: PC-680 Performance (Walter Tondu)
6. 11:54 AM - Re: PC-680 Performance (lessdragprod@aol.com)
7. 01:09 PM - Re: PC-680 Performance (=?utf-8?B?Qm9iIE5ld21hbg==?=)
8. 01:19 PM - RV7A near Dayton, OH? (Dan Brown)
9. 02:31 PM - Re: RV7A near Dayton, OH? (Dana Overall)
10. 02:36 PM - Re: PC-680 Performance (Darrell Reiley)
11. 02:47 PM - Re: PC-680 Performance (Jeff Point)
12. 03:07 PM - Re: RV7A near Dayton, OH? (Bobby Hester)
13. 05:49 PM - Re: PC-680 Performance (Kyle Boatright)
14. 07:01 PM - Re: PC-680 Performance (Sam Buchanan)
15. 07:56 PM - Re: PC-680 Performance (Ron Lee)
16. 08:02 PM - Re: PC-680 Performance (Darrell Reiley)
17. 09:56 PM - Re: PC-680 Performance (michael@robbins.us.com)
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| Subject: | Re: PC-680 Performance |
Hey Walter,
I could use one of the rejects for testing. ;-)
Darrell
----- Original Message ----
From: Walter Tondu <walter@tondu.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 10:37:40 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: PC-680 Performance
On 10/13 10:07, Kyle Boatright wrote:
> To get to the point, what is the RV-list's collective experience with this
> battery? I know it is light and has good cranking power when new, but I'm
> interested in what sort of longevity people are seeing. Is it lasting 1
> year, 2 years, more, or less? I'd hate to go back to the Concorde, but
> I'd prefer that to a battery that goes soft after less than two years.
Since the battery is relatively cheap, just above $100, I replace it
at every annual. This gives me peace of mind knowing I have a fresh
battery and I now have a decent backup or something to play pass the
electrons with in the shop.
I always connect to a trickle charger after each flight just to keep
it tip-top. I've never had a battery issue now in two years. ymmv.
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| Subject: | Re: PC-680 Performance |
I've had my PC-680 going on 5 years. Did run it flat once with the master
left on. Didn't seem to affect it as it would had it been a lead acid battery.
I
never need to trickle charge it. Left last winter in the hangar without
flying for five months. Put the charger on to see how it was in the spring and
the charger indicated it was at full charge after 5 seconds of charge time. I
personally can't say enough good about Odyssey's products.
Pat Long
PGLong@aol.com
N120PL
RV 4
Bay City, Michigan
3CM
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| Subject: | Re: PC-680 Performance |
The Odyssey battery in my RV6-A is 4 years old and still cranks the
0-360A1A over just like day one! I have the B&C alternator & regulator
which I feel is the key reason the battery is always ready to go.
After shutting down and attaching the BatteryMinder the green light
starts flashing within a minute.......probably not needed. I live in
Ohio and run a Reiff preheater with cylinder bands in the winter.
Tom in Ohio (10G)
----- Original Message -----
From: Kyle Boatright
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 10:07 PM
Subject: RV-List: PC-680 Performance
Over the years, the Odyssey PC-680 has gotten very good reviews for
its small size and high cranking amps. So, about 3 years ago, I
selected one to replace a 4 year old Concorde battery.
My first Odyssey battery became weak after just under 2 years. The
vendor replaced it under warranty.
Today, my ~14 month old replacement battery barely turned the engine
over on a 80 degree day. Sure, the aircraft sat outside in 45 degree
weather last night (Thomasville GA Fly-in - a really fun one), but the
airplane had 8 hours of South Georgia sunshine to warm up, so is isn't
like the battery was chilled or anything.
To get to the point, what is the RV-list's collective experience with
this battery? I know it is light and has good cranking power when new,
but I'm interested in what sort of longevity people are seeing. Is it
lasting 1 year, 2 years, more, or less? I'd hate to go back to the
Concorde, but I'd prefer that to a battery that goes soft after less
than two years.
KB
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| Subject: | Re: PC-680 Performance |
In a message dated 10/13/2007 10:31:27 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
capsteve@adelphia.net writes:
in 2000 i purchased a pc680 for install in my 6a before it was completed. i
used it to test and power up systems during final assembly. first flight in
2001- fast foreword to 2007, still going strong. I've left the master on twice
in its life killing it completely. it seemed to recharge without incident.
==========================================================
I always put the Power Sonic two stage charger on mine when not flying
because I have a "keep alive" circuit in my am/fm radio that uses just a little
power to retain the memory. Mine last for several years each with this
treatment.
N1GV (RV-6A, Flying 869hrs, O-360-A1A, C/S, Silicon Valley)
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| Subject: | Re: PC-680 Performance |
On 10/14 5:53, Darrell Reiley wrote:
> I could use one of the rejects for testing. ;-)
I've donated all of the older ones but have one left that I use as
my tester/backup battery. If you want to wait till next July (scheduled
annual) you can have the next off the firewall.
Have only had two annuals so far and gave both to local builders.
--
Walter Tondu
http://www.rv7-a.com - Painting
http://www.evorocket.com - Empennage
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| Subject: | Re: PC-680 Performance |
Hi Kyle,
I have an Odyssey battery in my RV-6A.? I was told that it needed to be charged
at 14.2 volts.? If it was charged at a lower voltage, it would gradually loose
capacity from being undercharged.
I don't have a source for the 14.2 volts.? I didn't find it on the Odyssey battery
website.? Anyone know where the correct charging voltage is documented?
Regards,
Jim Ayers
-----Original Message-----
From: Kyle Boatright <kboatright1@comcast.net>
Sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 7:07 pm
Subject: RV-List: PC-680 Performance
Over the years, the Odyssey PC-680 has gotten very good reviews for its small size
and high cranking amps.? So, about 3 years ago, I selected one to replace
a 4 year old Concorde battery.
?
My first Odyssey battery became weak after just under 2 years.? The vendor replaced
it under warranty.
?
Today, my ~14 month old replacement battery barely turned the engine over on a
80 degree day. Sure, the aircraft sat outside in 45 degree weather last night
(Thomasville GA Fly-in - a really fun one), but the airplane had 8 hours of South
Georgia sunshine to warm up, so is isn't like the battery was chilled or anything.
?
To get to the point, what is the RV-list's collective experience with this battery??
I know it is light and has good cranking power when new, but I'm interested
in what sort of longevity people are seeing. Is it lasting 1 year, 2 years,
more, or less?? I'd hate to go back to the Concorde, but I'd prefer that to
a battery that goes soft after less than two years.
?
KB
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| Subject: | Re: PC-680 Performance |
I found some excellent information on charging of AGM seal lead acid batteries
on the panasonic web site. If I remeber it takes a little digging on their site,
but its there. I believe the charging voltage depends primarily on chemistry
type. (Ie sla-agm) and temperature.
-bob newman
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-----Original Message-----
From: lessdragprod@aol.com
To:rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV-List: PC-680 Performance
Hi Kyle,
I have an Odyssey battery in my RV-6A. I was told that it needed to be charged
at 14.2 volts. If it was charged at a lower voltage, it would gradually loose
capacity from being undercharged.
I don't have a source for the 14.2 volts. I didn't find it on the Odyssey battery
website. Anyone know where the correct charging voltage is documented?
Regards,
Jim Ayers
-----Original Message-----
From: Kyle Boatright <kboatright1@comcast.net>
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 7:07 pm
Subject: RV-List: PC-680 Performance
Over the years, the Odyssey PC-680 has gotten very good reviews for its small size
and high cranking amps. So, about 3 years ago, I selected one to replace a
4 year old Concorde battery.
My first Odyssey battery became weak after just under 2 years. The vendor replaced
it under warranty.
Today, my ~14 month old replacement battery barely turned the engine over on a
80 degree day. Sure, the aircraft sat outside in 45 degree weather last night
(Thomasville GA Fly-in - a really fun one), but the airplane had 8 hours of South
Georgia sunshine to warm up, so is isn't like the battery was chilled or anything.
To get to the point, what is the RV-list's collective experience with this battery?
I know it is light and has good cranking power when new, but I'm interested
in what sort of longevity people are seeing. Is it lasting 1 year, 2 years,
more, or less? I'd hate to go back to the Concorde, but I'd prefer that to a
battery that goes soft after less than two years.
KB
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| Subject: | RV7A near Dayton, OH? |
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List,
After a number of years of thinking and hoping, I've just taken the
plunge and bought an empennage kit for an RV-7A. Is there anybody on
the list with a flying 7/7A near Dayton? I19 or MGY would be ideal, but
other locations could work as well. It'd be great to see how they fly;
I'd be happy to cover expenses, of course.
Also, if there are any builders in the area who could use a hand, let me
know--the more I can learn on somebody else's airplane, the better! (-:
- --
Dan Brown, KE6MKS, dan@familybrown.org
"Since all the world is but a story, it were well for thee to buy the
more enduring story rather than the story that is less enduring."
-- The Judgment of St. Colum Cille
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| Subject: | RV7A near Dayton, OH? |
Dan, join the Ohio Valley RVators Yahoo group..........large and active gro
up. You will find many in the Dayton/Cincy area.
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
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> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:05:08 -0400
> From: dan@familybrown.org
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: RV7A near Dayton, OH?
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> List,
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> After a number of years of thinking and hoping, I've just taken the
> plunge and bought an empennage kit for an RV-7A. Is there anybody on
> the list with a flying 7/7A near Dayton? I19 or MGY would be ideal, but
> other locations could work as well. It'd be great to see how they fly;
> I'd be happy to cover expenses, of course.
>
> Also, if there are any builders in the area who could use a hand, let me
> know--the more I can learn on somebody else's airplane, the better! (-:
>
> - --
> Dan Brown, KE6MKS, dan@familybrown.org
> "Since all the world is but a story, it were well for thee to buy the
> more enduring story rather than the story that is less enduring."
> -- The Judgment of St. Colum Cille
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| Subject: | Re: PC-680 Performance |
Thanks Walter! I will stick a note on the calendar. They do come in handy on the
work bench for sure.
I guess we'll figure out the details then.
Regards,
Darrell
----- Original Message ----
From: Walter Tondu <walter@tondu.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 1:04:43 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: PC-680 Performance
On 10/14 5:53, Darrell Reiley wrote:
> I could use one of the rejects for testing. ;-)
I've donated all of the older ones but have one left that I use as
my tester/backup battery. If you want to wait till next July (scheduled
annual) you can have the next off the firewall.
Have only had two annuals so far and gave both to local builders.
--
Walter Tondu
http://www.rv7-a.com - Painting
http://www.evorocket.com - Empennage
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| Subject: | Re: PC-680 Performance |
Ditto what others have said about charging voltage. AGMs like a higher
voltage. I don't have the paperwork handy, but I believe it was 14.2 or
14.4. If you regulator is set below 14 (likely scenario) than that
would explain the short life.
Jeff Point
RV-6 flying
RV-8 building
Milwaukee
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| Subject: | Re: RV7A near Dayton, OH? |
You need to join this group. There are alot of RV's around you.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OhioValleyRVators/
Surfing the web with my laptop from Hopkinsville, KY
Visit my RV7A website: http://webpages.charter.net/bobbyhester/MyFlyingRV7A.htm
Dan Brown wrote:
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> List,
>
> After a number of years of thinking and hoping, I've just taken the
> plunge and bought an empennage kit for an RV-7A. Is there anybody on
> the list with a flying 7/7A near Dayton? I19 or MGY would be ideal, but
> other locations could work as well. It'd be great to see how they fly;
> I'd be happy to cover expenses, of course.
>
> Also, if there are any builders in the area who could use a hand, let me
> know--the more I can learn on somebody else's airplane, the better! (-:
>
> - --
> Dan Brown, KE6MKS, dan@familybrown.org
> "Since all the world is but a story, it were well for thee to buy the
> more enduring story rather than the story that is less enduring."
> -- The Judgment of St. Colum Cille
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| Subject: | Re: PC-680 Performance |
The next issue is how does one go about adjusting the Ford voltage regulator
I installed per Electric Bob's suggestion?
KB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Point" <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: PC-680 Performance
>
> Ditto what others have said about charging voltage. AGMs like a higher
> voltage. I don't have the paperwork handy, but I believe it was 14.2 or
> 14.4. If you regulator is set below 14 (likely scenario) than that would
> explain the short life.
>
> Jeff Point
> RV-6 flying
> RV-8 building
> Milwaukee
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| Subject: | Re: PC-680 Performance |
Kyle Boatright wrote:
>
> The next issue is how does one go about adjusting the Ford voltage
> regulator I installed per Electric Bob's suggestion?
Kyle, the Ford regulator is keeping my PC680 charged just fine, voltage
to the battery is ~14.3.
Don't know why your 680 died an early death, but that doesn't seem to be
the norm. As inexpensive as the regulators are, you might just replace
it if the output is too low.
Sam Buchanan
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| Subject: | Re: PC-680 Performance |
Look it over for an adjusting screw.
Then monitor the charging voltage when the engine is running
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kyle Boatright" <kboatright1@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: PC-680 Performance
>
> The next issue is how does one go about adjusting the Ford voltage
> regulator I installed per Electric Bob's suggestion?
>
> KB
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Point" <jpoint@mindspring.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 5:34 PM
> Subject: Re: RV-List: PC-680 Performance
>
>
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>> Ditto what others have said about charging voltage. AGMs like a higher
>> voltage. I don't have the paperwork handy, but I believe it was 14.2 or
>> 14.4. If you regulator is set below 14 (likely scenario) than that would
>> explain the short life.
>>
>> Jeff Point
>> RV-6 flying
>> RV-8 building
>> Milwaukee
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| Subject: | Re: PC-680 Performance |
That depends on which Ford regulator you installed. The older tall units have an
adjustment screw under the cap. Most of the short cap units are pre-set, not
to be adjusted. If it's adjustable, a run up and volt meter will give you the
charge output. You adjust the screw in for more output.
Darrell
----- Original Message ----
From: Kyle Boatright <kboatright1@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 7:33:11 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: PC-680 Performance
The next issue is how does one go about adjusting the Ford voltage regulator
I installed per Electric Bob's suggestion?
KB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Point" <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: PC-680 Performance
>
> Ditto what others have said about charging voltage. AGMs like a higher
> voltage. I don't have the paperwork handy, but I believe it was 14.2 or
> 14.4. If you regulator is set below 14 (likely scenario) than that would
> explain the short life.
>
> Jeff Point
> RV-6 flying
> RV-8 building
> Milwaukee
>
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| Subject: | Re: PC-680 Performance |
> Over the years, the Odyssey PC-680 has gotten very good reviews...
I had a PC-625 in my 180 hp IO-360 RV-8 for five years and it was
still going strong when I replaced it last month.- I never used a
trickle charger.- Maybe they have a QC issue.
Mike Robbins
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