---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 10/22/07: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:12 AM - Re: countersink, dimple and nutplates (Tim Bryan) 2. 09:58 AM - Gear Legs (Greg Williams) 3. 10:30 AM - Re: Gear Legs (Tim Bryan) 4. 11:35 AM - Re: Gear Legs (Dave Cudney) 5. 11:46 AM - Re: Gear Legs (Tim Bryan) 6. 12:14 PM - Gear Legs wheel replacement (James H Nelson) 7. 12:24 PM - Re: Gear Legs tire changing (Michael W Stewart) 8. 12:30 PM - Re: Gear Legs (Darrell Reiley) 9. 12:37 PM - Re: Gear Legs tire changing (Tim Bryan) 10. 12:38 PM - Re: Gear Legs wheel replacement (Tim Bryan) 11. 01:23 PM - Re: Gear Legs wheel replacement (John D. Heath) 12. 01:53 PM - Re: Gear Legs wheel replacement (mike humphrey) 13. 02:29 PM - Re: Gear Legs (Dave Cudney) 14. 03:00 PM - Re: Gear Legs (Greg Williams) 15. 03:08 PM - Re: Gear Legs (Tim Bryan) 16. 04:04 PM - Re: Gear Legs (Doug Gray) 17. 07:33 PM - RV8 Wheel Axles (BRUCE GRAY) 18. 08:49 PM - Water/Moisture in Static System (Larry Mersek) 19. 09:57 PM - Re: Water/Moisture in Static System (Dale Walter) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:12:46 AM PST US From: "Tim Bryan" Subject: RE: RV-List: countersink, dimple and nutplates Another idea Carlos would be to see if there is an RV builder in your area. Since your plane doesn't use much of this buying the tools seems rather un-necessary. You might be able to find an RV builder near by who would be willing to help with this small piece and has the tools needed. I see you are in Montreal, Canada. Anyone near there? Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mike humphrey > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 12:40 AM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: countersink, dimple and nutplates > > > > Carlos, > For #6, #8 flush head screws you need the corresponding dimple die, ie > screw > heads are different from rivet heads. Avery, Cleveland, ATS, Plane Tools, > all carry Screw dimple die sets. So you will need #40 rivet dimple die > set > for the platenut rivets and the appropriate screw dimple die set. > Dimpling > the platenuts is easy as Ed pointed out. Use the large size dimpled plate > nuts for the screw that you will be using if you can. They are much > easier > to rivet. Platenut jigs are available at those mentioned companies as > well. > Pricey but worth it if you are doing a bunch of platenuts. > Mike H 9A/8A > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ed" > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 2:03 PM > Subject: Re: RV-List: countersink, dimple and nutplates > > > > > > Carlos, > > > > .020 is indeed too thin for countersinking a standard rivet, but you can > > get away with "oops" rivets (sold by Avery and others) which have much > > smaller heads and require a much shallower countersink. You wouldn't > need > > to have dimpled nutplates if you use them. They are also known as shear > > head rivets. I use them a lot for holding nutplates. > > > > An alternative to dimpled nutplates is to dimple them yourself. I ground > > one side of the female die flat so that it clears the central portion of > > the nutplate to facilitate the process. > > > > Are you using flush screws? If so, you will need the countersunk > > nutplates. You don't have to get the ones with dimpled lugs if you > dimple > > them yourself. Avery and Cleaveland tools have dimple dies for screw > > holes. Another thing you can do, if you're too cheap to buy the dimple > > dies, is to make a jig with a C-sunk nutplate riveted to a scrap of > > aluminum. You would hold this behind the screw hole and run a flush > screw > > into it, using the nutplate as a female die. Be sure to lube the threads > > of the screw and the metal around the hole and work slowly. As always, > > practice on scrap first. > > > > Have fun with it. > > > > Pax, > > > > Ed Holyoke > > > > > > > > Carlos Sa wrote: > > > >> > >>Hello, all > >> > >>Pardon the interruption: I am and CH601 (Zenair's Zodiac) builder, and > am > >>looking for some information and advice. > >> > >>I want to build an access panel like the ones in the attached picture. > >>countersinking, dimpling and nutplates being rare things in a CH601, I > >>thought I would turn to the community of builders that does this the > most. > >> > >>I have done a good deal of research, but I don't feel confident enough > to > >>proceed. So, here are my questions & concerns: > >> > >>1) The CH601 skin is 0.020" thick. I suppose this is too thin for > >>countersinking? Do I dimple instead? > >>2) If I dimple the skin, I presume I should also dimple the material > >>underneath...? In the case of the nutplate, I presume I should get one > >>with the dimpled lugs? (I saw it in Wicks' on-line catalog: MS21049) > >>3) I have been unable to relate screw size to dimple set size. How does > >>this work? > >> > >>Any advice and suggestion welcome. Part numbers would be great !!! > >> > >>Thanks much for your time - now back to your regular broadcast. > >> > >> > >>Carlos Sa > >> > >>-------- > >>CH601-HD, plans > >>Montreal, Canada > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>Read this topic online here: > >> > >>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=140989#140989 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>Attachments: > >>http://forums.matronics.com//files/access_panel_412.jpg > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:58:14 AM PST US From: "Greg Williams" Subject: RV-List: Gear Legs Hi folks, I'm getting stuff ready to do my first annual condition inspection on my recently purchased, completed RV7. (I'm having a GREAT time flying!!) I want to change tires and was really nervous about the wing jack when I swapped tires 9 months ago. I was told to put a piece of pipe inside the landing gear strut before removing the nut and jack it up. Does anyone have their gear leg out in the open and could give me a measurement? Mine is all wrapped up in wheel pants and tough to get to right now. I think a 1" pipe is about right but need to know the inside diameter of the gear leg tube. Thanks in advance. Greg ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:30:11 AM PST US From: "Tim Bryan" Subject: RE: RV-List: Gear Legs Greg, There is an excellent tool from Avery just for this purpose. I use it and love it. You end up drilling a hole in the center of the wheel nut and installing a bracket over it to replace the rivenut for the wheel pants. It is an easy conversion, an inexpensive jack jig, and makes lifting a wheel and removing it quite safe and easy. Check it out here. http://www.averytools.com/p-181-rv-jack-stand.aspx I see they have the already modified axle nuts as well. http://www.averytools.com/p-179-modified-rv-axle-nuts-for-rv-jack-stand.aspx Here are the brackets for wheel pant connection http://www.averytools.com/p-180-rv-jack-stand-kit-bracket-kit.aspx You can purchase all this as a kit. Tim _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Williams Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 11:57 AM Subject: RV-List: Gear Legs Hi folks, I'm getting stuff ready to do my first annual condition inspection on my recently purchased, completed RV7. (I'm having a GREAT time flying!!) I want to change tires and was really nervous about the wing jack when I swapped tires 9 months ago. I was told to put a piece of pipe inside the landing gear strut before removing the nut and jack it up. Does anyone have their gear leg out in the open and could give me a measurement? Mine is all wrapped up in wheel pants and tough to get to right now. I think a 1" pipe is about right but need to know the inside diameter of the gear leg tube. Thanks in advance. Greg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:35:23 AM PST US From: Dave Cudney Subject: Re: RV-List: Gear Legs Tim: I'm having a hard time visualizing how you get the wheel off with the jack attached to the axle??? How does that work? dave On Oct 22, 2007, at 10:29 AM, Tim Bryan wrote: > Greg, > > > There is an excellent tool from Avery just for this purpose. I use > it and love it. You end up drilling a hole in the center of the > wheel nut and installing a bracket over it to replace the rivenut > for the wheel pants. It is an easy conversion, an inexpensive jack > jig, and makes lifting a wheel and removing it quite safe and > easy. Check it out here. > > http://www.averytools.com/p-181-rv-jack-stand.aspx > > > I see they have the already modified axle nuts as well. > > > http://www.averytools.com/p-179-modified-rv-axle-nuts-for-rv-jack- > stand.aspx > > > Here are the brackets for wheel pant connection > > http://www.averytools.com/p-180-rv-jack-stand-kit-bracket-kit.aspx > > > You can purchase all this as a kit. > > > Tim > > > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Williams > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 11:57 AM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: Gear Legs > > > Hi folks, > > I'm getting stuff ready to do my first annual condition inspection > on my recently purchased, completed RV7. (I'm having a GREAT time > flying!!) I want to change tires and was really nervous about > the wing jack when I swapped tires 9 months ago. I was told to put > a piece of pipe inside the landing gear strut before removing the > nut and jack it up. Does anyone have their gear leg out in the > open and could give me a measurement? Mine is all wrapped up in > wheel pants and tough to get to right now. I think a 1" pipe is > about right but need to know the inside diameter of the gear leg tube. > > Thanks in advance. > > Greg > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List > http://forums.matronics.com > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List_- > ============================================================ _- > forums.matronics.com_- > =========================================================== > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:46:09 AM PST US From: "Tim Bryan" Subject: RE: RV-List: Gear Legs Yea, I understand that. What you do is remove the little wheel pant bracket, place the jack inside the axle through the axle nut. After jacking it up you remove the axle nut and slide it onto the jack bracket pipe. You slide the wheel onto the jack bracket pipe as well then you can place a block or jackstand or something under the axle and let it down. This allows you to remove the wheel from the jack bracket to do whatever you need. Reverse to re-install. Tim _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Cudney Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 1:32 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Gear Legs Tim: I'm having a hard time visualizing how you get the wheel off with the jack attached to the axle??? How does that work? dave On Oct 22, 2007, at 10:29 AM, Tim Bryan wrote: http://www.averytools.com/p-181-rv-jack-stand.aspx I see they have the already modified axle nuts as well. http://www.averytools.com/p-179-modified-rv-axle-nuts-for-rv-jack-stand.aspx Here are the brackets for wheel pant connection _____ size=2 width="100%" align=center> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Williams Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 11:57 AM Subject: RV-List: Gear Legs Hi folks, I'm getting stuff ready to do my first annual condition inspection on my recently purchased, completed RV7. (I'm having a GREAT time flying!!) I want to change tires and was really nervous about the wing jack when I swapped tires 9 months ago. I was told to put a piece of pipe inside the landing gear strut before removing the nut and jack it up. Does anyone have their gear leg out in the open and could give me a measurement? Mine is all wrapped up in wheel pants and tough to get to right now. I think a 1" pipe is about right but need to know the inside diameter of the gear leg tube. Thanks in advance. Greg http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List http://forums.matronics.com - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - class="Apple-converted-space"> --> http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:14:13 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: Gear Legs wheel replacement From: James H Nelson Dave, What you do is to remove the pant. next, you remove the nut plate adapter from the nut leaving a (I believe a 11/16") hole. You put a pipe, about 12 to 15" long into the hole and put a jack on the end of the pipe. Jack the wheel up and then remove the nut (hopefully you pulled the key and loosened it a bit before you jacked it up) and slide the wheel outward on to the pipe. Once the wheel is removed far enough, you put a stand under the axle and let the jack down. Remove the wheel and pipe and do what ever. I modified my axle nuts to do this in the future. There is not a good way to do tire repair or what ever with the fairings in place. I did not relish lifting the a/c at the wing. Its a cheep mod. A piece of pipe and a small jack with a jack stand is all you need. Jim ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:24:10 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Gear Legs tire changing From: Michael W Stewart Dont all RV's have a platenet on the axel nut to hold the wheel pant bracket? I dont see how a hollow axel nut to take the pipe will work if you have to mount the wheel pant bracket to the axel nut. Mike "Tim Bryan" To Sent by: owner-rv-list-ser cc ver@matronics.com Subj ect RE: RV-List: Gear Legs 10/22/2007 01:29 PM Please respond to rv-list@matronics .com Greg, There is an excellent tool from Avery just for this purpose. I use it and love it. You end up drilling a hole in the center of the wheel nut and installing a bracket over it to replace the rivenut for the wheel pants .. It is an easy conversion, an inexpensive jack jig, and makes lifting a wheel and removing it quite safe and easy. Check it out here. http://www.averytools.com/p-181-rv-jack-stand.aspx I see they have the already modified axle nuts as well. http://www.averytools.com/p-179-modified-rv-axle-nuts-for-rv-jack-stand .aspx Here are the brackets for wheel pant connection http://www.averytools.com/p-180-rv-jack-stand-kit-bracket-kit.aspx You can purchase all this as a kit. Tim From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Williams Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 11:57 AM Subject: RV-List: Gear Legs Hi folks, I'm getting stuff ready to do my first annual condition inspection on m y recently purchased, completed RV7. (I'm having a GREAT time flying!!) I want to change tires and was really nervous about the wing jack when I swapped tires 9 months ago. I was told to put a piece of pipe inside t he landing gear strut before removing the nut and jack it up. Does anyone have their gear leg out in the open and could give me a measurement? M ine is all wrapped up in wheel pants and tough to get to right now. I thin k a 1" pipe is about right but need to know the inside diameter of the gear leg tube. Thanks in advance. Greg ======================== ============ ======================== ============ ======================== ============ ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:30:37 PM PST US From: Darrell Reiley Subject: RE: RV-List: Gear Legs Hey Greg, I've got a spare Avery jack and modified axle nut set I'll sell to you. They are nice and work very well. Total Price New $75.00, I'll take $50.00 Darrell --- Tim Bryan wrote: > Greg, > > > > There is an excellent tool from Avery just for this > purpose. I use it and > love it. You end up drilling a hole in the center > of the wheel nut and > installing a bracket over it to replace the rivenut > for the wheel pants. It > is an easy conversion, an inexpensive jack jig, and > makes lifting a wheel > and removing it quite safe and easy. Check it out > here. > > http://www.averytools.com/p-181-rv-jack-stand.aspx > > > > I see they have the already modified axle nuts as > well. > > > > http://www.averytools.com/p-179-modified-rv-axle-nuts-for-rv-jack-stand.aspx > > > > Here are the brackets for wheel pant connection > > http://www.averytools.com/p-180-rv-jack-stand-kit-bracket-kit.aspx > > > > You can purchase all this as a kit. > > > > Tim > > > > _____ > > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On > Behalf Of Greg Williams > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 11:57 AM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: Gear Legs > > > > Hi folks, > > I'm getting stuff ready to do my first annual > condition inspection on my > recently purchased, completed RV7. (I'm having a > GREAT time flying!!) I > want to change tires and was really nervous about > the wing jack when I > swapped tires 9 months ago. I was told to put a > piece of pipe inside the > landing gear strut before removing the nut and jack > it up. Does anyone have > their gear leg out in the open and could give me a > measurement? Mine is all > wrapped up in wheel pants and tough to get to right > now. I think a 1" pipe > is about right but need to know the inside diameter > of the gear leg tube. > > Thanks in advance. > > Greg > > > > > __________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:37:47 PM PST US From: "Tim Bryan" Subject: RE: RV-List: Gear Legs tire changing Mike, Check out the last link in my message below. It has a picture of the little bracket that goes over the hole in the axle nut. This little bracket has the platenut on it for the wheel pant. Tim _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael W Stewart Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 2:22 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Gear Legs tire changing Dont all RV's have a platenet on the axel nut to hold the wheel pant bracket? I dont see how a hollow axel nut to take the pipe will work if you have to mount the wheel pant bracket to the axel nut. Mike Inactive hide details for "Tim Bryan" "Tim Bryan" "Tim Bryan" Sent by: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com 10/22/2007 01:29 PM Please respond to rv-list@matronics.com To cc Subject RE: RV-List: Gear Legs Greg, There is an excellent tool from Avery just for this purpose. I use it and love it. You end up drilling a hole in the center of the wheel nut and installing a bracket over it to replace the rivenut for the wheel pants. It is an easy conversion, an inexpensive jack jig, and makes lifting a wheel and removing it quite safe and easy. Check it out here. http://www.averytools.com/p-181-rv-jack-stand.aspx I see they have the already modified axle nuts as well. http://www.averytools.com/p-179-modified-rv-axle-nuts-for-rv-jack-stand.aspx Here are the brackets for wheel pant connection http://www.averytools.com/p-180-rv-jack-stand-kit-bracket-kit.aspx You can purchase all this as a kit. Tim _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Williams Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 11:57 AM Subject: RV-List: Gear Legs Hi folks, I'm getting stuff ready to do my first annual condition inspection on my recently purchased, completed RV7. (I'm having a GREAT time flying!!) I want to change tires and was really nervous about the wing jack when I swapped tires 9 months ago. I was told to put a piece of pipe inside the landing gear strut before removing the nut and jack it up. Does anyone have their gear leg out in the open and could give me a measurement? Mine is all wrapped up in wheel pants and tough to get to right now. I think a 1" pipe is about right but need to know the inside diameter of the gear leg tube. Thanks in advance. Greg ==================================== ?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List ==================================== u>http://forums.matronics.com ==================================== ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:38:53 PM PST US From: "Tim Bryan" Subject: RE: RV-List: Gear Legs wheel replacement The problem I had with this method was the height of the pipe to the floor. I didn't have a jack that would get under it. Even my floor jack was too low so I went with the avery system. Both use the same principle however and it works great. Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James H Nelson > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 2:11 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: Gear Legs wheel replacement > > > Dave, > What you do is to remove the pant. next, you remove the nut plate > adapter from the nut leaving a (I believe a 11/16") hole. You put a > pipe, about 12 to 15" long into the hole and put a jack on the end of the > pipe. Jack the wheel up and then remove the nut (hopefully you pulled > the key and loosened it a bit before you jacked it up) and slide the > wheel outward on to the pipe. Once the wheel is removed far enough, you > put a stand under the axle and let the jack down. Remove the wheel and > pipe and do what ever. > I modified my axle nuts to do this in the future. There is not a > good way to do tire repair or what ever with the fairings in place. I > did not relish lifting the a/c at the wing. Its a cheep mod. A piece of > pipe and a small jack with a jack stand is all you need. > > Jim > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:23:20 PM PST US From: "John D. Heath" Subject: Re: RV-List: Gear Legs wheel replacement Dave, I got this somewhere. Whoever came up with it should realy get the credit but I don't know who that is. It seemed simple enough to duplicate that's what I planed to do. John D. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:53:10 PM PST US From: "mike humphrey" Subject: Re: RV-List: Gear Legs wheel replacement Brown tools or Avery sells it. I just saw it. Mike H ----- Original Message ----- From: "John D. Heath" Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 4:22 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Gear Legs wheel replacement > Dave, > > I got this somewhere. Whoever came up with it should realy get the credit > but I don't know who that is. It seemed simple enough to duplicate that's > what I planed to do. > > John D. > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:29:46 PM PST US From: Dave Cudney Subject: Re: RV-List: Gear Legs On Oct 22, 2007, at 11:45 AM, Tim Bryan wrote: > Yea, I understand that. What you do is remove the little wheel > pant bracket, place the jack inside the axle through the axle > nut. After jacking it up you remove the axle nut and slide it > onto the jack bracket pipe. You slide the wheel onto the jack > bracket pipe as well then you can place a block or jackstand or > something under the axle and let it down. This allows you to > remove the wheel from the jack bracket to do whatever you need. > > > Reverse to re-install. > > > Tim Thanks that makes sense. dave > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Cudney > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 1:32 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Gear Legs > > > Tim: > > > I'm having a hard time visualizing how you get the wheel off with > the jack attached to the axle??? How does that work? > > > dave > > > On Oct 22, 2007, at 10:29 AM, Tim Bryan wrote: > > > http://www.averytools.com/p-181-rv-jack-stand.aspx > > I see they have the already modified axle nuts as well. > > http://www.averytools.com/p-179-modified-rv-axle-nuts-for-rv-jack- > stand.aspx > > Here are the brackets for wheel pant connection > > size=2 width="100%" align=center> > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Williams > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 11:57 AM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: Gear Legs > > Hi folks, > > I'm getting stuff ready to do my first annual condition inspection > on my recently purchased, completed RV7. (I'm having a GREAT time > flying!!) I want to change tires and was really nervous about the > wing jack when I swapped tires 9 months ago. I was told to put a > piece of pipe inside the landing gear strut before removing the nut > and jack it up. Does anyone have their gear leg out in the open and > could give me a measurement? Mine is all wrapped up in wheel pants > and tough to get to right now. I think a 1" pipe is about right but > need to know the inside diameter of the gear leg tube. > > Thanks in advance. > > Greg > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List > http://forums.matronics.com > > - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - class="Apple-converted- > space"> --> http://forums.matronics.com > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List > http://forums.matronics.com > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List_- > ============================================================ _- > forums.matronics.com_- > =========================================================== > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:00:06 PM PST US From: "Greg Williams" Subject: Re: RV-List: Gear Legs Hey Folks, Thanks for all the replies. I'm looking for the right size pipe to use. My thought is to weld a 16" piece of pipe to this old scissor jack that I already have. It came out of some import car and is in good shape. It will go low enough to slide the pipe in after the wheel pant and little bracket are removed. That way it is always in my hangar ready for use. I wouldn't ever worry about the pipe falling off the jack either. If a piece of 3/4" sch 40 water pipe (7/8" OD) will work, I'll grind off the galvanizing, weld it to the jack & slap some paint on it. If I can get something bigger in there, that's better. Anyone know or can easily measure the ID of that gear leg axle for me? Greg On 10/22/07, Dave Cudney wrote: > > > On Oct 22, 2007, at 11:45 AM, Tim Bryan wrote: > > Yea, I understand that. What you do is remove the little wheel pant > bracket, place the jack inside the axle through the axle nut. After > jacking it up you remove the axle nut and slide it onto the jack bracket > pipe. You slide the wheel onto the jack bracket pipe as well then you can > place a block or jackstand or something under the axle and let it down. > This allows you to remove the wheel from the jack bracket to do whatever you > need. > > > Reverse to re-install. > > > Tim > > > Thanks that makes sense. > > dave > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [ > mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] > *On Behalf Of *Dave Cudney > *Sent:* Monday, October 22, 2007 1:32 PM > *To:* rv-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Gear Legs > > > Tim: > > > I'm having a hard time visualizing how you get the wheel off with the jack > attached to the axle??? How does that work? > > > dave > > > On Oct 22, 2007, at 10:29 AM, Tim Bryan wrote: > > > http://www.averytools.com/p-181-rv-jack-stand.aspx > > I see they have the already modified axle nuts as well. > > > http://www.averytools.com/p-179-modified-rv-axle-nuts-for-rv-jack-stand.aspx > > Here are the brackets for wheel pant connection > size=2 width="100%" align=center> > > *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [ > mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] > *On Behalf Of *Greg Williams > *Sent:* Monday, October 22, 2007 11:57 AM > *To:* rv-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RV-List: Gear Legs > > Hi folks, > > I'm getting stuff ready to do my first annual condition inspection on my > recently purchased, completed RV7. (I'm having a GREAT time flying!!) I want > to change tires and was really nervous about the wing jack when I swapped > tires 9 months ago. I was told to put a piece of pipe inside the landing > gear strut before removing the nut and jack it up. Does anyone have their > gear leg out in the open and could give me a measurement? Mine is all > wrapped up in wheel pants and tough to get to right now. I think a 1" pipe > is about right but need to know the inside diameter of the gear leg tube. > > Thanks in advance. > > Greg > > * * > > * * > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List* > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > * * > > * ** - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - class="Apple-converted-space"> --> http://forums.matronics.com* > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > ** > > * * > > * - The RV-List Email Forum - class="Apple-converted-space"> * > > --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List - NEW > MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - class="Apple-converted-space"> --> > http://forums.matronics.com > > > * > > > * > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:08:39 PM PST US From: "Tim Bryan" Subject: RE: RV-List: Gear Legs Hi Greg, The hole in my axle nut based on the modification is 1=94 diameter. The shaft from the avery tool is =BE=94 diameter. I don=92t have an axle nut off right now so not sure of the size hole into it. Hope that helps. Tim _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Williams Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 4:59 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Gear Legs Hey Folks, Thanks for all the replies. I'm looking for the right size pipe to use. My thought is to weld a 16" piece of pipe to this old scissor jack that I already have. It came out of some import car and is in good shape. It will go low enough to slide the pipe in after the wheel pant and little bracket are removed. That way it is always in my hangar ready for use. I wouldn't ever worry about the pipe falling off the jack either. If a piece of 3/4" sch 40 water pipe (7/8" OD) will work, I'll grind off the galvanizing, weld it to the jack & slap some paint on it. If I can get something bigger in there, that's better. Anyone know or can easily measure the ID of that gear leg axle for me? Greg On 10/22/07, Dave Cudney < yenduc@sbcglobal.net> wrote: On Oct 22, 2007, at 11:45 AM, Tim Bryan wrote: Yea, I understand that. What you do is remove the little wheel pant bracket, place the jack inside the axle through the axle nut. After jacking it up you remove the axle nut and slide it onto the jack bracket pipe. You slide the wheel onto the jack bracket pipe as well then you can place a block or jackstand or something under the axle and let it down. This allows you to remove the wheel from the jack bracket to do whatever you need. Reverse to re-install. Tim Thanks that makes sense. dave _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [ mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Cudney Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 1:32 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Gear Legs Tim: I'm having a hard time visualizing how you get the wheel off with the jack attached to the axle??? How does that work? dave On Oct 22, 2007, at 10:29 AM, Tim Bryan wrote: http://www.averytools.com/p-181-rv-jack-stand.aspx I see they have the already modified axle nuts as well. http://www.averytools.com/p-179-modified-rv-axle-nuts-for-rv-jack-stand.a spx Here are the brackets for wheel pant connection size=2 width="100%" align=center> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [ mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com ] On Behalf Of Greg Williams Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 11:57 AM Subject: RV-List: Gear Legs Hi folks, I'm getting stuff ready to do my first annual condition inspection on my recently purchased, completed RV7. (I'm having a GREAT time flying!!) I want to change tires and was really nervous about the wing jack when I swapped tires 9 months ago. I was told to put a piece of pipe inside the landing gear strut before removing the nut and jack it up. Does anyone have their gear leg out in the open and could give me a measurement? Mine is all wrapped up in wheel pants and tough to get to right now. I think a 1" pipe is about right but need to know the inside diameter of the gear leg tube. Thanks in advance. Greg http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List http://forums.matronics.com - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - class="Apple-converted-space"> --> http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List http://forums.matronics.com - The RV-List Email Forum - class="Apple-converted-space"> --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - class="Apple-converted-space"> --> http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:04:24 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: Gear Legs From: Doug Gray Axle ID on my -6 gear legs is 7/8". Doug Gray On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 14:58 -0700, Greg Williams wrote: > Anyone know or can easily measure the ID of that gear leg axle for me? > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:33:08 PM PST US From: BRUCE GRAY Subject: RV-List: RV8 Wheel Axles If anyone can help. I need someone that has the invoice of a finishing kit to look up the proper nomenclature of the wheel axles and their price. I ne ed this item omitted from the finishing kit and they have deducted $27.19. I can't find the invoice that was sent with them for the life of me and nee d to make this correction before the kit can be shipped. TIA to anyone that can help, Bruce Gray RV8 Fuse Wiring and panel work _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:49:58 PM PST US From: "Larry Mersek" <1rv6flyer@internet49.com> Subject: RV-List: Water/Moisture in Static System RV List, The glass on my airspeed indicator is fogged up with moisture. I have removed the static line from the back of the instrument and found droplets of water in the line. I'm looking for suggestions on how to dry out the airspeed indicator and removal of water from the system. I have used compressed air to purge out the water droplets through the static lines and put a small wattage heat lamp under the airspeed instrument with no success. I am also concerned this moisture will migrate to my Dynon D10A. I first noticed the moisture two days after flying through a small rain shower. I have 630 hours on my RV-6 and have flown it through rain showers before, this is the first time I have ever had an issue with moisture/water in the system. I do not have the Cessna style static water sump collection bottle sold by ACS installed in the static system and am considering installing one. Thanks in advance for your help and suggestions. Larry Mersek N336RV ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 09:57:30 PM PST US From: "Dale Walter" Subject: RE: RV-List: Water/Moisture in Static System Hi Larry, I installed that bottle and it solved my problem, which was similar to yours. I put it at the low point in the back, behind the baggage compartment, extended the static line all the way to the bottom of fuselage. The line going from the bottle to the instruments is punched in to protrude an inch inside making it easy to keep any drops from moving forward. Putting that end of the bottle upward would do the same thing, but my connecter broke on that end of the bottle so I turned it into an opportunity. Bottle nipples are fragile. Since I live in South Florida with lots of humidity I also installed two 60 watt light bulbs (wired in series to reduce effective voltage per bulb) under the radio stack and plug them in to wall outlet in the hanger. This keeps the moisture out of my radios, the series wiring reduces the excessive heat a bulb would normally have in this confined area. Prior to this I was getting problems with my transponder after a humid week. No problems since. Dale RV6a 935 hrs, Lyc 0-360 A1A, Hartzell Youtube videos channel name: "lionheart33026" _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Mersek Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 11:45 PM Subject: RV-List: Water/Moisture in Static System RV List, The glass on my airspeed indicator is fogged up with moisture. I have removed the static line from the back of the instrument and found droplets of water in the line. I'm looking for suggestions on how to dry out the airspeed indicator and removal of water from the system. I have used compressed air to purge out the water droplets through the static lines and put a small wattage heat lamp under the airspeed instrument with no success. I am also concerned this moisture will migrate to my Dynon D10A. I first noticed the moisture two days after flying through a small rain shower. I have 630 hours on my RV-6 and have flown it through rain showers before, this is the first time I have ever had an issue with moisture/water in the system. I do not have the Cessna style static water sump collection bottle sold by ACS installed in the static system and am considering installing one. Thanks in advance for your help and suggestions. 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