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1. 05:26 AM - Re: Aileron trailing edge skislope effectAileron trailing edge skislope effect (Charles Heathco)
2. 02:23 PM - Question for A&P Types (or anyone) (Tim Bryan)
3. 03:56 PM - Re: Question for A&P Types (or anyone) (dougpflyrv@aol.com)
4. 04:13 PM - Re: Question for A&P Types (or anyone) (Dave Saylor)
5. 04:24 PM - Re: Question for A&P Types (or anyone) (David Burton)
6. 04:28 PM - Re: Question for A&P Types (or anyone) (Dale Walter)
7. 04:45 PM - Re: Question for A&P Types (or anyone) (c.ennis)
8. 04:50 PM - Re: Question for A&P Types (or anyone) (linn Walters)
9. 05:26 PM - Re: Question for A&P Types (or anyone) (Bruce Gray)
10. 06:22 PM - Re: Question for A&P Types (or anyone) (Sherman Butler)
11. 07:20 PM - Re: Question for A&P Types (or anyone) (Greg Williams)
12. 07:45 PM - Re: Question for A&P Types (or anyone) (Darrell Reiley)
13. 07:56 PM - For sale: Matco wheels and brakes (vft@aol.com)
14. 08:12 PM - Re: Question for A&P Types (or anyone) (Jeff Dowling)
15. 08:21 PM - Re: Question for A&P Types (or anyone) (Scott)
16. 09:51 PM - Re: Question for A&P Types (or anyone) (Bruce Gray)
17. 09:58 PM - Re: Aileron trailing edge skislope effectAileron trailing edge skislope effect (Michael D. Cencula)
18. 10:15 PM - Re: Question for A&P Types (or anyone) (Darrell Reiley)
19. 10:25 PM - Re: Question for A&P Types (or anyone) (Mike Robertson)
20. 10:54 PM - Re: Question for A&P Types (or anyone) (Bruce Gray)
21. 11:40 PM - Re: Question for A&P Types (or anyone) (linn Walters)
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Subject: | Re: Aileron trailing edge skislope effectAileron trailing edge |
skislope effect
Wow! what did vans say re such a noticable missmatch? Charlie Heathco
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Subject: | Question for A&P Types (or anyone) |
Hi all,
I am planning to start my first condition inspection on my -6 today. It was
due by the end of the month in October, but travel got in my way of
completing it. I would like to get the oil warmed up good before draining
it and also doing the compression check. It seems I didn't really get it
warmed up good last time I tried to just take it out and run it up. Am I
allowed to do a solo flight to warm the oil up as a test flight even though
it is not current?
Thanks
Tim
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Subject: | Re: Question for A&P Types (or anyone) |
NO!!!
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Bryan <n616tb@btsapps.com>
Sent: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 2:50 pm
Subject: RV-List: Question for A&P Types (or anyone)
Hi all,
=C2-
I am planning to start my first condition inspection on my -6 today.=C2- I
t was due by the end of the month in October, but travel got in my way of co
mpleting it.=C2- I would like to get the oil warmed up good before drainin
g it and also doing the compression check.=C2- It seems I didn=99t r
eally get it warmed up good last time I tried to just take it out and run it
up.=C2- Am I allowed to do a solo flight to warm the oil up as a test fli
ght even though it is not current?
=C2-
Thanks
Tim
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Subject: | Question for A&P Types (or anyone) |
Not if your operating limitations are like everyone else's.
But you could do a compression check as warm as you can get it, along with
the rest of the condition inspection, then sign it off and fly it assuming
the compression check was OK. Then change the oil after the inspection.
I wouldn't think the FAA would be thrilled to find out it was out of annual
if anything happened, but your insurance company would be overjoyed...
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Bryan
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 12:50 PM
Subject: RV-List: Question for A&P Types (or anyone)
Hi all,
I am planning to start my first condition inspection on my -6 today. It was
due by the end of the month in October, but travel got in my way of
completing it. I would like to get the oil warmed up good before draining
it and also doing the compression check. It seems I didn't really get it
warmed up good last time I tried to just take it out and run it up. Am I
allowed to do a solo flight to warm the oil up as a test flight even though
it is not current?
Thanks
Tim
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Subject: | Question for A&P Types (or anyone) |
Hi Tim,
I believe you need a ferry permit to fly it legally. Check with the local
FSDO to see what they have to say about this. It shouldn't be a big deal.
Dave
RV6
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dougpflyrv@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Question for A&P Types (or anyone)
NO!!!
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Bryan <n616tb@btsapps.com>
Sent: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 2:50 pm
Subject: RV-List: Question for A&P Types (or anyone)
Hi all,
I am planning to start my first condition inspection on my -6 today. It was
due by the end of the month in October, but travel got in my way of
completing it. I would like to get the oil warmed up good before draining
it and also doing the compression check. It seems I didn't really get it
warmed up good last time I tried to just take it out and run it up. Am I
allowed to do a solo flight to warm the oil up as a test flight even though
it is not current?
Thanks
Tim
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Subject: | Question for A&P Types (or anyone) |
Your biggest risk is insurance will not cover it during that time.
Dale
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Bryan
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 3:50 PM
Subject: RV-List: Question for A&P Types (or anyone)
Hi all,
I am planning to start my first condition inspection on my -6 today. It was
due by the end of the month in October, but travel got in my way of
completing it. I would like to get the oil warmed up good before draining
it and also doing the compression check. It seems I didn't really get it
warmed up good last time I tried to just take it out and run it up. Am I
allowed to do a solo flight to warm the oil up as a test flight even though
it is not current?
Thanks
Tim
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Subject: | Re: Question for A&P Types (or anyone) |
No, for all intents and purposes your aircraft is illegal to fly, just as y
ou are when your medical expires.
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Subject: | Re: Question for A&P Types (or anyone) |
Tim, I can't reply to the legalities. But, I'll be the devils advocate
and pose the question: Who (other than yourself and the rest of the
list :-P ) would know or find out if you flew your airplane out of
'conditional inspection'??? AFAIK, nobody will question your
'conditional inspection' unless you really mess up and substantially
damage the airplane and have to report the incident.
I make a 'conditional inspection' every time I get in my homebuilt. I
just don't log it. Once a year (or thereabouts) I do a 'more thorough'
conditional inspection, which I log.
Linn
do not archive
Tim Bryan wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>
>
>I am planning to start my first condition inspection on my -6 today. It was due
by the end of the month in October, but travel got in my way of completing
it. I would like to get the oil warmed up good before draining it and also doing
the compression check. It seems I didn't really get it warmed up good last
time I tried to just take it out and run it up. Am I allowed to do a solo flight
to warm the oil up as a test flight even though it is not current?
>
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Tim
>
>
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Subject: | Question for A&P Types (or anyone) |
Sure, you just can't fly it until you finish and sign off the condition
inspection.
Bruce
<http://www.glasair.org/> www.Glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Bryan
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 3:50 PM
Subject: RV-List: Question for A&P Types (or anyone)
Hi all,
I am planning to start my first condition inspection on my -6 today. It
was
due by the end of the month in October, but travel got in my way of
completing it. I would like to get the oil warmed up good before
draining
it and also doing the compression check. It seems I didn't really get
it
warmed up good last time I tried to just take it out and run it up. Am
I
allowed to do a solo flight to warm the oil up as a test flight even
though
it is not current?
Thanks
Tim
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Subject: | Re: Question for A&P Types (or anyone) |
A ferry permit is not a big deal. An A&P will make a long entry, CALL your insurance
Co to let them know. I flew from TN to TX on a ferry permit, when a grumman
expert just did not show up for over a month to do the annual and could
not set a date. A local guy signed it for $20, as he was at the airport anyway.
Tim Bryan <n616tb@btsapps.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I am planning to start my first condition inspection on my -6 today. It was due
by the end of the month in October, but travel got in my way of completing it.
I would like to get the oil warmed up good before draining it and also doing
the compression check. It seems I didnt really get it warmed up good last
time I tried to just take it out and run it up. Am I allowed to do a solo flight
to warm the oil up as a test flight even though it is not current?
Thanks
Tim
Sherman Butler
RV-7a Wings
Idaho Falls
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Subject: | Re: Question for A&P Types (or anyone) |
Along a similar line, what does a non-builder have to do to get a
certificate to do his own condition inspection?
On Nov 8, 2007 3:07 PM, Bruce Gray <Bruce@glasair.org> wrote:
> Sure, you just can't fly it until you finish and sign off the condition
> inspection.
>
>
> Bruce
>
> www.Glasair.org <http://www.glasair.org/>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim Bryan
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 08, 2007 3:50 PM
> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV-List: Question for A&P Types (or anyone)
>
> Hi all,
>
>
> I am planning to start my first condition inspection on my -6 today. It was
due by the end of the month in October, but travel got in my way of completing
it. I would like to get the oil warmed up good before draining it and also doing
the compression check. It seems I didn't really get it warmed up good last
time I tried to just take it out and run it up. Am I allowed to do a solo
flight to warm the oil up as a test flight even though it is not current?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Tim**
>
> *
>
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Subject: | Re: Question for A&P Types (or anyone) |
True... this happens all the time, no big deal.
Darrell
--- Sherman Butler <lsbrv7a@yahoo.com> wrote:
> A ferry permit is not a big deal. An A&P will make a
> long entry, CALL your insurance Co to let them know.
> I flew from TN to TX on a ferry permit, when a
> grumman expert just did not show up for over a month
> to do the annual and could not set a date. A local
> guy signed it for $20, as he was at the airport
> anyway.
>
>
>
> Tim Bryan <n616tb@btsapps.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I am planning to start my first condition inspection
> on my -6 today. It was due by the end of the month
> in October, but travel got in my way of completing
> it. I would like to get the oil warmed up good
> before draining it and also doing the compression
> check. It seems I didnt really get it warmed up
> good last time I tried to just take it out and run
> it up. Am I allowed to do a solo flight to warm the
> oil up as a test flight even though it is not
> current?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sherman Butler
> RV-7a Wings
> Idaho Falls
> __________________________________________________
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Subject: | For sale: Matco wheels and brakes |
I've bought a set of Grove wheels and brakes for #25 and would like to get something
out of the Matco's I have. These have been on the airplane for a number
of years but were never used in anger and are in very good shape.? I'm asking
$400 but will take just about any reasonable offer. Maybe one of you guys knows
someone building a HR2 on a budget. Included are:
2- Matco 5" wheels
2- Matco single piston calipers
2- Torque plates
2- 5" axels w/nuts
2- Air Hawk tires w/tubes
If anyone is interested please respond off list or give me a call at : 407-687-3126
Danny
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Subject: | Re: Question for A&P Types (or anyone) |
I think he would have to get his a and p.
Shemp
do not archive
Greg Williams wrote:
> Along a similar line, what does a non-builder have to do to get a
> certificate to do his own condition inspection?
>
> On Nov 8, 2007 3:07 PM, Bruce Gray <Bruce@glasair.org
> <mailto:Bruce@glasair.org>> wrote:
>
> Sure, you just can't fly it until you finish and sign off the
> condition inspection.
>
>
>
> Bruce
>
> www.Glasair.org <http://www.glasair.org/>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> <mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com>
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> <mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com> ] *On Behalf Of
> *Tim Bryan
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 08, 2007 3:50 PM
> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
> *Subject:* RV-List: Question for A&P Types (or anyone)
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
>
> I am planning to start my first condition inspection on my -6 today.
It was due by the end of the month in October, but travel got in my way of completing
it. I would like to get the oil warmed up good before draining it and
also doing the compression check. It seems I didn't really get it warmed up
good last time I tried to just take it out and run it up. Am I allowed to do
a solo flight to warm the oil up as a test flight even though it is not current?
>
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Tim*
> *
>
> *
>
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Subject: | Re: Question for A&P Types (or anyone) |
Build your own airplane and apply for the repairman's certificate.
That's about all there is to it.
Scott
http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/
Gotta Fly or Gonna Die
Building RV-4 (Super Slow Build Version)
Greg Williams wrote:
> Along a similar line, what does a non-builder have to do to get a
> certificate to do his own condition inspection?
>
> On Nov 8, 2007 3:07 PM, Bruce Gray <Bruce@glasair.org
> <mailto:Bruce@glasair.org>> wrote:
>
> Sure, you just can't fly it until you finish and sign off the
> condition inspection.
>
>
>
> Bruce
>
> www.Glasair.org <http://www.glasair.org/>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> <mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com>
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> <mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com> ] On Behalf Of Tim
> Bryan
> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 3:50 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Question for A&P Types (or anyone)
>
>
>Hi all,
>
>
>
>
>I am planning to start my first condition inspection on my -6 today. It was due
by the end of the month in October, but travel got in my way of completing
it. I would like to get the oil warmed up good before draining it and also doing
the compression check. It seems I didn't really get it warmed up good last
time I tried to just take it out and run it up. Am I allowed to do a solo flight
to warm the oil up as a test flight even though it is not current?
>
>
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Tim
>
>
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Subject: | Question for A&P Types (or anyone) |
Repairman's certificates are specific and only apply to one "N" numbered
airplane.
Bruce
www.Glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Question for A&P Types (or anyone)
Build your own airplane and apply for the repairman's certificate.
That's about all there is to it.
Scott
http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/
Gotta Fly or Gonna Die
Building RV-4 (Super Slow Build Version)
Greg Williams wrote:
> Along a similar line, what does a non-builder have to do to get a
> certificate to do his own condition inspection?
>
> On Nov 8, 2007 3:07 PM, Bruce Gray <Bruce@glasair.org
> <mailto:Bruce@glasair.org>> wrote:
>
> Sure, you just can't fly it until you finish and sign off the
> condition inspection.
>
>
>
> Bruce
>
> www.Glasair.org <http://www.glasair.org/>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> <mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com>
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> <mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com> ] On Behalf Of Tim
> Bryan
> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 3:50 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Question for A&P Types (or anyone)
>
>
>Hi all,
>
>
>
>
>I am planning to start my first condition inspection on my -6 today.
>It was due by the end of the month in October, but travel got in my way
>of completing it. I would like to get the oil warmed up good before
>draining it and also doing the compression check. It seems I didn't
>really get it warmed up good last time I tried to just take it out and
>run it up. Am I allowed to do a solo flight to warm the oil up as a
>test flight even though it is not current?
>
>
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Tim
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Aileron trailing edge skislope effectAileron trailing edge |
skislope effect
Here's Bruce's response:
---
Mike,
Several of us have looked at your aileron trailing edge, and some wish theirs
looked that good. Just finish them and move on. The trailing edge is fine.
Bruce Reynolds
brucer@vansaircraft.com
---
I didn't agree, so I ordered new ribs to fix the problem. I'm glad I
did. :-)
Charles Heathco wrote:
> Wow! what did vans say re such a noticable missmatch? Charlie Heathco
> *
> *
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Subject: | Re: Question for A&P Types (or anyone) |
If I'm not mistaken, Tim is a builder...?
Darrell
--- Greg Williams <mr.gsun+rv-list@gmail.com> wrote:
> Along a similar line, what does a non-builder have
> to do to get a
> certificate to do his own condition inspection?
>
> On Nov 8, 2007 3:07 PM, Bruce Gray
> <Bruce@glasair.org> wrote:
>
> > Sure, you just can't fly it until you finish and
> sign off the condition
> > inspection.
> >
> >
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > www.Glasair.org <http://www.glasair.org/>
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:
> > owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> *Tim Bryan
> > *Sent:* Thursday, November 08, 2007 3:50 PM
> > *To:* rv-list@matronics.com
> > *Subject:* RV-List: Question for A&P Types (or
> anyone)
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> >
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> > I am planning to start my first condition
> inspection on my -6 today. It was due by the end of
> the month in October, but travel got in my way of
> completing it. I would like to get the oil warmed
> up good before draining it and also doing the
> compression check. It seems I didn't really get it
> warmed up good last time I tried to just take it out
> and run it up. Am I allowed to do a solo flight to
> warm the oil up as a test flight even though it is
> not current?
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> > Thanks
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Subject: | Question for A&P Types (or anyone) |
NO! You would be violating your Operating Limitations. Sorry!!!
Mike Robertosn
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From: n616tb@btsapps.comTo: rv-list@matronics.comSubject: RV-List: Question
for A&P Types (or anyone)Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 14:50:17 -0600
Hi all, I am planning to start my first condition inspection on my -6 today
. It was due by the end of the month in October, but travel got in my way
of completing it. I would like to get the oil warmed up good before draini
ng it and also doing the compression check. It seems I didn=92t really get
it warmed up good last time I tried to just take it out and run it up. Am
I allowed to do a solo flight to warm the oil up as a test flight even tho
ugh it is not current? ThanksTim
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Unless you hold the specific "N" numbered repairmans certificate for that
particular airplane, it must be signed off by an A&P. In other words, if you
hold a repairmans cert for your RV-6, you can sign off your condition
inspection but not sign off your buddies RV-6.
Bruce
www.Glasair.org
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Darrell Reiley
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 10:57 PM
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If I'm not mistaken, Tim is a builder...?
Darrell
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Subject: | Re: Question for A&P Types (or anyone) |
Greg Williams wrote:
> Along a similar line, what does a non-builder have to do to get a
> certificate to do his own condition inspection?
Go to A&P school.
Linn
do not archive
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2007 3:07 PM, Bruce Gray <Bruce@glasair.org
> <mailto:Bruce@glasair.org>> wrote:
>
> Sure, you just can't fly it until you finish and sign off the
> condition inspection.
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> Bruce
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> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> <mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com> ] On Behalf Of Tim
> Bryan
> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 3:50 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Question for A&P Types (or anyone)
>
>
>Hi all,
>
>
>
>
>I am planning to start my first condition inspection on my -6 today. It was due
by the end of the month in October, but travel got in my way of completing
it. I would like to get the oil warmed up good before draining it and also doing
the compression check. It seems I didn't really get it warmed up good last
time I tried to just take it out and run it up. Am I allowed to do a solo flight
to warm the oil up as a test flight even though it is not current?
>
>
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Tim
>
>
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