---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 11/17/07: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:02 AM - Re: Tail Wheel Training (Michael Kraus) 2. 06:41 AM - Re: Tail Wheel Training (Richard Dudley) 3. 07:22 AM - Re: Tail Wheel Training (Ralph Finch) 4. 08:05 AM - Subject: Nose Gear Leg (Joe & Jan Connell) 5. 08:18 AM - Re: Subject: Nose Gear Leg (Konrad L. Werner) 6. 09:52 AM - Subject: Nose Gear Leg (Ralph Hoover) 7. 10:16 AM - Re: Subject: Nose Gear Leg (Ron Lee) 8. 10:20 AM - Re:Tail Wheel Training (Jerry2DT@aol.com) 9. 01:18 PM - Re: Re:Tail Wheel Training (Richard Seiders) 10. 02:24 PM - Re: Tail Wheel Training (Reginald C. Smith, Sr.) 11. 02:27 PM - Re: Tail Wheel Training (Reginald C. Smith, Sr.) 12. 02:36 PM - Re: Tail Wheel Training (Reginald C. Smith, Sr.) 13. 02:43 PM - Re: Re:Tail Wheel Training (Reginald C. Smith, Sr.) 14. 05:06 PM - Re: Subject: Nose Gear Leg (c.ennis) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:02:40 AM PST US From: Michael Kraus Subject: RE: RV-List: Tail Wheel Training Where are you located? -----Original Message----- From: "Reginald C. Smith, Sr." Sent: 11/16/07 11:13 PM Subject: RV-List: Tail Wheel Training Listers', Does anyone know of a good place and/or person available to help me transition from "Nosedrager" to "Taildrager"? I'm due for my BFR and would like to use that training to accomplish it. With all the 'Hubbub' about the Nose Wheel Situation, I'd like to have that option; since I'm at that point in my 6(A) construction. I'm also considering purchasing a Taildrager, so suggestions are well received and most welcome. Thanks. RC. RV-6(A)? Tail, Wings Looking for Fuselage Want to FLY NOW _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:41:25 AM PST US From: Richard Dudley Subject: Re: RV-List: Tail Wheel Training RC I would also enthusiastically recommend Jan Bussell as an excellent instructor. I did a combined biennial check and transition to a -6A with him. My first flight in my -6A was almost a non event. Richard Dudley do not archive rv6n@optonline.net wrote: > I did my tail wheel transition training with Jan Bussell. He owns a 6 > and a 6A and is in Okechobee, Fl. I was very happy with Jan and > believe it would have been impossible to have flown my RV6 without his > expert help. The insurance co. wanted 10 hours in make and model and > we did my BFR. Jan's email address is: janjoyce@strato.net > > Good luck, > Bob Bales > RV6 flying, 65 hrs > > do not archive > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Reginald C. Smith, Sr." > Date: Saturday, November 17, 2007 12:16 am > Subject: RV-List: Tail Wheel Training > To: rv-list@matronics.com > > > > > Listers', > > > > Does anyone know of a good place and/or person available to > > help me transition from "Nosedrager" to "Taildrager"? I'm due > > for my BFR and would like to use that training to accomplish it. > > With all the 'Hubbub' about the Nose Wheel Situation, I'd like > > to have that option; since I'm at that point in my 6(A) > > construction. I'm also considering purchasing a Taildrager, so > > suggestions are well received and most welcome. Thanks. > > > > RC. > > > > RV-6(A)? Tail, Wings > > Looking for Fuselage > > Want to FLY NOW > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! > > http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:22:59 AM PST US From: "Ralph Finch" Subject: RE: RV-List: Tail Wheel Training Sounds like you can build either a 6 or 6A? I can't advise as to where to get tailwheel instruction, but do have an opinion on the choice between the two. I've got over a hundred hours in tailwheels (mostly a J-3, but also Aeronca and Decathlon). Nevertheless when I started looking for a small two-place certificated plane to buy a few years ago I never seriously considered a tailwheel airplane. I wanted to fly cross-country, and knew that after several hours of being bounced around in hot, lumpy air, the last thing I wanted to try was landing a tailwheel in a 10- to 15-knot cross-wind somewhere. I ended up getting an Aircoupe which I still have while I start building a -9A. By no means am I dissing tailwheel aircraft. I'm just saying for me, as much as I enjoyed my time in the Cub and others, I knew I was not a hot-shot pilot and wanted the greater ease of a trike-gear plane. So I would urge you to get the tailwheel instruction and keep flying one for a while, then make a realistic decision for you and your expected flying trips. Ralph Finch _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Reginald C. Smith, Sr. Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 8:14 PM Subject: RV-List: Tail Wheel Training Listers', Does anyone know of a good place and/or person available to help me transition from "Nosedrager" to "Taildrager"? I'm due for my BFR and would like to use that training to accomplish it. With all the 'Hubbub' about the Nose Wheel Situation, I'd like to have that option; since I'm at that point in my 6(A) construction. I'm also considering purchasing a Taildrager, so suggestions are well received and most welcome. Thanks. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:05:36 AM PST US From: "Joe & Jan Connell" Subject: Subject: RV-List: Nose Gear Leg A question: What if we keep the original nose gear leg and only change the fork? What are the implications of having the nose gear 1 inch longer? I'm not flying my -9A yet but would like to know your thoughts... Joe Connell ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:18:08 AM PST US From: "Konrad L. Werner" Subject: Re: Subject: RV-List: Nose Gear Leg Chances are that you may land on the nosegear first, due to its increased angle of attack stance. The nosegear is not designed as a landing gear (per Vans), but rather only a taxi gear. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe & Jan Connell To: RV-List Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 8:59 AM Subject: Subject: RV-List: Nose Gear Leg A question: What if we keep the original nose gear leg and only change the fork? What are the implications of having the nose gear 1 inch longer? I'm not flying my -9A yet but would like to know your thoughts... Joe Connell ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:52:42 AM PST US From: Ralph Hoover Subject: Subject: RV-List: Nose Gear Leg Joe, The new fork has the same geometry as the old except the bearing area is shortened from the bottom. This allows the leg to be an inch shorter allowing more ground clearance. The choice is do the mod or not. If you do the mod you can choose either to replace or rework the leg. Ralph / / / A question: / / / / What if we keep the original nose gear leg and only change the fork? / / What are the implications of having the nose gear 1 inch longer? / / / / I'm not flying my -9A yet but would like to know your thoughts... / / / / Joe Connell/ -- Ralph C. Hoover RV7A hooverra at verizon dot net ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:16:33 AM PST US From: "Ron Lee" Subject: Re: Subject: RV-List: Nose Gear Leg I believe that the below statement is wrong. The top of the new fork and the axle holes are in the same place. If you do not modify the threads on the old gear leg then you can't use the new fork. Either stay with your current setup which many will say is ok OR rethread the old gear leg and install the new fork Ron Lee ----- Original Message ----- From: Konrad L. Werner To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:15 AM Subject: Re: Subject: RV-List: Nose Gear Leg Chances are that you may land on the nosegear first, due to its increased angle of attack stance. The nosegear is not designed as a landing gear (per Vans), but rather only a taxi gear. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe & Jan Connell To: RV-List Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 8:59 AM Subject: Subject: RV-List: Nose Gear Leg A question: What if we keep the original nose gear leg and only change the fork? What are the implications of having the nose gear 1 inch longer? I'm not flying my -9A yet but would like to know your thoughts... Joe Connell href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics. com/Navigator?RV-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:20:49 AM PST US From: Jerry2DT@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Re:Tail Wheel Training Have you checked into the diff in insurance cost -6a/-6? Just curious what it is... Jerry From: "Reginald C. Smith, Sr." Subject: RV-List: Tail Wheel Training Listers', Does anyone know of a good place and/or person available to help me tr ansition from "Nosedrager" to "Taildrager"? I'm due for my BFR and would l ike to use that training to accomplish it. With all the 'Hubbub' about the Nose Wheel Situation, I'd like to have that option; since I'm at that poin t in my 6(A) construction. I'm also considering purchasing a Taildrager, so suggestions are well received and most welcome. Thanks. RC. RV-6(A)? Tail, Wings Looking for Fuselage Want to FLY NOW ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:18:49 PM PST US From: Richard Seiders Subject: Re: RV-List: Re:Tail Wheel Training --- MIME Errors - No Plain-Text Section Found --- A message with no text/plain MIME section was received. The entire body of the message was removed. Please resend the email using Plain Text formatting. HOTMAIL is notorious for only including an HTML section in their client's default configuration. If you're using HOTMAIL, please see your email application's settings and switch to a default mail option that uses "Plain Text". --- MIME Errors No Plain-Text Section Found --- ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:24:04 PM PST US From: "Reginald C. Smith, Sr." Subject: RE: RV-List: Tail Wheel Training I live in Lake Elsinore, commute to LGB for Work (4am-4pm m-f), and have a Hanger @Corona.> From: n223rv@wolflakeairport.net> Subject: RE: RV-List: Ta il Wheel Training> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 06:59:21 -0500> To: rv-list@matro rport.net>> > Where are you located?> > -----Original Message-----> From: " Reginald C. Smith, Sr." > To: rv-list@matronics.com> S ent: 11/16/07 11:13 PM> Subject: RV-List: Tail Wheel Training> > > Listers' ,> > Does anyone know of a good place and/or person available to help me tr ansition from "Nosedrager" to "Taildrager"? I'm due for my BFR and would li ke to use that training to accomplish it. With all the 'Hubbub' about the N ose Wheel Situation, I'd like to have that option; since I'm at that point in my 6(A) construction. I'm also considering purchasing a Taildrager, so s uggestions are well received and most welcome. Thanks.> > RC.> > RV-6(A)? T ail, Wings> Looking for Fuselage> Want to FLY NOW> > > ____________________ _____________________________________________> Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Tre ======================> > > _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/connect.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_newways_1120 07 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:27:55 PM PST US From: "Reginald C. Smith, Sr." Subject: RE: RV-List: Tail Wheel Training If I'm not mistaken, Jan is in Florida; Yes? I'm located in Lake Elsinore, California. I'd love nothing more that to receive training from one with such great references, but I think the commute just might present a problem . Can you recommend some one local? Thanks, RC. st@matronics.comSubject: Re: RV-List: Tail Wheel Training RCI would also enthusiastically recommend Jan Bussell as an excellent instr uctor. I did a combined biennial check and transition to a -6A with him. My first flight in my -6A was almost a non event.Richard Dudleydo not archive rv6n@optonline.net wrote: I did my tail wheel transition training with Jan Bussell. He owns a 6 and a 6A and is in Okechobee, Fl. I was very happy with Jan and believe it wou ld have been impossible to have flown my RV6 without his expert help. The insurance co. wanted 10 hours in make and model and we did my BFR. Jan's e mail address is: janjoyce@strato.net Good luck, Bob Bales RV6 flying, 65 hrs do not archive ----- Original Message -----From: "Reginald C. Smith, Sr." Date: Saturday, November 17, 2007 12:16 amSubject: RV-List: Tail Wheel TrainingTo: rv-list@ matronics.com> > Listers',> > Does anyone know of a good place and/or perso n available to > help me transition from "Nosedrager" to "Taildrager"? I'm due > for my BFR and would like to use that training to accomplish it. > Wi th all the 'Hubbub' about the Nose Wheel Situation, I'd like > to have that option; since I'm at that point in my 6(A) > construction. I'm also consid ering purchasing a Taildrager, so > suggestions are well received and most welcome. Thanks.> > RC.> > RV-6(A)? Tail, Wings> Looking for Fuselage> Want to FLY NOW> > > __________________________________________________________ _______> Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You!> http://www.reallivemoms. com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/connect.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_newways_1120 07 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:36:33 PM PST US From: "Reginald C. Smith, Sr." Subject: RE: RV-List: Tail Wheel Training Thanks, Ralph. I also question the idea of a Tail wheel plane as an interm ediate during my 6A construction. I found a Biplane that seems to 'scratch my itch' which is a tailwheel, and I'm curious to see how much of a challe nge it might present. I guess that'll be answered during training. RC. From: rgf@dcn.davis.ca.usTo: rv-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: RV-List: Tai l Wheel TrainingDate: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 07:20:05 -0800 Sounds like you can build either a 6 or 6A? I can't advise as to where to get tailwheel instruction, but do have an opinion on the choice between the two. I've got over a hundred hours in tail wheels (mostly a J-3, but also Aeronc a and Decathlon). Nevertheless when I started looking for a small two-plac e certificated plane to buy a few years ago I never seriously considered a tailwheel airplane. I wanted to fly cross-country, and knew that after sev eral hours of being bounced around in hot, lumpy air, the last thing I want ed to try was landing a tailwheel in a 10- to 15-knot cross-wind somewhere. I ended up getting an Aircoupe which I still have while I start building a -9A. By no means am I dissing tailwheel aircraft. I'm just saying for me, as mu ch as I enjoyed my time in the Cub and others, I knew I was not a hot-shot pilot and wanted the greater ease of a trike-gear plane. So I would urge y ou to get the tailwheel instruction and keep flying one for a while, then m ake a realistic decision for you and your expected flying trips. Ralph Finch From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matro nics.com] On Behalf Of Reginald C. Smith, Sr.Sent: Friday, November 16, 200 7 8:14 PMTo: rv-list@matronics.comSubject: RV-List: Tail Wheel Training Listers', Does anyone know of a good place and/or person available to help me transition from "Nosedrager" to "Taildrager"? I'm due for my BFR a nd would like to use that training to accomplish it. With all the 'Hubbub' about the Nose Wheel Situation, I'd like to have that option; since I'm at that point in my 6(A) construction. I'm also considering purchasing a Tail drager, so suggestions are well received and most welcome. Thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's FREE ! http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_1120 07 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:43:26 PM PST US From: "Reginald C. Smith, Sr." Subject: RE: RV-List: Re:Tail Wheel Training Jerry, Actually , I haven't as of yet. It's not so much about the cost as it is about the confident enjoyment received once it's complete. Kinda' like manual vs automatic transmission. Do I want to "Work-it" or just watch it work? (If ya know what I mean). From: Jerry2DT@aol.comDate: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:18:06 -0500Subject: RV-List : Re:Tail Wheel Training To: rv-list@matronics.com Have you checked into the diff in insurance cost -6a/-6? Just curious what it is... Jerry From: "Reginald C. Smith, Sr." Subject: RV-List: Tail Wheel TrainingListers', Does anyone know of a good place and/or person available to help me transition from "Nosedrager" to "Taildrager"? I'm due for my BFR and would like to use that training to accomplish it. With all the 'Hubbub' about theNose Wheel Situation, I'd like to have that option; since I'm at that point in my 6(A) construction. I'm also considering purch asing a Taildrager, sosuggestions are well received and most welcome. Thank s. RC.RV-6(A)? Tail, WingsLooking for FuselageWant to FLY NOW See what's new _________________________________________________________________ Put your friends on the big screen with Windows Vista=AE + Windows Live=99. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/shop/specialoffers.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_C PC_MediaCtr_bigscreen_102007 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:06:12 PM PST US From: "c.ennis" Subject: Re: Subject: RV-List: Nose Gear Leg Looks to me like you could save the expense and trouble of changing anythin g if you don't shorten the gear on the lower end. The whole point is to gai n an inch of clearance ahead of the nose wheel...that requires removal of t he forward bottom edge of the fork (from Van's) and the 1"shorter gear leg to match it. If there were enough thread on the old style gear legs we could just buy the new fork and hacksaw the 1"off of the gear. 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