RV-List Digest Archive

Mon 12/03/07


Total Messages Posted: 13



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 07:27 AM - Re: Vacuum Guage hookup (Tim Bryan)
     2. 08:14 AM - Re: Vacuum Guage hookup (n801bh@netzero.com)
     3. 08:17 AM - Re: Vacuum Guage hookup (Tim Bryan)
     4. 08:33 AM - Re: Vacuum Guage hookup (Tim Bryan)
     5. 08:33 AM - Re: Vacuum Guage hookup (Tim Bryan)
     6. 09:40 AM - Re: LSAs (Mike Robertson)
     7. 10:19 AM - Re: LSAs (Tracy Crook)
     8. 10:45 AM - Chinese LSA - My Bad (Valovich, Paul)
     9. 11:00 AM - Re: Chinese LSA - My Bad (Tim Bryan)
    10. 11:09 AM - Re: Chinese LSA - My Bad -> lifting for gear (Ralph E. Capen)
    11. 01:45 PM - Re: Chinese LSA - My Bad (Greg Young)
    12. 02:20 PM - Re: LSAs (Scott)
    13. 09:07 PM - Re: Chinese LSA - My Bad (bobperk90658@bellsouth.net)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:27:26 AM PST US
    From: "Tim Bryan" <n616tb@btsapps.com>
    Subject: Vacuum Guage hookup
    Ben, My suction gauge has two ports on it. One labeled V and the other labeled P. Mine is a U.M.A, Inc part number 3-200-12, PMA part. Does this make a difference? Tim _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of n801bh@netzero.com Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 9:54 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Vacuum Guage hookup IIRC, The gauge has only one port on it so the air eally isn't passing through it, all it does is sense vacuum because it is a dead end circuit.. Ben do not archive Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com -- "Tim Bryan" <n616tb@btsapps.com> wrote: Thanks everyone for the responses. I surely would have got it backwards. The question then is if the pressure (P) were to be negative then wouldn't there be air flowing through the gauge? If I don't put a filter on the vent side you say it would be OK? Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave B > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 8:26 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Vacuum Guage hookup > > > Tim, > The gyro should have a small port which goes to the gauge. The "V" is > the "vent" and the "P" is pressure (positive or negative) so the "P" > connects to the gyro. Since there is no airflow through the gauge, there > no need to connect the "V" to anything or worry about filtered air. > > Dave > > Tim Bryan wrote: > > > > > > > > I have a small vacuum gauge that has two smaller ports on it labeled V > and > > P. I assume the V is for the vacuum and the P would be the export. I > > understood there was a port on some of the other gauges that would allow > me > > to just run a hose from it to the vacuum gauge. Does this suction gauge > > need to be plumbed in series with the other gauges in order to take > > advantage of the filtered air? It has smaller ports on it so would have > to > > find a hose that would fit between the larger ports on the gauges and > the > > smaller port on the suction gauge. > > > > Any thoughts? > > Thanks > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > >================================================nbsp; (And Get Some AWESO -Matt Dralle, List========================; - The RV-List Email For========================; =======================================


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    Time: 08:14:43 AM PST US
    From: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com>
    Subject: Vacuum Guage hookup
    Tim. It has been three years since I installed mine in my experimenatl b ut if I remember correctly there was two versions. The one with a single port was for vacuum only. The one for dual purpose had two ports, My th oughts were there is a diaphram that drives the needle in the gauge. Vac uum is introduced into one side of the diaphram and that moves the needl e the correct way. If one was using a pressure system to drive the gauge s that pressure is introduced on the opposite side of the diaphram. That way one gauge could be used in both applications. If your plane is runn ing a vacuum system my guess is to hook up to the ' V ' port... do not archive Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com -- "Tim Bryan" <n616tb@btsapps.com> wrote: <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:of fice" />Ben, My suction gauge has two ports on it. One labeled V and the other label ed P. Mine is a U.M.A, Inc part number 3-200-12, PMA part. Does this make a difference? Tim From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@ma tronics.com] On Behalf Of n801bh@netzero.com Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 9:54 PM ice:smarttags" />rv-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: RV-List: Vacuum Guage hookup IIRC, The gauge has only one port on it so the air eally isn't passing t hrough it, all it does is sense vacuum because it is a dead end circuit. . Ben do not archive Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com -- "Tim Bryan" <n616tb@btsapps.com> wrote: Thanks everyone for the responses. I surely would have got it backwards . The question then is if the pressure (P) were to be negative then wouldn 't there be air flowing through the gauge? If I don't put a filter on the vent side you say it would be OK? Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave B > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 8:26 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Vacuum Guage hookup > > > Tim, > The gyro should have a small port which goes to the gauge. The "V" is > the "vent" and the "P" is pressure (positive or negative) so the "P" > connects to the gyro. Since there is no airflow through the gauge, the re > no need to connect the "V" to anything or worry about filtered air. > > Dave > > Tim Bryan wrote: > > > > > > > > I have a small vacuum gauge that has two smaller ports on it labeled V > and > > P. I assume the V is for the vacuum and the P would be the export. I > > understood there was a port on some of the other gauges that would a llow > me > > to just run a hose from it to the vacuum gauge. Does this suction g auge > > need to be plumbed in series with the other gauges in order to take > > advantage of the filtered air? It has smaller ports on it so would have > to > > find a hose that would fit between the larger ports on the gauges an d > the > > smaller port on the suction gauge. > > > > Any thoughts? > > Thanks > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > >=======================nb sp; (And Get Some AWESO -Matt Dralle, List= =======================; - The RV-List Email For=============== =========; =========== === http://www.matronics.com/contributionhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigato ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ===============


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    Time: 08:17:03 AM PST US
    From: "Tim Bryan" <n616tb@btsapps.com>
    Subject: Vacuum Guage hookup
    Ok, I got it figured out. ACS sells a fitting that goes in the back of one of the main gauges that is a T fitting. The 3/8=94 side is for the suction/ vent and a T part that is =BC=94 to go to the suction gauge. I ordered two of these ($$) so I could T into both the vent and the suction sides of the hoses. I found this diagram and fitting part numbers on ACS suction kit installation documents. Tim _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Bryan Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:25 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: Vacuum Guage hookup Ben, My suction gauge has two ports on it. One labeled V and the other labeled P. Mine is a U.M.A, Inc part number 3-200-12, PMA part. Does this make a difference? Tim _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of n801bh@netzero.com Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 9:54 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Vacuum Guage hookup IIRC, The gauge has only one port on it so the air eally isn't passing through it, all it does is sense vacuum because it is a dead end circuit.. Ben do not archive Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com -- "Tim Bryan" <n616tb@btsapps.com> wrote: Thanks everyone for the responses. I surely would have got it backwards. The question then is if the pressure (P) were to be negative then wouldn't there be air flowing through the gauge? If I don't put a filter on the vent side you say it would be OK? Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave B > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 8:26 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Vacuum Guage hookup > > > Tim, > The gyro should have a small port which goes to the gauge. The "V" is > the "vent" and the "P" is pressure (positive or negative) so the "P" > connects to the gyro. Since there is no airflow through the gauge, there > no need to connect the "V" to anything or worry about filtered air. > > Dave > > Tim Bryan wrote: > > > > > > > > I have a small vacuum gauge that has two smaller ports on it labeled V > and > > P. I assume the V is for the vacuum and the P would be the export. I > > understood there was a port on some of the other gauges that would allow > me > > to just run a hose from it to the vacuum gauge. Does this suction gauge > > need to be plumbed in series with the other gauges in order to take > > advantage of the filtered air? It has smaller ports on it so would have > to > > find a hose that would fit between the larger ports on the gauges and > the > > smaller port on the suction gauge. > > > > Any thoughts? > > Thanks > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > >=======================nbs p; (And Get Some AWESO -Matt Dralle, List======================= =; - The RV-List Email For======================== ; ============== http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 08:33:07 AM PST US
    From: "Tim Bryan" <n616tb@btsapps.com>
    Subject: Vacuum Guage hookup
    Thanks Ben, Check out this picture: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pdf/Rapco%20Vacuum%20System%20Kit.pdf _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of n801bh@netzero.com Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 10:12 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: Vacuum Guage hookup Tim. It has been three years since I installed mine in my experimenatl but if I remember correctly there was two versions. The one with a single port was for vacuum only. The one for dual purpose had two ports, My thoughts were there is a diaphram that drives the needle in the gauge. Vacuum is introduced into one side of the diaphram and that moves the needle the correct way. If one was using a pressure system to drive the gauges that pressure is introduced on the opposite side of the diaphram. That way one gauge could be used in both applications. If your plane is running a vacuum system my guess is to hook up to the ' V ' port... do not archive Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com -- "Tim Bryan" <n616tb@btsapps.com> wrote: Ben, My suction gauge has two ports on it. One labeled V and the other labeled P. Mine is a U.M.A, Inc part number 3-200-12, PMA part. Does this make a difference? Tim _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of n801bh@netzero.com Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 9:54 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Vacuum Guage hookup IIRC, The gauge has only one port on it so the air eally isn't passing through it, all it does is sense vacuum because it is a dead end circuit.. Ben do not archive Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com -- "Tim Bryan" <n616tb@btsapps.com> wrote: Thanks everyone for the responses. I surely would have got it backwards. The question then is if the pressure (P) were to be negative then wouldn't there be air flowing through the gauge? If I don't put a filter on the vent side you say it would be OK? Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave B > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 8:26 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Vacuum Guage hookup > > > Tim, > The gyro should have a small port which goes to the gauge. The "V" is > the "vent" and the "P" is pressure (positive or negative) so the "P" > connects to the gyro. Since there is no airflow through the gauge, there > no need to connect the "V" to anything or worry about filtered air. > > Dave > > Tim Bryan wrote: > > > > > > > > I have a small vacuum gauge that has two smaller ports on it labeled V > and > > P. I assume the V is for the vacuum and the P would be the export. I > > understood there was a port on some of the other gauges that would allow > me > > to just run a hose from it to the vacuum gauge. Does this suction gauge > > need to be plumbed in series with the other gauges in order to take > > advantage of the filtered air? It has smaller ports on it so would have > to > > find a hose that would fit between the larger ports on the gauges and > the > > smaller port on the suction gauge. > > > > Any thoughts? > > Thanks > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > >=======================nbsp; (And Get Some AWESO -Matt Dralle, List========================; - The RV-List Email For========================; ============== http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List http://forums.matronics.com =================================== www.matronics.com/contribution =================================== tp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List =================================== tronics.com ===================================


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    Time: 08:33:54 AM PST US
    From: "Tim Bryan" <n616tb@btsapps.com>
    Subject: Vacuum Guage hookup
    Also this one indicates as others mentioned that "V" is for the vent and "P" is the vacuum port http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/graphics/1001100INSTALLATIONGUIDE.jpg _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of n801bh@netzero.com Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 10:12 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: Vacuum Guage hookup Tim. It has been three years since I installed mine in my experimenatl but if I remember correctly there was two versions. The one with a single port was for vacuum only. The one for dual purpose had two ports, My thoughts were there is a diaphram that drives the needle in the gauge. Vacuum is introduced into one side of the diaphram and that moves the needle the correct way. If one was using a pressure system to drive the gauges that pressure is introduced on the opposite side of the diaphram. That way one gauge could be used in both applications. If your plane is running a vacuum system my guess is to hook up to the ' V ' port... do not archive Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com -- "Tim Bryan" <n616tb@btsapps.com> wrote: Ben, My suction gauge has two ports on it. One labeled V and the other labeled P. Mine is a U.M.A, Inc part number 3-200-12, PMA part. Does this make a difference? Tim _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of n801bh@netzero.com Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 9:54 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Vacuum Guage hookup IIRC, The gauge has only one port on it so the air eally isn't passing through it, all it does is sense vacuum because it is a dead end circuit.. Ben do not archive Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com -- "Tim Bryan" <n616tb@btsapps.com> wrote: Thanks everyone for the responses. I surely would have got it backwards. The question then is if the pressure (P) were to be negative then wouldn't there be air flowing through the gauge? If I don't put a filter on the vent side you say it would be OK? Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave B > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 8:26 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Vacuum Guage hookup > > > Tim, > The gyro should have a small port which goes to the gauge. The "V" is > the "vent" and the "P" is pressure (positive or negative) so the "P" > connects to the gyro. Since there is no airflow through the gauge, there > no need to connect the "V" to anything or worry about filtered air. > > Dave > > Tim Bryan wrote: > > > > > > > > I have a small vacuum gauge that has two smaller ports on it labeled V > and > > P. I assume the V is for the vacuum and the P would be the export. I > > understood there was a port on some of the other gauges that would allow > me > > to just run a hose from it to the vacuum gauge. Does this suction gauge > > need to be plumbed in series with the other gauges in order to take > > advantage of the filtered air? It has smaller ports on it so would have > to > > find a hose that would fit between the larger ports on the gauges and > the > > smaller port on the suction gauge. > > > > Any thoughts? > > Thanks > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > >=======================nbsp; (And Get Some AWESO -Matt Dralle, List========================; - The RV-List Email For========================; ============== http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List http://forums.matronics.com =================================== www.matronics.com/contribution =================================== tp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List =================================== tronics.com ===================================


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    Time: 09:40:48 AM PST US
    From: Mike Robertson <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
    Subject: LSAs
    Ralph, It depends on which category you certificate it in. If it is in the experi mental amateur-built category then it is no problem. But if you were able to get it certificated in the Light-sport category then you would have a pr oblem. In this case I don't think you will have to worry as I don't think it will qualify for the Light-Sport category, just the amateur-built catego ry. Mike Robertson Das Fed From: rgf@dcn.davis.ca.usTo: rv-list@matronics.comSubject: RV-List: LSAsDat e: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 05:49:57 -0800 Speaking of LSAs....Chinese or otherwise...Van's RV-12 got me to thinking. That doesn't happen often and when it does, I take advantage of it. I gotta think that the RV-12 could fly faster than the LSA speed limit (120 kts) with maybe just a coarser pitched prop. If so, would it be legit to: - build or buy an LSA--say Van's--switch the prop, and fly it out of the LS A class with your PP-ASEL and current medical - then if you don't want to renew your medical for some reason, simply swit ch the prop back again to be below 120 kts Can the same plane, with a minor alteration, switch between LSA and not? Ralph Finch _________________________________________________________________ You keep typing, we keep giving. Download Messenger and join the i=92m Init iative now.


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    Time: 10:19:20 AM PST US
    From: "Tracy Crook" <tracy@rotaryaviation.com>
    Subject: Re: LSAs
    D'oh, You're probably right Scott. I still stand by the rest of my blasphemies though : ) Tracy On Dec 2, 2007 6:10 PM, Scott <acepilot@bloomer.net> wrote: > > I believe he was referring to 48" of pitch, not prop diameter ;) > > Scott > http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/ > Gotta Fly or Gonna Die > Building RV-4 (Super Slow Build Version) > > > Tracy Crook wrote: > > > > > > > BTW, 48" prop? Wow, I'm not surprised that the 52" outperformed it in > > almost every way. Maybe I'm thinking of a different Aircoupe. (one > > with C85 engine?) A 48" prop is way too short for the one I'm > > familiar with. > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:45:16 AM PST US
    Subject: Chinese LSA - My Bad
    From: "Valovich, Paul" <pvalovich@dcscorp.com>
    Cheeeeez! I never thought my original post would generate so many responses. Wish I could take it back so we could focus on RV building. But I guess it's like saying the f-word in front of your mother - you can't take it back. Anyway, I'm finishing up the cockpit wiring and trying to figure out a good way to raise the fuselage (-8A) to put her on the gear. Anyone have words about what worked - and what didn't? I'm contemplating the use of the engine hoist with a cable wrapped around the roll bar, but that seems too rough and perhaps unstable. Booger


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    Time: 11:00:02 AM PST US
    From: "Tim Bryan" <n616tb@btsapps.com>
    Subject: Chinese LSA - My Bad
    I did it this way, but with the engine mount. Mine was a -6 however. It doesn't really weight much unless you have the engine mounted. At that point I would use the hook on the top of the engine. Tim _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Valovich, Paul Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 12:42 PM Subject: RV-List: Chinese LSA - My Bad Cheeeeez! I never thought my original post would generate so many responses. Wish I could take it back so we could focus on RV building. But I guess it's like saying the f-word in front of your mother - you can't take it back. Anyway, I'm finishing up the cockpit wiring and trying to figure out a good way to raise the fuselage (-8A) to put her on the gear. Anyone have words about what worked - and what didn't? I'm contemplating the use of the engine hoist with a cable wrapped around the roll bar, but that seems too rough and perhaps unstable. Booger


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    Time: 11:09:22 AM PST US
    From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Chinese LSA - My Bad -> lifting for gear
    I had success with using an engine hoist and the engine mount (sans engine) and later the engine mount to fuselage upper bolt holes - same engine hoist. My intent was to put the stress in the same place that would see it in flight...... -----Original Message----- >From: "Valovich, Paul" <pvalovich@dcscorp.com> >Sent: Dec 3, 2007 1:41 PM >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV-List: Chinese LSA - My Bad > >Cheeeeez! I never thought my original post would generate so many >responses. Wish I could take it back so we could focus on RV building. >But I guess it's like saying the f-word in front of your mother - you >can't take it back. > > > >Anyway, I'm finishing up the cockpit wiring and trying to figure out a >good way to raise the fuselage (-8A) to put her on the gear. Anyone have >words about what worked - and what didn't? I'm contemplating the use of >the engine hoist with a cable wrapped around the roll bar, but that >seems too rough and perhaps unstable. > >Booger >


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    Time: 01:45:34 PM PST US
    From: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com>
    Subject: Chinese LSA - My Bad
    It is not recommended to use the engine hook to lift any more than the engine itself. All the weight is going through one small section of the engine case. Consider the consequences of cracking the case - it may hold or may not but is it worth the risk? Your choice, your money. Regards, Greg Young _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Bryan Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 12:55 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Chinese LSA - My Bad I did it this way, but with the engine mount. Mine was a -6 however. It doesn't really weight much unless you have the engine mounted. At that point I would use the hook on the top of the engine. Tim _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Valovich, Paul Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 12:42 PM Subject: RV-List: Chinese LSA - My Bad Cheeeeez! I never thought my original post would generate so many responses. Wish I could take it back so we could focus on RV building. But I guess it's like saying the f-word in front of your mother - you can't take it back. Anyway, I'm finishing up the cockpit wiring and trying to figure out a good way to raise the fuselage (-8A) to put her on the gear. Anyone have words about what worked - and what didn't? I'm contemplating the use of the engine hoist with a cable wrapped around the roll bar, but that seems too rough and perhaps unstable. Booger http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List http://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 02:20:47 PM PST US
    From: Scott <acepilot@bloomer.net>
    Subject: Re: LSAs
    Not to worry! I have days like that too! ;) Scott http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/ Gotta Fly or Gonna Die Building RV-4 (Super Slow Build Version) Tracy Crook wrote: > D'oh, You're probably right Scott. I still stand by the rest of > my blasphemies though : ) > > Tracy > > On Dec 2, 2007 6:10 PM, Scott <acepilot@bloomer.net > <mailto:acepilot@bloomer.net>> wrote: > > <mailto:acepilot@bloomer.net> > > > I believe he was referring to 48" of pitch, not prop diameter ;) > > Scott > http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/ > Gotta Fly or Gonna Die > Building RV-4 (Super Slow Build Version) > > > Tracy Crook wrote: > > > > > > > BTW, 48" prop? Wow, I'm not surprised that the 52" outperformed > it in > > almost every way. Maybe I'm thinking of a different Aircoupe. > (one > > with C85 engine?) A 48" prop is way too short for the one I'm > > familiar with. > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:07:27 PM PST US
    From: bobperk90658@bellsouth.net
    Subject: Re: Chinese LSA - My Bad
    You could build a 2X4 rack and lift it using wide ratcheting cargo straps slung under the fuselage. Or you could use the engine hoist and wide cargo straps and lift one side at a time hooking it on the frame one step at a time. Walking it up to the level where you could get the gear on. Just a thought. Have you got an old swing set? By the way wash your mouth out with soap. Bob Perkinson RV-9 -------------- Original message from "Valovich, Paul" <pvalovich@dcscorp.com>: -------------- Cheeeeez! I never thought my original post would generate so many responses. Wish I could take it back so we could focus on RV building. But I guess its like saying the f-word in front of your mother you cant take it back. Anyway, Im finishing up the cockpit wiring and trying to figure out a good way to raise the fuselage (-8A) to put her on the gear. Anyone have words about what worked and what didnt? Im contemplating the use of the engine hoist with a cable wrapped around the roll bar, but that seems too rough and perhaps unstable. Booger <html> <!-- BEGIN WEBMAIL STATIONERY --> <head></head> <body> <!-- WEBMAIL STATIONERY noneset --> <DIV></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">You could build a 2X4 rack and lift it using wide ratcheting cargo straps slung under the fuselage.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Or you could use the engine hoist and wide cargo straps and lift one side at a time hooking it on the frame one step at a time.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Walking it up to the level where you could get the gear on.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Just a thought.</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Have you got&nbsp;an old swing set?</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">By the way wash your mouth out with soap.</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">&nbsp;</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Bob Perkinson</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">RV-9</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">&nbsp;</P><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message from "Valovich, Paul" &lt;pvalovich@dcscorp.com&gt;: -------------- <BR><BR> <META content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)" name=Generator> <STYLE> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-compose; font-family:Arial; color:windowtext;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </STYLE> <DIV class=Section1> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Cheeeeez! I never thought my original post would generate so many responses. Wish I could take it back so we could focus on RV building. But I guess its like saying the f-word in front of your mother you cant take it back.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Anyway, Im finishing up the cockpit wiring and trying to figure out a good way to raise the fuselage (-8A) to put her on the gear. Anyone have words about what worked and what didnt? Im contemplating the use of the engine hoist with a cable wrapped around the roll bar, but that seems too rough and perhaps unstable.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Booger<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV><PRE><B><FONT face="courier new,courier" size=2 color000000?> </B></FONT></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE> <!-- END WEBMAIL STATIONERY --> <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>




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