---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 12/05/07: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:49 AM - Dang B1rds (Wheeler North) 2. 09:46 AM - Re: Dang B1rds (Konrad L. Werner) 3. 11:06 AM - Re: Dang B1rds (Ralph Finch) 4. 12:22 PM - hidden antennas (Lincoln Keill) 5. 12:55 PM - Re: hidden antennas (Marty Helller) 6. 01:44 PM - Re: hidden antennas (Ron Lee) 7. 07:20 PM - Re: hidden antennas (dougpflyrv@aol.com) 8. 10:41 PM - Re: Dang B1rds (Reuven Silberman) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:49:52 AM PST US From: "Wheeler North" Subject: RV-List: Dang B1rds Well, I got me another n-b1rd in-flight midair collision yesterday. I've no idea if it was a Chinese b1rd, or if it was a tail dragger, had a sliding canopy, was painted with self-etching primer or ran auto gas in its nuclear reactor because I never even knew it happened until I starting cleaning the airplane and found goo on the prop and spatters on the cowl. Guess I need to dig the air cleaner out to look for extra wings and such. Sorry 'bout that Mrs. Mama B1rd.... Do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:46:02 AM PST US From: "Konrad L. Werner" Subject: Re: RV-List: Dang B1rds You may also look inside the upper cowl to see if there is a cooked little b1rdy in there above the cylinders, thereby restricting airflow? ----- Original Message ----- From: Wheeler North To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:46 AM Subject: RV-List: Dang B1rds Well, I got me another n-b1rd in-flight midair collision yesterday. I've no idea if it was a Chinese b1rd, or if it was a tail dragger, had a sliding canopy, was painted with self-etching primer or ran auto gas in its nuclear reactor because I never even knew it happened until I starting cleaning the airplane and found goo on the prop and spatters on the cowl. Guess I need to dig the air cleaner out to look for extra wings and such. Sorry 'bout that Mrs. Mama B1rd.... Do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:06:46 AM PST US From: "Ralph Finch" Subject: RE: RV-List: Dang B1rds Maybe this will work: http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=24147 -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 8:47 AM Subject: RV-List: Dang B1rds Well, I got me another n-b1rd in-flight midair collision yesterday. I've no idea if it was a Chinese b1rd, or if it was a tail dragger, had a sliding canopy, was painted with self-etching primer or ran auto gas in its nuclear reactor because I never even knew it happened until I starting cleaning the airplane and found goo on the prop and spatters on the cowl. Guess I need to dig the air cleaner out to look for extra wings and such. Sorry 'bout that Mrs. Mama B1rd.... ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:22:56 PM PST US From: Lincoln Keill Subject: RV-List: hidden antennas Anyone -- Getting my quickbuild wings next month and am planning wire runs through wing before I close it up and want to hide the following antennas -- VHF COMM, VOR/LOC, GS (glide slope), and MB (marker beacon). I'll have a normal VHF COMM wire whip and XPNDR antenna on the belly and a GPS antenna on the glareshield or back deck for VFR operations. ** Anyone have suggestions for which VOR/LOC antennas (dipole or grounded) work best in wingtips? Bob Archer's stuff? Van's copper foil? ** Anyone know if Van's VHF COMM copper foil on the windscreen set-up works? ** Anyone ever mount a GS or VHF COMM diploe antenna in a main gear leg fairing? ** Does 40" of foil in a wintip work for a marker beacon antenna? Sorry for asking this stuff for the millionith time. Thanks. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:55:39 PM PST US From: Marty Helller Subject: RE: RV-List: hidden antennas You may want to consider the need for marker beacons.... the FAA is turnin g many off, and your GPS provides you with positioning. Marty Heller RV-7; installing interior systems (day job supports FAA Navigation systems) RV-List: hidden antennasTo: RV-List@matronics.com Anyone -- Getting my quickbuild wings next month and am planning wire runs through wi ng before I close it up and want to hide the following antennas -- VHF COMM , VOR/LOC, GS (glide slope), and MB (marker beacon). I'll have a normal VH F COMM wire whip and XPNDR antenna on the belly and a GPS antenna on the gl areshield or back deck for VFR operations. ** Anyone have suggestions for which VOR/LOC antennas (dipole or grounded) work best in wingtips? Bob Archer's stuff? Van's copper foil? ** Anyone know if Van's VHF COMM copper foil on the windscreen set-up works ? ** Anyone ever mount a GS or VHF COMM diploe antenna in a main gear leg fai ring? ** Does 40" of foil in a wintip work for a marker beacon antenna? Sorry for asking this stuff for the millionith time. Thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/connect.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_newways_1120 07 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:44:15 PM PST US From: "Ron Lee" Subject: Re: RV-List: hidden antennas Do a list search for antenna. I have the aluminum flate plate strip VOR/GS antenna in a wingtip and it works fine. Can't remember the name. Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: Lincoln Keill To: RV-List@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 1:20 PM Subject: RV-List: hidden antennas Anyone -- Getting my quickbuild wings next month and am planning wire runs through wing before I close it up and want to hide the following antennas -- VHF COMM, VOR/LOC, GS (glide slope), and MB (marker beacon). I'll have a normal VHF COMM wire whip and XPNDR antenna on the belly and a GPS antenna on the glareshield or back deck for VFR operations. ** Anyone have suggestions for which VOR/LOC antennas (dipole or grounded) work best in wingtips? Bob Archer's stuff? Van's copper foil? ** Anyone know if Van's VHF COMM copper foil on the windscreen set-up works? ** Anyone ever mount a GS or VHF COMM diploe antenna in a main gear leg fairing? ** Does 40" of foil in a wintip work for a marker beacon antenna? Sorry for asking this stuff for the millionith time. Thanks. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:20:35 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: hidden antennas From: dougpflyrv@aol.com THAT IS THE BOB ARCHER ANTENNA IN YOUR WINGTIP RON. WE HAVE USED IT IN OUR 7A AND GOT GOOD RESULTS. DOUG PRESTON -----Original Message----- From: Ron Lee Sent: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 3:42 pm Subject: Re: RV-List: hidden antennas Do a list search for antenna.? I have the aluminum flate plate strip VOR/GS antenna in a wingtip and it works fine.? Can't remember the name. ? Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: Lincoln Keill Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 1:20 PM Subject: RV-List: hidden antennas Anyone -- ? Getting my quickbuild wings next month and am planning wire runs through wing before I close it up and want to hide the following antennas -- VHF COMM, VOR/LOC, GS (glide slope), and MB (marker beacon).? I'll have a normal VHF COMM wire whip and XPNDR antenna on the belly and a GPS antenna on the glareshield or back deck for VFR operations. ? ** Anyone have suggestions for which VOR/LOC antennas (dipole or grounded) work best in wingtips?? Bob Archer's stuff?? Van's copper foil? ? ** Anyone know if Van's VHF COMM copper foil on the windscreen set-up works? ? ** Anyone ever mount a GS or VHF COMM diploe antenna in a main gear leg fairing? ? ** Does 40" of foil in a wintip work for a marker beacon antenna? ? Sorry for asking this stuff for the millionith time.? Thanks. ? ? ? href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:41:14 PM PST US From: Reuven Silberman Subject: Re: RV-List: Dang B1rds I believe that makes 3 for Mr. North and 949AA. Well, I got me another n-b1rd in-flight midair collision yesterday. I've no idea if it was a Chinese b1rd, or if it was a tail dragger, had a sliding canopy, was painted with self-etching primer or ran auto gas in its nuclear reactor because I never even knew it happened until I starting cleaning the airplane and found goo on the prop and spatters on the cowl. Guess I need to dig the air cleaner out to look for extra wings and such. Sorry 'bout that Mrs. Mama B1rd.... 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