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1. 08:02 AM - Re: Off Topic: Hanger Lighting (darnpilot@aol.com)
2. 08:27 AM - Re: Required RV Tools (MLWynn@aol.com)
3. 08:34 AM - Re: Off Topic: Hanger Lighting (Mauri)
4. 09:50 AM - Re: Wheel Pants fairings (Ed)
5. 10:05 AM - Re: Off Topic: Hanger Lighting (Chuck Jensen)
6. 04:39 PM - Re: Required RV Tools (Ralph Hoover)
7. 09:47 PM - Re: Trio EZ-Pilot or Altitude Hold (bobperk90658@bellsouth.net)
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Subject: | Re: Off Topic: Hanger Lighting |
Darwin:
Can you describe, or better yet provide a brand/photo of these halogen fixtures?
I need to add lights in my hanger.? I have a standard T-hanger with?three (3)?-
two (2) 8' fluorescent tubes fixtures, mounted on the ceiling (appx 16' high).?
Inadequate to say the least.
Thanks.
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Darwin N. Barrie <ktlkrn@cox.net>
Sent: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 8:55 am
Subject: Re: RV-List: Off Topic: Hanger Lighting
Living in a residential airpark I've got to see a variety of lighting. All of the
hangars on my street are the same dimensions, 45'x40', 15' ceilings.? Stock
lighting was 6 -2 bulb 4' flourescent fixtures. This is inadequate. One of my
neighbors went with 6 -4 bulb 4' fixtures and this improved things greatly but
still wasn't ideal.
?
By far the best lighting I've seen is large Halogen fixtures. My next door neighbor
has them and his lighting is unequalled. Another followed his lead but added
a couple of extra fixtures. He has light.
?
Another huge factor is the floor. My floor is epoxy and gray in color with a slight
gloss finish. My next door neigbor (with the halogens) floor is tan, leaning
toward a more yellowish tint with very little gloss.?Although the lights are
white the hangar has a yellowish tint when the lights are on.
?
The other neighbor who added halogens has a light blue floor with light gloss.
He has the best lighting on the block.
?
If doing again, I'd go with the halogens despite the added cost. The lighting is
incredible. The fixtures hang down from the ceiling making bulb changes although
my neighbor hasn't had any bulb failures in 6 years. Good lighting makes
things so much nicer. I'm going to go with the halogens before next summer.
?
Darwin N. Barrie
Chandler AZ
RV7 N717EE
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Subject: | Re: Required RV Tools |
this needs to be archived.
Michael Wynn
RV 8
Used almost all of these tools, just in the manner described.
Add:
Pneumatic rivet squeezer:
Tool designed to accurately remove 1/4 moon sized pieces of your
left index finger.
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Subject: | Re: Off Topic: Hanger Lighting |
Check out:
http://www.lightmart.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=18842
Mauri
RV-8 Finishing
----- Original Message -----
From: darnpilot@aol.com
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Off Topic: Hanger Lighting
Darwin:
Can you describe, or better yet provide a brand/photo of these halogen
fixtures?
I need to add lights in my hanger. I have a standard T-hanger with
three (3) - two (2) 8' fluorescent tubes fixtures, mounted on the
ceiling (appx 16' high). Inadequate to say the least.
Thanks.
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Darwin N. Barrie <ktlkrn@cox.net>
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 8:55 am
Subject: Re: RV-List: Off Topic: Hanger Lighting
Living in a residential airpark I've got to see a variety of lighting.
All of the hangars on my street are the same dimensions, 45'x40', 15'
ceilings. Stock lighting was 6 -2 bulb 4' flourescent fixtures. This is
inadequate. One of my neighbors went with 6 -4 bulb 4' fixtures and this
improved things greatly but still wasn't ideal.
By far the best lighting I've seen is large Halogen fixtures. My next
door neighbor has them and his lighting is unequalled. Another followed
his lead but added a couple of extra fixtures. He has light.
Another huge factor is the floor. My floor is epoxy and gray in color
with a slight gloss finish. My next door neigbor (with the halogens)
floor is tan, leaning toward a more yellowish tint with very little
gloss. Although the lights are white the hangar has a yellowish tint
when the lights are on.
The other neighbor who added halogens has a light blue floor with
light gloss. He has the best lighting on the block.
If doing again, I'd go with the halogens despite the added cost. The
lighting is incredible. The fixtures hang down from the ceiling making
bulb changes although my neighbor hasn't had any bulb failures in 6
years. Good lighting makes things so much nicer. I'm going to go with
the halogens before next summer.
Darwin N. Barrie
Chandler AZ
RV7 N717EE
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12/12/2007 11:29 AM
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Subject: | Re: Wheel Pants fairings |
Negative, Sam James. Tracy has pants from Lightspeed Engineering. Klaus
developed them to go fast on EZs. He sells them on his website. Don't
know the price without looking.
Tracy made the original fiberglass gear leg fairings and I think his
daughter still offers them along with his side mounted throttle
quadrant. Check the yeller pages for contact info.
Pax,
Ed Holyoke
>
> I know that Tracy Saylor and most of the other "fast" RV's used Sam
> James wheelpants, which were essentially the same price as Van's
> offering, but didn't include the mounting hardware that Van's supplies
> with theirs.
>
>
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Subject: | Off Topic: Hanger Lighting |
Hangar lighting is simple and cheap...good hangar lighting is a bit more
complex and costs a little more.
Chuck Jensen
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
darnpilot@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Off Topic: Hanger Lighting
Darwin:
Can you describe, or better yet provide a brand/photo of these halogen
fixtures?
I need to add lights in my hanger. I have a standard T-hanger with
three (3) - two (2) 8' fluorescent tubes fixtures, mounted on the
ceiling (appx 16' high). Inadequate to say the least.
Thanks.
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Darwin N. Barrie <ktlkrn@cox.net>
Sent: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 8:55 am
Subject: Re: RV-List: Off Topic: Hanger Lighting
Living in a residential airpark I've got to see a variety of lighting.
All of the hangars on my street are the same dimensions, 45'x40', 15'
ceilings. Stock lighting was 6 -2 bulb 4' flourescent fixtures. This is
inadequate. One of my neighbors went with 6 -4 bulb 4' fixtures and this
improved things greatly but still wasn't ideal.
By far the best lighting I've seen is large Halogen fixtures. My next
door neighbor has them and his lighting is unequalled. Another followed
his lead but added a couple of extra fixtures. He has light.
Another huge factor is the floor. My floor is epoxy and gray in color
with a slight gloss finish. My next door neigbor (with the halogens)
floor is tan, leaning toward a more yellowish tint with very little
gloss. Although the lights are white the hangar has a yellowish tint
when the lights are on.
The other neighbor who added halogens has a light blue floor with light
gloss. He has the best lighting on the block.
If doing again, I'd go with the halogens despite the added cost. The
lighting is incredible. The fixtures hang down from the ceiling making
bulb changes although my neighbor hasn't had any bulb failures in 6
years. Good lighting makes things so much nicer. I'm going to go with
the halogens before next summer.
Darwin N. Barrie
Chandler AZ
RV7 N717EE
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Subject: | Re: Required RV Tools |
The very same tool will both punch and dimple a skin next to that
freshly match drilled hole and of course violate edge distances in the
process. :) Of course I only know that from this list. NOT!
Add:
Pneumatic rivet squeezer:
Tool designed to accurately remove 1/4 moon sized pieces of your
left index finger.
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Ralph C. Hoover
RV7A
hooverra at verizon dot net
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Subject: | Re: Trio EZ-Pilot or Altitude Hold |
Sam,
You know that the accuracy of the GPS coupled to the autopilot is probably what
caused the Brazilian GOL 737, and the Embraer Legacy 600 Collision in October
06 both were at 37,000 feet and on opposing courses between Brasilia and Manause,
both probably used the airport coordinates in a common data base. There
are probably not more than 75 airplanes in the air in northern Brasil at one time.
Sometimes being accurate down to the micron is not good, and being able
to fly an offset course is good. The Trio will do that easily all day long.
Just a thought. Trying to justify being a sloppy pilot }:>)
Bob Perkinson
I still marvel at how a sub-$2000 autopilot can hold my plane within a
wingspan of the course line with an inexpensive handheld GPS providing
the data! How many King Airs and Citations can match that? :-)
Sam Buchanan
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GPS coupled to the autopilot is probably what caused the Brazilian GOL 737,
and the Embraer Legacy 600 Collision in October 06 both were at 37,000 feet and
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the data! How many King Airs and Citations can match that? :-) <BR> <BR>
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