---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 12/12/07: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:02 AM - Re: Off Topic: Hanger Lighting (darnpilot@aol.com) 2. 08:27 AM - Re: Required RV Tools (MLWynn@aol.com) 3. 08:34 AM - Re: Off Topic: Hanger Lighting (Mauri) 4. 09:50 AM - Re: Wheel Pants fairings (Ed) 5. 10:05 AM - Re: Off Topic: Hanger Lighting (Chuck Jensen) 6. 04:39 PM - Re: Required RV Tools (Ralph Hoover) 7. 09:47 PM - Re: Trio EZ-Pilot or Altitude Hold (bobperk90658@bellsouth.net) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:02:27 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: Off Topic: Hanger Lighting From: darnpilot@aol.com Darwin: Can you describe, or better yet provide a brand/photo of these halogen fixtures? I need to add lights in my hanger.? I have a standard T-hanger with?three (3)?- two (2) 8' fluorescent tubes fixtures, mounted on the ceiling (appx 16' high).? Inadequate to say the least. Thanks. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Darwin N. Barrie Sent: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 8:55 am Subject: Re: RV-List: Off Topic: Hanger Lighting Living in a residential airpark I've got to see a variety of lighting. All of the hangars on my street are the same dimensions, 45'x40', 15' ceilings.? Stock lighting was 6 -2 bulb 4' flourescent fixtures. This is inadequate. One of my neighbors went with 6 -4 bulb 4' fixtures and this improved things greatly but still wasn't ideal. ? By far the best lighting I've seen is large Halogen fixtures. My next door neighbor has them and his lighting is unequalled. Another followed his lead but added a couple of extra fixtures. He has light. ? Another huge factor is the floor. My floor is epoxy and gray in color with a slight gloss finish. My next door neigbor (with the halogens) floor is tan, leaning toward a more yellowish tint with very little gloss.?Although the lights are white the hangar has a yellowish tint when the lights are on. ? The other neighbor who added halogens has a light blue floor with light gloss. He has the best lighting on the block. ? If doing again, I'd go with the halogens despite the added cost. The lighting is incredible. The fixtures hang down from the ceiling making bulb changes although my neighbor hasn't had any bulb failures in 6 years. Good lighting makes things so much nicer. I'm going to go with the halogens before next summer. ? Darwin N. Barrie Chandler AZ RV7 N717EE ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:27:52 AM PST US From: MLWynn@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Required RV Tools this needs to be archived. Michael Wynn RV 8 Used almost all of these tools, just in the manner described. Add: Pneumatic rivet squeezer: Tool designed to accurately remove 1/4 moon sized pieces of your left index finger. **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:34:17 AM PST US From: "Mauri" Subject: Re: RV-List: Off Topic: Hanger Lighting Check out: http://www.lightmart.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=18842 Mauri RV-8 Finishing ----- Original Message ----- From: darnpilot@aol.com To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 8:58 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Off Topic: Hanger Lighting Darwin: Can you describe, or better yet provide a brand/photo of these halogen fixtures? I need to add lights in my hanger. I have a standard T-hanger with three (3) - two (2) 8' fluorescent tubes fixtures, mounted on the ceiling (appx 16' high). Inadequate to say the least. Thanks. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Darwin N. Barrie To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 8:55 am Subject: Re: RV-List: Off Topic: Hanger Lighting Living in a residential airpark I've got to see a variety of lighting. All of the hangars on my street are the same dimensions, 45'x40', 15' ceilings. Stock lighting was 6 -2 bulb 4' flourescent fixtures. This is inadequate. One of my neighbors went with 6 -4 bulb 4' fixtures and this improved things greatly but still wasn't ideal. By far the best lighting I've seen is large Halogen fixtures. My next door neighbor has them and his lighting is unequalled. Another followed his lead but added a couple of extra fixtures. He has light. Another huge factor is the floor. My floor is epoxy and gray in color with a slight gloss finish. My next door neigbor (with the halogens) floor is tan, leaning toward a more yellowish tint with very little gloss. Although the lights are white the hangar has a yellowish tint when the lights are on. The other neighbor who added halogens has a light blue floor with light gloss. He has the best lighting on the block. If doing again, I'd go with the halogens despite the added cost. The lighting is incredible. The fixtures hang down from the ceiling making bulb changes although my neighbor hasn't had any bulb failures in 6 years. Good lighting makes things so much nicer. I'm going to go with the halogens before next summer. Darwin N. Barrie Chandler AZ RV7 N717EE ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 12/12/2007 11:29 AM ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:50:49 AM PST US From: Ed Subject: Re: RV-List: Wheel Pants fairings Negative, Sam James. Tracy has pants from Lightspeed Engineering. Klaus developed them to go fast on EZs. He sells them on his website. Don't know the price without looking. Tracy made the original fiberglass gear leg fairings and I think his daughter still offers them along with his side mounted throttle quadrant. Check the yeller pages for contact info. Pax, Ed Holyoke > > I know that Tracy Saylor and most of the other "fast" RV's used Sam > James wheelpants, which were essentially the same price as Van's > offering, but didn't include the mounting hardware that Van's supplies > with theirs. > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:05:48 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Off Topic: Hanger Lighting From: "Chuck Jensen" Hangar lighting is simple and cheap...good hangar lighting is a bit more complex and costs a little more. Chuck Jensen -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of darnpilot@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 10:58 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Off Topic: Hanger Lighting Darwin: Can you describe, or better yet provide a brand/photo of these halogen fixtures? I need to add lights in my hanger. I have a standard T-hanger with three (3) - two (2) 8' fluorescent tubes fixtures, mounted on the ceiling (appx 16' high). Inadequate to say the least. Thanks. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Darwin N. Barrie Sent: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 8:55 am Subject: Re: RV-List: Off Topic: Hanger Lighting Living in a residential airpark I've got to see a variety of lighting. All of the hangars on my street are the same dimensions, 45'x40', 15' ceilings. Stock lighting was 6 -2 bulb 4' flourescent fixtures. This is inadequate. One of my neighbors went with 6 -4 bulb 4' fixtures and this improved things greatly but still wasn't ideal. By far the best lighting I've seen is large Halogen fixtures. My next door neighbor has them and his lighting is unequalled. Another followed his lead but added a couple of extra fixtures. He has light. Another huge factor is the floor. My floor is epoxy and gray in color with a slight gloss finish. My next door neigbor (with the halogens) floor is tan, leaning toward a more yellowish tint with very little gloss. Although the lights are white the hangar has a yellowish tint when the lights are on. The other neighbor who added halogens has a light blue floor with light gloss. He has the best lighting on the block. If doing again, I'd go with the halogens despite the added cost. The lighting is incredible. The fixtures hang down from the ceiling making bulb changes although my neighbor hasn't had any bulb failures in 6 years. Good lighting makes things so much nicer. I'm going to go with the halogens before next summer. Darwin N. Barrie Chandler AZ RV7 N717EE _____ ! ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:39:11 PM PST US From: Ralph Hoover Subject: Re: RV-List: Required RV Tools The very same tool will both punch and dimple a skin next to that freshly match drilled hole and of course violate edge distances in the process. :) Of course I only know that from this list. NOT! Add: Pneumatic rivet squeezer: Tool designed to accurately remove 1/4 moon sized pieces of your left index finger. -- Ralph C. Hoover RV7A hooverra at verizon dot net ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:47:23 PM PST US From: bobperk90658@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: RV-List: Trio EZ-Pilot or Altitude Hold Sam, You know that the accuracy of the GPS coupled to the autopilot is probably what caused the Brazilian GOL 737, and the Embraer Legacy 600 Collision in October 06 both were at 37,000 feet and on opposing courses between Brasilia and Manause, both probably used the airport coordinates in a common data base. There are probably not more than 75 airplanes in the air in northern Brasil at one time. Sometimes being accurate down to the micron is not good, and being able to fly an offset course is good. The Trio will do that easily all day long. Just a thought. Trying to justify being a sloppy pilot }:>) Bob Perkinson I still marvel at how a sub-$2000 autopilot can hold my plane within a wingspan of the course line with an inexpensive handheld GPS providing the data! How many King Airs and Citations can match that? :-) Sam Buchanan
 

Sam,

You know that the accuracy of the GPS coupled to the autopilot is probably what caused the Brazilian GOL 737, and the Embraer Legacy 600 Collision in October 06 both were at 37,000 feet and on opposing courses between Brasilia and Manause, both probably used the airport coordinates in a common data base.  There are probably not more than 75 airplanes in the air in northern Brasil at one time.  Sometimes being accurate down to the micron is not good, and being able to fly an offset course is good.  The Trio will do that easily all day long.  Just a thought.  Trying to justify being a sloppy pilot }:> )

 

Bob Perkinson

 


 I still marvel at how a sub-$2000 autopilot can hold my plane within a 
wingspan of the course line with an inexpensive handheld GPS providing 
the data! How many King Airs and Citations can match that? :-) 
 
Sam Buchanan 
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