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1. 06:37 AM - Re: Wheel pants fairings etc. (Bob)
2. 09:04 AM - Test 2 (John Jessen)
3. 11:39 AM - Re: MT-Prop Governor (Randy Lervold)
4. 11:40 AM - Re: Test 2 (Tom Gummo)
5. 12:33 PM - Re: Test 2 (John Jessen)
6. 12:33 PM - Re: Test 2 (Konrad L. Werner)
7. 02:59 PM - Just a Few Van's Belt Buckles.. (gbrasch)
8. 06:10 PM - Tail Dragger Towbar Question (rveighta)
9. 06:16 PM - Re: MT-Prop Governor (Bobby Hester)
10. 06:22 PM - Re: Tail Dragger Towbar Question (Kyle Boatright)
11. 06:39 PM - Re: Tail Dragger Towbar Question (rv6n@optonline.net)
12. 09:03 PM - Re: MT-Prop Governor (Paul Rice)
13. 09:34 PM - Re: MT-Prop Governor (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
14. 09:48 PM - Re: Just a Few Van's Belt Buckles.. (Vanremog@aol.com)
15. 10:11 PM - Re: MT-Prop Governor (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Wheel pants fairings etc. |
At 11:03 AM 12/16/07, you wrote:
>Other wise, can some one tell me how difficult would be to make my
>own.....Those with the talent to do this, can send me photos, and
>'details of how to do it etc...
Bert
You are going to have to buy some technical books on "how to" not
only for fiberglass but for building in general. This list is good,
but the books will provide pictures and step by step instructions.
I was reading one of Tony Bingilis's books last night about this very
topic. Of course there are other books by other authors. Check with
Andy Gold for some good ones (he is on the list, RV Bookstore).
As far as how hard it is, once again that is a personal question. I
find working with fiberglass very easy and I am fairly good at it,
and that comes from years of practice. I would have no problem
making wheel pants, but for me I would estimate 300 hours of work and
a cost of about $150.00 for materials and equipment.
Buying from Van's seems to be the way to go, my time is worth more
than 50 cents an hour (assuming Van's wheel pants cost approx
$300.00!) If you are trying to save money and you have plenty of
time on your hands, then making your own is the way to go.
Bob
RV6 "Wicked Witch of the West"
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Test 2
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| Subject: | Re: MT-Prop Governor |
Mark,
The governor may well need to be updated, but the surging you mention
can also be caused by the fine pitch stop on the prop being too fine.
The way to test it is to do a static full power run-up. The prop should
not turn more than around 2625 rpm, 2640 tops. If it does, adjust the
fine pitch stop to a slightly courser setting.
Randy Lervold
Camas, WA
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From: Fiveonepw@aol.com
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 10:23 PM
Subject: RV-List: MT-Prop Governor
I recently test flighted a new RV with an Aerosport IO-360, Hartzell
BA prop and MT governor, and the prop would surge approximately 150-200
rpms about once per second under takeoff & climb power. Pretty darn
interesting on a first flight. After calling Hartzell (they new about
it and suggested calling Vans), Vans (the tech guy I talked to seemed a
bit evasive, but gave me MTs phone#), then MT, I finally learned that
any of their governors with a model # with anything earlier than an -F
suffix has to be returned for modification to an -F series level. This
particular governor was a -B series purchased from Vans about 16-18
months ago. Off to MT in DeLand Florida it went and was back in about
10 days- It now performs perfectly.
But- I recently visited a builder near me who had bought the same
governor, but had not yet installed it. I asked to see it and it is a
-C series unit. He had no idea that when he installed it on his plane
and had the surging problem he would have to pull it for modification as
well- quite a hassle on a flying airplane, much easier to do before
initial installation of course.
I sent Vans a polite e-mail asking if they were aware of this
situation, and if so, were they planning to notify those who had bought
these governors. No response in over a week, so I thought I'd give
y'all a little heads-up so you can avoid the same hassle I had. If you
have one of these units, contact Juergen at:
http://www.mt-propellerusa.com/home.htm
Mark Phillips, RV-6A "Mojo"
Columbia, TN
http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/
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did I pass??
Tom Gummo
Apple Valley, CA
Harmon Rocket-II
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From: John Jessen
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:02 AM
Subject: RV-List: Test 2
Test 2
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Nope, failed again. Sorry Gummo!
Test master.....
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Gummo
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Test 2
did I pass??
Tom Gummo
Apple Valley, CA
Harmon Rocket-II
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From: John Jessen <mailto:n212pj@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:02 AM
Subject: RV-List: Test 2
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Tom,
How could you pass if you didn't study for it...?
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From: Tom Gummo
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Test 2
did I pass??
Tom Gummo
Apple Valley, CA
Harmon Rocket-II
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To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:02 AM
Subject: RV-List: Test 2
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| Subject: | Just a Few Van's Belt Buckles.. |
I only have a total of 8 two-tone and nickel buckles left. When they sell, I have
decided not to re-order them. I will continue to sell the brass models. If
you have been thinking about one of these, now may be the last chance. Thanks
for looking.
__________________
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RV-9A Finishing #90623, O-360
Tucson, Arizona
Van's Aircraft Belt Buckles
http://home.earthlink.net/~gbrasch/
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Tail Dragger Towbar Question |
I'm getting to the point with my RV-8 where I am going to need a towbar to maneuver
the plane in and out of my hangar, and I need some advice on what type of
towbar works well at a reasonable price (ACS has 'em starting at $159 for the
"Taildragger Dragger" and upwards).
Sure would appreciate your input............
Thanks,
Walt Shipley RV8A 300 hrs, RV8 gettin' close to flyin'
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| Subject: | Re: MT-Prop Governor |
Mark, I copied your message and posted it on VAF forums. Here is the
link to the thread:
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=24754
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Visit my flying RV7A web page:
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Fiveonepw@aol.com wrote:
> I recently test flighted a new RV with an Aerosport IO-360, Hartzell
> BA prop and MT governor, and the prop would surge approximately
> 150-200 rpms about once per second under takeoff & climb power.
> Pretty darn interesting on a first flight. After calling Hartzell
> (they new about it and suggested calling Vans), Vans (the tech guy
> I talked to seemed a bit evasive, but gave me MTs phone#), then MT, I
> finally learned that any of their governors with a model # with
> anything earlier than an -F suffix has to be returned for modification
> to an -F series level. This particular governor was a -B series
> purchased from Vans about 16-18 months ago. Off to MT in DeLand
> Florida it went and was back in about 10 days- It now performs perfectly.
>
> But- I recently visited a builder near me who had bought the same
> governor, but had not yet installed it. I asked to see it and it is a
> -C series unit. He had no idea that when he installed it on his plane
> and had the surging problem he would have to pull it for modification
> as well- quite a hassle on a flying airplane, much easier to do before
> initial installation of course.
>
> I sent Vans a polite e-mail asking if they were aware of this
> situation, and if so, were they planning to notify those who had
> bought these governors. No response in over a week, so I thought I'd
> give y'all a little heads-up so you can avoid the same hassle I had.
> If you have one of these units, contact Juergen at:
> http://www.mt-propellerusa.com/home.htm
>
> Mark Phillips, RV-6A "Mojo"
> Columbia, TN
> http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Dragger Towbar Question |
Buy the "Cessna style towbar" from Aircraft Spruce. This is the one that
collapses when you remove a cotterless hitch pin. The towbar is less than
$50 and works very well. All you need to do is pay a little more attention
in bending and trimming the cotter pin that holds the nut to the axle bolt
on the tailwheel.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rveighta" <rveighta@earthlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:48 PM
Subject: RV-List: Tail Dragger Towbar Question
>
> I'm getting to the point with my RV-8 where I am going to need a towbar to
> maneuver the plane in and out of my hangar, and I need some advice on what
> type of towbar works well at a reasonable price (ACS has 'em starting at
> $159 for the "Taildragger Dragger" and upwards).
>
> Sure would appreciate your input............
>
> Thanks,
>
> Walt Shipley RV8A 300 hrs, RV8 gettin' close to flyin'
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Dragger Towbar Question |
Walt,
I use the tail dragger dragger and it works fine on concrete and asphalt but I
don't think the wheels are large enough for use on grass.
Bob Bales
RV6
----- Original Message -----
From: rveighta
Subject: RV-List: Tail Dragger Towbar Question
>
> I'm getting to the point with my RV-8 where I am going to need a
> towbar to maneuver the plane in and out of my hangar, and I need
> some advice on what type of towbar works well at a reasonable
> price (ACS has 'em starting at $159 for the "Taildragger
> Dragger" and upwards).
>
> Sure would appreciate your input............
>
> Thanks,
>
> Walt Shipley RV8A 300 hrs, RV8 gettin' close to flyin'
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | MT-Prop Governor |
Hey Mark, I had the same problem on my RV8. Give MT a call in Florida, I
think it was Dean I spoke with, they will send you an updated governor modi
fied for the Hartzell blended airfoil. I replace mine and have had no prob
lems since. I believe it is a -F model that you need. Anyway, I got good
service from them. If you can't get a hold of them in Florida, try Eric Gre
indl (Eric.Greindl@MT-Propeller.com) over in Germany, he was also helpfull.
Good luck,
Paul Rice N64PR
RV8 60 hours
From: Fiveonepw@aol.comDate: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:23:49 -0500Subject: RV-Lis
t: MT-Prop Governor To: rv-list@matronics.com
I recently test flighted a new RV with an Aerosport IO-360, Hartzell BA pro
p and MT governor, and the prop would surge approximately 150-200 rpms abou
t once per second under takeoff & climb power. Pretty darn interesting on
a first flight. After calling Hartzell (they new about it and suggested ca
lling Vans), Vans (the tech guy I talked to seemed a bit evasive, but gave
me MTs phone#), then MT, I finally learned that any of their governors with
a model # with anything earlier than an -F suffix has to be returned for m
odification to an -F series level. This particular governor was a -B serie
s purchased from Vans about 16-18 months ago. Off to MT in DeLand Florida
it went and was back in about 10 days- It now performs perfectly.
But- I recently visited a builder near me who had bought the same governor,
but had not yet installed it. I asked to see it and it is a -C series uni
t. He had no idea that when he installed it on his plane and had the surgi
ng problem he would have to pull it for modification as well- quite a hassl
e on a flying airplane, much easier to do before initial installation of co
urse.
I sent Vans a polite e-mail asking if they were aware of this situation, an
d if so, were they planning to notify those who had bought these governors.
No response in over a week, so I thought I'd give y'all a little heads-up
so you can avoid the same hassle I had. If you have one of these units, c
ontact Juergen at: http://www.mt-propellerusa.com/home.htm
Mark Phillips, RV-6A "Mojo"
Columbia, TN
http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/
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| Subject: | Re: MT-Prop Governor |
In a message dated 12/18/2007 1:41:31 PM Central Standard Time,
randy@romeolima.com writes:
The way to test it is to do a static full power run-up. The prop should not
turn more than around 2625 rpm, 2640 tops.
>>>
Hi Randy- it would hit just over 2600 whilst dragging the plane across the
run-up area, brakes locked. Max climbout rpm would be in the area you
mentioned.
Mark
p.s.- be careful doing this without a sissy wheel!
8-)
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| Subject: | Re: Just a Few Van's Belt Buckles.. |
In a message dated 12/18/2007 3:00:31 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
gbrasch@earthlink.net writes:
I only have a total of 8 two-tone and nickel buckles left. When they sell, I
have decided not to re-order them. I will continue to sell the brass models.
If you have been thinking about one of these, now may be the last chance.
===================================
I'll take one of the two tone ones if you have one left. I'll fire you off
a check if you confirm.
Cell 408-375-4450
Gary VanRemortel N1GV (RV-6A, Flying 872hrs, O-360-A1A, C/S, Silicon Valley)
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| Subject: | Re: MT-Prop Governor |
In a message dated 12/18/2007 11:05:33 PM Central Standard Time,
rice737@msn.com writes:
I believe it is a -F model that you need
>>
Thanks, Paul- appreciate the info...
Mark do not archive
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