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1. 12:11 AM - Re: Tail Dragger Towbar Question (Jeff Point)
2. 04:15 AM - Re: Tail Dragger Towbar Question (RV6 Flyer)
3. 05:52 AM - Re: Tail Dragger Towbar Question (Ron Schreck)
4. 06:06 AM - Re: Re: Tail Dragger Towbar Question (Sam Buchanan)
5. 06:15 AM - Re: Tail Dragger Towbar Question (Paul Besing)
6. 07:04 AM - King A&P Mechanics Exam Courses (Bill VonDane)
7. 07:18 AM - Re: Re: Tail Dragger Towbar Question (John Danielson)
8. 07:21 AM - Re: Tail Dragger Towbar Question (Tim Bryan)
9. 07:34 AM - Re: Tail Dragger Towbar Question (Tim Bryan)
10. 08:33 AM - Re: Test 2 (Tom Gummo)
11. 08:34 AM - Re: MT-Prop Governor (Ron Lee)
12. 09:19 AM - Re: MT-Prop Governor (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
13. 11:40 AM - Re: MT-Prop Governor (Dave Mader)
14. 11:48 AM - Fw: Tail Wind Project For sale (Ed Anderson)
15. 12:00 PM - Re: MT-Prop Governor (Randy Lervold)
16. 01:10 PM - prop governor (Brian Kraut)
17. 01:32 PM - Re: Tail Dragger Towbar Question (George P. Tyler)
18. 01:39 PM - Re: O-320 (Scott Gesele)
19. 02:54 PM - Re: Fw: Tail Wind Project For sale (Sam Buchanan)
20. 02:59 PM - Re: Fw: Tail Wind Project For sale (Konrad L. Werner)
21. 03:10 PM - good warning label. (Don Hall)
22. 03:19 PM - Re: Fw: Tail Wind Project For sale (Sam Buchanan)
23. 03:20 PM - Re: good warning label. (Konrad L. Werner)
24. 03:42 PM - Re: Fw: Tail Wind Project For sale (Konrad L. Werner)
25. 03:49 PM - Re: good warning label. (Paul Besing)
26. 04:01 PM - Re: good warning label (Konrad L. Werner)
27. 04:40 PM - Re: Fw: Tail Wind Project For sale (Sam Buchanan)
28. 04:41 PM - Re: Fw: Tail Wind Project For sale (Ed Anderson)
29. 05:00 PM - Re: Fw: Tail Wind Project For sale (Ed Anderson)
30. 05:24 PM - Re: good warning label (Russ & Marilyn)
31. 05:28 PM - Re: MT-Prop Governor (Bobby Hester)
32. 08:18 PM - Re: MT-Prop Governor (Don Vs)
33. 08:44 PM - Re: MT-Prop Governor (Don Vs)
34. 09:06 PM - Re: MT-Prop Governor (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
35. 09:31 PM - Re: MT-Prop Governor (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
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Subject: | Re: Tail Dragger Towbar Question |
2nd what Kyle said about the Deluxe Cessna Towbar. Wag Aero also sells
a similar which I have (since Wag is in my back yard.) As Kyle said, a
little tweaking of the cotter pin is in order. Also, I reamed out the
lugs on the towbar ever so slightly and that helps. I also used a
slightly longer bolt for the tailwheel and put a few washers under each
side. This gives the towbar some more "meat" to grab onto, but it
probably cost me .001 knot. I forget the exact bolt size but it was
about 1/2 inch longer than standard.
Jeff Point
RV-6 flying
RV-8 tail done
Milwaukee
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Subject: | Tail Dragger Towbar Question |
After 10-years of flying my RV, I use the built in towbar (horizontal stab)
to move the airplane were ever it needs to go. It is already part of the
airplane, does not increase empty weight of the airplane, and did not cost
any extra money.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
2,0638 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:48:43 -0500
> From: rveighta@earthlink.net
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Tail Dragger Towbar Question
>
>
> I'm getting to the point with my RV-8 where I am going to need a towbar t
o maneuver the plane in and out of my hangar, and I need some advice on wha
t type of towbar works well at a reasonable price (ACS has 'em starting at
$159 for the "Taildragger Dragger" and upwards).
>
> Sure would appreciate your input............
>
> Thanks,
>
> Walt Shipley RV8A 300 hrs, RV8 gettin' close to flyin'
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Subject: | Re: Tail Dragger Towbar Question |
Walt,
I made my own tow bar. It cost me nothing because I had the materials
at hand. It is light; less than 3 ounces. It folds to an overall
length of 4 inches, so I take it with me with no problems. It is a rope
with a 1-inch diameter dowel used for a handle. Slip it around the
vertical shaft of the tailwheel and the plane will follow you wherever
you pull it.
I'm not trying to by cute. IMHO money spent on a towbar for a tail
dragger is wasted.
Ron Schreck
RV-8 "Miss Izzy"
Gold Hill Airpark, NC
***************************************************************
I'm getting to the point with my RV-8 where I am going to need a towbar
to maneuver
the plane in and out of my hangar, and I need some advice on what
type of
towbar works well at a reasonable price (ACS has 'em starting at
$159 for the
"Taildragger Dragger" and upwards).
Sure would appreciate your input............
Thanks,
Walt Shipley RV8A 300 hrs, RV8 gettin' close to flyin'
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Subject: | Re: Tail Dragger Towbar Question |
Ron Schreck wrote:
> Walt, I made my own tow bar. It cost me nothing because I had the
> materials at hand. It is light; less than 3 ounces. It folds to an
> overall length of 4 inches, so I take it with me with no problems.
> It is a rope with a 1-inch diameter dowel used for a handle. Slip it
> around the vertical shaft of the tailwheel and the plane will follow
> you wherever you pull it.
>
> I'm not trying to by cute. IMHO money spent on a towbar for a tail
> dragger is wasted.
The rope works great....unless you want to *push* the plane with the
"towbar". :-)
With my hangar situation it is easiest to manage the plane with the
towbar both coming and going while maneuvering around my hangarmate's
RV-6A.
The Cessna bar has worked great for eight years:
http://thervjournal.com/airport.html#towbar
Sam Buchanan
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Subject: | Re: Tail Dragger Towbar Question |
Why do you need a towbar? If you have a full swivel tailwheel (all of them do
nowadays, but I just recently had to upgrade mine to the Bell tailwheel fork)
just push on the horizontal and vertical stab and she'll move anywhere you want
to go.
Paul Besing
RV-4 N73DD
Arizona
----- Original Message ----
From: rveighta <rveighta@earthlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 6:48:43 PM
Subject: RV-List: Tail Dragger Towbar Question
I'm getting to the point with my RV-8 where I am going to need a towbar
to maneuver the plane in and out of my hangar, and I need some advice
on what type of towbar works well at a reasonable price (ACS has 'em
starting at $159 for the "Taildragger Dragger" and upwards).
Sure would appreciate your input............
Thanks,
Walt Shipley RV8A 300 hrs, RV8 gettin' close to flyin'
Looking for last minute shopping deals?
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Subject: | King A&P Mechanics Exam Courses |
Anyone have the King A&P Mechanics Exam Courses DVDs they are willing to
part with? ...or anything similar?
Please contact me off list...
-Bill VonDane
bill@vondane.com
719-266-2388
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Subject: | Re: Tail Dragger Towbar Question |
I made up the same thing Ron. It works as well as any towbar I have ever
used. Plus I always have it with me in the plane.
John L. Danielson
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron Schreck
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 6:51 AM
Subject: RV-List: Re: Tail Dragger Towbar Question
Walt,
I made my own tow bar. It cost me nothing because I had the materials
at hand. It is light; less than 3 ounces. It folds to an overall
length of 4 inches, so I take it with me with no problems. It is a rope
with a 1-inch diameter dowel used for a handle. Slip it around the
vertical shaft of the tailwheel and the plane will follow you wherever
you pull it.
I'm not trying to by cute. IMHO money spent on a towbar for a tail
dragger is wasted.
Ron Schreck
RV-8 "Miss Izzy"
Gold Hill Airpark, NC
***************************************************************
I'm getting to the point with my RV-8 where I am going to need a towbar
to maneuver
the plane in and out of my hangar, and I need some advice on what
type of
towbar works well at a reasonable price (ACS has 'em starting at
$159 for the
"Taildragger Dragger" and upwards).
Sure would appreciate your input............
Thanks,
Walt Shipley RV8A 300 hrs, RV8 gettin' close to flyin'
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Subject: | Tail Dragger Towbar Question |
Agreed the Tail Dragger Dragger might work ok on asphalt but it does not
work well on grass. Here is my experience with it.
I have to push the dragger up under the belly by going quite a bit up
forward else the wheel doesn't fit under the back of my -6. Then pull it
back to get it to the tail wheel and it wont really just slide to get the
tailwheel between the pins so usually I end up picking up the plane slightly
to set it on the dragger. Hard to do with only two hands. Then when I try
to pull it backwards on the grass the wheel tends to want to turn in the
saddle. This is especially true if you need to turn the dragger to position
the plane differently. Once the wheel turns in the saddle, it will pop off
the dragger and be a bad thing. To fix this I use a bungy cord to wrap
around the wheel and the dragger and hook it to the pins. Well you can't
just go under the dragger with the bungy so again you have to lift up on the
handle while stretching the bungy under the bar so you can bring it over the
top of the wheel again to hook it.
Overall I have deemed it next to useless for my needs and would be willing
to sell it to someone with asphalt only needs. Personally I wouldn't buy
one again even if I was on asphalt. An engineer friend here on the airpark
designed a simple and easy to use with positive connection for his Sonex.
After seeing how easy it was it looked to me like it would work for my RV.
He has redesigned a version for me and this works about as perfect as it
could. Now I just walk this back up to the rear of the tail wheel and tip
the handle up and push it in. Once under the wheel bolt, let the handle
down and you have a positive lock on the wheel and it will NOT turn out, pop
off or even require me to get down and screw around with it. I love it and
am absolutely willing to share the design. Problem is you have to build it.
If anyone is interested, just email me and I will scan the detail drawings
in so you can see for yourself.
Tim
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rv6n@optonline.net
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Tail Dragger Towbar Question
Walt,
I use the tail dragger dragger and it works fine on concrete and asphalt but
I don't think the wheels are large enough for use on grass.
Bob Bales
RV6
----- Original Message -----
From: rveighta
Subject: RV-List: Tail Dragger Towbar Question
>
> I'm getting to the point with my RV-8 where I am going to need a
> towbar to maneuver the plane in and out of my hangar, and I need
> some advice on what type of towbar works well at a reasonable
> price (ACS has 'em starting at $159 for the "Taildragger
> Dragger" and upwards).
>
> Sure would appreciate your input............
>
> Thanks,
>
> Walt Shipley RV8A 300 hrs, RV8 gettin' close to flyin'
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Tail Dragger Towbar Question |
Here is page one for viewing. If you are interested in building this just
ask me off line and I will send the other two detail drawings.
Tim
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Bryan
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 9:21 AM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Tail Dragger Towbar Question
Agreed the Tail Dragger Dragger might work ok on asphalt but it does not
work well on grass. Here is my experience with it.
I have to push the dragger up under the belly by going quite a bit up
forward else the wheel doesn't fit under the back of my -6. Then pull it
back to get it to the tail wheel and it wont really just slide to get the
tailwheel between the pins so usually I end up picking up the plane slightly
to set it on the dragger. Hard to do with only two hands. Then when I try
to pull it backwards on the grass the wheel tends to want to turn in the
saddle. This is especially true if you need to turn the dragger to position
the plane differently. Once the wheel turns in the saddle, it will pop off
the dragger and be a bad thing. To fix this I use a bungy cord to wrap
around the wheel and the dragger and hook it to the pins. Well you can't
just go under the dragger with the bungy so again you have to lift up on the
handle while stretching the bungy under the bar so you can bring it over the
top of the wheel again to hook it.
Overall I have deemed it next to useless for my needs and would be willing
to sell it to someone with asphalt only needs. Personally I wouldn't buy
one again even if I was on asphalt. An engineer friend here on the airpark
designed a simple and easy to use with positive connection for his Sonex.
After seeing how easy it was it looked to me like it would work for my RV.
He has redesigned a version for me and this works about as perfect as it
could. Now I just walk this back up to the rear of the tail wheel and tip
the handle up and push it in. Once under the wheel bolt, let the handle
down and you have a positive lock on the wheel and it will NOT turn out, pop
off or even require me to get down and screw around with it. I love it and
am absolutely willing to share the design. Problem is you have to build it.
If anyone is interested, just email me and I will scan the detail drawings
in so you can see for yourself.
Tim
_____
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rv6n@optonline.net
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Tail Dragger Towbar Question
Walt,
I use the tail dragger dragger and it works fine on concrete and asphalt but
I don't think the wheels are large enough for use on grass.
Bob Bales
RV6
----- Original Message -----
From: rveighta
Subject: RV-List: Tail Dragger Towbar Question
>
> I'm getting to the point with my RV-8 where I am going to need a
> towbar to maneuver the plane in and out of my hangar, and I need
> some advice on what type of towbar works well at a reasonable
> price (ACS has 'em starting at $159 for the "Taildragger
> Dragger" and upwards).
>
> Sure would appreciate your input............
>
> Thanks,
>
> Walt Shipley RV8A 300 hrs, RV8 gettin' close to flyin'
>
> ==========
> ==========
> ==========
> ==========
>
>
>
>
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Anyway, Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, Happy New Year, etc. (I am not
PC so don't know all the proper things to say, so add your own Seasons
Greetings).
Off to see Grandkids, so out of the loop for the next two weeks.
Thanks to the TROOPS.
Tom "GummiBear" Gummo
Wild Weasel #1573
Major, USAF Retired
http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html
N561FS, Harmon Rocket II, 300+ hours - large smile on my face.
Apple Valley, CA
Harmon Rocket-II
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Konrad L. Werner
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Test 2
Tom,
How could you pass if you didn't study for it...?
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Gummo
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Test 2
did I pass??
Tom Gummo
Apple Valley, CA
Harmon Rocket-II
do not archive
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From: John Jessen
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:02 AM
Subject: RV-List: Test 2
Test 2
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Subject: | Re: MT-Prop Governor |
Be careful doing a full power static runup with a taildragger?
Can you say nose over?
Please provide accepted methods of securing the plane so that
a nose over does not happen.
Ron Lee
----- Original Message -----
From: Fiveonepw@aol.com
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: MT-Prop Governor
In a message dated 12/18/2007 1:41:31 PM Central Standard Time,
randy@romeolima.com writes:
The way to test it is to do a static full power run-up. The prop
should not turn more than around 2625 rpm, 2640 tops.
>>>
Hi Randy- it would hit just over 2600 whilst dragging the plane across
the run-up area, brakes locked. Max climbout rpm would be in the area
you mentioned.
Mark
p.s.- be careful doing this without a sissy wheel!
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Subject: | Re: MT-Prop Governor |
In a message dated 12/19/2007 10:37:14 AM Central Standard Time,
ronlee@pcisys.net writes:
Please provide accepted methods of securing the plane so that
a nose over does not happen.
Can you say "tailhook"?
8-)
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Subject: | MT-Prop Governor |
Youbetcha!
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fiveonepw@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: MT-Prop Governor
In a message dated 12/19/2007 10:37:14 AM Central Standard Time,
ronlee@pcisys.net writes:
Please provide accepted methods of securing the plane so that
a nose over does not happen.
Can you say "tailhook"?
8-)
Mark do not archive
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Subject: | Fw: Tail Wind Project For sale |
On the way back from a trip to Louisiana, I landed at Walker County
Airport (KJFX) Alabama to refuel. While refueling a gentleman came over
and introduced himself as Ed Banks. Mentioned that he had an RV-6 and
invited me to see it. Very nice RV with clean paint lines. While in
his hangar I noticed he had a Tailwind with the wings off which he was
restoring.
Ed stated that he had built new wings, had a newly overhauled O-295, new
Plexiglas all around and had complete the process of recovering. The
cloth needs one more coat of aluminum UV blocker before applying paint.
I believe he also had a new instrument panel blank. He had new
lightweight fiberglass cowling components as well.
Citing insufficient time to complete it, Ed would like to find a buyer
for it as a project. I asked him what he wanted for the project and he
quoted me an attractive price. I must admit I was tempted as I have the
plans for a TailWind that I had once planned on building, but I also
lack the time.
So if anyone is interested or knows of a Tailwind list where someone
might be interested, please contact Ed direct.
His e mail is IFLYRV6N264EB@AOL.Com his cell phone is 205-522-0539
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
http://www.andersonee.com
http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html
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Subject: | Re: MT-Prop Governor |
Of course you'd have your tail tied down, wouldn't think of doing the
test without. In fact the tail should be tied low so that the prop has a
much ground clearance as possible. My bad for not mentioning that. I use
a fire hydrant near my hangar and tie a short rope right at ground
level. This keeps the tailwheel on the ground.
Randy Lervold
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Lee
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: MT-Prop Governor
Be careful doing a full power static runup with a taildragger?
Can you say nose over?
Please provide accepted methods of securing the plane so that
a nose over does not happen.
Ron Lee
----- Original Message -----
From: Fiveonepw@aol.com
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: MT-Prop Governor
In a message dated 12/18/2007 1:41:31 PM Central Standard Time,
randy@romeolima.com writes:
The way to test it is to do a static full power run-up. The prop
should not turn more than around 2625 rpm, 2640 tops.
>>>
Hi Randy- it would hit just over 2600 whilst dragging the plane
across the run-up area, brakes locked. Max climbout rpm would be in the
area you mentioned.
Mark
p.s.- be careful doing this without a sissy wheel!
8-)
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Can anyone recommend a good source for an overhauled prop governor? It is
for an IO-470.
Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com
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Subject: | Re: Tail Dragger Towbar Question |
The "Taildragger", works fine as long as you don't have to pull the plane up
any significant incline. I have used the least expensive version on my -6
for over 5 years.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rveighta" <rveighta@earthlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:48 PM
Subject: RV-List: Tail Dragger Towbar Question
>
> I'm getting to the point with my RV-8 where I am going to need a towbar to
maneuver the plane in and out of my hangar, and I need some advice on what
type of towbar works well at a reasonable price (ACS has 'em starting at
$159 for the "Taildragger Dragger" and upwards).
>
> Sure would appreciate your input............
>
> Thanks,
>
> Walt Shipley RV8A 300 hrs, RV8 gettin' close to flyin'
>
>
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> Time: 08:34:44 AM PST US
> From: "Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: O-320
>
> Perhaps the other reason would be *final cost*...
> I'd get a bid from
> each of the many engine builders and shop around for
> what you really
> want. I don't know what the sales tax situation is
> like in L.I.,NY, but
> it may even cost more in sales tax alone then what
> it would cost for
> getting a Bartized Lycosaurus shipped from Canada.
> Aerosport Power has
> certainly earned themselves a stellar reputation
> (not to put down
> Mattituck, PenYan, LyCon and the various many other
> custom shops). Your
> call, but I would simply visit Mattituck to see what
> they would have in
> store for you, and then compare apples to apples...
> Good Luck!
I vote for Mattituck. I also live on Long Island and
have a flying RV-6A out of Bayport. There is a
Mattituck TMX-IO-540 sitting in my garage for a
project that I am helping to build. The support from
Mattituck has been first rate. They offer the free
engine builders class and are right in your backyard.
This is a huge benefit if you need assistance or
parts. You are also able to witness the test running
of YOUR engine if you want.
There will be no sales tax. New York State exempts
airplane parts from sales tax. There was no sales tax
on that 540 mentioned above.
I'm sure Aerosport produces a fine engine, but they
can't offer you the local support that Mattituck can
provide.
If you still need more inforation, then call Mahlon
from Mattituck and arrange to talk to them personally.
They have been known to give builders a tour of their
facility upon request.
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Subject: | Re: Fw: Tail Wind Project For sale |
Ed Anderson wrote:
>
>
> On the way back from a trip to Louisiana, I landed at Walker County
> Airport (KJFX) Alabama to refuel. While refueling a gentleman came
> over and introduced himself as Ed Banks. Mentioned that he had an
> RV-6 and invited me to see it. Very nice RV with clean paint lines.
> While in his hangar I noticed he had a Tailwind with the wings off
> which he was restoring.
>
> Ed stated that he had built new wings, had a newly overhauled O-295,
> new Plexiglas all around and had complete the process of recovering.
> The cloth needs one more coat of aluminum UV blocker before applying
> paint. I believe he also had a new instrument panel blank. He had
> new lightweight fiberglass cowling components as well.
>
> Citing insufficient time to complete it, Ed would like to find a
> buyer for it as a project. I asked him what he wanted for the
> project and he quoted me an attractive price. I must admit I was
> tempted as I have the plans for a TailWind that I had once planned on
> building, but I also lack the time.
>
>
> So if anyone is interested or knows of a Tailwind list where someone
> might be interested, please contact Ed direct.
>
> His e mail is IFLYRV6N264EB@AOL.Com his cell phone is 205-522-0539
I can personally vouch for Ed Banks. He is part of our Tennessee Valley
RV group, an honest fellow, and whatever he tells you about the Tailwind
is the way it is.
Sam Buchanan
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Subject: | Re: Fw: Tail Wind Project For sale |
Ed,
Is this newly overhauled O-295 a mixed breed between a O-235 and a
O-290? More out of curiosity then anything else, but would you mind
sharing with us this attractive price you were quoted? Thanks...
Konrad
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Anderson
To: RV-List ; rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:42 AM
Subject: RV-List: Fw: Tail Wind Project For sale
On the way back from a trip to Louisiana, I landed at Walker County
Airport (KJFX) Alabama to refuel. While refueling a gentleman came over
and introduced himself as Ed Banks. Mentioned that he had an RV-6 and
invited me to see it. Very nice RV with clean paint lines. While in
his hangar I noticed he had a Tailwind with the wings off which he was
restoring.
Ed stated that he had built new wings, had a newly overhauled O-295,
new Plexiglas all around and had complete the process of recovering.
The cloth needs one more coat of aluminum UV blocker before applying
paint. I believe he also had a new instrument panel blank. He had new
lightweight fiberglass cowling components as well.
Citing insufficient time to complete it, Ed would like to find a buyer
for it as a project. I asked him what he wanted for the project and he
quoted me an attractive price. I must admit I was tempted as I have the
plans for a TailWind that I had once planned on building, but I also
lack the time.
So if anyone is interested or knows of a Tailwind list where someone
might be interested, please contact Ed direct.
His e mail is IFLYRV6N264EB@AOL.Com his cell phone is 205-522-0539
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
http://www.andersonee.com
http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html
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Subject: | good warning label. |
Your ironic humor for today:
I'm adding the matco parking brake and needed to order some shorter brake
lines. Found some 20" steel braided straight an4 lines from an online
auto/performance website.
They came with the label: "Warning: Competition/Off Road Use Only. Not
approved for highway use."
Hmmm. Well. I do hope to go "off road", so I'm thinking I should be good.
******************************************
Don Hall
N517DG (registered)
rv7 finishing
******************************************
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Subject: | Re: Fw: Tail Wind Project For sale |
Konrad L. Werner wrote:
> Ed, Is this newly overhauled O-295 a mixed breed between a O-235 and
> a O-290? More out of curiosity then anything else, but would you
> mind sharing with us this attractive price you were quoted? Thanks...
Wouldn't it be much better to contact Ed Banks. the Tailwind owner,
directly for this information?
Sam Buchanan
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Subject: | Re: good warning label. |
Don,
You should be fine (as long as the hose material is compatible with the
brake fluid). Just don't ever land on a highway, not even in an
emergency, as you would be violating the hose's approval!!!
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Don Hall
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:09 PM
Subject: RV-List: good warning label.
Your ironic humor for today:
I'm adding the matco parking brake and needed to order some shorter
brake lines. Found some 20" steel braided straight an4 lines from an
online auto/performance website.
They came with the label: "Warning: Competition/Off Road Use Only.
Not approved for highway use."
Hmmm. Well. I do hope to go "off road", so I'm thinking I should be
good.
******************************************
Don Hall
N517DG (registered)
rv7 finishing
******************************************
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Subject: | Re: Fw: Tail Wind Project For sale |
Sam,
Wouldn't the absence of all information limit this gentlemen's projects
exposure, thereby greatly affecting its marketability, as well as
hindering a potential sale ??
I'd rather put all the information out there and then get call's only
from interested parties ( even they do take a great deal of weeding out
qualified buyers)
Just my $0.02 on sales technique
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Sam Buchanan
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Fw: Tail Wind Project For sale
Konrad L. Werner wrote:
> Ed, Is this newly overhauled O-295 a mixed breed between a O-235 and
> a O-290? More out of curiosity then anything else, but would you
> mind sharing with us this attractive price you were quoted?
Thanks...
Wouldn't it be much better to contact Ed Banks. the Tailwind owner,
directly for this information?
Sam Buchanan
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Subject: | Re: good warning label. |
Go to the speedshop and tell them it's for an airplane and look stupid and ask
for advice...they'll push you out the door and lock it and tell you to never
come back...
Paul Besing
----- Original Message ----
From: Konrad L. Werner <klwerner@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:19:17 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: good warning label.
Don,
You should be fine (as long as
the hose material is compatible with the brake fluid). Just don't ever land on
a highway, not even in
an emergency, as you would be violating the hose's
approval!!!
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From:
Don Hall
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:09
PM
Subject: RV-List: good warning
label.
Your ironic humor
for today:
I'm adding the
matco parking brake and needed to order some shorter brake lines. Found
some 20" steel braided straight an4 lines from an online auto/performance
website.
They came with the
label: "Warning: Competition/Off Road Use Only. Not approved for
highway use."
Hmmm. Well.
I do hope to go "off road", so I'm thinking I should be
good.
******************************************
Don
Hall
N517DG (registered)
rv7 finishing
******************************************
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Subject: | Re: good warning label |
Paul,
Being that straight forward would definitely defeat the purpose, now
wouldn't it? It is not what you say, but how you say it: I would try "I
need custom brake lines for an off road-RV" certainly wouldn't even be
considered lying...
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Besing
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: good warning label.
Go to the speedshop and tell them it's for an airplane and look stupid
and ask for advice...they'll push you out the door and lock it and tell
you to never come back...
Paul Besing
----- Original Message ----
From: Konrad L. Werner <klwerner@comcast.net>
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:19:17 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: good warning label.
Don,
You should be fine (as long as the hose material is compatible with
the brake fluid). Just don't ever land on a highway, not even in an
emergency, as you would be violating the hose's approval!!!
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Don Hall
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:09 PM
Subject: RV-List: good warning label.
Your ironic humor for today:
I'm adding the matco parking brake and needed to order some shorter
brake lines. Found some 20" steel braided straight an4 lines from an
online auto/performance website.
They came with the label: "Warning: Competition/Off Road Use Only.
Not approved for highway use."
Hmmm. Well. I do hope to go "off road", so I'm thinking I should be
good.
******************************************
Don Hall
N517DG (registered)
rv7 finishing
******************************************
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.
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Subject: | Re: Fw: Tail Wind Project For sale |
Konrad L. Werner wrote:
> Sam, Wouldn't the absence of all information limit this gentlemen's
> projects exposure, thereby greatly affecting its marketability, as
> well as hindering a potential sale ?? I'd rather put all the
> information out there and then get call's only from interested
> parties ( even they do take a great deal of weeding out qualified
> buyers)
Konrad, I guess if the plane for sale was mine, I would want interested
parties to get detailed, first-hand, totally accurate info straight from
me instead of from someone whom I happened to meet on an airport ramp....
Ed Anderson provided Mr. Banks' contact info, I suspect in order to
encourage interested folks to contact the seller directly. But if Ed
Anderson wishes to answer your inquiry, I'm sure he will.
I'm done. :-)
Sam Buchanan
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Subject: | Re: Fw: Tail Wind Project For sale |
Hi Konrad,
I really don't know anything more about the engine - I fly behind a
Mazda Rotary so the Lycomings other than the 320 and 360 series are a
mystery. I could have had a memory slip and gotten the engine
designation wrong.
As far as the price, I would feel better if you got that from Ed Banks
himself. He struck me as a straight dealer and the suitability of
price is, of course, in the eye of the guy holding the greenbacks {:>).
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: Konrad L. Werner
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Fw: Tail Wind Project For sale
Ed,
Is this newly overhauled O-295 a mixed breed between a O-235 and a
O-290? More out of curiosity then anything else, but would you mind
sharing with us this attractive price you were quoted? Thanks...
Konrad
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Anderson
To: RV-List ; rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:42 AM
Subject: RV-List: Fw: Tail Wind Project For sale
On the way back from a trip to Louisiana, I landed at Walker County
Airport (KJFX) Alabama to refuel. While refueling a gentleman came over
and introduced himself as Ed Banks. Mentioned that he had an RV-6 and
invited me to see it. Very nice RV with clean paint lines. While in
his hangar I noticed he had a Tailwind with the wings off which he was
restoring.
Ed stated that he had built new wings, had a newly overhauled O-295,
new Plexiglas all around and had complete the process of recovering.
The cloth needs one more coat of aluminum UV blocker before applying
paint. I believe he also had a new instrument panel blank. He had new
lightweight fiberglass cowling components as well.
Citing insufficient time to complete it, Ed would like to find a
buyer for it as a project. I asked him what he wanted for the project
and he quoted me an attractive price. I must admit I was tempted as I
have the plans for a TailWind that I had once planned on building, but I
also lack the time.
So if anyone is interested or knows of a Tailwind list where someone
might be interested, please contact Ed direct.
His e mail is IFLYRV6N264EB@AOL.Com his cell phone is 205-522-0539
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
http://www.andersonee.com
http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html
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Subject: | Re: Fw: Tail Wind Project For sale |
> Konrad, I guess if the plane for sale was mine, I would want interested
> parties to get detailed, first-hand, totally accurate info straight from
> me instead of from someone whom I happened to meet on an airport ramp....
>
> Ed Anderson provided Mr. Banks' contact info, I suspect in order to
> encourage interested folks to contact the seller directly. But if Ed
> Anderson wishes to answer your inquiry, I'm sure he will.
>
> I'm done. :-)
>
> Sam Buchanan
Actually, Ed Banks did not ask me to spread the word. When I found out he
was interested in selling his project, I volunteered to distribute the
news. Not only to the RV list (which might know of someone interested),
but also to the TailWind list. I thought I would be simply helping someone
get rid of a project they did not have time for and to help someone looking
for a reasonable way to get airborne.
I get no $$ out of it. Don't know about Ed Banks, but some folks just
don't feel comfortable trying to use a computer.
I'm not the broker {:>), just the messenger - please don't shoot {:>)
Ed
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Subject: | Re: good warning label |
Tell them it's for a snow blower.
----- Original Message -----
From: Konrad L. Werner
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: good warning label
Paul,
Being that straight forward would definitely defeat the purpose, now
wouldn't it? It is not what you say, but how you say it: I would try "I
need custom brake lines for an off road-RV" certainly wouldn't even be
considered lying...
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Besing
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: good warning label.
Go to the speedshop and tell them it's for an airplane and look
stupid and ask for advice...they'll push you out the door and lock it
and tell you to never come back...
Paul Besing
----- Original Message ----
From: Konrad L. Werner <klwerner@comcast.net>
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:19:17 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: good warning label.
Don,
You should be fine (as long as the hose material is compatible with
the brake fluid). Just don't ever land on a highway, not even in an
emergency, as you would be violating the hose's approval!!!
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Don Hall
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:09 PM
Subject: RV-List: good warning label.
Your ironic humor for today:
I'm adding the matco parking brake and needed to order some
shorter brake lines. Found some 20" steel braided straight an4 lines
from an online auto/performance website.
They came with the label: "Warning: Competition/Off Road Use
Only. Not approved for highway use."
Hmmm. Well. I do hope to go "off road", so I'm thinking I should
be good.
******************************************
Don Hall
N517DG (registered)
rv7 finishing
******************************************
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.
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Subject: | Re: MT-Prop Governor |
I sent Mark a private email and I think he thought it was on the list.
I am sure he wanted everyone to hear his reply :-)
In a message dated 12/18/2007 8:09:13 PM Central Standard Time,
bobbyhester@newwavecomm.net writes:
Mark, I copied your message and posted it on VAF forums. Here is the
link to the thread:
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=24754
Hi Bobby- appreciate you letting the VAF folks in on it. In their
thread it was mentioned that cold oil or low ambient temps might cause
this. I wrestled with this situation for almost 20 hours hoping it was
just break-in on new equipment- ambient temps were anywhere from 80-45
def.F. No amount of cycling helped and neither did taking off again
immediately after landing, even TAGs.
MT replaced several main components in the unit to fix the problem,
admitting the earlier units hadn't quite been as good as they were
expecting. But let me re-iterate here that they willingly updated the
unit with excellent turn-around time, and the returned unit works very
well after about 4 hours additional flight time. My main beef was not
knowing about this "known" condition prior to initial installation and
flight testing...
Mark
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Subject: | MT-Prop Governor |
Dumb question. This thread listed the prop as a BA. Is this a pure Govenor
problem that should show up regardless of the prop used?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bobby Hester
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 5:27 PM
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV-List: MT-Prop Governor
I sent Mark a private email and I think he thought it was on the list.
I am sure he wanted everyone to hear his reply :-)
In a message dated 12/18/2007 8:09:13 PM Central Standard Time,
bobbyhester@newwavecomm.net writes:
Mark, I copied your message and posted it on VAF forums. Here is the
link to the thread:
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=24754
Hi Bobby- appreciate you letting the VAF folks in on it. In their thread
it was mentioned that cold oil or low ambient temps might cause this. I
wrestled with this situation for almost 20 hours hoping it was just break-in
on new equipment- ambient temps were anywhere from 80-45 def.F. No amount
of cycling helped and neither did taking off again immediately after
landing, even TAGs.
MT replaced several main components in the unit to fix the problem,
admitting the earlier units hadn't quite been as good as they were
expecting. But let me re-iterate here that they willingly updated the unit
with excellent turn-around time, and the returned unit works very well after
about 4 hours additional flight time. My main beef was not knowing about
this "known" condition prior to initial installation and flight testing...
Mark
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Subject: | MT-Prop Governor |
Make that regardless of the CS prop used.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Don Vs
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 8:16 PM
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV-List: MT-Prop Governor
Dumb question. This thread listed the prop as a BA. Is this a pure
Govenor problem that should show up regardless of the prop used?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bobby Hester
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 5:27 PM
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV-List: MT-Prop Governor
I sent Mark a private email and I think he thought it was on the list.
I am sure he wanted everyone to hear his reply :-)
In a message dated 12/18/2007 8:09:13 PM Central Standard Time,
bobbyhester@newwavecomm.net writes:
Mark, I copied your message and posted it on VAF forums. Here is the
link to the thread:
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=24754
Hi Bobby- appreciate you letting the VAF folks in on it. In their
thread it was mentioned that cold oil or low ambient temps might cause this.
I wrestled with this situation for almost 20 hours hoping it was just
break-in on new equipment- ambient temps were anywhere from 80-45 def.F. No
amount of cycling helped and neither did taking off again immediately after
landing, even TAGs.
MT replaced several main components in the unit to fix the problem,
admitting the earlier units hadn't quite been as good as they were
expecting. But let me re-iterate here that they willingly updated the unit
with excellent turn-around time, and the returned unit works very well after
about 4 hours additional flight time. My main beef was not knowing about
this "known" condition prior to initial installation and flight testing...
Mark
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Subject: | Re: MT-Prop Governor |
In a message dated 12/19/2007 7:30:38 PM Central Standard Time,
bobbyhester@newwavecomm.net writes:
I sent Mark a private email and I think he thought it was on the list.
I am sure he wanted everyone to hear his reply :-)
Yep! (doh!)
Thanks, Bobby- do not archive
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Subject: | Re: MT-Prop Governor |
In a message dated 12/19/2007 10:21:08 PM Central Standard Time,
dsvs@ca.rr.com writes:
Dumb question. This thread listed the prop as a BA. Is this a pure Govenor
problem that should show up regardless of the prop used?
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I don't know if it is a result of this governor in combination with any
specific prop- MT may be best equipped to answer that...
_http://www.mt-propellerusa.com/contact.htm_
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Mark
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