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1. 12:40 AM - Re: Need some reference material help (Ed)
2. 07:29 AM - Re: RV-7 VS Mustang II etc (Mark Doble)
3. 10:17 AM - Re: Need some reference material help (Kyle Boatright)
4. 10:21 AM - Radio antenas? (Bert Murillo)
5. 10:53 AM - Re: Need some reference material help (Kelly McMullen)
6. 11:01 AM - Re: Radio antenas? (Michael Kraus)
7. 11:27 AM - Re: Radio antenas? (Kelly McMullen)
8. 11:33 AM - Re: Radio antennas? (Carl Froehlich)
9. 11:35 AM - Re: Radio antenas? (Kevin Horton)
10. 01:32 PM - Synthetic brake fluid and Viton O-rings (James H Nelson)
11. 02:09 PM - Re: Radio antenas? (Charlie England)
12. 05:00 PM - Re: Synthetic brake fluid and Viton O-rings (Ron Lee)
13. 09:33 PM - New wing jack for RVs (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
14. 11:04 PM - Official RV-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle)
15. 11:07 PM - Official RV-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle)
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| Subject: | Re: Need some reference material help |
I believe that the idle screw only controls the mixture at idle. As soon
as you give it any throttle, the main jet kicks in and the idle circuit
is no longer working. It doesn't matter much in practice if you have the
right mixture at idle because you should be taxiing around with the
mixture so lean that it won't take much throttle without puking so that
you don't foul plugs. The so lean it pukes setting will keep you from
mistakenly taking off with a partially lean setting. It reminds you to
go full rich.
Pax,
Ed Holyoke
Kyle Boatright wrote:
>
> Just to clarify things...
>
> With a carb, you should see a 25-50 rpm increase in rpm before the
> engine dies as you lean it from idle.
>
> To enrich the idle setting, turn the screw out (counterclockwise). To
> lean the setting, turn it in (clockwise).
>
> KB
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Walter" <dale1rv6@comcast.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 8:56 PM
> Subject: RE: RV-List: Need some reference material help
>
>
>>
>> Randy,
>> Legend says rise, not drop. More than one veteran IA told me not to
>> worry if
>> I did not see that. Some sources stress testing at 650 rpm idle.
>> Dale
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of McFarland,
>> Randy
>> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 7:04 PM
>> To: rv-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV-List: Need some reference material help
>>
>> <Randy.McFarland@novellus.com>
>>
>> Anyone have the Precision MA4-5 manual in e form? I can't find it on
>> internet.
>> I don't get the 50 rpm drop when going to idle-cutoff, but don't know
>> which way to turn the screw to richen/lean it.
>> Thx
>> Randy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-7 VS Mustang II etc |
Hey RV'ers,
Just some details on the Mustang II thought you might find interesting.I've
been on this list since 98 and have enjoyed all the help I've gotten.
I have a Mustang II flying since 2003. Took 3.5 years to build. I also
made my cockpit 40" wide.
I've flown an RV-6 a few times..once with Mike Seager in Tampa. The only
differences that come to mind is that the ailerons felt much lighter.
My stall speed is 57mph (factory rolled airfoils).
I just (finally) put wheel pants on my plane a few days ago. (used a mold
from the Cozy List). There are no standard wheel pants for the Mustang you
have make them yourself (which can be a bummer if you don't have the
time.like me).
Did some speed tests and with 0-360-A1A (carb), James cowling, and T18
canopy I get flat out at 1500MSL @ 55F I was able to get 225mph indicated
flat out (eg.everything forward!)
The Mustang probably requires a bit more work to build....but you can get
pre-punched center section and factory built wings which brings down the
build time significantly.
It was frustrating at first when building.but once you get the hang of it.it
goes together easily.
Some details at http://mustang.stratologic.net
Cheers,
Mark
N515MD
Raleigh, NC
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| Subject: | Re: Need some reference material help |
I'm 98% certain there are two screws - The mixture adjustment screw, which
is the one I wrote about and the idle adjustment, which you use to set idle
speed.
KB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed" <bicyclop@pacbell.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 3:32 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Need some reference material help
>
> I believe that the idle screw only controls the mixture at idle. As soon
> as you give it any throttle, the main jet kicks in and the idle circuit is
> no longer working. It doesn't matter much in practice if you have the
> right mixture at idle because you should be taxiing around with the
> mixture so lean that it won't take much throttle without puking so that
> you don't foul plugs. The so lean it pukes setting will keep you from
> mistakenly taking off with a partially lean setting. It reminds you to go
> full rich.
>
> Pax,
>
> Ed Holyoke
>
> Kyle Boatright wrote:
>
>>
>> Just to clarify things...
>>
>> With a carb, you should see a 25-50 rpm increase in rpm before the engine
>> dies as you lean it from idle.
>>
>> To enrich the idle setting, turn the screw out (counterclockwise). To
>> lean the setting, turn it in (clockwise).
>>
>> KB
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Walter" <dale1rv6@comcast.net>
>> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 8:56 PM
>> Subject: RE: RV-List: Need some reference material help
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Randy,
>>> Legend says rise, not drop. More than one veteran IA told me not to
>>> worry if
>>> I did not see that. Some sources stress testing at 650 rpm idle.
>>> Dale
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>>> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of McFarland,
>>> Randy
>>> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 7:04 PM
>>> To: rv-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: RV-List: Need some reference material help
>>>
>>> <Randy.McFarland@novellus.com>
>>>
>>> Anyone have the Precision MA4-5 manual in e form? I can't find it on
>>> internet.
>>> I don't get the 50 rpm drop when going to idle-cutoff, but don't know
>>> which way to turn the screw to richen/lean it.
>>> Thx
>>> Randy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Hello:
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL....'''''
MY first posting in 08.....
I am planning to buy a second radio for my rv6a..., question now is
do I have to have another antena? I hope I do not have to do that..
What is the next way to do this, so I can use both radios with one antena..??
Thanks
Bert rv6a
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Need some reference material help |
Not on a standard Precision/Marvel Schebler carb for a 4 cyl Lycoming,
there isn't a main mixture screw. There are more or less 4 fuel
circuits. The idle is adjusted with the needle valve. An off-idle slot
may or may not be incorporated to handle the transistion to low power
settings, the main jet, which feeds fuel from the bowl through it into
the venturi for almost all your fuel(and is a fixed orifice), and the
accelerator pump circuit that only squirts when the throttle is pushed
forward. There are several different part numbers that match the carb to
the specific engine model by what size main jet is installed.
KM
A&P/IA
Kyle Boatright wrote:
>
> I'm 98% certain there are two screws - The mixture adjustment screw,
> which is the one I wrote about and the idle adjustment, which you use
> to set idle speed.
>
> KB
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed" <bicyclop@pacbell.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 3:32 AM
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Need some reference material help
>
>
>>
>> I believe that the idle screw only controls the mixture at idle. As
>> soon as you give it any throttle, the main jet kicks in and the idle
>> circuit is no longer working. It doesn't matter much in practice if
>> you have the right mixture at idle because you should be taxiing
>> around with the mixture so lean that it won't take much throttle
>> without puking so that you don't foul plugs. The so lean it pukes
>> setting will keep you from mistakenly taking off with a partially
>> lean setting. It reminds you to go full rich.
>>
>> Pax,
>>
>> Ed Holyoke
>>
>> Kyle Boatright wrote:
>>
>>> <kboatright1@comcast.net>
>>>
>>> Just to clarify things...
>>>
>>> With a carb, you should see a 25-50 rpm increase in rpm before the
>>> engine dies as you lean it from idle.
>>>
>>> To enrich the idle setting, turn the screw out (counterclockwise).
>>> To lean the setting, turn it in (clockwise).
>>>
>>> KB
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Walter" <dale1rv6@comcast.net>
>>> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 8:56 PM
>>> Subject: RE: RV-List: Need some reference material help
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Randy,
>>>> Legend says rise, not drop. More than one veteran IA told me not to
>>>> worry if
>>>> I did not see that. Some sources stress testing at 650 rpm idle.
>>>> Dale
>>>>
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You can buy a splitter that allows 1 antenna to split to 2 radios. Aircraft Spruce
sells them.
-----Original Message-----
From: "Bert Murillo" <bertrv6@gmail.com>
Sent: 01/01/08 1:20 PM
Subject: RV-List: Radio antenas?
Hello:
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL....'''''
MY first posting in 08.....
I am planning to buy a second radio for my rv6a..., question now is
do I have to have another antena? I hope I do not have to do that..
What is the next way to do this, so I can use both radios with one antena..??
Thanks
Bert rv6a
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Radio antenas? |
That will work for reception, but the minute you key one of the
transmitters you will destroy the other receiver. You have to have a
means to physically disconnect the unused receiver from the antenna the
transmitter is using. Audio panels are the most common way to do it, but
not the only answer.
Michael Kraus wrote:
>
> You can buy a splitter that allows 1 antenna to split to 2 radios. Aircraft
Spruce sells them.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Bert Murillo" <bertrv6@gmail.com>
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Sent: 01/01/08 1:20 PM
> Subject: RV-List: Radio antenas?
>
>
> Hello:
>
>
> HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL....'''''
>
> MY first posting in 08.....
>
>
> I am planning to buy a second radio for my rv6a..., question now is
> do I have to have another antena? I hope I do not have to do that..
>
> What is the next way to do this, so I can use both radios with one antena..??
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Bert rv6a
>
> do not archive
>
>
>
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For communications you either have separate antennas for each transmitter or
you have a switch to select the antenna to the radio in use. If you are
going to the trouble of having a second radio then have a dedicated antenna
for it.
Assuming you have a standard belly bent whip antenna now, you may want to
try a wingtip antenna or some copper tape in the cowl for the second radio.
I have a homemade wing tip communication antenna that, while not as good as
my belly bent whip, works fine.
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (375 hrs)
RV-10 (wings)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bert Murillo
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 1:20 PM
Subject: RV-List: Radio antenas?
Hello:
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL....'''''
MY first posting in 08.....
I am planning to buy a second radio for my rv6a..., question now is
do I have to have another antena? I hope I do not have to do that..
What is the next way to do this, so I can use both radios with one
antena..??
Thanks
Bert rv6a
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Radio antenas? |
Aircraft Spruce does sell splitters that allow two Nav receivers to be
connected to one antenna. But I don't think they sell a similar
solution for Com radios. The two radios with one antenna problem is a
lot more complex with transmitters, as you need a solution that
decouples the two radios when one of them transmits. Otherwise the
power transmitted by one radio would follow the coax into the receiver
of the other radio - the power level at the receiver would be much,
much greater than it was designed for, and it would likely be destroyed.
The simplest, cheapest solution will be to have two antennae. If you
are worried about drag, consider a foil antenna on the inside of the
canopy for Com 2. That is a very light, cheap, zero drag and
supposedly effective solution.
Kevin Horton
On 1-Jan-08, at 13:59 , Michael Kraus wrote:
> >
>
> You can buy a splitter that allows 1 antenna to split to 2 radios.
> Aircraft Spruce sells them.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Bert Murillo" <bertrv6@gmail.com>
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Sent: 01/01/08 1:20 PM
> Subject: RV-List: Radio antenas?
>
>
> Hello:
>
>
> HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL....'''''
>
> MY first posting in 08.....
>
>
> I am planning to buy a second radio for my rv6a..., question now is
> do I have to have another antena? I hope I do not have to do
> that..
>
> What is the next way to do this, so I can use both radios with one
> antena..??
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Bert rv6a
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| Subject: | Synthetic brake fluid and Viton O-rings |
Hi Ron,
You only need to replace the O-Rings in the calipers as that is
where the heat is generated. The rings on the inside of the aircraft are
fine as they stand.
Jim Nelson
Changing fluid and O-Rings
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| Subject: | Re: Radio antenas? |
Bert Murillo wrote:
>
> Hello:
>
>
> HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL....'''''
>
> MY first posting in 08.....
>
>
> I am planning to buy a second radio for my rv6a..., question now is
> do I have to have another antena? I hope I do not have to do that..
>
> What is the next way to do this, so I can use both radios with one antena..??
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Bert rv6a
>
> do not archive
Hi Bert,
You can do it with what amounts to a 'smart' antenna relay, but it's
cheaper & more reliable to just add a 2nd antenna.
Sorry...
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| Subject: | Re: Synthetic brake fluid and Viton O-rings |
Thanks Jim, I was thinking that was the case. I have one set of O-rings
for the Cleveland master cylinders so I need to get another set for the
passenger brakes. That and the Viton O-rings plus some Mobil 1
synthetic ATF fluid and I can redo my brake system later this month.
Ron Lee
> Hi Ron,
> You only need to replace the O-Rings in the calipers as that is
> where the heat is generated. The rings on the inside of the aircraft are
> fine as they stand.
>
> Jim Nelson
> Changing fluid and O-Rings
>
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| Subject: | New wing jack for RVs |
Whoopie New Year, y'all!
A member of our EAA Chapter, Bob Herklotz, has been building jacks for the
Grumman folks for a few years now (Bob flies a Cheetah, but I'm working on him!)
and has developed a wing jack using a 12V scissor lift. He's tested it on
Mojo so much she thinks I'm trying to teach her to fly by flapping her wings!
Bobby Hester took a video at a recent breakfast at SYI and posted a nice
presentation on YouTube:
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuUOTk_PeXs_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuUOTk_PeXs)
Here's Bob's website for more info: _http://www.steelebrook.com/rvel.htm_
(http://www.steelebrook.com/rvel.htm)
Apologies for the shameless plug, but this thing is pretty dang neat!
>From The PossumWorks in TN,
Mark Phillips, RV-6A "Mojo" (She's a good girl!)
_http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/_
(http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/)
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(http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)
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Download Via FTP
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ftp://ftp.matronics.com/pub/Archives
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and will contain archive received up to the last minute. They make
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Dear Listers,
Please read over the RV-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
RV-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/RV-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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RV-List Usage Guidelines
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The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the RV-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the RV-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
RV-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the RV-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occassional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularyly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
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